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APPROVED BY THE COUNCIL ON SEPTEMBER 13,2005
CITY COUNCIL MINUTES ORANGE, CALIFORNIA
OF AN ADJOURNED REGULAR MEETING August 23, 2005
The City Council of the City of Orange, California convened an Adjourned Regular Meeting at
7:00 p.m. in the Council. Chambers, 300 E. Chapman Avenue, Orange, California.
7:00 P.M. JOINT STUDY SESSION
WITH PLANNING COMMISSION
I.OPENING
1.2 PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG
Led by Mayor Mark Murphy
1.3 ROLL CALL
Citv Council
PRESENT - Smith, Ambriz, Murphy, Cavecche, Dumitru ABSENT -
None Planning Commission
PRESENT - Imboden,
Pruett, Bonina, Bilodeau ABSENT - Enderby 1.
4 PRESENTATIONS/ ANNOUNCEMENTS/
INTRODUCTIONS2. PUBLIC COMMENTS - None
3. CONSENT CALENDAR - None 4.
REPORTS FROM MAYOR MURPHY - None
5.REPORTS FROM COUNCILMEMBERS - None 6.REPORTS
FROM BOARDS, COMMITTEES, AND COMMISSIONS - None
APPROVED BY THE COUNCIL ON SEPTEMBER 13, 2005
CITY COUNCIL MINUTES ORANGE CALIFORNIA
OF AN ADJOURNED REGULAR MEETING August 23,2005
7. ADMINISTRATIVE REPORTS
7.1 Report on the Comprehensive General Plan Update. (C2300.E)
Alice Angus, Community Development Director, introduced the item.
Anna Pehoushek, Principal Planner, reviewed the process to this date.
Mr. John Bridges, Cotton/Bridges/Associates, provided a power point presentation on the
proposed General Plan. He acknowledged the work of the General Plan Committee (GPAC)
members and reviewed the progress to date. He reviewed the Vision Statement, which is the
foundation for General Plan goals and policies.
Land Use Classification Svstem
Mr. Bridges reviewed recommended Land Use Classification System, which includes the
addition of new Mixed-Use categories, modifies the Industrial categories, and adds higher FAR'
s for several
categories.Mayor pro tem Cavecche clarified that there was no commercial/recreation designation without
a residential
mix.Councilmember Smith noted that the current four Industrial Areas have been reduced to
two.Councilmember Smith also inquired about the Urban Mixed Use and how the Traffic Element
is addressed as part of
that.Mr. Bridges indicated there will be a complete set of all Elements to the General Plan - that this
is just a review of the Land Use Element.
Mayor pro tem Cavecche clarified that the Traffic Element was not taken into consideration
when these Land Use designations were considered.
Mr. Bridges indicated that the first step is to look at Land Use designations, then the impacts of
those designations, and then modifications can be made after that.
In response to Chairman Bonina's question about an economic analysis, Mr. Bridges stated there
will be a fiscal analysis which looks at the final result as well as a proposed Economic
Development Element.
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Land Use Focus Areas
Mr. Bridges reviewed Land Use Focus Areas, which are areas of change, and general GPAC
recommendations for each one:
West Chapman / Uptown Orange - includinga recommendation for an Urban Mixed Use for the majority
of the area, but with a need for open space.Eckhoff
Street / Orangewood Avenue - recognizing thepotential to continue to provide options for lower
scale office uses and business park oriented light industrial uses.West Katella
Avenue Corridor - including a recommendationto expand the Commercial Recreation Mixed Use,
which is intended to be a regionally oriented destination.East Chapman / EI
Modena - including a recommendation fora Neighborhood Mixed Use designation for certain commercial
areas.Tustin Street - Mall Area -
including a recommendation for a Neighborhood Mixed Use designation for a large number of
properties.Councilmember Ambriz asked if a SR
55 off-ramp at Meats Avenue was considered.Mr. Bridges indicated that issue
was discussed but is not part of the recommendation.Tustin Street Palm to Ouincv -
including a recommendation for mixed useswith more walkable components.Main Street / West Chapman
Avenue - considered
a major medical hub with anumber of medical institutions; includes a recommendation for an
Urban Mixed Use and Urban Office Professional designations.Chapman Avenue / Tustin Street - focus
was on
Chapman Hospital designated as Neighborhood Mixed Use, Grijalva as Open Space, and that
Y orba Park remain a park.Commissioner Bilodeau noted the absence of a Hospital
zone.Mr. Bridges stated that the current designation for
the Chapman Hospital property is General Commercial.Councilmember Dumitru suggested more consistencies with the
designations
for hospitals.Councilmember Ambriz asked about the GP AC recommendations
for Y orba Park.Mr. Bridges indicated there was a great deal
of discussion on Y orba Park and the Committee members had strong feelings that it should remain
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Industrial Areas - includes a recommendation to maintain Cully Drive as residential.Lemon
Street Corridor - includes arecommendation for Light Industrial along the western side of Cypress
south of Collins and Medium Density Residential to the east of Cypress extending north of
Collins.Old Towne /
Santa Fe Depot - includes a recommendationto reduce residential densities to maintain the character
of the area; with a mixed use around the Plaza and spoke streets.In response to
Council questions, Mr. Bridges indicated there is no change for Chapman University from the
existing General Plan; that the proposed General Plan is consistent with the Chapman University Specific
Plan; that anything currently applied to the Historic District will still apply; that
the land use maps are intended to reflect use, not ownership; and that the map will be changed
to reflect the closure of Center Street at Chapman Avenue.Lincoln Avenue Corridor
Sullv Miller Issues -
this was not one of the original Focus Areas, but surfaced throughout the discussions. There are no
GP AC recommendations, but there are factors to be considered when contemplating land use options.
