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HomeMy WebLinkAbout10/20/1988 - Minutes PC -~v PL~iNNING CO!!l~IISSIOZI MII10TS3 City of Orange October 20, 1988 Orange, California Thursday - 7:00 p.m. PRESENT: Commissioners Bosch, Greek, Hart, Master, Scott ABSENTs None STAFF PRESENT: John Godlewski, Sr. Planner & Commission Secretary; Jack McGee, Administrator - Current Planning; Gene Minshew, Assistant City Attorney= Gary Johnson, City Engineer; and Sue Devlin, Recording Secretary PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE IN RE: MINOTES OF SEPTEMBER 26, 1988 AND OCTOBER 3, 1988 Moved by Commissioner Bosch, seconded by Commissioner Hart, that the Planning. Commission approve the Minutes of September 26, 1988 and October 3, 1988 as recorded. -o AYES: Commissioners Bosch, Greek, Hart, Master, Scott NOESs None MOTION CARRIED IN RE: ITEMS TO BE WITHDRAWN COI~DITIOI~AL ©SE PER!!IT 1636 - LA VSTA LTD. s Proposed Conditional Use Permit to allow the development of a skilled nursing care convalescent facility in the C-1 cone, and approval of a subdivision of property whereby a lot is created without direct access to a public street. Subject property .is a 3.7 acre parcel located on the south side of LaVeta Avenue between Main Street and the access ramp to the Garden Grove Freeway, addressed 1000 LaVeta Avenue. NOTE: Negative Declaration 1182 has been prepared for this project. :7 This application has been continued from the December 21, 1987, January 18, 1988 and February 17, 1988 Planning Commission Meetings. Staff received a phone call from the applicant requesting the item be withdrawn. Moved by Commissioner Hart, seconded by Commissioner Master, that the Planning Commission deny Conditional Use Permit 1636 without prejudice. AYES: Commissioners Bosch, Hart, Master, Scott NOES: Commissioner Greek MOTION CARRIED .' Planning Commission Minutes ' October 20, 1988 - Page 2 Commissioner Greek voiced his opinion on continuances. He preferred to deny with prejudice. IN RE: ITEMS TO BE CONTINUED COMDITIONI~IL DSB PERMIT 1717-88 -LORI L1l~iG: Proposed Conditional Use Permit to allow a commercial recreational use in the M-2 zone on property located on the west side of Batavia Street between Ratella Avenue and Taft Avenue, addressed 1414 North Batavia Street. NOTE: Negative Declaration 1259 has been prepared for this project. A letter has been received from the gymnastics school requesting to continue the item to the Planning Commission Meeting of November 7, 1988. Moved by Commissioner Bosch, seconded by Commissioner Hart, that the Planning Commission continue Conditional Use Permit 1717-88 to the November 7, 1988 meeting at the applicant's request. AYES: Commissioners Bosch, Greek, Hart, Master, Scott NOESs None MOTION CARRIED IN RE: NEW HEARINGS ?S11TPi?IV6 ?81i1CT 13725 AUD zO~IS Ce1~iGB 11D1-88 - JBl~11E?TB MGOZ611 s Proposed Tentative Tract Map to subdivide 1.025 acres into 5 lots, a Bone Change from R-1-7 (7,000 square foot minimum lot sine) to R-1-6 (6,000 square foot minimum lot size) and an Administrative Adjustment to reduce the lot widths from the required 60 feet to 54.7 feet on all 5 lots. Subject property is located on the west side of Prospect Street, between Collins Avenue and Walnut Avenue. NOTE: Negative Declaration 1256 has been prepared for this project. The staff report was presented by John Godlewski. The applicant is requesting to divide a little over one acre parcel into five lots. The request for the Zone Change would allow a reduced frontage requirement that would facilitate the five individual lots. The actual square footage of the lots is still above 7,000 square feet. The zoning on the surrounding property is currently R-1-6. Property across Prospect is R-1-7. . •• ~ planning Commission Minutes October 20, 1988 - Page 3 In addition to the request for the Tentative Tract is also the request for an Administrative Adjustment, which would further allow a reduction in lot frontage. Ultimately, the lot frontage would result in 54.7 feet of frontage for each lot. The public hearing was opened. Bruce Blank, P.O. Box 6308, Anaheim, proposes the Zone Change and the five lot subdivision to allow creation of five parcels that do meet the 7,000 square foot requirement, but due to the street frontage that is available, the reduction of lot width was requested to facilitate the development. The property to the west, which he understands to be a Master Planned development, would be the same zoning they are requesting their property be changed to. They find the proposed conditions are acceptable, but would like to request consideration on No. 5 -- hammer head driveways. It is their understanding that the hammer head