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CITY COUNCIL MINUTES ORANGE, CALIFORNIA
OF AN ADJOURNED REGULAR MEETING FEBRUARY 19,2002
The City Council of the City of Orange, California convened on February 19, 2002 in an
Adjourned Regular Meeting, at 5:30 p.m. in the Council Chambers, 300 E. Chapman
Avenue, Orange, California.
5:30 P.M. SESSION
1. OPENING
1.2 PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG
Led by Mayor Murphy
1.3 ROLL CALL
PRESENT - Slater, Mayor Murphy, Coontz, Cavecche ABSENT -
Alvarez (arrived at 5:35 p.m.)1.4
PRESENTATIONS/ ANNOUNCEMENTS/ INTRODUCTIONS - None 2. PUBLIC COMMENTS
Mel Vernon, 363
N. Lincoln, provided copies of a letter he sent to the Fire Chief,addressing concerns about
fire hydrant requirements on his property in East Orange; and asked the Council
to review his letter and contact him if they had any questions.3. CONSENT CALENDAR
All items on
the Consent Calendar are considered routine and are enacted by one motion approving the recommended
action listed on the Agenda. Any member of the City Council, staff or
the public may request an item be removed from the Consent Calendar for discussion or
separate action. Unless otherwise specified in the request to remove an item from the
Consent Calendar, all items removed shall be considered immediately following action on
the remaining items on the Consent Calendar.3.1 Declaration
of City Clerk, Cassandra J. Cathcart, declaring posting of City Council agenda of an
adjourned regular meeting of February 19, 2002 at Orange Civic Center, Main Library
at 101 N. Center Street, Police facility at 11 07 North Batavia,the Eisenhower Park
Bulletin Board, and summarized on Time-Warner Communications, all
of said locations being in the City of Orange and freely accessible to
members of the public at least 72 hours before commencement of said adjourned regular
meeting.ACTION: Accepted
Declaration of Agenda Posting and authorized its retention as a public record
in the Office of the City Clerk.PAGE 1
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3. CONSENT CALENDAR (Continued)
3.2 Consideration to waive reading in full of all ordinances on the Agenda.
ACTION: Approved.
MOTION - Slater SECOND -
Cavecche AYES - Slater,
Alvarez, Mayor Murphy, Coontz, Cavecche All items on
the Consent Calendar were approved as recommended.END OF CONSENT
CALENDAR 4. REPORTS FROM
MAYOR MURPHY - None.5. REPORTS FROM COUNCILMEMBERS -
None.6. REPORTS FROM BOARDS, COMMITTEES,
AND COMMISSIONS - None.7. ADMINISTRATIVE REPORTS 7.1 Presentation
by Dr. Robert
Ghirelli, Orange County Sanitation District, regarding the 301(h) Waiver. Dr. Ghirelli'
s presentation is intended to inform the Council of the waiver process and what it means
to the County and City. There will be au opportunity for the Council to ask questions and
seek additional information.Mayor Murphy explained that representatives from
the Orange County Sanitation District and the Ocean Outfall Group would each
give 20 minute presentations on the Sanitation District's 301(h) Waiver, to be followed
by Council questions. He asked the audience to write down questions for the presenters, which they
would take after the Council questions. Each presenter provided copies of their presentation to
the Council.Presentation bv Dr. Robert Ghirelli. Orange
Countv Sanitation District Dr. Ghirelli, Director of Technical Services,
Orange County Sanitation District, introduced Sonya Wassgren, Public Information Officer. He
explained that the charge of the Sanitation District is to collect and treat
sewage, stating it is a challenge to achieve the right balance among various environmental concerns, such as air,
water, land and energy in doing so, noting the present level of treatment achieves an
appropriate balance among these environmental concerns.He reviewed the issues regarding the
ocean discharge permit, explaining this is a decision making process to determine the proper
level of treatment for sewage before it is discharged into the ocean. He also reviewed the
wastewater treatment process, including source control,treatment and outfall.PAGE 2 r-
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In order to be able to discharge waste water to the ocean, the Sanitation District has a NPDES
National Pollutant Discharge Elimination System) permit issued by the Environmental
Protection Agency and the State of California through the Regional Water Quality Control
Board. This is a five year permit. The current permit expires in 2003 and the Sanitation District
will have to submit a new application in December of 2002 for the next permit.
