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City of Orange
Orange, California
PLANNING COMMISSION
MINUTES
December 1, 1986
Monday - 7:30 p.m.
The regular meeting of the .City of Orange Planning Commission was called to order
by Chairman Greek at 7:30 p.in.
PRESENT: Commissioners Greek, Hart, Master, Scott
ABSENT: None
STAFF
PRESENT: Jack McGee, Associate Planner and Acting Commission Secretary;
Ed Gala, Assistant Planner;
Gene Minshew, Assistant City Attorney;
Gary Johnson, City Engineer; and
Sue Devlin, Recording Secretary
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
IN RE: MINUTES OF NOVEMBER 17, 1986
Moved by Commissioner Master, seconded by Commissioner Scott, that the
Minutes of November 17, 1986, be approved as recorded.
AYES: Commissioners Greek, Hart, Master, Scott
NOES: None MOTION CARRIED
IN RE: NEW HEARINGS
ZONE CHANGE 1063, CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 1553, VARIANCE 1804 - DOPP
AND CURL DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION:
Request for a change of zone from RD-6 and RM-7 to RD-6 P (Residential
Duplex/Parking Overlay) (.for a portion of the site), a conditional use
permit to allow increased building height, and a variance to allow reduced
setbacks for a 22,725 square foot parcel located on the southwest
corner of Chapman Avenue and Citrus Street.
NOTE: Negative Declaration 1105 has been prepared for this project.
Mr. McGee presented the staff report. The request is to allow the develop-
ment of a 21Z story medical office structure. A site plan was referred to
during the presentation, illustrating the proposal. A structure with two
office levels above parking is what is proposed. The parking will be partially
depressed below grade, with parking to the rear. The parking would be
on the currently residentially zoned property. The need for the zone change
is to allow a parking overlay to permit that parking on that piece of
property. The building, as proposed, is approximately 38 feet tall, which
includes some equipment enclosures, skylights, etc. The ordinance
permits structures of 30 feet or two story maximum in height within 120
feet of a residential zone. Therefore, it does exceed the maximum height
at that location by about eight feet. The variance requests are for
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setbacks along Citrus Street. The parking and structure of the parking
encroaches within the required ten foot setback approximately 2~ feet.
The residential parking overlay portion of the property requires. a 15
foot setback. This proposal indicates a 7~ foot setback landscaped --
a reduction from what is required by ordinance. Staff is recommending
approval on all of the applications. The reasons for those recommendations
and conditions of approval are listed as follows:
Zone Change:.
1. That the Parking Overlay designation applied to the subject property
will maintain compatibility with surrounding residential development.
2. That the proposed zoning is consistent with the purpose and intent
of the Land Use Element of the General Plan.
3. That the proposed zoning will not allow commercial development within
close proximity to residential land uses.
Variance:
1. That because of the subject property's configuration, strict appli-
cation of the zoning ordinance will significantly restrict the
development opportunities of the subject property and deprive said
property of privileges enjoyed by other properties in the vicinity
and under identical zone classification.
2. That granting of the variances will not reduce property values or
cause general deterioration of the adjacent residential and commercial
parcels.
Conditional Use Permit:
1. The proposal is consistent with the surrounding land use and zoning.
The requested building height is similar to other development in the
area.
2. The proposal will not cause deterioration of surrounding land uses or
create special problems for the area.
Commissioner Master questioned the zone change from R-D~6 and R-M-7 to
RD-6P (Residential Duplex Parking Overlay), does that preclude anything
else taking place other than by a zone change?
Mr. McGee explained with the RD=6P zone designation in place, it would
allow all of the uses within a residential duplex zone residential uses
and parking in conjunction with an adjacent commercial use parking only.
The public hearing was opened.
Jack Selman, Architects Orange, 144 N. Orange Street, applicant for the
project, realizes the Planning Commission is not fond of granting variances
'~ "just because" and there should be good reasons for it. One reason for
the variance would be size and topography of the property. This property
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is very narrow along the Chapman frontage and it has an unusual. condition
in that there is a 13 foot curb to property line city right-of-way. Other
property surrounding the project are more like 10 feet. The 7~ foot that
is proposed, in addition to the 13 feet, will have the same sidewalk as
everywhere else. The question.- is this property being deprived of the
privileges enjoyed by others - the answer is definitely yes. The property
across the street (Higgins) is zero, two or three blocks up is zero --
probably 50% from Main to the Circle are zero; some five feet setbacks.
They will also be meeting the landscape requirement. The height variance
(two story 30 foot height limit) -- many buildings along the street go from
32 to 36 feet. Generally, a 36 - 38 foot building would be a two story
building with a peak roof. This building is 2~ stories, but has a flat
roof. The proposal is 128 feet away from the rear property line. The
residential zone is midway through the property. It will have 128 feet
of buffer area between the building and the residential structure. The
parking overlay is actually in the residential zone. Pictures of the. property
were given to the Commission, showing the setbacks, property in the
area, and parking. The project is going to help that area. It is a
medical use and will be a high quality building. The landscaping will
also add and help that area as it redevelops.
