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HomeMy WebLinkAbout1/20/1986 - Minutes PCC PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES City of Orange Orange, Cal iforni a January 20, 1986 Monday, 7:30 p.m. The regular meeting of the City of Orange Planning Commission was called to order by Chairman Mason at 7:30 p.m. PRESENT: Commissioners Mason, Greek, Hart, Master, Scott ABSENT: None STAFF Stan Soo-Hoo, Administrator of Current Planning and Commission PRESENT: Secretary; Jack McGee, Associate Planner; Gene Minshew, Assistant City Attorney; Gary Johnson, City Engineer, and Toba V. Wheeler= Recording Secretary. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE 0 IN RE: MINUTES OF DECEMBER 2,.1985 Moved by Commissioner Master, seconded by Commissioner Hart, that the minutes of December 2, 1985, be approved as recorded. AYES: Commissioners Greek, Hart, Master, Scott NOES: None ABSTAINED: Commissioner Mason MOTION CARRIED IN RE: MINUTES OF DECEMBER 76, 1985 Moved by Commissioner Hart, seconded by Commissioner Master, that the minutes of December 16, 1985, be approved as recorded. AYES: Commissioners Mason, Greek, Hart, Master, Scott NOES:. None MOTION CARRIED IN RE: MINUTES OF JANUARY 6, 1986 Moved by Commissioner Master, seconded by Commissioner Hart, that the minutes of January 6, 1986, be approved as recorded. 0 AYES: Commissioners Mason, Greek., Hart, Master.-5cott NOES: None IN RE: ITEMS TO BE CONTINUED OR WITHDRAWN Mr. Soo-Hoo said that Flower Street Associates has requested one additional continuance on Variance 1776 to the meeting of Febru- ary 3, 1986. Chairman Mason said this would be discussed when the item is reached on the agenda. r Planning Commission Minutes January 20, 1986 Page Two !IN RE: CONTINUED HEARINGS CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 1468 - TRU VALU INNS, INC, Proposed three-story, 29-unit motel within 120 feet of residentially. zoned property on a 15,464-square foot parcel in the C-3 zone on the east side of Main Street, 156 feet north of Palmyra Avenue. (Continued from the November 4, and December 2, 7985, Planning Commission meetings.) NOTE: Negative Declaration 1027 has been prepared for this project. Mr, Soo-Hoo made the presentation in accordance with the Staff Report and said Staff recommends acceptance of the Negative Declara- tion and approval of the Conditional Use Permit ,per the conditions in its. report. He said the variance which was originally part of the application is no longer required and the Planning Commission should acknowledge withdrawal of that variance. Chairman Mason opened the public hearing. Ken Paddock, architect, representing the applicant, said the building had been redesigned in accordance with Staff recommendations and he felt that it now met City requirements. Chairman Mason declared the public hearing closed, Commissioner Greek asked where the 30'- elevation started and Mr. Paddock said i t woul d be from the finished grade level . Moved by Commilssioner Master, seconded by Commissioner Hart, that the Planning Commission accept the findings of the Environmental Review Board to file Negative Declaration 1027. AYES: Commissioners Mason, Greek, Hart, Master, Scott NOES: None MOTION CARRIED Moved by Commissioner Master, seconded by Commissioner Scott,-that the Planning Commission approve Conditional Use Permit 1468 for. the reasons stated in the Staff Report,_subjeot to the conditions in the Staff Report,-and accepting withdrawal of the variance, Commissioner Greek said he would like-the height of the building to be no more than 31 feet above the top of the curb. Commissioner Master asked Mr. Johnson if this change would present a problem and Mr, Johnson said it would not. Commissioner Greek asked that Condition No. 1 be amended to read, "That structure height shall not exceed thirty feet above the pad elevation as approved by the City Engineer." This was acceptable,to both Commissioner Master and Commissioner Scott as maker and seconder of the motion, and it was voted upon as follows. .- • Planning Commission Minutes ,~ January 20, 1986 Page Three AYES: Commissioners Mason, Greek, Hart, Master, Scott NOES: None MOTION CARRIED IN RE: CONTINUED HEARINGS VARIANCE 1776 - FLOWER STREET ASSOCIATES Proposed 45-foot-high freeway oriented pole sign on 3.7 acres presently under construction fora mini-warehouse facility generally south from Almond Avenue, west from Flower Street, and adjacent to the east side of Orange (57) Freeway. (Continued from the October 21, November 4, November 18 and December 16, 1985, Planning Commission meetings.) NOTE: This project is exempt from Environmental Review Mr. Soo-Hoo repeated the applicant`s request fora continuance. Moved by Commissioner Scott, seconded by Commissioner Master, that this item be continued to the meeting of Februa ry 3, 1986, as requested by the applicant, AYES: Commissioners Mason, Greek, Hart, Master,-Scott NOES: None MOTION CARRIED IN RE: CONTINUED FIEARINGS CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 1467 - ANGELO`S Proposed drive through restaurant within the C~1 Zone located on a .44-acre parcel on the southeast corner of Tustin Street and Wilson Avenue. (Continued from the January 6 1986, Planning Commission meeting.) NOTE: This project is exampt from Environmental Review. Mr. Soo-Hoo made the presentation in accordance with the Staff Report,, He said Staff .has a number of concerns regarding this proposal:. 