In 1972 the Clean Water Act was adopted to establish a national standard of secondary treatment.
In 1977, this Act was amended, adding Section 301(h), which allows some ocean dischargers to
apply for a modified permit. This only applies to ocean dischargers who discharge long
distances off shore, in deep water and have the benefit oflarge dilution factors.
He explained the key components of the Sanitation District's ocean permit - that they must meet state
and federal water quality standards, provide for a balanced population of native fish and wildlife
and include an industrial waste control program and required monitoring.The
Sanitation District does not want adverse impacts, and their environmental concerns include determining
ifit is safe to swim and safe to eat the fish from the ocean; as well as determining if the
fish are healthy and if the ecosystem is being protected.The
Sanitation District is weighing the options of how they balance the impacts to air, land,water
and energy, if customers will accept a rate increase to pay for full secondary treatment, and if
the money would be better spent on urban runoff and infrastructure improvements, as these are contributors
to sewage problems.He
reviewed the 18 month permit process, noting that a report will be coming out around March-April-
May and the permit application submitted to the regulatory agencies at the end of the year.
There have been public workshops held and there is ample opportunity for the public to
participate in this decision making process.
The Sanitation District has developed a Study Team, comprised of members of the U. S.
Geological Survey, U. S. Naval Postgraduate School, Scripps Institute of Oceanography,
University of Southern California, University of California Irvine and consultants. They have a
Technical Advisory Committee comprised of representatives from federal and state agencies,
city and county government, community and environmental groups and industry consultants.
They also have an independent third party review panel looking at information to report to their
Board of Directors.
He stated the Sanitation District is asking the community to remain engaged in this dialogue,
review and comment on the science, treatment technology and financial reports as they are
completed, ask for updates as the work is completed in the coming months and hold the
Sanitation District accountable when the data is in.
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Presentation bv Dr. Jan Vandersloot. Ocean Outfall Group
Dr. Jan Vandersloot, Founder and Director of Ocean Outfall Group, spoke in favor of
eliminating the 301(h) waiver. He explained the 1972 Federal Clean Water Act requires
treatment of all sewage to full secondary standards before being discharged in a water body. The
301(h) waiver allows less than full secondary standards, and the Orange County Sanitation
District is one of only 36, out of 16,000, sanitation districts in the United States to still have this
wavier. The Sanitation District is the largest waiver holder in the United States. He reviewed
the differences between primary and secondary treatment, noting that primary treatment takes
about 2 hours while secondary treatment takes 6 to 8 hours.
They are opposed to the waiver because of the persistent exceeding of bacteria level on the
beach, ongoing beach po stings and closures, fish health issues and the occurrence of the sewage
plume getting closer to shore, especially during the winter months.
He reviewed maps and diagrams of the ocean, noting that the Sanitation District discharges 243
million gallons of partially treated sewage, half primary and half secondary, through a 10 foot
pipe ending 4-1/2 miles off shore, 200 feet
deep.He reviewed significant health concerns as a result of this sewage discharge, including reports
of swimming related illnesses, human bacteria and viruses found in California costal waters
and even reports of a
death.The goals of the Ocean Outfall Group are to end the waiver, require full secondary
treatment,and maintain a safe ocean environment and a healthy
citizenry.In order to provide full secondary treatment, it would require approximately $200 to $
400 million in capital costs with $10 to $15 million per year in operating costs. This would
require an approximate $50 per year increase in residential rates. However, Orange County
residential rates are half of the average in California. He also noted the Orange County Sanitation
District has approximately $500 million in
reserves.He noted the cities of Seal Beach, Newport Beach, Huntington Beach, Costa Mesa and
Fullerton have either passed or proposed resolutions opposing the extension of the waiver and support
full secondary treatment of all waste water discharged into the
ocean.The Ocean Outfall Group is asking for the minimum level of sewage treatment before
being dumped into the ocean, and that minimum level is to treat the sewage so the waiver is
not required. He also spoke on the benefits of reclaiming water and not discharging it into the
ocean.Council Ouestions for Dr. Vandersloot TAPE
1330 Councilmember Coontz asked what system is best for treating sewage given the
technology today, and if ultraviolet and chlorine systems are being
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7. ADMINISTRATIVE REPORTS (Continued)
Dr. Vandersloot stated in Orange County, the secondary treatment systems used are the trickling
filter, the waste activated sludge and oxygen activated sludge which are tried and true biological
systems. Some communities are doing tertiary treatment, which is the best type of treatruent.
