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HomeMy WebLinkAbout12/2/1985 - Minutes PCO i ~:: 0 City of Orange Orange, California PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES December 2,'1985 Monday, 7:30 p.m. The regular meeting of the City of Orange Planning Commission was called to order by Chairman Master at 7:30 p.m. PRESENT: Commissioners Master, Greek, Hart, Scott ABSENT: Commissioner Mason STAFF John Lane, Administrator of Current Planning and Commission Secre= PRESENT: tary; Jim Reichert, Associate Planner; Gene Minshew, Assistant City Attorney; Bob von Schimmelmann, Senior Civil Engineer; and Toba V. Wheeler, Recording Secretary. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE IN RE: MINUTES OF NOVEMBER 18, 1985 Moved by Commissioner Hart, seconded by Commissioner Greek, that the minutes of November 18, 1985, be approved as recorded. AYES: Commissioners Master, Greek, Hart, Scott NOES: None ABSENT: Commissioner Mason MOTION CARRIED IN RE: ITEMS TO BE CONTINUED OR WITHDRAWN Mr. Lane said the applicant had requested a continuance for Condi- tional Use Permit 1468.. AYES: NOES: ABSENT: AYES: NOES: ABSENT: Moved by Commissioner Hart, seconded by Commissioner Greek, that Conditional Use Permit 1468 be continued to the meeting of Janu- ary 201986. Commissioners Master, Greek, Hart, Scott None Commissioner Mason 'MOTION CARRIED Mr. Lane said the applicant had requested a continuance for Condi- tional Use Permit 1456. Moved by Commissioner Scott, seconded by Commissioner Greek, that Conditional Use Permit 1456 be continued to the meeting of Decem- ber 16, 1985. Commissioners Master, Greek, Hart, Scott None Commissioner Mason MOTION CARRIED O Planning Commission Minutes December 2, 1985 Page Two IN RE: NEW HEARINGS CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 1478, VARIANCE 1781, TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP 85-402 - CASAS DEL RIO Proposed three-story, 40-unit residential complex for independent- living, physically-disabled persons on a 34,0'93-square foot parcel to be created from a larger 5.17-acre parcel on Rehabilitation In- stitute of Orange property at the southeast corner of Tustin Street and LaVeta Avenue. NOTE: Negative Declaration 1033 has been prepared for this project. Mr. Lane made the presentation in accordance with the Staff Report and said Staff recommends. approval subject to the conditions in its report. Commissioner Greek asked for the existing parking require- ment, if the loss of some parking will occar and,-if so,-whether or not it will be made up somewhere else, Mr. Lane said he doesn't fiave an answer to that question. He said the applicant indicated that the parking facilities will have joint use and will not have a detri- mental effect on the present operation. Chairman Master opened the public hearing. Eugene Tutt,-T5001 Nissan Road, Tustin, a member of the Board of Directors. of Casas del RI0 the applicant,-said the conditions are acceptable and he wi l answer any questions from the Commission, Commissioner Greek questioned the parking facilities. Mr, Tutt said the existing facility consists of .about 60-,000 square feet but he isn't sure of the number of .spaces, He said they are not sure what to do about parking because they~are not sure~who their tenants will be and how many will have vehicles. He said their research indicated that one space for every two housing units would be appropriate. He said they feel the parking facilties can be shared adequately by the Rehabilitation Institute Center and the occupants of the residential facility proposed to be built,-and promised that if this results in a crowded condition the applicant wi:11 construct 40 to 50 additional parking spaces in a presently unused area between the existing parking area and LaVeta.. Commissioner Hart said he had trouble with a commitment like that and although he doesn`t want to delay the application,=he feels more assurance is necessary than just the fact that if it i.s found that the parking is needed the applicant will put it in. Mr. Tutt said he could understand that but because of the nature of this devel- opment and lack of experience in knowing what will be needed, it was difficult to anticipate the parking requirement. He pointed out that the fleet of vans at the Rehabilitation Institute would also serve the residents of the proposed project, and that public transporta- tion was easily accessible. He said the project would be built with very limited funds and said the applicant would be willing to stipulate that in the event there is a shortage of parking he would raise the money to increase the parking. He said if the Commission Planning Commission Minutes December 2, 1985 Page Three wanted to add a condition to that effect,-he would agree to