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HomeMy WebLinkAbout1/16/1989 - Minutes PCPLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES City of Orange Orange, C=~lifornia January 16, J.939 P4ond.ay - 7:00 p.m. PRESENT: Commissioners Bosch, Greek, Hart, r~iaster, Scott ABSENT: None STAFF PRESENT: John Godlewski, ter. Planner & Commission Secretary; Jack ~IcGe2, Administrator - Current Planning; Gene '~Iinshew, Assistant City Attorney; Gary Johnson, City Engineer; and Sue Devlin, Recording Secretary PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE IN F.E: MINUTES OF JANUARY 4, 19$9 Pfloved by Commissioner Scott, seconded by Commissioner Hart, that the Planning Commission approve the Minutes of January 4, 1989 .as recorded. AYES: Commissioners Bosch, Greek, Hart, Master, Scott NOES: None MOTIOr1 CARRIED IN RE: ITE"~S TO BE CONTINUED 1. CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 1733-88, PRE-ZONE CHANGE 1103-88, TENTATIVE TRACT MAP 13819 - B.E. DEVELOPMENT Final disposition of the map is not ready for the Commission's review and it is requested to continue this item to February 22, 1989. Thomas R. Flynn, 2811 East Villa Real Drive, Director of_ the Catholic Cemeteries, was not in opposition to the project, but wanted to go on record so that the developer will. know what is being planned for the property immediately adjacent to the property he is seeking to subdivide. It is his intention to build a mausoleum within 200 yards of that development. i-Ie wants to be cooperative with the neighbors. Commissioner Greek took issue with the water tank and lack of landscaping at the cemetery. Don Cray, 8001 Santiago Canyon Road, is a neighbor of the cemetery. He has concerns with the proposed mausoleum. Commissioner ,Scott would like the concerns of. P1r. Flynn to be brought to the attention of staff and the developer of the adjoining property. Planning Commission Minutes January 1G, 1989 - Page 2 Commissioner Greek was going to be out of town February 22, 1989 and requested another date. Commissioner Fiart was also going to be out of tocan. ?loved by Commissioner Master, seconded by Commissioner Bart, that the Planning Commission continue Conditional Use Permit 1733-88, Pre-Zone Change 1103-88 and Tentative Tract P3ap 13819 to March 6, 1.989; also, request staff to bring the proposals of the cemetery to the attention of the developer. AYES: Commissioners Bosch, Greek, Hart, Master, Scott NOES: None P~lOTION CARRIED 2. CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 1730-88 - EL POLLO LOCO, INC. There was some confusion as to the final submittal. from the applicant and staff suggests a continuance to the February 6, 1.989 meeting. Moved by Commissioner Master, seconded by Commissioner Hart, that the Planning Commission continue Conditional Use Permit .1730-38 to February 6, 1989. AYES: Commissioners Bosch, Greek, Hart, Master, Scott NOES: None MOTION CARRIED ItJ RE: CONTINUED HEARINGS CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 1724-88 - STEVEN GLASSEY: Request for a Conditional Use Permit to all..ow the development of a two story second unit in the R-2-6 (Residential Duplex) zone, pursuant to Section 17.26.110 of the Orange Municipal Code, located at 226 East LaVeta Avenue. NOTE: This project i.s exempt from environmental review. (Conditional Use Permit 1724-88 was continued from the December 19, 1988 Planning Commission Meeting.) The Commission recommended this item be continued in order for staff to determine whether or not the Old Towne Demolition Guidelines and Design Guidelines app]i.ed to this project. And, if so, what the process would be i.n order to review them through that process. It was staff's determination that the Ordinances do apply to the project. As written in the memo of December 27, 1988 to the Planning Commission, it is suggested that although the Ordinance does not specify the actual procedure as to whether or not the Planning Commission action needs to take place prior to Planning Commission Minutes January 16, 1989 - Page 3 D.R.B. action, staff is recommending that the Planning Commission take it's action on not only the use, but also to consider the proposal's relationship and effect on the neighborhood plan as required by Code, which would be the Design Guidelines. Chairman Bosch stated the public hearing was closed at the previous hearing. Commissioner Hart wanted it to be clear they were not approving the building elevation plans. The main issue was the mass of the structure as it appeared in relation to the existing structure. He wanted their concerns entered in a motion form regarding the mass of the building. Commissioner Greek feels it is too much mass for the lot in that particular neighborhood. A condition is needed stating the coverage, the square footage, or some kind of number that gives an indication of how much the mass should be reduced. The use is ok, but the