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MINUTES
City of Orange
Orange, California
December 21, 1981
Monday, 7:30 p.m.
The regular meeting of the Orange City Planning Commission was called to order
by Chairman Mickelson at 7:30 p.m.
PRESENT: Commissioners Mickelson, Coontz, Hart, Vasquez
ABSENT: Commissioner Master
STAFF Jere P. Murphy, Administrator of Current Planning and Commission
PRESENT: Secretary; Norvin Lanz, Associate Planner; Gene Minshew, Assistant
City Attorney; Gary Johnson, City Engineer; Stan Soo-Hoo,
Associate Planner; and Doris Ofsthun, Recording Secretary.
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
IN RE: APPROVAL OF MINUTES OF DECEMBER 7, 1981
Commissioner Coontz asked for a correction to paragraph 6 of
page 12, stating: "However, the plan must be looked at in light
of its needs." She asked that the following be inserted at this
point in the paragraph: "The East Orange Plan did not include a
circulation plan and its effect on land use. Crawford Canyon
extension was referred to, but negatively, as being a regional
problem to be solved regionally."
Moved by Commissioner Hart, seconded by Commissioner Coontz, to
approve the minutes of December 7, 1981, as corrected.
AYES: Commissioners Nickelson, Coontz, Hart, Vasquez
NOES: Commissioners none
ABSENT: Commissioner Master MOTION CARRIED
IN RE: NEW HEARINGS:
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 1171, VARIANCE 1671 - STP,TE FARM
INSURANCE COMPANY c/o CASTILLO:
Request to allow construction of a one-story office structure and
damage inspection station for driveable vehicles on a site of less
than 5 acres in the M-2 District at the southeast corner of Taft
Avenue and Case Street. (Note: Negative Declaration 743 has been
prepared in lieu of an Environmental Impact Report.)
Norvin Lanz presented this application to the Commission, stating
that this is a request to permit the construction of a one-story
office structure and property damage inspection station for driveable
vehicles in the M-2 zone. The applicant is requesting approval of
a variance to build on less than a 5 acre site.
Mr. Lanz explained that this property contains 2.01 acres of land
located at the southeast corner of the intersection of Taft Avenue
and Case Street. The property has approximately 339 feet of frontage
on Taft Avenue and approximately 260 feet of frontage on Case Street.
It is presently a vacant parcel of land in the P1-2 (Industrial)
District.
He pointed out that the applicant requests approval of Conditional
Use Permit 1171 in order to construct a one-story office building
with a 3 bay dri ve-through inspecti on faci 1 i ty i n an i ndustrial zone,
and Variance 1671 in order to construct the office building on less
than five contiguous acres.
,~ Mr. Lanz further pointed out to the Commission that the Planning
Commission, on a number of occasions, has permitted office-professional
bui 1 di ngs to be cons tructed on parcel s of 1 ess than 5 contiguous acres
in the M-1 and M-2 (Industrial) zones. He explained that Taft Avenue
serves as a "window street" to the industrial area and that the site
is adjacent to uns~creened storage yards on the east and south which
are quite visible from Taft Avenue.
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December 21 , 1981
Page Two
AYES
NOES:
ABSENT:
AYES
NOES:
ABSENT:
Mr. Lanz said that the Staff has reviewed this proposal and found that
it was technically acceptable, explaining that there will be 92
parking spaces in this project, which is twice the amount that the
code requires .
Staff recommends. that the Planning Commission accept the findings
of the Environmental Review Board to file Negative Declaration 743.
Staff recommends approval of Conditional Use Permit 1171 and
Vari ance 1671 for five reasons
1. That similar office uses have been granted on arterial
streets in the industrial zone.
2. That the applicant's proposal is compatible with the
existing zoning and uses.
3. That development and finished landscaping required on
this site will screen surrounding non-aesthetic
industrial uses as viewed from Taft Avenue.
4. That the applicant's proposal meets all the development
requirements as specified by the Ci ty of Orange.
5. That the proposal is consistent with the intent of the
City of Orange General Plan.
Staff recommends approval of Conditional Use Permit 1171 and
Vari ance 1671 with the 17 conditions 1 i sted i n the Staff Report.
Commissioner Mickelson opened the public hearing.
Dorian Fortney, representing State Farm Insurance Company,
4653 S, Lake Shore Drive, Tempe, Arizona, addressed the Commission
in favor of this application. He stated that he had nothing to
add to the Staff's presentation and that State Farm accepted the
conditions set forth in the Staff Report,
There being no one to speak for or against this application, the
Chairman cl osed the public hearing .