turnarounds that are being requested by the Engineering Department are because of the current nature of Prospect Avenue as a collector arterial. They understand the adjacent development westerly will re-route Prospect Avenue, reducing the current Prospect Avenue to a standard residential type street. If it does become a residential street, then the hammer head turnarounds would not be required on the property. Chairman Scott commented that the other development to the west is basically under consideration and it has not been approved. Thusly, the final alignment of Prospect has not been approved. The condition is stipulated by Engineering staff and (the applicant) would have to come back to request relief if the development to the west is approved. Mr. Johnson believes this road may continue to be a through street. The condition of the street has not been established. It may still be required even though Prospect would take a different location. Those speaking in opposition: Eddie Albright, 642 North Glenrose, opposed the street frontage. The frontage is now going from 70 to 60 and then after they go to 60, they will ask for another variance on that. He feels it will affect the property. He does not want it to affect the property behind it. The majority of the property is R-7. Planning Commission Minutes October 20, 1988 - Page 4 Stanley Rasteka, 3702 E1 Carmen, was opposed to the size of the lots. The public hearing was closed. Commissioner Bosch wanted to be sure there wasn't some other allowance under the R-1-6 development standards than those that are directly addressed to allow some density development or to change lot coverage. The request is to reduce the frontage. (Staff responded that was correct.) Commissioner Hart commented on the request for the Zone Change and after the Zone Change, a reduction in the standards on the Zone Change requested. That is a double-dip approach. There is no hardship. Commissioner Greek suggested acting on each item individually -- do not tie them together. Moved by Commissioner Greek, seconded by Commissioner Bosch, that the Planning Commission recommend the City Council to accept the findings of the Environmental Review Board to file Negative Declaration 1256. AYESs Commissioners Bosch, Greek, Hart, Master, Scott NOESs None MOTION CARRIED Moved by Commissioner Greek, seconded by Commissioner Bosch, that the Planning Commission recommend the City Council to approve Zone Change 1101-88. AYESs Commissioners Bosch, Greek, Hart, Master, Scott NOESs None MOTION CARRIED Moved by Commissioner Greek, seconded by Commissioner Master, that the Planning Commission recommend the City Council to deny Tentative Tract 13725 because the tract does not comply to the zone requirements for lot width and R-1-6 zoning. AYES: Commissioners Bosch, Greek, Hart, Master, Scott NOES: None MOTION CARRIED Moved by Commissioner Greek, seconded by Commissioner Master, that the Planning Commission recommend the City Council to deny an Administrative Adjustment permit on the grounds it is an unreasonable request. AYES: Commissioners Bosch, Greek, Hart, Master, Scott NOES: None MOTION CARRIED Planning Commission Minutes - October 20, 1988 - Page 5 Commissioner Hart explained the motions that were made. The Zone Change was approved, but the applicant will not be able to build five lots on the tract; only four lots. IN RE: NEW HEARINGS ZONB CBANGB 1102-88 - QOABER S?I~TB I~lII~1IT-LOBE, INC. s Proposed Zone Change from C-1 to C-2 to allow the development of a "Minit-Cube" service station on property situated at the northeast corner of Chapman Avenue and Earlham Street, addressed 4301 and 4315 East Chapman Avenue. NOTE: Negative Declaration 1255 has been prepared for this project. A staff report was not presented and the public hearing was opened. ® James Russell, 2130 East Fourth Street, #120, Santa Ana, real estate manager for Quaker State Minit-Cube, explained the nature of their business. They do ® lubrications, oil changes and filters as their only business. They do not have any lifts in their facilities. They operate out of a "pit". One of the concerns is the appearance of the bays to the street. They are somewhat flexible on that. They provide a waiting room for their customers. He handed their brochures to the Commission for review. Mechanical repairs are not conducted and he feels they are a clean operation. Jody Robbins, 2130 East Fourth Street, #120, Santa Ana, works for Quaker State Minit-Cube. He addressed the concern of the bay doors facing the street. Initially, they submitted their proposal with the building facing the opposite direction. Comments from the City Engineer regarding the flow of traffic on the property