Also, ultraviolet and ozone treatments have been used, but he was not sure where. These are
acceptable ways and a way in which the ground water replenishment system is treating water
before being injected into the ground water basin in Orange County.
Mayor pro tern Alvarez asked for a clarification on a statement that the Sanitation District does
not measure viruses.
Dr. Vandersloot stated it is his understanding the Sanitation District is not measuring viruses at
the present time.
Mayor Murphy commented on the Huntington Beach closures and asked Dr. Vandersloot his
opinion on what is causing the problems at Huntington ifit is not the outfall.
Dr. Vandersloot stated it is caused by urban runoff and breaking sewer pipes. He also spoke on
the sewage plume moving closer to the shore.
Council Ouestions for Mr. Ghirelli TAPE 1500
Councilmember Coontz asked about a comment made during the presentation - would money be better
spent on urban runoff and infrastructure. These are different issues and asked which agency
would be most involved with urban runoff and infrastructure. She also asked about bio-solids,
as it was her understanding some communities have turned down the use of bio-solids on
farm lands because of viruses.
Mr. Ghirelli stated the main agency involved with urban runoff and infrastructure would be the
Orange County Flood Control District. In looking at problems at the beach, in terms of
investment, they need to look at the best investment for residents to make, looking at these other
issues such as runoff and aging sewer lines and the District's outfall. Going to full secondary
treatment will not solve all the problems at the beach. He also concurred that some communities
have turned down bio-solids for use on farm lands, but for a variety of
reasons.Councilmember Cavecche asked for more information on the Strategic Plan
Update.Mr. Ghirelli reviewed the Plan Update. The Sanitation District is doing continuous
planning,looking at a variety of treatment options and scenarios, updating rate projections and
utilizing public input. They are also looking at full secondary treatment and what it would take to build
a
facility.Mayor Murphy asked about the membership of the Public Advisory
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7. ADMINISTRATIVE REPORTS (Continued)
Mr. Ghirelli stated it is comprised of a broad spectrum of rate payers in the Sanitation District's
jurisdiction, including members of environmental organizations, the Ocean Outfall Group,
industry and homeowner associations.
Councilmember Cavecche asked about testing after both primary and secondary treatments, and
if the Sanitation District is treating just for the indicator coliform levels or is there more specific
testing done if a problem is indicated. After primary treatment, when the sewage is ready to be
pumped out, is the Sanitation District basically testing then for those indicators and is there a
specific level when they check for coli before pumping out.
Mr. Ghirelli stated the Sanitation District tests for three indicator bacteria - total coliform, fecal coliform,
and inert caucus bacteria, which are required under their permit and based on State health
standards. There is no virus testing because there are no standards at this point for sewage discharge
into the ocean. The testing they do for bacteria is done out in the ocean periodically and
they test at 17 monitoring stations along the coastline up to five days per week.Councilmember
Cavecche asked for clarification on the testing of the sewage after it gets into the
ocean instead of before it gets into the ocean, which seemed backwards.Mr.
Ghirelli reiterated the sewage is discharged at a depth of 200 feet and four miles off shore and
a dilution factor of 180 to 1. This testing is done to make sure there is not an adverse impact and
it is not coming back to shore.Councilmember
Cavecche asked about the die off of the T -90 number and if dye indicators are used
in testing.Mr.
Ghirelli stated they are finding that they see bacteria and viruses living longer in the ocean than
previously thought. With regard to dye indicators, they did not use them. Dye testing will tell
them certain things, but bacteria are particles and dye does not pick up particles. It is not a true
indicator of what is happening. They are looking into doing tests using particles.TAPE
1900 Councilmember
Slater asked for clarification on the dilution factor that when the sewage hits the ocean,
it is 180 parts per 1; and if Mr. Ghirelli agrees with the infrastructure costs cited of $50 per
ratepayer.Mr.
Ghirelli confirmed that it is diluted 180 parts per I instantaneously when it hits the ocean;and
he does agree with the figures as cited.Councilmember
Slater stated it seems like the waiver needs to be opposed, but asked about the timeline.
Mr.
Ghirelli stated they are evaluating information, doing strategic planning and developing cost projections.
All this information will come together in the March-April-May timeframe.