Moved by Commissioner Hart, seconded by Commissioner Vasquez, to
accept the findings of the Environmental Review Board to file
Negative Declaration 743.
Commissioners Mickelson, Coontz, Hart, Vasquez
Commissioners none
Commissioner h1as ter
MOTION CARRIED
Proved by Commissioner Coontz, seconded by Commissioner Hart, to
approve Conditional Use Permit 1171 and Variance 1671, for the
reasons stated by Staff and to include the 17 conditions which are
listed in the Staff Report.
Commissioners Mickelson, Coontz, Hart, Vasquez
Commissioners none
Commissioner Master
MOTION CP.RRI ED
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December 21, 1981
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ZONE CHANGE 958 - SAINT JOSEPH HOSPITAL:
Request to rezone property from RM-7, OP and P-1 to PI on the
north side of Columbia Place for a 644± foot reach starting 123±
feet easterly of Main Street and on the west side of Bush Street
for a 212± foot reach south of Columbia Place. (Note: Negative
Declaration 735, in connection with General Plan Amendment, Land
Use Element 3-81A, is incorporated by reference for this project.)
Jere Murphy presented this application to the Commission, stating
that this property contains 2.2+ acres of land and is located on the
north side of Columbia Place, starting 123+ feet easterly of Main
Street and extending southerly of Columbia Place for a 212+ foot
reach along the west side of Bush Street. The property is vacant
except for the southerly half of the Bush Street reach, which is
zoned P-~ and is a developed parking lot for the medical office
building at 363 South Main Street. The remaining Bush Street
property is zoned OP and the Columbia Place property is zoned RM-7.
Mr. Murphy explained that Columbia Place is improved to a 50 foot
ultimate width and Bush Street is improved to a 60 foot ultimate
~ width. The applicant requests rezoning to P-I to permit the develop-
ment of a parking structure on the site.
Mr. Murphy explained that Staff has raised three concerns during the
time of the proposal of this application, which has been reviewed now
by Staff on several occasions. These three concerns are:
1. The precise portions of Columbia Place and Bush Street
to be abandoned.
2. Vehicular traffi c related to uses north of the parking
structure.
3. General circulation related to the parking structure in
terms of the locations of access points, as well as the
questi ons regarding the ultimate abandonment of Col umbi a
Place and people who might get involved in approaching
the parking structure who do not really intend to utilize
i t.
Mr. Murphy said that the Staff has met on a couple of occasions
with the representati ves of Saint Joseph Hospital and feel that
some of the questions raised iin the origina'~l Staff Report are
being worked on satisfactorily by the consultants for Saint Joseph
Hospital.
Mr. Murphy further explained that the Staff had listed several
concerns in a memorandum to Robyn Ravgiala, the representative at
St. Joseph Hospital and feels that rather than using the Resolution
of Intent that the Staff would recommend approval of the zone change
with the satisfyi ng of those five basic concerns 1 i sted i n the
aforementioned memorandum, to take place prior to the issuance of
building or grading permits for the parking structure. He said
that the biggest concern at this time is regarding the matter of
the comprehensive analysis of parking for the entire complex, in
that they have always tried to deal with the hospital campus as a
single entity, i ncl udi ng the uses of St. Joseph , Chi 1 dren's Hospital ,
Providence and the medical offices within the general area.
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December 21 , 1981
Page Four
Commissioner Coontz pointed out that in the switch from a Resolution
of Intent to the new recommendations, the five items listed in the
Staff Report are different than the five items listed in the
December 17th memorandum. Staff has also asked for a comprehensive
analysis of the parking plan. She asked whether these 10 points
altogether are what Staff is asking clarification for. Mr. Murphy
replied that the Staff is basically asking for a clarification of
the five points listed in the December 17th memo. As a part of
that, Items 4 and 5 address both parking layout of a permanent
nature for all of the uses proposed at this time on the campus,
as well as a contingency parking plan for St. Joseph Hospital on a
comprehensive basis. He explained that those two items were what
he was attempting to expand upon in the items listed in the Staff
Report.
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Chairman Mickelson questioned Finding #10, asking whether this is
in keeping with the recently adopted plan. Mr. Murphy answered in
the affirmative. Chairman Mickelson then questioned Staff's concern
regarding off-site parking and the possible expiring of the lease be-
fore the on-site parking is ready. hir. ~1urphy explained that the
contingency plan is basically the plan that will be utilized if the
parking structure is not completed within the time when the six-story
building, which is the next large building planned on the campus, is
completed. The contingency parking plan would provide parking for
that six-story building.