Those speaking in favor of the project:
Craig Curl, 1717 S. St. College, Anaheim, feels this is an excellent
product and will enhance the beauty and character of the West Chapman area.
They have tried to buffer the residential units with the parking facility
in the rear of the building, A large Magnolia tree that exists now will
remain with landscaping surrounding it.
Jeff Crussell, 1818 W. Chapman, Suite B, owns a piece of property south
of the project at 176 South Citrus. The existing property is a menace
to the neighborhood and.. the parking area is a haven for abandoned parked
cars in the neighborhood. Ts very concerned about the area and is in
favor of the proposed variances, but has a couple of problems with. the
overall location of the building on its local site. The building needs
to be shifted over six inches to afoot to the extreme east to achieve
some type of buffering between the property line and the building.
Those speaking in opposition of the project:
Jim Fasbender, 1020 West Chapman, property owner on West Chapman located
immediately west of the proposed project. Planning Commissioners received
his letter in the mail. He summarized and read his reasons the zone change,
variance and conditional use permit should be denied-believing it would
be detrimental to his property.
Refugio Sanchez, 131 North Citrus, concerned about the parking problems
in the area.
Mr. Selman added a couple of comments. The building is being developed for
a group of doctors; it's not a speculative building. There is a need
for it and there is very little property available to do this. There are
at least 12 other buildings within a 15 block area. having zero setbacks.
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Five cars per 1,000 square feet is being allowed for the parking, which
is a medical requirement which is higher than the normal four. Doctors
going into the building do rotate their shifts and they were concerned
about providing five because they don't believe they will need five.
They will be there on alternate days. Ample parking is provided. The
area immediately adjacent to the residential is going to be better off
than now.
Commissioner Hart stated the request for a variance must be accompanied
by a hardship and wanted to know Mr, Selman's reason..
Mr. Selman understood a variance should be granted when the strict appli-
cation of the zoning ordinance deprives the property of .privileges enjoyed
by other properties in the vicinity. They would be forced to do something
no one else. is being made to do. There will be an overall 25 foot setback.
A unique situation exists on the property.
Commissioner Hart stated those buildings that were mentioned were of
non-conforming uses.
Mr. Selman pointed out variances were granted along Chapman Avenue for
various setback issues.
Chairman Greek asked what would happen if the building were moved back
72 feet to get the required front yard setback?
Mr. Selman said they were not asking for a setback on Chapman. They are
providing the required 10 feet. The 10 foot setback requirement along
Chapman is being complied with. They are dedicating an additional two
feet of street right away.
Mr. McGee clarified that the front yard is within the RD-6-P zone (existing
residential lot). The only variances requested are for the setbacks
on Citrus.
The public hearing was closed.
Chairman Greek wanted to know the status of the motorcycle store side yard.
Commissioner Hart said that building caused a lot of problems. The
Commission turned that down twice and the Council overruled the Commission.
Basically it was the same situation.
Moved by Commissioner Master, seconded by Commissioner Scott, that the
Planning Commission recommend to the City Council that they accept the
findings of the Environmental Review Board to file Negative Declaration
1105.
AYES: Commissioners Greek, Hart, Master, Scott
NOES: None MOTION CARRIED
The. Commission discussed their concerns about the variance, width of the.
building, setbacks and parking. The problem centers around the 10 foot
sideyard setback that was established by law. The Commission continually
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asked to change or grant variances for things developed by the developer.
Moved by Commissioner Master, seconded by Commissioner Hart, that the
Planning Commission deny Variance 1804 without prejudice.
AYES: Commissioners Greek, Hart, Master, Scott
NOES: None MOTION CARRIED
Chairman Greek asked if the variance were denied and the zone change and
conditional use permit were approved, would that be a sign to the
applicant or what?
Mr. McGee said that indicated the Commission would permit a use if it met
all of the other requirements other than what the conditional use permit
is approving - the height of the building.
Commissioner Hart asked the applicant to address the Commission.
Mr. Selman stated they have-done many site plans on the property because
it is small. Parking configuration needed to be taken into consideration.
Discussion ensued on parking ratios, compact spaces, standard car parking
spaces and Mr. Selman stated 18 and 25 would work.
Mr. McGee explained the standard car parking stall size is 9 x 20. Standard
.parking spaces require a 25 foot back out turn radius. Compact size is
8 x 16 with a 21 foot back out space. Those stall sizes are uniform
regardless of where they are located.