particular p1.an is not acceptable. Commissioners discussed this project as it related to existing codes. Commissioner Scott wanted to know how previous approvals of similar projects in the area differed from this project? Chairman Bosch explained that staff determined this meets the development standards of the zone subject to the C.U.P. approval, but Commission needs to determine whether the specific relationship of this proposed structure to it's neighbors. His key concern is the massing of the project, causing a more significant impact on the neighborhood. Moved by Commissioner Greek, seconded by Commissioner Master, that the Pl.anni.ng Commission deny Conditional Use Permit 1?24-88 without prejudice. AYES: Commissioners Bosch, Greek, Hart, Master, Scott i~1OES: None MOTION CARRIED Commissioner Greek stated there was greater than a 1.1 ratio for the lot. Applicant, Steven Glassey, 226 East LaVeta, wanted to know what too massive is? His front unit is 1160 square feet. The Deck unit is 1180 square feet. Next door to him they are building a larger unit than his. trtr. Godlewski explained the 15 day appeal pQriod to the apolicant. ~'lanning Commission Minutes January 16, 1.989 - Page 4 IN RE: tJE4d HEAF.INGS CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 1734-$$ - SOUT9WESTERN AMMUNITION SERVICES, INC. A proposed Conditional Use Permit to allow manufacturing, storage and retail sales of small arms ammunition in the ^7-?_ zone on property located on the north side of Blueridge, west of Glassell Street, between Taft Avenue and Grove Street, addressed 223 West Blueridge. NOTE: Negative Declaration 1272 has been prepared for this project. Staff has received one letter objecting to the proposed use. Their primary objection is based on the potential. insurance cost increases to the properties nearby and the possible dangers to the employees at the referenced location. A staff report was not presented and the public hearing was opened. Applicant: Les Tingly, 231 Blueridge, stated they are working out of a location on Katella. That location does not afford them the ability to produce and manufacture the materials in an economic manner. They are looking to move to the new location so they can do a better job of manufacturing. The public hearing was closed. Commissioner Greek said the only problem he had with the project was the use of the parking by Mr. Tingly's business for open storage. He requested that Planning (Code Enforcement,) investigate and require all the fences being used for open storage in lieu of parking in the adjacent building be removed. If this project is approved, a condition needs to be made that prior to any occupancy that the storage fences be removed and the 22 parking stalls be provided. Chairman Bosch summarized Commissioner Greek's concerns: (1) P.equest Code Enforcement action to assure that all required parking is available for all. of the tenants of the buildings; and (2) To assure, before occupancy, that all 22 spaces required of this particular tenant be available for parking. Commissioner Hart noted that Santiago Air Conditioning owns the property. They are in violation of the parking code. Planning Commission Minutes January 16, 1989 - Page 5 Moved by Commissioner Scott, seconded by Commissioner Greek, that the Planning Commission accept the findings of the Environmental Review Board to file Negative Declaration 1272. AYES: Commissioners Bosch, Greek, Hart, Master, Scott NOES: None MOTION CARRIED Moved by Commissioner Greek, seconded by Commissioner Hart, that the Planning Commission approve Conditional Use Permit 1734-88 with the added condition to require that the 22 parking spaces be made avai].abl.e as required by Code prior to occupancy, and the existing storage fences be removed. AYES: Commissioners Bosch, Greek, Hart, Master, Scott PJOES: None MOTION CARRIED IN RE: NE{^~ HEARINGS CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 1737-88 - R.J. CBRISTOFF & ASSOCIATES, INC.: A proposed Conditional Use Permit to allow a two story second unit in the RCD zone on property located at the southwest corner of Palmyra Avenue and Shaffer Street, addressed 440 East Palmyra. NOTE: This project is exempt from environmental review. Mr. Godlewski presented the staff report. The proposed project meets all the code requirements for setbacks and areas. The project is in conformance cvith the goals of the RCD zone. The applicant proposes to retain the existing historically significant residence on the site, demolishing the garage and adding a structure which is in scale and compatible with the historical character of the existing structure. This project is subject to the Design Guidelines of Old Towne Standards, as well as the Demolition Ordinance. The public hearing was opened. Applicant: Steve Smith, 239 South Glassell, is the property owner and he purchased the property with the intention of conforming with