1) use of the drive-through window will block and obstruct fourteen parking spaces?-making. them unacceptable for vehicular access, 2) driveahrough customers will not be able to gain access to the drive-through lane by entering from Tustin, those who might enter from Tustin will need to make a very awkward maneuver within the parking `lot or exit onto Wilson and make a U-turn,-coming back into the lot from Wilson, 3) the drive through window wi_11 be locdted on the passengar side of ,vehicles..,-which will s1 ow down the use of ..the drive through and exacerbate the obstruction of parking spaces,-and 4) there will be carhops on roller skates delivering meals to cars parked in the lot, He said that any one of these concerns would cause a very significant concern for approval of this kind of a layout and the projection of all four concerns would cause quite a A Planning Commission Minutes January 20, 1986 Page Four lot of confusion in the parking lot as well as hazards to both the carhops and any pedestrians walking between their parked cars and the restaurant itself. For these reasons, he said, Staff feels the drive-through proposal is not adequate. and recommends that the condi- tional use permit request be denied; however, the applicant could still use the restaurant without the drive-through or carhop service. Commissioner Greek asked Mr. Johnson if the alley is dedicated or not; Mr. Johnson said he believes it is not.. Commissioner Master asked if there is in the review by the traffic department a prohi- bition on entering from Tustin Street to use the drive-through window. Mr. Soo-Hoo said he is sure the intent is that the drive- through service will not be encouraged from Tustin, but Staff`s concern is that some customers might inadvertently enter from Tustin and then need to make some .kind of adjustment either within the lot itself or by driving out to Wilson and turning around to re-enter. Commissioner Master asked what would happen if the applicant changed the plan to allow entery from Tustin; Mr. Soo-Hoo said this would be unacceptable because traffic would back up onto Tustin while waiting to reach the drive-through window to place orders. Chairman Mason opened the public hearing. The applicant was not present nor was there .anyone else wishing to speak, either in favor or against. Chairman Mason declared the public hearing closed. Moved by Commissioner Greek, seconded by Commissioner Master, that Conditional Use Permit 1467 be denied in accordance with Staff recommendations. AYES: Commissioners Mason, Greek, Hart, Master, Scott NOES: .None MOTION CARRIED IN RE: CONTINUED HEARINGS CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT. 1487, TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP 85-449 - NU WEST, INC. Proposed reparcelization of two existing parcels into three parcels and development of off ice uses within the M-2 ~Industria7) Zone, located on 8.1 acres on the .southeast corner of Kate7la Avenue and Main Street. (Continued from the January 6, 1986, Planning Commission meeting.) NOTE: Negative Declaration 1041 has been prepared for this project and was accepted for filing by the Planning Commission on January 6, 1986. Mr, McGee made a brief p~resEntation in accordance with the Staff Memo- randum, pointing out that a full presentation had been made at the meeting of January 6, 1986. He said Staff recommends approval subject to the conditions in its report. Planning Commission Minutes January 20, 1986 Page Five Commissioner Master repeated his comment from the previous hearing that it is fortunate. that the Planning Commission is not in a position to lead a development on this particular property or ones like it that would have a positive impact on the City and he still feels there would be a better use for this property. Chairman Mason opened the public hearing. Steve Prothero, archi- tect, 741 East Briardale, Orange, representing the applicant, said he agrees with all conditions in the Staff Report. Chairman Mason declared the public hearing closed. Moved by Commissioner Hart, seconded by Commissioner Greek, that the Planning Commission approve Conditional Use Permit 1487 subject to S~taff~~recommendations and the conditions in the Staff Report, and Tentative Parcel Map 85-449 subject to the Engineer`s Plan Check. Sheet. AYES:. Commissioners Mason, Greek, Hart, Master,-Scott NOES: None MOTION CARRIED IN RE: NEW HEARINGS GENERAL PLAN LAND USE AMENDMENT 1-86, ZONE CHANGE 1040, CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 1470 - KOLL COMPANY ' Proposed development of a high-rise off ice and commercial complex consisting of two office .buildings,-two multi-level parking structures and two restaurants, The proposed development is on a 12,5-acre site at the southwest corner of Orangewood Avenue and State College Boulevard, NOTE: Environmental Impact Report 1018 has been prepared for this project. Commissioner Greek asked to be excused from the hearing due to a conflict ~f irnterest. Bert K. Yamasaki, Director of Planning and Development Services, -made the presentation in accordance with the Staff Report. He said that as part of the applicant's request for the general plan land use. amendment, the zone change and the conditional use permit, he is also requesting approval ofrthe site plan by the~Planning Commission and at a later date, probably somewhat later this year., in order to activate the plan the applicant must request abandonment of the existing streets and the consolidation of the parcels for a tentative parcel map, at which time he will be required to submit a more precise site plan. Mr. Yamasaki said Staff is proposing that the City develop its own standards to be set at the time the precise site plan is submitted as part of the application later this year. Planning Commission Minutes January 20, 1986 Page Six Mr. Yamasaki said Staff recommends that the Planning Commission recommend to the City Council that it certify the Environmental Impact Report and approve the General Rlan Land Use Amendment, the Zone Change and the Conditional Use Permit. Commissioner Master asked if when the applicant comes back with a more precise plan and abandonment will it come before the Planning Commission. Mr. Yamasaki said normally that would not occur because the abandonment area would be before the City Council only; however, if the Planning Commission wants to see the plans, that request can be made part of the instructions to Staff and could even be added to conditional approval. Commissioner Master asked Mr. Yamasaki to put into perspective the action of the Planning Commission at this hearing and how it would affect the phasing in regard to the developer being able to complete the development. Mr. Yamasaki said what the Planning Commission is reviewing this evening is a plan for that portion of the entire quadrant that comprises the real lot lines of those lots on the south side of Walnut so that the approval that results will cover that portion.. He said the applicant is currently trying to acquire other portions. He said the EIR accepted the entire phase-out but what is occuring tonight is not the approval of the remaining portions yet to be acquired. He said when the developer has control of the remaining portions then they would be submitted for approval; in fact a portion of the entire quadrant is still unincorporated and must still undergo annexation to the City of Orange. Commissioner Master said his concern was with improvements that would be necessary with the development of .ingress and egress of potential developments years from now and he feels that total build-out would be conditioned upon that, yet that is not happening at this current time. He said he is concerned with improvements regarding future traffic conditions. Mr. Yamasaki said he thinks this concern is quite appropriate in terms of the longer term and he believes Staff will begin to look at steps that will need to'be taken to-provide for a higher intensity and there may be some other major improvements necessary that will become part of a need fora project that goes above and beyond what is being approved this evening. He said the financing .mechanism, the people who will be participating, the organizational structure which will make those improvements are all part of what Staff hopes will be eventual strategy plan. Commissioner Hart asked if it would be possible to condition ~n approval with a provision that the applicant have acquired and completed the purchase of the property in question. He pointed out that if .the property is rezoned. the bargaining power of the individual owners of the homes in the area has been taken away from them if it turns out that the Ko17 Company fails to perform. Therefore. he would like to see this done with an intent to rezone in order to protect the property owners. Planning Commission Minutes January 20, 1986 Page Seven Chairman Mason opened the public hearing.. Mike Lewis, Ko11 Company Vice President for Development, 4343 Von Karman, Newport Beach, said he concurs with the Staff Report and agrees with the conditions of approval for the project.. He said the Koll Company agrees to participate on a fair-share basis in future transportation improve- ment programs that might be enacted by the City. He said Kbll has purchase agreements covering the 51 lots and has the authority of the landowners to pursue a zone change, that the closing of the transactions is subject to eventually obtaining a zone change. Com- missioner Hart explained the concept of "intent to rezone" and Mr. Lewis said using that process is acceptable to the Koll Company. Several residents of the area--Bonnie Robinson, 114 North Walnut; James Ledbetter, 11572 Hollister; and Mary Lancaster, 471 Northeast Country Lane--spoke in favor of the project but apparently their homes are not now included in the particular portion of the project for which approval is now sought, and these homeowners were concerned about