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June they will be making recommendations to the Board of Directors because they have to adopt
a budget which has to reflect the level of treatment that will form the basis for the permit
application. The permit application will then be prepared in August.
Councilmember Slater pointed out they will have to provide input to the Sanitation District
Board by May.
Mr. Ghirelli asked the Council to hold off on making any decision until all information is
available and invited the Council to tour their facilities. He noted the June Board meeting is the
fourth Wednesday of the month.
Mayor Murphy pointed out the purpose of this meeting was to gather basic information and
expose the entire Council to these issues. He agreed that they need to wait until all information
is available before making a final decision. He also asked Mr. Ghirelli to clarify the comment
made on the Sanitation District reserves.
Mr. Ghirelli stated the Sanitation District does have approximately $500 million in reserves.
However, their 20 year plan includes $1.4 billion in new and upgraded facilities, so this money
is already allocated. If they were to decide to go to full secondary treatment, they would have to
raise another $400 million.
Councilmember Slater concurred they need to obtain all information before making a decision
and asked Mayor pro tern Alvarez, the Council's representative on the Sanitation District Board,
to keep the Council informed on the status of this.
TAPE 2150
Mayor pro tern Alvarez asked if another study session is planned once all the information is
available.
Mayor Murphy suggested that be left open - whether it's a study session or a presentation at a Council
meeting.Councilmember
Coontz suggested that since the Orange County Flood Control District is involved
in the urban runoff and infrastructure issues, the Council needs to look at all issues and possibly
hear from the Flood Control District. She asked if there is a way to determine the cost of
infrastructure improvements and which agency would initially bare this cost.Mr.
Ghirelli agreed that before the Sanitation District embarks on any decision, everyone needs to
understand all the issues and causes and where they can most effectively put their financial and
environmental resources. The costs of any infrastructure improvements may run from hundreds
of thousands and upward to a million dollars for each project and it would be the Flood Control
District who would bare the initial cost.PAGE
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7. ADMINISTRATIVE REPORTS (Continued)
Mayor pro tern Alvarez asked if the report coming out in May will include how the Sanitation
District would balance the use of more chemicals for other treatments; how often testing is done;
do tests vary due to seasonal changes and what participation does the Sanitation District get from
the beach cities for testing.
Mr. Ghirelli stated the report due in May will include an evaluation of all options for treatment
and the chemicals that are included; their tests vary in schedule depending on the specific test,
but their lab runs approximately 100,000 tests each year and a schedule is outlined in their
monitoring program. The results can also vary due to seasonal changes. With regard to testing
and participation from beach cities, for the most part, testing is done by the Sanitation District or
the County Heath Agency, with a little done by the Flood Control District.
Mayor Murphy introduced Villa Park Councilman Bob McGowan in the audience. Mr.
McGowan had no questions, but did ask for a similar presentation for his city.
TAPE 2500
Councilmember Slater asked for a status report on a matter brought to his attention, that near
Grijalva Park, trash which had accumulated had been shoved into the Creek.
The Assistant City Manager stated that over the previous weekend, on property along Santiago
Creek, adjacent to Yorba, the property owner was cleaning up the property pursuant to a Code
Enforcement action. A skip load driver pushed about five loads of trash over the bank of the
creek. A Police Report was filed and the owner was told to clean up the problem. The Fish and
Wildlife Agency was also notified and the situation is being taken care of.
TAPE 2580
General Ouestions
Mayor Murphy read the questions which had been submitted from the audience.
1. Asked for a show of hands on how many want the waiver to be opposed.
2. How could the Orange County Sanitation District confirm the Stanley Grout hypothesis
last summer when the AES power plant was only on for 2 days?
Mr. Ghirelli stated the hypothesis put forth by Professor Grant has several parts. The first part is
that there is a phenomenon known as internal waves. These are subsurface waves set up in the
ocean that can move material such as the plume to shore. Grant's hypothesis says that these
waves, plus the AES power plant, could result in contamination at the beach. The Sanitation
District tested this hypothesis last summer. There was an issue brought up that the power plant
was not operating at true capacity, and, therefore, there was not a true study. In fact, the
hypothesis says you need to have the internal waves move the plume 3 miles to shore. If the
plume got within 1500 feet of the shore, where the AES power plant sucks in water and
discharges the cooling water, and the plume were to get within range of the outfall pipes from the
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power plant, the turbulence created by the cooling water could suck in the plume, possibly move
it to the surface and then move it onto shore by tides and currents. The criticism should not take
away the results of the study because if the plume is shown 1500 feet off shore, that is too close
for anyone to want to have evidence of a sewage plume. They have to show they are getting that
close before the AES power plant comes into affect.