Speakers John Moore - suggested
that
the City needsto look more at what the population of Orange really wants.John Baker - stated
that the
proposed land usesare too developer friendly and will develop the City at a pace that
the majority ofresidents don't want.Anja Friday, Cully Drive - wants to
see Cully Drive remain as Residential.Vonda Barela, Cully Drive - wants to see
Cully Drive remain as LowDensity Residential.Lois Barke - spoke on the need to retain
existing residential neighborhoods; and that too much intense development and higher density is being proposed.
Jeff Frankel, OTPA - spoke in support of downzoning the
Old Towne Historic District; and requested that GPAC members receive current copies of maps, because
there seems to be inconsistencies.Augie Morales - spoke on the need to protect the
Cypress/
Lemon neighborhood James Obermayer, GPAC Committee member - noted that the Committee members were
given alternatives to work from andchose the least dense alternatives given
to them; the Committee members were concerned about open space and parks but made little
progress on that; and suggested the Council look closely at the comments from the
community.Marty Adair - spoke on the Cully Drive issue.Stephanie Holcomb - spoke on
the need to address traffic congestion and over development,
and to consider open space.Cesar Corvarrubias, submitted written comments on the need to
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Council/Commission Comments
Commissioner Bilodeau commented that some of the recommendations are overwhelming with
regard to densification; that infrastructure needs to be addressed, especially in major corridors;
and that the City does not have the resources to address all those issues. He agreed that Cully
Drive needs to remain residential.
Commissioner Imboden stated he would like to see the GP AC members continue through the
process and provide comments and feedback, as it would be beneficial to hear directly from the
committee members.
Councilmember Smith noted that a mixed use concept is very interesting but suggested more
education is needed on exactly what that means; she suggested that perhaps more parks and
open space can be utilized in those recommended mixed use areas; and suggested that an
economic study be done to determine if more parks and open space can be created in the City.
She agreed that infrastructure, such as underground utilities, needs to be addressed; and also
expressed concern about the traffic impacts and how that will be managed. She also suggested a
timeline for this process.
Councilmember Dumitru expressed concern on placing more residential uses along major
corridors where the density and traffic is already an issue. He asked for clarification on the
alternatives provided versus actual recommendations; and stated he was glad to see parks and
open space, as well as Santiago Creek, being addressed.
Councilmember Ambriz suggested the City explore partnerships with the School District for
parks and open space; and agreed the infrastructure needs to be addressed, especially on Tustin
Street.
Mayor pro tern Cavecche noted the Plan needs to be aligned with the community vislOn
statement; asked for a time line; asked that the GP AC members stay involved with the process;
and suggested she would like to meet with some of the members to get a more personal input on
the process. She expressed concern on traffic issues, especially if pedestrian traffic is increased
along major corridors, suggesting that mixed uses should not be intensified along major streets.
She commented that Orange could be a real center for the medical community and suggested
relooking at designations for West Orange. It is possible that medical offices could protect the
uses in West Orange, while still providing a complement to the medical community. She
agreed it is nice to see more parks and open space, but pointed out that the City receives
direction from the State to increase housing. There is a need for more housing, but that has to
be balanced with the needs of the current residents. She suggested that as businesses come into
the City, there could be a fee structure established to encourage businesses to create more open
space. She agreed that Cully Drive needs to stay residential. She noted to the Planning
Commissioners that she carefully reads their meeting minutes, and encouraged them to go on
record with comments on as many things as possible throughout this process.
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Commissioner Pruett commented that in the past, communities were developed which put people
in a position where they had to use their cars; and now the Planning community is trying to make
a transition where people can live close to where they shop and work. He also noted one of the
biggest factors of an increasing population is growing families who need housing to meet that
growth. He commented that as all the Elements of the General Plan are pulled together, it will
be easier to see how they impact each other and how they flow together; that this meeting was
just to look at one element. There is a long way to go in this process, and the issue is to stay
involved and be patient.
Mayor Murphy noted this meeting was just one step as part of a very long process with a great
deal of work ahead. There will always be change and evolution in the City, and there are many
variables in trying to manage that change. Input from the business community is extremely
important to this process, as it is the economic engine which drives the majority of this. It is
also very important to develop a model that the citizens and business community will embrace.
Alice Angus, Community Development Director, reviewed a tentative timeline, and will provide
a refined time line within the next few weeks. It is staffs intention to bring this to the Planning
Commission by late Winter 2006 and to the Council shortly thereafter. At least one additional
study session will be planned with a more refined document and more goals and policies.
The Council and Commissioners all thanked the staff and GP AC members for their hard work
and efforts; and also thanked the community for their involvement.
Mayor Murphy asked that when the final timeline is ready, it be published on the City's website.
8. REPORTS FROM CITY MANAGER - None 9.
LEGAL AFFAIRS - None 10. ADJOURNMENT
The meeting
was adjourned at 9:25 p.m.Declaration of
City Clerk, Mary E. Murphy, declaring posting of the City Council Agenda of an Adjourned Regular
Meeting of August 23, 2005 at Orange Civic Center kiosk, Poliee Facility at 1107 North Batavia,
and Shaffer Park; all of said locations being in the City of Orange and freely accessible to members of
the public at least 72 hours before commencement of said Adjourned Regular Meeting; and also available
at the City Clerk's Office.MA MURPHY
ITY CLERK
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