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Home My WebLink About12_9_2003 - Council Minutes - Adjourned Regular MeetingADOPTED BY THE CITY COUNCIL ON JANUARY 13,2004 CITY COUNCIL MINUTES ORANGE, CALIFORNIA OF AN ADJOURNED REGULAR METING December 9,2003 3:00 P.M. STUDY SESSION 1. OPENING 1.2 PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG 1.3 ROLL CALL PRESENT - Ambriz, Mayor Murphy, Coontz, Cavecche ABSENT - Alvarez (Councilmember Alvarez arrived at 3:10 p.m.)1.4 PRESENTA TIONS/ ANNOUNCEMENTS/ INTRODUCTIONS Leslie Roseberry, Planning Manager, was introduced.2. PUBLIC COMMENTS - None.3. CONSENT CALENDAR All items on the Consent Calendar are considered routine and are enacted by one motion approving the recommended action listed on the Agenda. Any member of the City Council, staff or the public may request an item be removed from the Consent Calendar for discussion or separate action. Unless otherwise specified in the request to remove an item from the Consent Calendar, all items removed shall be considered immediately following action on the remaining items on the Consent Calendar.3.1 Declaration of City Clerk, Mary E. Murphy, declaring posting of the City Council Agenda of an Adjourned Regular Meeting of December 9, 2003 at Orange Civic Center City Clerk' s Office, north facing kiosk, Main Library at 101 N. Center Street, Police Facility at 11 07 North Batavia, and Shaffer Park; all of said locations being in the City of Orange and freely accessible to members of the public at least 72 hours before commencement of said Adjourned Regular Meeting.ACTION: Accepted Declaration of Agenda Posting and authorized its retention as a public record in the Office of the City Clerk.MOTION - Cavecche SECOND - Coontz AYES - Ambriz, Mayor Murphy, Coontz, Cavecche ABSENT - Alvarez All items on the Consent Calendarwere approved as recommended.END OF CONSENT CALENDAR PAGE 1 CITY COUNCIL MINUTES December 9, 2003 4. REPORTS FROM MAYOR MURPHY - None.5. REPORTS FROM COUNCILMEMBERS - None.6. REPORTS FROM BOARDS, COMMITTEES, AND COMMISSIONS - None.7. ADMINISTRATIVE REPORTS 7.1 Review of aspects of the East Orange Development Plan.Mayor Murphy reported the purpose of this Study Session was to discuss the environmental review process and traffic and circulation issues relating to the East Orange Development Plan;and to target additional meetings for next year on other specific issues.Stan SooHoo, Assistant Community Development Director, provided a brief overview of the project, outlining the two components - Santiago Hills 11 which is west of the toll road and the East Orange Planning area east of the toll road.Ed Knight, Consultant, reviewed an organizational chart outlining the vanous consultants involved in this project. Deanna Evans, Jones and Stokes, reviewed the CEQA process and how it relates to the East Orange Development; the scoping meetings that have been held for this project and some of the major issues that have arisen from those meetings.Councilmember Coontz thanked staff for the organizational chart, and suggested that it include names associated with each of the consulting firms so they can be more easily identified.Councilmember Alvarez asked how the locations of the scoping meetings were determined and who participated in the meetings.Mr. SooHoo indicated these meetings were held in the different geographical areas affected by the Plan and where there was some interest. Attendees at the meetings were asked to sign in to keep a record of those interested in the project.Councilmember Alvarez asked about notices to other agencies, particularly the City of Tustin;and wanted to ensure comments from the City of Tustin were relayed to the City Council.Ms. Evans indicated the City of Tustin Planning Department was notified and comments have been received from them. Councilmember Coontz wanted to ensure that representatives from TIOPAC (Tustin, Irvine,Orange) were included in this process, as they have a strong interest in this and she has been getting a lot of questions from them.PAGE 2 CITY COUNCIL MINUTES December 9, 2003 7. ADMINISTRATIVE REPORTS (Continued) Traffic and Circulation Issues Mr. SooHoo reported staff is in the middle of the traffic and circulation process and those studies will not be concluded until probably February 2004. Kendall Elmer, Austin Foust & Associates, reviewed the ongoing traffic study, outlining the two components - thetraditional CEQA required traffic impact assessment and the proposals to amend the Master Plan of Arterial Highways and responses to what is