the typa of structure that can be added to the back of the property. He hired an architect to carefully design a structure that would fit in with the type of neighborhood and historical significance and architecture of the existing structure. Those speaking in opposition: Planning Commission Minutes January 16, 1389 - Page 6 Craig Smith, 504 East Palmyra, structure would blend with the size of the proposed project, structure. did not feel the new neighborhood. Looking at the it seems to dwarf the original Allen Lowry, 512 East Palmyra, said the project looks like an apartment. It's a very massive unit with a 4-car garage. The two buildings are very close together and does not fit into the community. Renee Miller, 430 East Palmyra, had a couple of questions about the project: (1) How close would the proposed structure be to her property line (on the west side)? (Chairman Bosch responded it would be 5 feet according to the plan that was submitted.) (2) How large is the window that is facing west and is it off the bathroom or the bedroom? She is concerned about her privacy. (Chairman Bosch stated the plan shows the window to be in the bathroom, a double hung window.) {3) Are there any plans regarding a different fence or is it addressed at all? (Cha.irman Bosch said the plans show an existing block wall and no additional fence.) (4) She noted there are no windows facing north. Can this change after it has been approved? (Chairman Bosch explained the Commission's approval is with regard to land use and the impact of the building on the neighboring land uses. This would go to the Design Review Board for their review of the actual window placement, size, style, design, color, etc.) The public hearing was closed. Rebuttal-: 2~tr. Smith addressed the concerns of the neighbors as far as placing the windows. There is no thought of changing the design as shown on the plans. He wanted to assure the neighbors their privacy would be protected. They want to design the project with appropriate wood siding that is consistent with the type of structure that exists there now. They are asking to demolish the existing garage. It is an old structure that is not appropriately being used for parking automobiaes. Chairman Bosch commented the lot and location on a corner and adjacent to an alley helps mitigate the proposed structure. It has less impact than it would the same type of structure on a much smaller lot and in a mid-block location. He is concerned about the particular bathroom window, but needs to 1.Aave that for the Design Review Board. He pointed out an excellent job in conforming to the ~Jld Towne Design Guidelines and Standards. Planning Commission Minutes January 16, 1989 - Page 7 Moved by Commissioner Scott, seconded by Commissioner Hart, that the Planning Commission approve Conditional Use Permit 1737-88 subject to the conditions as listed. AYES: Commissioners Bosch, Greek, Hart, Master, Scott NOES: None MOTION CARRIED Commissioner Hart concurred the size of the lot is a pertinent issue. The other lot previously discussed was 6700 square feet and this lot is over 9000 square feet. Commissioner Greek discussed the fact that they should not require compliance with the Demolition Ordinance. A non-habitable type building is being demolished and does not have historical significance. Chairman Bosch suggested they refer this question to the attention of the City Council Committee with regard to demolition policies. IN RE: MISCELLANEOUS ITEMS Commissioner Scott wanted to surface the guidelines for the Demolition Ordinance, which so states that the amount (25~ floor area and 10~ building facade) is altered, that Commission communicates with the Council that it would be their recommendation that this pertains to the main structure only and not patios, accessory buildings, garages, etc. Mr. Minshew said the Ordinance reads, more than 50~ of the building to be demolished. Mr. McGee suggested this be brought to the Committee's attention. Many questions need to be resolved by the Committee. Commissioner Scott said an accessory building also needs to be defined. Chairman Bosch will forward these questions to the Committee. Commissioner Greek thought a preliminary review was needed. Commissioner Hart thought some written rules were needed to be applied to everyone. P. memorandum was received from the irJater Superintendent. Commissioner Greek asked staff to refer to the Minutes of January 4, 19$9, Page 3, and ask to have the report completed in accordance with those instructions. Planning Commission Minutes January lb, 1989 - Page 8 IN RE: ADJOURNMENT The Commission adjourned to January 30, 1989 at 5:00 p.m. for a study session in the Weimer Room to discuss the I.D.M. project. Then, adjourn to the next regular Planning Commission Meeting February 6, 1989, for a study session at 6:30 p.m. and public hearing at 7:00 p.m. The meeting adjourned at 8:15 p.m. /sld