Chairman Mickelson then spoke to the first concern Staff had in their
initial Staff Report which had suggested the Intent to Rezone procedure,
after it is confirmed that General Plan Amendment 3-81 is satisfactorily
adopted, wondering if they could take the attitude that the Commission
has recommended approval on that and, therefore, they could proceed
with'. the Zone Change, on the assumption that if the Council takes a
different position on the Land Use Element that they would perhaps
send the Zone Change back to the Commission for reconsideration.
Mr. P•1urphy explained that the Council has acted upon the General Plan
Amendment just recently.
Ch airman Mickel son then asked if the hospital has power of eminent
domain and he was told that they do. Mr. Minshew explained further
on this question.
Chairman Mickelson then opened the public hearing.
John C. Goldthorpe, Administrator of St. Joseph Hospital, 1100 West
Stewart Drive, Orange, addressed the Commission in favor of this
application, stating that he was available for questions from the
Commissioner members. Commissioner Coontz asked a question regarding
the comprehensive parking plan for the hospital, asking for clarifica-
tion on Items #4 and 5 from the Staff's latest memorandum. Mr.
Goldthorpe stated that their master parking plan covers this pretty
thoroughly. He explained that Mr. Dennis, the Traffic Engineer, has
a copy of their plan. Mr. Murphy explained what this plan covers.
He also explained that Staff is also interested in seeing a series of
numbers that identify the parking lot and the parking spaces and
also wanted to see a basic plan of those parking lots arrd know, in
fact, that they could hold that number of parking spaces and what
type of parking spaces they were. They would 1 ike to see a drawing
or plot plan. Mr. Goldthorpe assured the Commission that this would
be available.
There being no one else to sneak for or against this application,
the Chairman closed the public hearing.
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Planning Commission Minutes
December 21, 1981
Page Five
Moved by Commissioner Coontz, seconded by Commissioner Vasquez,
to recommend approval of Zone Change 958, for the reasons that
(1) the proposed zoning is compatible with the surrounding 1 and
use and zoning; and (2) the proposed zoning is consistent with the
City's adopted General Plan. The Zone Change to encompass the
five conditions listed in the Staff Report, plus the five concerns
listed in the memorandum of December 17, 1981, with special emphasis
on a comprehensive analys i s of the parking 1 ayout for the entire
complex of non-profit ins ti tuti ons ; and that the conditions and
concerns listed be resolved prior to the issuance of grading or
b ui 1 di ng permits .
Commissioner Hart wondered about stating conditions fora Zone
Change. He thought that this would be setting a precedent and he
didn't feel that i t is necessary to ti e the conditions i n with a
Zone Change. Commissioner Coontz thought that they could be called
concerns instead of conditions.
Mr. Minshew thought that Zone Changes are not conditioned and what
this was supposed to do was to set up a Resolution of Intent to
Rezone.
Commissioner Hart asked if Commissioner Coontz would accept a
Resolution of Intent to Rezone and she replied that she thought
the word "concerns" could be used instead of "conditions", a
resolution stating the ten concerns, with special emphasis on a
comprehensive analysis of the parking layout, etc. as she had stated
in her motion previously, and that these items be resolved prior to
the issuance of grading or building permits.
Chairman Mickelson asked Mr. Goldthorpe if the major concerns listed
by Staff could be resolved by the time this matter appears before
the City Counci 1 . Mr. Gol dthorpe replied that they find the conditions
reasonable and intend to comply with them. His only concern was with
the timing.
Chairman Mickelson explained about the conditioning and a Zone Change,
pointing out what the Intent to Rezone does for the City.
Commissioner Hart felt that there is no problem here because the
Staff has total control, since they issue the building permit.
Commissioner Coontz pointed out also that this is a recommendation
to the City Counci 1 and they wil 1 carry i t forward from here.
AYES: Commissioners Mickelson, Coontz, Hart, Vasquez
NOES: Commissioners none
ABSENT: Commissioner Master P10TION CARRIED
ZONE CHANGE 959, TENTATIVE TRACT 11704, CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT
1172 - BARRATT IRVINE:
Request to rezone property from RD-8 to RM-7 to allow development
of a 189 unit Planned Unit Development at the southwest corner of
Lincoln Avenue and Batavia Street. (Note: Negative Declaration 744
has been prepared in lieu of an Environmental Impact Report.)
Jere Murphy presented this application to the Commission, stating
that this is a request to (1) rezone the subject property from RD-8
to RM-7 (Residential Multiple-Family District); and (2) allow develop-
ment of 189 unit planned unit development. This property is an
i rr.egul ar shaped side containing 14.7+ net acres of 1 and 1 ocated
along the eastern edge of the Santa Ana River at the southwest
corner of Lincoln Avenue and Batavia Street. It is vacant and is
i n the RD-8 (Res identi al Duplex) zoning district.