Moved by Commissioner Master, seconded by Commissioner Scott, that the
Planning Commission deny Zone Change 1063 and Conditional Use Permit 1553
without prejudice.
AYES: Commissioners-Greek, Hart, Master, Scott
NOES: None MOTION CARRIED
Commissioner Hart pointed out to the. developer it's a technical vote
because of the fact that without the building the .zone change would not
be acceptable. Hopes the developer can work on a'.p.lan that .will fit the
lot.
Commissioner Scott concurs; it would be a nice development and a tremendous
addition to West Chapman.
Mr. P4cGee said this was a final action unless appealed to the City Council.
Commissioner Greek wanted to know what condition Item ~~10 was under the
conditional use permit.
Mr. McGee said that condition addresses a future reciprocal access. Staff
~ feels it would be beneficial to both properties to provide some tie between
the two. The other property may need access out through the rear.
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N RE: NEW HEARINGS
ORDINANCE AMENDMENT 6-86:
Proposed amendment to the City's Zoning Ordinance changing the titles
of the multiple family residential zones from RD, RM, and RMM to R-2,
R-3, and R-4; and amending the procedure for approval of additional
height in specified situations within the duplex zones.
NOTE: Negative Declaration 1106 has been prepared for this project.
As no one was opposed to this item, a staff report was not presented.
Moved by Commissioner Hart, seconded by Commissioner Scott, that the
Planning Commission recommend to the City Council to accept the findings
of the Environmental Review Board to file Negative Declaration 1106.
AYES: Commissioners Greek, Hart, Master, Scott
NOES: None MOTION CARRIED
Moved by Commissioner Hart, seconded by Commissioner Masten, that the
Planning Commission recommend to the City Council to approve Ordinance
Amendment 6-86 for the reasons listed.
AYES: Commissioners Greek, Hart, Master, Scott
NOES: None PZOTION CARRIED
IN RE: MISCELLANEOUS
TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP 86-268 - SUUTHRIDGE DEVELOPMENT:
Proposed subdivision of 240+ acres located east of Meats Avenue, west of
future Loma Street and adjacent to the Southern California Edison easement,
into two parcels.
Mr. Johnson explained the intent of the parcel map submittal is to split
the parcel into two parcels. This parcel overlays on the approved Tentative
Tract 12082. The property owner is proposing to split off as a phasing
the westerly half, which in turn will be sold to another developer. Parcel
4~1 is basically a single family residential units that will be developed
first. Staff has asked that all applicable conditions of the tract follow
the proposed split sa that "piecemealing" of the land will not be a factor.
Commissioner Hart asked if Phase 2 would be developed first.
Bob Mickelson, 328 N. Glassell, stated that all conditions of the tentative
tract are carried over to the parcel map. One of the main conditions on
that tentative tract was the first unit be on the west end. Parcel l will
be developed first. Parcel 2 could not be developed until the. connection
is made to Loma and down to Serrano. The buyers of Parcel 1 are well aware
of all the conditions.
Mr. Johnson interjected the condition Mr. Mickelson was speaking of is
Condition 4~5: That the first phase of development be Lots 1-53 and 57-104,
including that portion of Via Escolla connecting Street "A" and Meats
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`~ Avenue. Prior to the building permits being issued on the second 500
units, Via Escolla shall be constructed to two lanes width minimum
from Meats Avenue to Loma Street, and Loma Street/Imperial Highway shall
be constructed two lanes minimum width providing access to the arterial
highway system in the City of Orange.
Commissioner Hart asked what happens to the missing link between the
City of Orange and the end of Tmperial?
Mr, Johnson stated they cannot develop those second five hundred units
until that arterial .facility is opened. It states specifically that
it shall be constructed two lanes minimum width providing access to the
arterial highway system in the City of Orange, They cannot connect it
to Anaheim,
Mr. Mickelson added there is no intent to circumvent that condition in
any way. The condition is locked in.
Commissioner Master asked if the City Attorney had any reservations or
concerns regarding the fulfillment of all the conditions.
Mr. Minshew stated they have no problems with this. They are reasonably
assured the City is protected on this phasing.
Moved by Commissioner Scott, seconded by Commissioner Master, that the
Planning Commission approve the split of a portion of Tentative Tract
12082 as presented by staff subject to the-conditions filed on the
previous Tentative Parcel Map 86-268 dated November 3, 1986. Development
of either parcel shall be governed according to the approved conditions
of Tentative Tract 12082 and Parcel Map 83-765.
AYES: Commissioners Greek, Hart, Master, Scott
NOES: None MOTION CARRIED
IN RE: MISCELLANEOUS
EAST ORANGE 7500 ACRE GENERAL PLAN STUDY:
Civil Engineering and Geotechnical Consultant selection.