prompted the current proposal. Another concern is the bay doors facing the street. He stressed if the bay doors were away from the street, it opens up the visibility triangle and has a much greater impact than at the street. Minit-Cube also accepts oil from the neighbor who does his own oil change. Commissioner Bosch spoke about the preliminary site plan and floor plan. The floor plan shows a potential for an additional bay in the building. Is there an intent to do that in the future? - Planning Commission Minutes October 20, 1988 - Page 6 Mr. Robbins stated there will only be two bays at this location. The plans are national plans. There are no plans for a third bay. Commissioner Bosch observed a loop driveway has been aadea from the parking area to the north to the front driveway. His question related to the operation and flow through from the service bays. What is the operational procedure of their service and what is the true use of that loop driveway to get from the rear to the front. How would you return cars to the parking spaces? Mr. Robbins explained their average service time is 12 minutes. The customer pulls to the rear, the attendant comes out and gives him the ticket work. The customer is escorted to the waiting room and the tech pulls the car into the bay. When the work is completed, the tech drives the car out onto that apron and at the same time, the attendant is bringing out the customer. Cars are not left there. Their highest volume is during the lunch hour. Engineering's concern for the loop drive was if there were ears stacked there and someone didn't have time to wait, they would have to back out. That was put in as an escape lane in case a customer did not want to wait. Chairman Scott said the site plan lacks dimensions. Can you exit onto Earlham? According to the plan, it looks like an entrance only. Will the sign meet the code? Commissioner Greek stated Planning Commission would be better off without site plans. Is it the right kind of use? He wished there was a way to approve this kind of use rather than saying a Zone Change. Commissioner Hart does not like the open bays on Chapman Avenue. He thought the exit and entrance could be accommodated on Earlham. Commissioner Master commented the issue is really C-2 zoning. The public hearing was closed. Moved by Commissioner Greek, seconded by Commissioner Hart, that the Planning Commission recommend to the City Council to approve Zone Change 1102-88. AYES: Commissioners Greek, Hart NOESs Commissioners Bosch, Master, Scott MOTION FAILED Planning Commission Minutes October 20, 1968 - Page 7 Commissioner Master had difficulty with the C-2 designation. There is a need for the service, but they are looking at establishing the beginning of a C-2 situation on Chapman Avenue and it is not appropriate. He is concerned about what C-2 does and cannot support a C-2 zone change. Commissioner Greek stated the use is reasonable with the uses that are existing. Commissioner Hart said the City Council made a decision about the auto-related uses that will punish anyone that comes in for an auto-related use. The only thing is to ask for a zone change. A zone change should stand on it's own and not be conditioned. The Commission discussed the issue of C-1 and C-2 zoning at length as it relates to auto-related uses. The Commission feels this should not be a zone change, it should be allowed within the existing zoning. Moved by Commissioner Bosch, seconded by Commissioner Master, that the Planning Commission recommend the City Council to deny Zone Change 1102-88 without prejudice as the use is appropriate in the C-1 zone. This does not require a zone change for this use. AYES: Commissioners Bosch, Greek, Hart, Master, Scott NOESs None MOTION CARRIED Mr. Godlewski explained the request for the zone change from C-1 to C-2 was denied. However, Commission is of the opinion that the use is an appropriate use in the C-1 zone and has recommended that this information be forwarded to Council. IN RE: ADJOURNMENT It was moved to adjourn to Thursday, October 27, 1988 at 6s00 p.m. in the Weimer Room for the purposes of a study session to discuss the adequacy of the corrections made to the Chapman College revised hearing draft on the Specific Plan previously approved by the Commission, and to discuss the Old Towne Demolition Ordinance Committee request forwarded by the City Councils and further, to adjourn to the November 7, 1988 regular meeting with a 6:30 p.m. study session and a 7:00 p.m. public hearings and to a November I4, 1988 meeting at 5:00 p.m. in the Weimer Room to study the proposed revised Parking Ordinance and the proposed Second Unit Ordinance. The meeting adjourned at 8:00 p.m. /sld