HomeMy WebLinkAbout11/6/1989 - Minutes PCPLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES
City of Orange November 6, 1989
Orange, California Monday - 7:00 p.m.
PRESENT: Commissioners Bosch, Hart, Scott
ABSENT: Commissioners Greek, Master
STAFF
PRESENT: Joan Wolff, Sr. Planner and Commission Secretary;
John Godlewski, Administrator of Current Planning;
Luis Rodriguez, Sr. Assistant City Attorney;
Gary Johnson, City Engineer; and
Sue Devlin, Recording Secretary
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
IN RE: MINUTES OF OCTOBER 9, 1989
IN RE:
Moved by Commissioner Scott, seconded by Commissioner Hart,
that the Minutes of October 9, 1989 be approved as
corrected: Page 2, last paragraph, 7th line, add the word
"t o" -- ...minimum lot size has been increased to 4,000
square feet. Page 8, last paragraph, 3rd line, change 195
units to 180 units. Page 23, Q.3., 3rd paragraph, 3rd line,
correct spelling of inpour. It should be import.
AYES: Commissioners Bosch, Hart, Scott
NOES: None
ABSENT: Commissioners Greek, Master
MINUTES OF OCTOBER 16, 1989
MOTION CARRIED
Moved by Commissioner Scott, seconded by Commissioner Hart,
that the Minutes of October 16, 1989 be approved as
corrected: Page 8, 2nd paragraph, to read: "Mr. Herrick
said the City could condition any approval on the
requirement for a homeowners' association for this tract.
It would have to be justified by the circumstances of the
existing tract and what is being proposed. There is no
authority to require this tract to join a homeowners'
association established for another tract."
AYES: Commissioners Hart,
NOES: None
ABSTAINED: Commissioner Bosch
ABSENT: Commissioners Greek,
Scott
Master MOTION CARRIED
IN RE: CONTINUED HEARINGS
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 1790-89 - SANTA FE PACIFIC REALTY
CORPORATION:
Proposed Conditional Use Permit to allow office use in
excess of the 25~ accessory use permitted in the industrial
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zone on property located on the north side of Taft Avenue
between Glassell and Neville Streets, addressed 307 and 415
West Taft Avenue.
NOTE: Negative Declaration 1317-89 has been prepared for
this project.
Ms. Wolff commented this item was continued from the October
16 meeting. At that time the Planning Commission already
acted on the Negative Declaration. The only decision to be
acted on is regarding the Conditional Use Permit. Staff has
met with the applicant and the proposal has been revised to
incorporate a more specific allocation of uses within the
center. The new proposal is more consistent with the kind
of approvals which have been seen previously. Staff felt it
would be much easier to administer than the original
proposal presented previously.
Commissioner Scott asked if the TSIP fees would be paid with
the issuance of the first permit by the applicant?
Ms. Wolff said that was correct. A list of revised
conditions were attached to the staff report and the
condition is now worded that TSIP fees would be paid prior
to issuance of the first occupancy permit as discussed at
the last meeting.
The public hearing was opened.
Applicant
Jim Young, represented Santa Fe Pacific Realty, 3230 East
Imperial Highway, Brea. He submitted a package to the
Commissioners, which was color coded to show their proposed
specific office build out for each individual portion of the
buildings. The second sheet shows the estimated parking
allocation for each one and how it ties into the overall
parking that has been provided in the development. Page 3
and 4 are proposed build outs for two tenants they are
dealing with now, which tie in closely to their proposed
density. It is not traditional office space, but the way
the zoning is designed they had to consider it to a specific
density of office build out. Also included were letters
from the two specific tenants regarding their approximately
amount of usage in terms of personnel. They are not going
to be retail, but showroom type display tenancies.
The public hearing was closed.
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Moved by Commissioner Hart, seconded by Commissioner Scott,
that the Planning Commission approve Conditional Use Permit
1790-89 subject to the conditions as shown on the new
memorandum of October 25, 1989.
AYES: Commissioners Bosch, Hart, Scott
NOES: None
ABSENT: Commissioners Greek, Master MOTION CARRIED
Commissioner Bosch thanked the applicant for their
cooperation in coming back with the information the Planning
Commission requested.