Vern Jones, Senior Project Planner, Advanced Planning, presented the
staff report. The Technical Advisory Committee (TAC) for the East
Orange 7500 Acre General Plan Study has completed its evaluation of
the civil engineering and geotechnical consultants, and is recommending
this evening approval of Greiner Engineering and GeoSoils, Inc. as
the consultants. TAC interviewed five civil engineering firms and four
geotechnical firms in its evaluation process. Overall, TAC felt that
Greiner Engineering and GeoSoils presented the best combination of
experience and expertise in hillside grading and large scale land
development that is desirable for this large project area.
Commissioner Scott stated in reviewing the engineering services did not
see any of the qualifications for the principals that were going to
participate in this. Rates were not covered either. Normally it's
included in the proposal.
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Mr. Johnson stated there were two volumes to the Greiner proposal; one
was a format set-up for the work items, and another was a booklet of
the principals in the company. Possibly the work item proposal was the
one Commissioner Scott received instead of the qualification proposal.
Commissioner Scott asked Mr. Johnson, for the record,could hesverfy that the
people are all licensed as required and do have the necessary education
background?
Mr. Johnson said yes they are and the principal that will be working
on this, Mr. Anderson, has had similar project experience on specific and
general plan designation/projects.
Commissioner Scott offered a suggestion; if approved, to include the
qualifications in the recommendation.
Moved by Commissioner Scott, seconded by .Commissioner Master, that the
Planning Commission recommend to .the City Council approval of Greiner
Engineering and GeoSoils, Inc. for the 7500 acre East Orange General
Plan Study subject to that Volume 2 with the qualifications for the
civil engineering firm be included with this recommendation.
AYES: Commissioners Greek, Hart, Master, Scott
NOES: None MOTION CARRIED
`IN RE: OTHER ITEMS
1. Two future study sessions: December 3 and 15, 1986.
2. Letter from Nexus: Chairman Greek was excused due to a potential
conflict of interest. This letter is regarding an application they
have filed with Planning. Application is for a tentative parcel
map and a conditional use permit. They are desiring to split one
of the existing lots within their subdivision on Garden Grove Boulevard
and The City Drive. In doing that split, they are creating a lot
without direct frontage on a public street. Staff has set that
item for a public hearing by Planning Commission on January 5, 1987.
Normally this item could be heard by the Zoning Administrator; however,
based on the fact that so many other previous items for this same
development have been heard by the Planning Commission, it is staff's
policy and procedure to schedule all of them to consolidate the
review responsibilities so we don't get two different review authorities
reviewing the same project. It's a very technical consideration.
Nexus is asking that the Planning Commission grant him consent to allow
the Zoning Administrator to conduct the public hearing rather than the
Planning Commission.
Commissioner Master asked what the conditions were to insure ingress/
egress?
„~* Mr. McGee said those conditions would have to be created and made a
part of the approval. Along with the creation of the new lot, there
is an additional building for an insurance company being created.
There is a parking structure being added and there are two small
storage units being added, which we have-not seen.
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Mr. Minshew did not understand the reason why the developer requested
a change in procedure.
Mr. McGee believes the developer is attempting to get a determination
before the end of the year because of the new tax laws going into
effect.
Commissioner Master asked if this is consistent with what was done
before?
The Commission would like the Zoning Administrator to conduct the
public hearing on the lot split, the conditional use permit for that
lot split, but the Commission would like to see any modification to
the site plan.
Mr. McGee stated the building is not a discretionary item. Anyone
could come in and get a permit for a building. It's the conditional
use permit that is the only discretionary handle on modifying the
site plan.
This item is scheduled for a January 5 Planning Commission Meeting
and the earliest Zoning Administrator hearing would be December 18.
Moved by Commissioner Hart, seconded by Commissioner Scott, that the
Planning Commission allow the Zoning Administrator to act on the
conditional use permit as it pertains to access to the lot, but all
site plans be referred to the Planning. Commission for action.
AYES: Commissioners Hart, Master, Scott
NOES: None
ABSENT:Chairman Greek MOTION CARRIED
Mr. McGee said staff will notify Nexus of this decision.
Chairman Greek returned to the meeting.
3. Nominations for Chairman and Vice-Chairman:
Moved by Commissioner Hart, seconded by Commissioner Master, that the
Planning Commission nominate Don Greek as Chairman for the remainder
of the year.
AYES: Commissioners Greek, Hart, Master, Scott
NOES: None MOTION CARRIED
Moved by Commissioner Hart,, seconded by Commissioner Master, that the
Planning Commission nominate Don Scott as Vice-Chairman for the
remainder of the year.
AYES: Commissioners Greek, Hart, Master, Scott
NOES: None MOTION CARRIED
TN RE: ADJOURNMENT
The meeting was adjourned at 9:00 p~m. to reconvene at 4:30. p.m. on
December 3, 1986, for a study session.
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