how the current project will affect their properties. Mr. Edgar Weichel, a7 so resliding on Hollister, spoke against the project. All four, whether for or against, were concerned with how the current project would affect their .properties and what could by done by the city of Orange, It was pointed out to a17 of them that there was nothing that could be done by the City concerning their situations. ~ Philip Quarre, Hartmann Corporation, 536 West'Lincoln, Anaheim, owners of five commercial/industrial buildings on Anaheim Boulevard, on approximately 4~ acres, said Hartmann is in favor of and welcomes the project and the Ko11 Company as its neighbor,-but is concerned with the abandonment and vacation of Country Lane and Walnut because they are the two main entry streets into the Hartmann property and the closure of those streets .would cause considerable hardship to Hartmann. He asked that the ingress and egress of the Kol1 Project on Walnut Street be redesigned to include a street that will go southwest and then northwest to what is now Country Lane and then southwest again into the Hartmann. property, or a similar configuration, so that there will be access to Hartmann. Mr. Lewis Mr, Lewis said the Koll Company is prepared to work with Mr. Quarre and the Hartmann Corpora- tion and will come up with a plan that is acceptable to both companies. Chairman Mason declared the public hearing closed. Moved by Commissioner Master, seconded by Commissioner Scotty-that the Planning Commission recommend to the City Council that it certify Environmental Impact Report 1018 and all pertinent supplementary information as Having been completed in compliance with the California Environmental Quality Act and the State and local guidelines for the implementation of CEQA, and that the City Council find that the miti- gation measures outlined in the EIR willlreduce to acceptable levels or eliminate any adverse environmental. impacts associated with this project, Planning Co January 20, Page Eight AYES: NOES: ABSENT: mmission Minutes 1986 Commissioners Mason, Hart, Master, Scott None Commissioner Greek MOTION CARRIED Moved by Commissioner Scott, seconded by Commissioner Hart, that the Planning Commission recommend to the City Council that it approve General Plan Amendment 186 deiignating the area from industrial. to Major Commercial Land Use based upon the findings that 1) the amendment would not be in conflict with surrounding existing and proposed land uses in both Anaheim and Orange,-and 2) the amendment will assist in the transition of the area from low density residential. and low intensity commercial and industrial uses to high intensity office and commercial land uses, AYES:. Commissioners Masan,. Hart, Master, Scott NOES: None ABSENT:. Commissioner Greek MOTION CARRIED Moved by Commissioner Scott, seconded by Commissioner Hart, that the Planning Commission recommend to the City Council that it approve Zone Change 1040 designating the subject property to be zoned C-1 (Limited Business District) based on the following findings: 1) That the proposed zoning is consistent with the City of Orange General Plan as amended above,-and 2) that the proposed zoning is compatible with surrounding zoning and land use, Commissioner Master said he has no problem with this motion but he feels that item 2) can be contested because the land in the area is in transition, He requested the additions of ,the wording, "this land is in transition from residential to higher use commercial." The additional wording was accepted by both Commissioner Hart and Commissioner Scott, the maker and seconder of the motion, thereby changing Item 20 above to read "that the proposed zoning is compatible with surrounding zoning and land use which is now in transition from low density residential and low intensity commercial and industrial uses to high intensity office and commercial land uses, _-- AYES:. Commissioners Mason, Hart, Master, Scott NOES:. None ABSENT:. Commissioner Greek MOTION CARRIED Moved by Commissioner Hart,-seconded by Commissioner Master,-that the Planning Commission recommend to the City Council-that it approve Conditional. Use Permit 1470 based on the following findings: 1 the proposal is based on sound land use principles and in response to services required by the surrounding communitiesy 2) the proposal .will not cause deterioration of surrounding land uses or create special problems for the area, and 3) the proposal is compatible with surrounding land use and zoning which is now in transition Planning Commission Minutes January 20, 1986 Page Nine from low density residential and low intensity commercial and industrial uses to high intensity office and commercial land uses; and subject to the conditions in the Staff Report. AYES: Commissioners Mason, Hart, Master, Scott NOES: None ABSENT:. Commissioner .Greek MOTION CARRIED IN RE: NEW HEARINGS CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 1486 - CHAPMAN COLLEGE Proposed college campus expansion through the construction of a four-story, 92,000-square foot building addition in the Public Institution (P-I) District,. within 120 feet