it, albeit reluctantly. He said that however he would hope the Commission would understnad the financial constraints under which they are operating as well as their good faith in saying that if parking becomes a problem they will expand it. Commissioner Hart said he would feel more comfortable with the addition of a condition stating that the additional parking be put in when necessary. Chairman Master declared the public hearing closed. Moved by Commissioner Hart, seconded by Commissioner Scott, that the Planning Commission accept the findings of the Environmental Review Board to file Negative Declaration 1033. AYES: Commissioners Master, Greek, Hart, Scott NOES: None ABSENTS Commissioner Mason MOTION CARRIED Moved by Commissioner Hart, seconded by Commissioner Scott, that the Planning Commission approve Tentative Parcel Map 85-402, subject to the three conditions in the Staff Report. AYES: Commissioners Master, Greek, Hart, Scott NOES:- None ABSENT: Commissioner Mason MOTION CARRIED Moved by Commissioner Greek, seconded by Commissioner Hart, that the Planning Commission approve Conditional Use Permit 1478 subject to the 15 conditions in the Staff Report, with the 15th condition being revised to read "Development shall be in accordance with the site plan as approved by the Planning Commission. Site Plan shall be revised to provide a minimum of 73 paved parking spaces in the area north of the existing parking lot on parcel #2, AYES:. Commissioners Master, Greek, Hart, Scott NOES : None ABSENT: Commissioner Mason MOTION CARRIED Moved by Commissioner Greek,. seconded by Commissioner Hart.,-that the Planning Commission approve Variance 1781 with the deletion of Condition #1 but subject to Condition #2. AYES: Commissioners Master, Greek, Hart, Scott NOES: None ABSENT: Commissioner Mason MOTION CARRIED IN RE: OTHER BUSINESS Mr. Lane referenced his memorandum of November 27 to the Planning Commission regarding the mini-storage facility on south Flower Planning Commission Minutes December 2, 1985 Page Four Street concerning a letter from Robert D. Mickelson Planning Consultants, Inc., to the City Council and the Planning Commission, requesting approval of a revised site plan for Conditional Use Permit 1404 wherein Buildings #8 and #9 would be combined into one building. Commissioner Greek excused himself because of conflict of interest. Moved by Commissioner Hart, seconded by Commissioner Scott, that the Planning Commission accept the revised plan as being. essentially in accordance with its original approval, and that this action be recommended to the City Council. AYES: Commissioners Master, Hart, Scott NOES: None ABSENT:. Commissioners Greek, Mason MOTION CARRIED Chairman. Master asked regarding the status of the alley behind the proposed Tru Valu Inn, Mr. Lane said he understood it was the feeling of both the City Engineer and the Traffic Engineer that the alley should not be abandoned and that the flow of the traffic should be reversed. He said the new Tru Valu proposal does not take any access from the alley and the alley does provide rear access to the lawyers' offices which are north of the Tru Valu property. He said that to date the formal written report on this al1ey,~ which was promised to the Planning Commission,-has not been received. Chairman Master said that as a result of the Commission's discussions on form and content he has asked for a meeting between Staff and a Commission committee consisting of Vice Chairman Mason and Comm,i~s- sioner Hart on December 5 at 8:00 a.m. Mr. Lane said representatives of St, Joseph`s Hospital are willing to brief the Planning Commission on the status of their planning and operations,. A study session for this item was set for Monday, December 9, at 5:00 p.m., if .that is agreeable to the St. Joseph people. Chairman Master said there will probably be a committee formed, with representation from the Planning Commission, to discuss circulation, traffic,-ingreSSJegress,~etc.,-for the West Chapman redevelopment area. Mr. Lane said that in connection with the two buildings at Lawson ~~,~;~ ~ .. Way and Town & Country: he received a call indicating that. the elevator housing on the top of the building is going to have to be three feet higher than what was originally approved for the 16-story building. He said Staff doesn`t see any problem with this. After some discussion, it was agreed that there would be no problem with the addition of three feet. Commissioner Greek abstained from the ® discussion due to conflict of interest. •~ Planning Commission Minutes ` December 2, 1985 Page Five IN RE: ADJOURNMENT The meeting was adjourned at 8:30 p.m., to reconvene at a regular meeting on December 16, 1985, at the Civic Center Council Chambers, 300 East Chapman Avenue, Orange, California.