IN RE: NEW HEARINGS
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 1792-89 - SAM DOUKAS:
Proposed Conditional Use Permit application to allow the
expansion of a fast food restaurant containing a drive-up
window, the modification of the hours of operation, and a
reduction in required parking. Subject property is located
at the northwest corner of Main Street and Culver Avenue,
addressed 388 South Main Street.
NOTE: This project is categorically exempt from the
provisions of the California Environmental Quality
Act (CEQA) per CEQA Guidelines Section 15301.
Ms. Wolff pointed out there were three requests, one of
which could be acted upon independently of the other two.
One is the request to modify a condition that was placed on
the original Conditional Use Permit that was issued in 1978;
that is, to modify and extend the hours of operation. The
other two requests are tied together in that the second
request is to expand the restaurant building and the third
is requesting approval of a reduction of required parking.
Three separate actions could be taken.
Commissioner Scott said one of the conditions was subject to
approval for written authorization to be achieved from the
four adjoining property owners who agree on the reduction of
parking. It seems like we're putting the cart before the
horse. The property owner should have agreed prior to
submitting the request for the reduction, which was his
personal opinion.
The public hearing was opened.
Applicant
Marshall Wilkinson, 17842 Mitchell, Irvine, represented the
applicant. Two of the applicant's partners were also
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present. He addressed Commissioner Scott's concern first.
They were trying to fast track the process. They have
notified the other owners. The property is controlled by a
set of CC&R's. The other owners must be notified and
approvals obtained. At this point in time, they have
received approvals from three of the property owners, unable
to reach one (who is in Taipei ), and have received a
negative reaction from one.
Chairman Bosch asked about the reduction in parking. There
is an indication the center is fairly well utilized. There
are obviously different hours of peak usage, but there is
some heavy parking demand in the center and they are
requesting to increase the demand for parking and reducing
the number of parking spaces.
Mr. Wilkinson said that was correct. Their position is that
this particular piece of property provides the greatest
number of parking spaces within that center. Over the years
while the center has operated, other tenants have come and
gone. The make up of the center has changed somewhat. As
it was originally conceived, the property was properly
parked. They now have quite a few food uses in the center.
The proposal is that Duke's Restaurant will occupy the
property. This occupancy will significantly increase the
patronage of the restaurant without increasing the
utilization (during the peak hours) of parking. They expect
a significant increase of walk-in traffic. They used 500
square feet as their expected addition. The actual addition
will probably be closer to 370 square feet.
The public hearing was closed.
Commissioner Hart discussed the hours of operation. He felt
they should separate the issues. He does not have a problem
with the hours. He concurred that opening up the operating
hours would not harm the neighborhood. His concern is with
the parking on Main Street. He couldn't concur with
increasing the size and reducing the parking lot.
Commissioner Scott said the complex at the northwest corner
of Main and LaVeta has a security guard trying to control
the parking. The reduction of parking is a problem.
Moved by Commissioner Hart, seconded by Commissioner Scott,
that the Planning Commission approve a portion of
Conditional Use Permit 1792-89 to increase the operating
hours to 6:00 a.m. - 11:00 p.m. , seven days a week, but deny
the addition to the structure because of the
inappropriateness of the parking .reduction, and deny the
request for the parking reduction.
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AYES: Commissioners Bosch, Hart, Scott
NOES: None
ABSENT: Commissioners Greek, Master MOTION CARRIED
Ms. Wolff informed the applicant the action of the Planning
Commission was final unless appealed. There is a 15 day
appeal period and the City Council will make the final
determination.
IN RE: NEW HEARINGS
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 1793-89 - MAYNARD C. MUELLER:
Proposed Conditional Use Permit application to allow an
accessory second unit in the R-1-6 zone. Subject property
is located on the north side of Century Drive between
Jameson Street and Lincoln Street, addressed 1409 East
Century Drive.
NOTE: This project is categorically exempt from the
provisions of the California Environmental Quality
Act (CEQA) per CEQA Guidelines Section 15303.
A staff report was not presented and the public hearing was
opened.
Applicant
Maynard Mueller, owner, 1409 East Century Drive, believes he
is in compliance with all codes. There is a good security
system set up and it has been checked out.