of residentially zoned (R-176) property. NOTE: Negative Declaration 1040 has been prepared for this project. Jim Reichert, Associate Planner, made the presentation in accordance with the Staff Report, and said Staff recommends approval subject to the 22 conditions in its report. Commissioner Master asked for clarification of a letter from Bernie Dennis, City Traffic Engineer, regarding his concerns on traffic safety and parking, and also questioned the parking ratio of one parking stall for every six students .as well as commenting upon the impact additional traffic and need for parking would have upon the residents of the area adjacent to the college. Mr. Reichert. commented that Staff did receive a letter from some of the adjacent property owners requesting that this matter be continued for two weeks, Bernie Dennis,-City Traffic Engineer, said he shares Commissioner Master`s concerns and said his office has received many letters over a period of years regarding parking of students on residential streets thereby not leaving enough room for the property owners to park. He said he believes some remedial action has to be taken. to maintain the integrity of the adjacent residents and he feels Chapman College should be a participant in this remedial action. He discussed the possibility of a permit parking program on resi- dential streets, but admitted it would be difficult to administer and enforce. Commissioner Hart asked if permit parking by ;residents has been attempted in other areas and, if so, how successful it has been.. Mr. Dennis said it has never been uti}:i.~zed in the City of Orange but has been used quite extensively around campuses in the Los Angeles area,~around the convention center in Anaheim and in some areas of Garden Grove,-and it does work, Commissioner Hart said it could perhaps be tried in this area and if Chapman College does indeed feel its parking spaces will be sufficient, it won`t -have an objection to permit parking bn the sheets by residents. Planning Commission Minutes January 20, 1986 Page Ten Chairman Mason opened the public hearing. Mr. G. T. Smith, president of Chapman College, said he concurs with-the Staff Report and its recommendations. He said it is of great importance to the college to get started on the new building as it is wanted for usage when the academic year starts in September, 1987. He said that regarding parking he concurs in Mr. Dennis` concern and is aware of the parking problems which he believes is the respons- ibility of the college, not the. residents or Citya to solve. He said that at present students and staff must buy a ~l0 per semester sticker to park in college facilities and he feels that many do not buy this sticker, preferring to save money and park on the streets. He says they are now coming up with an alternative procedure which will require every employee and every student to register their-cars at no fee, for which they will be gi~!en a stickbr granting them acces's to co liege parking facilities. He pointed out that this could also be used as a restriction against parking on the streets; in other~nvords,-the sticker could be used against them if .they are parked on the street. He said it has never been the intent of the college to be non cooperative and obstructive. Commissioner Hart pointed out that since there are more students than parking spaces at the college., there will be parking on the street at any rate and therefore. what's to force the students to put the stickers on their cars so they are apprehended for parking on the street; in other words, knowing they will be cited for parking on the street, they will simply not affix the sticker to the car. Commissioner Hart says he doesn't believe the ratio is correct; he doesn`t visualize six students .using~:onei~parking space, even con- sidering the fact that not all students are on the campus at the same time, He said the residents in the area have been punished over the years by having to put up with the lack of parking and he feels it is now up to the City to correct the situation. Mr. Smith agreed. it is possible that the college will need additional space. Commissioner Master asked if there is any way the college has of knowing the automobile population of its faculty and students and if so, what is the best judgment as to what this amount might be. Mr, Smith said he feels the college needs double what it has at the moment and therefore they are increasing parking spaces by 50% in the hope of solving the problem, He said if it is found that this is not enough, they will find another way to solve the problem, such as prohibiting freshmen from having cars, or finding additional space. Commissioner Scott asked if there are any records of the days and hours of student attendance and how this affects parking. Mr, Smith said the hours of attendance have a great effect on parking and the college has changed teaching hours to better disseminate the parked cars. Deborah McLaughlin, 406 North Shaffer, Orange, spoke against the proposed project, stating that the increased traffic from the new parking lot would be dangerous to children in the area. She