Dr. Vandersloot did not think Mr. Ghirelli's statement is what Stanley Grant would say. In fact,
Professor Grant was not part of this study, which was a sore point with the Ocean Outfall group,
as Stanley Grant should be the one to help test the hypothesis. In fact, the Sanitation District did
show a finger of the plume pointing right at the power plant; and even though the plume was not
within 1500 feet, it was still off shore and the problem posed by the AES plant would be the hot
water coming out of the plant and disrupting the temperature barrier which is supposed to keep
the plume at depth. If that barrier is disrupted, then the bacteria from the sewage could be taken
to shore with the current. It is not correct to say this study was testing the Stanley Grant
Hypothesis.
TAPE 2740
3. Are you familiar with the water treatment methods used in Arcata, California - if so, are these
techniques applicable to Orange County?Mr.
Ghirelli stated there are wetlands being used in Arcata, but did not know if that was an option
for the Sanitation District.4.
According to the District, what is the perception of the public as to the quality of the ocean
off our shores?Sonya
Wassgren stated that according to the survey about Orange County beaches, please tell me how
you would rate them overall - 59.3% excellentto good, 8.9% poor, and 6.3% unsure.When the
survey asked - in general, do you feel that it is safe to go in the ocean - 68.1 % yes,23.9% no, and
7.9% unsure.In response to a
question by Councilmember Coontz, Ms. Wassgren further stated that the survey did include the question
of whether people actually went into the ocean.5. Orange County Sanitation
District outfall goes out 4 miles and it implies that no one uses the ocean water.
However, as an ocean kayaker and outrigger canoer, we are constantly sing the water
4 miles out. How can we protect ourselves from entering the plume? We do swim
out that far and so do dolphins and whales?Mr. Ghirelli referred to
the comment made earlier on the barrier which keeps the plume submerged, and the fact
that their permit requires they do not intrude in the top ten meters of the ocean. Their testing is
done to make sure they don't violate that water quality standard.PAGE 9
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6. What other harmful stuff is in the discharge other than bacteria that could harm people
and or marine life?
Mr. Ghirelli stated there is organic matter, bacteria, viruses, metals, chemicals - allat levels below
what are necessary to protect the environment.7.
Would you comment briefly on the fact that the waiver issue has become a crisis of confidence
rather than a question of science; what would you do if you were a politician?Mr.
Ghirelli stated decisions are made for a variety of reasons, and his job as a member of staff is to
provide the best scientific and technical information to the policy makers; and each member of the
Board will make a decision based on what is most important to them.Dr.
Vandersloot stated politicians need to be leaders and show the way to the citizens, and not be satisfied
with minimum standards. Politicians should do the best they can and the best that is technically
feasible.8.
What guarantee is there that Orange County Sanitation District's study results (due in April)
will definitively answer the citizens outfall treatment question, and not just raise more
issues for the District to use to hold off the ultimate future secondary treatment decision?
Mr.
Ghirelli stated there is no guarantee it will be definitive, but it will be able to provide information
that will allow for better decision making. It will provide a better understanding on how
the plume moves in the ocean, how close to shore it comes, and will show whether there are mechanisms
for moving material from off shore to on shore.Mayor
Murphy noted there is no way to extend this permit. A decision has to be made to either apply
for the waiver in December or not.9.
When Orange County Sanitation District curbed urban runoff this past summer,bacterial
monitoring showed that only 50% of shoreline were affected. What was responsible
for the rest of the excessively high counts?Mr.
Ghirelli stated there are a number of sources but did not have a definitive answer.10.
Does Orange County Sanitation District have funds to pay for treatment that fully conforms
with Clean Water Act requirements? Could you explain what sanitation engineers
refer to when they use the term champs?Mr.