Commissioner Hart asked if he were familiar with the
requirement that if approved, the owner must live on the
premises.
Mr. Mueller was aware of that requirement.
Chairman Bosch asked a f ew questions regarding the site
plan. The stairway goes up in opposite directions.
Mr. Mueller said it faces the back of the property. There
are security lights and it is visible from the street. They
would rise from the back towards the front of the property.
Chairman Bosch said there were also a couple of minor
dimensional discrepancies. A one foot planter on the
easterly side of the site was not dimensioned. He assumed
that's where the dimension is to get the width. (Correct.)
And there's a six inch discrepancy north to south that
doesn't appear to impact setbacks, but he wanted to let Mr.
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Mueller know that if the Commission desires to approve the
application, he still has some homework to do to make the
plan work. (The applicant understood that.)
The public hearing was closed.
Moved by Commissioner Scott, seconded by Commissioner Hart,
that the Planning Commission recommend the City Council
approve Conditional Use Permit 1793-89 subject to the
conditions listed in the staff report.
AYES: Commissioners Bosch, Hart, Scott
NOES: None
ABSENT: Commissioners Greek, Master MOTION CARRIED
IN RE: MISCELLANEOUS ITEM
NEGATIVE DECLARATION 1319 - CITY OF ORANGE PUBLIC WORKS
DEPARTMENT:
An environmental study of a proposed City of Orange Public
Works project consisting of the widening of the Meats Avenue
bridge overcrossing of the Costa Mesa (55) Freeway.
A staff report was not presented.
Mr. Johnson stated this was the first of several overpass
widening projects the City is proposing. Traffic volumes
dictate a four lane facility and there is now two lanes.
They propose to work within the right-of-way they now have.
The widening would be done on the north side of the roadway.
It will basically be built to the same grade; just an
extension to the north and an additional two lanes of
roadway plus a pedestrian walkway. The grades will be
extended.
Chairman Bosch said the striping east of it has helped from
older striping years ago, but still fairly a loose
situation. Is there a consideration of widening the painted
median or the curb bicycle lanes to avoid making two lanes
out of one in both directions?
Mr. Johnson said he was not real close to the striping or
channelization. Mr. Glass has been involved in reviewing
the project. It will probably be several years before the
bridge is widened.
Chairman Bosch would appreciate the matter being looked
into. It's typically a race if heading eastbound to see if
you're passed on the right side before getting to Santiago
without regard to the speed limit. He was also interested
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in the unusual throat condition at the entrance to Target on
the north side off the west end of the embankment. That
will be narrower after the widening. Will there be some
reconfiguration of the trailer park access?
Mr. Johnson said that access point into the mobile home park
will not be changed much. It may be even closer to the
intersection. There will have to be another solution found,
particularly if the mobile home park develops to a higher
use at some time in the future.
Chairman Bosch requested the Traffic Division look into more
aggressive signage and striping program in a multiple exit
condition.
Moved by Commissioner Hart, seconded by Commissioner Scott,
that the Planning Commission accept the findings of the
Environmental Review Board to file Negative Declaration
1319.
AYES: Commissioners Bosch, Hart, Scott
NOES: None
ABSENT: Commissioners Greek, Master
IN RE: OTHER ITEMS
MOTION CARRIED
Commissioner Scott received two letters from a resident
questioning lack of actions from the Planning Commission.
Several Commissioners have responded, but he suggested a
letter be written for the signature of the Chairman
explaining what authority the Planning Commission has.
Commissioner Hart amended the suggestion and thought the
Chairman should answer the letter because he has a way with
words.
Chairman Bosch accepted to write the letter on behalf of the
Commission and looked to staff to refresh his memory as to
what priorities and actions staff is currently taking with
regard to the East Chapman corridor.
IN RE: ADJOURNMENT
Moved by Commissioner Hart, seconded by Commissioner Scott,
that the Planning Commission adjourn to a study session at
5:00 p.m. on November 13, 1989 in the Weimer Room to discuss
the medical building on East Chapman at Yorba (Yorba Park
Medical Group) .
AYES: Commissioners Bosch, Hart, Scott
NOES: None
ABSENT: Commissioners Greek, Master MOTION CARRIED
The meeting adjourned at 7:40 p.m.
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