mentioned the residents' letter requesting continuance. Planning Commission Minutes January 20, 1986 Page Eleven John O'Dell, 414 North Shaffer, pointed out that not everyone in the area, primarily renters of the homes, are aware of this proposal and the hearing and therefore he feels a continuance would be in order. He asked what will happen during construction of the new building and commented on the visual impact to the neighborhood residents of another tall building so close to their homes. He also said he feels it is not right to expect the residents to use a perking permit program nor does he believe students will put stickers on their cars, so the problem will still be there, He also mentioned the residents' letter requesting continuance. He said there is a need for. the college to come up with a master plan to let the people in the area know what is being planned and what is being done. Mr. O'Dell said Chapman!, College does not have a history of being a really good neighbor. He pointed out that the area proposed to be torn down to make room for the parking lot now contains homes owned by the college and rented to tenants over whom the college apparently has no control. since the properties have been neglected, thereby depreciating the neighborhood and disheartening the residents who would like to know the college`s plans for the..future so they know what they have to do. He said they would be less apprehensive about the dollege as a neighbor if they knew what was going on. He also complained about the lights from the stadium shining into the adjacent homes late at night. He said those who signed the letter would like the continuance so they can contact all residents and present a constructive list of alternatives to the present proposal. He said Chapman College owns other land that could be made into a parking structure and also offered the suggestion to build two two-story buildings rather than one four-story building, He pointed out that if the current plans for the parking lvt are carried out, it should be shielded f nom the residents of Center Street who would be facing it. Joe Susty, 409 North Shaffer Street, and Steve Taylor, 363. North Center Street., bath expressed agreement with Mr. 0`Dell`s state merits and made similar comments. Mr, Smith invited those who spoke and other interested persons to get together with him and address some of the things they brought up. He said it is not the intent of the college to go east of Center Street and the college master plan is within the bounds of ,the property a7 ready owned by the college. Chairman Mason declared the public hearing closed. Commissioner Greek said he feels that the college really has not solved the problem. and if this was an office building it would require 450 parking spaces; in facti a school should have even. more, He said he wants.a more definitive plan Qf what-is going to be done, that the Planning Commission should have a better idea of • Planning Commission Minutes January 20, 1986 Page Twelve what is really required and what will be done. Commissioner Greek said he doesn't know the square footage of the buildings on the campus and it is unreal to expect a ratio of six students to one parking space. He said he cannot support this application. because the parking problem has not been solved. Commissioner Hart asked Commissioner Greek what he feels would be a satisfactory plan for anything he could support and how long he thinks it would take to get it. Commissioner Greek said he wants a parking study. made of the campus-~he doesn`t want ideas of what could be done, he wants a definite plan of what will be done, He said he needs definitive information, with a plan, not guesses. He said he likes having a college in Orange but he cannot support this proposal, Commissioner Hart requested that the public hearing be reopened. Chairman Mason reopened the public hearing. She asked President Smith if he would like to recommend a continuance.. Mr. Smith said Chapman College has done a parking study and feels it is very thorough, He said they have to recognize that at any one time only 40% of the student population is on campus. He said he thinks there should be a six-month period to see if the parking lot works. Commissioner Greek said this has been done in the past and. now there is a real problem, so the time to decide what to do is before construction begins. He feels the problem should be solved prior to construction rather than waiting until afterward and then finding out it can`t be solved. Mr. Smith asked if the conditional use permit can be granted so the college can get on with the planning of the building and address the parking problem at the same time, William Bluerock, 2300~;Newport:B~ulevard, Newport Beach, architect for the proposed building, said they have tried to assemble statistics to come up with logical answers to correspond with the City Code, He said less than 40% of the students are on the campus at any one time, some are living on campus, some use the bus, the~~efore he feels there is a ratio of two students per car. He read from the conditions in the Staff Report and said they can`t guarantee there won't be a problem but he doesn't think there will be one. He said he doesn`t recommend compound parking as opposed to surface parking, Commissioner Greek said there are 440 .employees that need parking spaces which, added to the 800 students that are 40% of .the total student population, makes a total of over 1200 parking spaces needed, Mr.