Ghirelli stated if the decision is made to do full secondary treatment, the Sanitation District will
have to raise rates, or do whatever is necessary, to pay for it. He was not sure what the term champs
referred to.PAGE
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TAPE 3100
11. Is there some way to treat bio-solids and turn it into an
asset?Mr. Ghirelli stated the Orange County Sanitation District policy is to beneficially reuse all
bio-solids and have been able to do that. However, some counties have all but banned the use of
this material, but there are farmers who benefit from bio-solids, and if a ban were to go
into effect,the farmers would have to convert from natural fertilizers to
chemical fertilizers.12. What are the costs involved in going to full secondary process? What happens
if the waiver is granted and what happens if it's
not granted?Mr. Ghirelli explained the application is submitted in December and then
the Federal Environmental Protection Agency would either approve or deny it. If they approve it,
the State can review and veto it. Ifthe EPA denies it, then the process
is over.13. What would it cost to eliminate all damage from sewage flow into
the ocean?Mr. Ghirelli stated in order to get to zero discharge, they would have to find a place to
put it other than the ocean. The Sanitation District is currently involved in a program
called the Ground Water Replenishment System which will take secondary affluent from
the treatment plants, deliver the water to the Orange County Water District, who will then use that
water to recharge the underground water table. The plan right now is to take about 70 million
gallons out of the 240 million gallons a day and then down the road take as much as 150
million gallons.Beyond that, they would have to develop a market to take the water and
develop financial incentives
for it.Mayor Murphy thanked the presenters and the audience for
their questions.Council comments
TAPE 3320 Councilmember Coontz stated she would be interested in hearing from the Orange
County Flood Control District on what they are doing and also about the Ground Water
Replenishment System.She suggested leaving it up to the Public Works Director for a
future presentation.Councilmember Cavecche stated water quality is becoming one of the biggest issues the
City has to deal with. The Sanitation District is pumping primarily treated sewage into the
ocean, without testing it first. We know it is contaminated with fecal coli forms, and more than
likely is contaminated with viruses. Pharmaceuticals is a big problem and is going to be a big issue
in the ground water replenishment as well. Whether the plume is washing up to the shore
or staying out in the ocean, there has to be a better way to take care of this. We need to figure out a
way to take care of what we are producing and not pump it out into the ocean and
environment. She stated she has toured the Sanitation District facility and was impressed with the
facility. It appears as if the Sanitation District is going to be applying for the waiver as it is
on their schedule; and she realizes the Council wants to wait for additional information, but this
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not the way to take care of the problem; and whether the plume is washing up or not, she has
pretty much made up her mind.
Mayor Murphy noted the Sanitation District schedule was put together in terms of the
preparation required in order to put an application together, if they were to get the policy
direction to move forward. He stated he could sense which way each of the Councilmembers
was leaning on this issue, but still wanted to wait until all additional information is received. He
suggested agendizing this for the first meeting in May for final discussion.
Councilmember Coontz stated she has already made up her mind as she is very concerned and
asked about the feasibility of a presentation from the Orange County Flood Control District and
about the Ground Water Replenishment System, as these all have to do with water quality.
The Assistant City Manager stated he is relatively certain the Orange County Flood Control
District would be interested in coming in and answering questions, but they may not be prepared
for a formal presentation on what their plans are to capture all the urban runoff, as it is a very big
issue for all the cities. The Orange County Water District would probably also be available for a
presentation.
Mayor pro tern Alvarez agreed the Council needs to look at a lot of information as there are
many links between the different districts. Storm runoff and how it is dealt with is an important
issue and the Council needs to fully understand what will trigger the City's participation in that,
given what direction the Council takes on the waiver. There will definitely be a domino effect,
and this will become even more clear as the different alternatives are presented.
Councilmember Slater agreed the County needs to be environmentally responsible. He is
looking forward to voting against the waiver, but is willing to wait a few months. He wanted to
ensure that the Council's input is provided in a timely manner before the Sanitation District
Board takes any further action.
Councilmember Coontz asked about the membership of the Sanitation District Board.
Mayor Murphy stated a list will be provided on the membership of the Sanitation District Board.
8. REPORTS FROM CITY MANAGER - None.9.
LEGAL AFFAIRS - None.10. RECESS
TO CLOSED SESSION - The Council did not recess.PAGE 12
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11. ADJOURNMENT
MOTION - Cavecche SECOND -
Alvarez AYES - Slater,
Alvarez, Mayor Murphy, Coontz, Cavecche The City Council
adjourned at 7:25 p.m.7 ~?A4..1./~~ . (.
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