currently being proposed.The current Master Plan and City Circulation Plan has a significant number of roadways in this project area as part of the original 1989 plan; but the current project has been dramatically scaled down in terms of traffic. He reviewed some of the proposed amendments to the Master Plan,noting these amendments affect Orange, Anaheim, Tustin and Irvine as well as the County and OCTA. Councilmember Coontz noted some of the proposed amendments are related to the Irvine Company development and some are not. She asked when these will come before Council and if they will be separated out or will all the proposed changes be presented at the same time. She asked specifically about Culver.Mr. Elmer reported the Culver extension is not part of this proposal at this time; but it does stay on the Plan.Councilmember Coontz asked for clarification on the term buildable as that could mean both monetary and physically; and asked specifically about the Jamboree extension.Mr. Elmer clarified that with the Irvine Company land donation, there has been a virtual elimination of potential land use development in the Jamboree corridor.Councilmember Coontz noted it is a good idea in the future to show what is not developable versus what is always possible. She asked when Council will get this presentation and when the decision is supposed to be made to aCTA.Mr. Elmer stated OCT A is waiting for this EIR to run its course.Councilmember Alvarez asked about Jeffrey and Culver and when the Council will begin to look at those streets as necessary options to relieve traffic.Mr. Elmer reviewed the various phases at different years of build out.Councilmember Alvarez noted The Irvine Company is asking to show an interchange at Jeffrey and 241, and the cities of Tustin and Orange looked at that wondering if Jeffrey was the preferred road. He asked if given the development pressure surrounding this area, does all the surrounding development play into the formula.PAGE 3 CITY COUNCIL MINUTES December 9, 2003 7. ADMINISTRATIVE REPORTS (Continued) Mr. Elmer indicated their scenarios do take into account all development in the surrounding area. Mayor pro tern Cavecche, noting that OCT A has final approval, asked if the decision has been made that the Culver extension is not going to be needed; and noted certain areas are in the City ofIrvine's sphere of influence. Mr. Elmer stated OCTA likes to have a cooperative process to keep everyone informed, but it is all pending on the outcome of the environmental process. Mayor pro tern Cavecche noted there is already traffic concerns in Orange and would like every opportunity looked at before roads are removed. Councilmember Coontz agreed that everything should be looked at before roads are removed, and asked again when the Council will have an opportunity to review this. Mayor pro tern Cavecche stated it was great that everything was being looked at to the east because those roads are impacted with all the development in South County. Councilmember Ambriz asked about proposed deletions, noting the ElR will include the 2025 buildout. Councilmember Coontz noted a statement was made that these roadways are generated by The Irvine Company development, whereas the Corridor was on from the early 1970's; and although The Irvine Company development has generated discussion it has not generated these roadways. In response to questions by Councilmember Alvarez, Mr. Elmer indicated the traffic study will show traffic volumes - both current and projected.In response to questions by Mayor pro tern Cavecche, Mr. Elmer indicated the study encompasses area to the SR 91 on the northwest, the SR 55 on the west, the SR 5 on the south and to the Live Oak Canyon El Toro Road area east.Councilmember Coontz noted a discussion years ago on the necessity to encompass the area all the way to Tustin Street for a traffic study, not just to the 55 Freeway, in order to include impacts at the Tustin and Chapman intersection.Mayor Murphy noted the next Study Session for the East Orange Development will be on January 27'h at 3:00 p.m., with specific issues to be determined; and a subsequent Study Session will be held on February 24th at 3:00 p.m. to further discuss traffic issues.8. REPORTS FROM CITY MANAGER - None.PAGE 4 T-'--'-' CITY COUNCIL MINUTES December 9, 2003 9. LEGAL AFFAIRS - None.10. ADJOURNMENT MOTION - Cavecche SECOND - Coontz AYES - Ambriz, Alvarez, Mayor Murphy, Coontz, Cavecche The City Council adjourned at 4:05 p.m.tt"1. ","v/,{ 1. V-L'-~~'{~ L<--'--+MARy-E. HY - ~CITY CLERK'-)PAGE 5