~Blu.erock said the dormitory students living on the campus won`t use the proposed new parking lot. Commissioner Greek said ho defini- five statistics have been presented, only op%n ions,-and he needs to see some firm figures from a traffic study analysis. He said the Commission does not have a traffic study and it doesn`t have a positive plan to follow. He said parking has been a problem at Planning Commission Minutes January 20, 1986 Page Thirteen the college for a long time. Commissioner Greek said he needs something more definitive to define what the parking requirements will be and the route Chapman College is going to take. Chairman Mason declared the public hearing closed. Commissioner Master pointed out that if the application is turned down there is still the problem of the present lack of adequate parking and if the application is approved then there will be even more parking needed. Commissioner Greek said there are letters in the file going back to October regarding this problem but he sees no progress having been made since then. Commissioner Hart said his concern is not the actual figures but whether or not the plan will work. Commissioner Hart said he would like to see some agree- ment between Chapman College and the City that if this is built and in six months it is obvious that there is not enough parking, the college will do something to have more parking. Commissioner Master pointed out the wording of Conditions 1 and 2 on page 12 of the Staff Report, refering to Chapman College's "parking control plan" and "parking management plan." Commissioner Greek said there is no parking control plan at Chapman College. Chairman Mason suggested continuance for two weeks to iron out the things discussed at this hearing, Commissioner Greek said it will be necessary to .have from Chapman College an indication of its parking needs and a plan for policing the parkingi then the parking situation can be looked at in six months to see if it is working, He said he still wants individual parking considerations or even to have the City Traffic Engineer look-over the plan. He said what is before the Commission now is just opinions, not anything definitive, and the Commission cannot make a decision on what it has now. Commissioner Scott said he supports Commissioner Harts suggestion for agreement and review in six months. He pointed out that actually the Planning Commission doesn`t know if .the entire campus is being included because it doesn`t know what is being torn down to erect the proposed building and parking lot. Mr, Minshew said he would draft an agreement if he can find out what the Commission wants. It was agreed that Conmisioner Hart, Commissioner Scott and Mr. Minshew would get together to work out an agreement, Moved by Commissioner Scott, seconded by Commissioner Hart, that Conditional Use Permit 1486 be continued to tho maeting of Febru- ary 3, 1986, allowing Chapman Co'11ege to submit figures as to what is going to be torn down and allowing Commissioner Hart,-Mr, Minshew and himself time to get together and draft an agreement. Mr. Smith said that this was not agreeable to him or to Chapman College. AYES Commissioners Mason, Greek, Hart,-Master, Scott NOES: None MOTION CARRIEp ~ . --~ Planning Commission Minutes January 20, 1986 Page Fourteen Mr. O'Dell asked if a public hearing is required for the continuance. Chairman Mason responded that a public hearing is not required but there can be one. IN RE: NEW HEARINGS CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 1202-A - HE LIVES FAITH CENTER Proposed church use within the Industrial M-2 Zone on a .39~-acre parcel on the southeast corner of Main Street and Alvarez Avenue (645 North Main Street). NOTE: Negative Declaration 762 has been filed previously for this use and has been amended to consider this site. Mr. McGee made the presentation in accordance with the Staff Report and said Staff recommends that the Planning Commission reactivate and extend Conditional Use Permit 1~ prior to considering 1202-A. He said Staff has re-evaluated the Negative Declaration and suggests action on it be reaffirmed. He said Staff recommends approval of Conditional Use Permit 1202-A for temporary use of the facility. Chairman Mason opened the public hearing. Tom Barkey, pastor of the He Lives .Faith Center, 1374 Carl Street, Anaheim, said he 'has reviewed the conditions and agrees with them;. in fact,-the church has already met most pf .them in working with-the Fire Department, He said some conditions were not met in the past because of a mis~ understanding; when that was realized the conditions were then met, He said the condition that was not met was recording the parking p~ermi_ts with the County Recorder, but that has now been done. He said the Staff person who was working on this application left the City employ and Mr, McGee is the third person assigned to it, Mr. McGee stated he did not become involved with this application until six weeks ago. Chairman Mason declared the public hearing closed. Moved by Commissioner Scott, seconded by Commissioner Master, that the Planning Co mission extend Conditional Use Permit 1202-~+e~}- ~e~' ~ki~sw `fin d~r ~ Jati-~ ~d l e f~~eM ~ air- ~ ~g ~~b~, ,n~,~.o ~a AYES: Commissioners Mason, Hart, Master, Scott NOES: Commissioner Greek MOTION CARRIED ipG c~~~t~e~-e/l Moved by Commissioner Scott,--seconded by Commissioner Master,--that the Planning Commission approve theienvironmental review for Condi- tional Use Permit 1202-A as it has no adverse environmental effects, and that Negative Declaration 762 be accepted. AYES :_ Commissioners Mason, Hart,-Master, Scott NOES: Commissioner Greek MOTION CARRIED ~~ _. J _ .. ... .-s .... .-.. r-tr H.,._ - s ~dr .. ,, . ~_- i' ~'` C I? 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AYES: Commissioners Mason, Hart, Master, Scott NOES: Commissioner Greek MOTION CARRIED IN RE: NEW HEARINGS CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 1457 - TONTI/GARCIA Proposed construction of a second-story unit over a garage within the RD-6 (Residential Duplex) RCD (Residential Combining District) Zone on a .14-acre parcel on the east side of Batavia Street, south of Chapman Avenue (141 S. Batavia Street). NOTE: This project is exempt from Env ironmental Review. Mr. Soo-Hoo made the presentation in accordance with the Staff Report and said Staff recommends approval subject to the conditions in its report. Chairman Mason opened the public hearing. Joaquin Garcia, applicant, 141 S. Batavia Street, said he understands all the conditions and agrees with them. David Shelley, 131 South Batavia Street, said he is against approval of this project because it will be five feet from his fence overlooking his back yard. He said he already has one on one side and he doesn`t want it on .both sides, Dennis Gerry., 152 South Batavia Street, said there is already a parking problem on the street and an additional residential unit will add to it. He said the applicant already has a second-story apartment in use in his home, which he claims will be eliminated when the unit over the garage is built, Commissioner Greek pointed out Conditions 1 and 10 and asked what is the guarantee that there will not be a third unit on the property. Commissioner Hart asked what the applicant intends to do. Mike Gale,-173 South Batavia Street, said any apartment in the area would be seen from any home in the area and therefore would detract from the area's appearance. Commissioner Hart poiocted out that the property is zoned for this. He asked Mr, Garcia if he realized that the maximum allowed on the property would be two units which he already had with the apartment on the second floor of his home, Mr. Garcia said he plans to use the second floor of his home for a family room and wants the rental unit to be over the garage, Planning Commission Minutes January 20, 1986 Page Sixteen Commissioner Hart asked Mr. Garcia if, in that case, he would be willing to close the outside exit and staircase to the second floor. Mr. Garcia asked why he should close the exist and s~haircase. Commissioner Hart said that would prevent him from renting it and having three units. Mr. Garcis said if the Commission thinks the exit and stairway should be removed he will remove it. Commissioner Scott asked about the windows on the new structure and if they will be high enough to not interfere with the privacy of the neighbors. Commissioner Hart said it appears that all of the windows and even a balcony are on the north side and that seems excessive. He suggested a continuance to revise the plans so that there is no encroachment on the neighbors. Mr. Garcia. said the staircase to the second floor of his house is inside, not outside, and is the only way of reaching the second floor. Discussion followed on the possibility of his trying to have a triplex with two rental units, He was asked if he would agree to a continuance so he could revise his plans. He agreed to this and said he would .contact his builder, Moved by Commissioner Hart, matter be continued to the the applicant to revise his consult with Staff prior to AYES: Commissioners Mason, Greek, NOES: None IN RE: OTHER BUSINESS seconded by Commissionr Scott, that this neeti ng of February l 9,- 1986, to allow plans, and. suggested that the draftsman going ahead with new plans. Hart, Master, Scott MOTION CARRIED Commissioner Hart brought up the matter of the memorandum from Mr, McGee regarding a notice from the County Tax Col7ectorlTreasurer concerning a request for separate tax bi}7s for portions of parcels at 535-539 W, Walnut and 501 W. Palm.. It was discussed and decided that Staff should straighten this out, IN RE: ADJOURNMENT The meeting was adjourned at 11:20 p,m,, to reconvene at a regular meeting on February 3, 1986, at 7:.30. p.m „= at the Civic Center Council Chambers, 300 East Chapman Avenue, Orange,--California ,~