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December 21 , 1981
Page Six
~ Mr. Murphy explained that the applicant requests a zone change
from R-D-8 (Residential Dupl ex) district to R-M-7 (Residenti al
Multiple-Family) district and approval of a Conditional Use Permit
1172 and Tentative Tract hlap 11704 to allow a 189 unit Planned Unit
Development.
He pointed out that General Plan Amendment 1-77 "B" was approved by
the City on November 8, 1977 designating the site for Medium Density
Residential (6-15 DU/AC) development. On January 9, 1979 the City
Council approved Tentative Tract 10539, Pre-Zone Change 884, Con-
ditional Use Permit 930, and Environmental Impact Report 508 allowing
a pre-zoning of land to R-D-8 fora 207 unit (1 and 2 story designs
with 2 to 4 bedrooms) Planned Unit Development, with a densi ty of
7.11 DU/AC; all subject to annexation. About 99 units , as approved,
exist on the southern portion of the site. The present appl ication
is for the remainder of the former site. On May 15, 1979 the City
Council approved Annexation 328 containing the subject property.
The applicant is now proposing the use of a "zero lot line" concept
with the common wall of the attached "town home" structure located
over the lot line. The buyer owns the lot on which the structure is
located; a homeow ner association maintains common areas. It is
proposed to develop Tract 11704 in eight phases, starting at the
north end of the tract i n June 1982 and ending December 1983.
The tract ingress and egress from two 50 foot wide entrances is
proposed from Batavia Street. There is no access from Lincoln
Avenue. The northern entrance is located 240 feet south of Dunton
Avenue and the southern entrance is located opposite Westway Avenue.
Mr. Murphy explained that the project which was previously built and
this project will be separated from each other.
The Staff has reviewed the request and points out that:
1. Access to the adjacent Santa Ana River Green Belt Trail be
approved by the Orange County Mater District.
2. That a wall or fence will be installed along the western
edge of the site.
e. That the project is feasible.
Staff recommends that the Planning Commission accept the findings of
the Environmental Review Board to file Negative Declaration 744.
Staff feels that the proposed development is acceptable and recom-
mends approval of Zone Change 959, Conditional Use Permit 1172 and
Tentative Tract 11704 for the reasons that:
1. That the zone change and proposal are consistent with the
Land Use El ement of the General P1 an.
2. That the proposal meets the development standards contained
in Chapter 17.82 of the Orange Municipal Code relating to
Planned Unit Developments .
3. That the proposal is compatible with surrounding land use
and zo ni ng .
Approval is recommended subject to 24 conditions listed for the
Condi tional Use Permit and 14 condi tions 1 fisted for the Tentative
Tract.
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December 21 , 1981
Page Seven
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Mr. Murphy explained that there should be a modi fi cati on of
Condition #20 in the Staff Report for the reason that the existing
project already has an existing wall which Staff feels would be
appropriate to extend, thereby maintaining continuity of the two
projects.
Commissioner Coontz asked for further clarification of the
modification of Condition #20 and Mr. Murphy explained this in
greater detail.
Chairman Mickelson opened the public hearing.
Dennis Chiniaeff, 17752 Sky park Circle, Irvine, representing
Barratt Irvine, the applicant, addressed the Commission i n favor
of this application. He explained with regard to the existing
project, called River Trail, which consists of 100 units. About
65 units have already been constructed and about 36 units remain
to be constructed to complete this tract. They have decided to
modify the second tract to 189 from the original 187. The existing
project is a patio single-family home project and the suggested
project is a town-house concept. The units planned will be both
one and two story. They are planning this development to integrate
into the area and not create conflict with other properties already
there. He explained that emergency access is being designed in such
a way that police and fire departments will have a key allowing only
their department to use this access. He said that they have no
problem with any of the condi tions.
Randy Holbrook, 1042 W. Oregon Trail, Orange, addressed the Com-
mission, stating that he lives in the first development and had a
concern as to whether this new development will be low cost housing
and what this would do to his property value. He was also concerned
with the reduction i n the units and what thi s woul d do to the home-
owners' associatio-n in the cost of maintenance of the premises.
Chairman Mickelson asked if this would be one homeowners' association
ultimately.
Mr. Chiniaeff explained that the intention is to have two separate
homeowners' associations, one for each project. They have done a
revised budget and fees will be going down.
With regard to low cost housing, the project is not intended to be
a low cost project, although the units are smaller than the first
project. H e explained that this is a different type of unit than
the first units . However, he did not feel that thi s would have any
effect on the first project.
Shelley Holbrook, 1042 UJ. Oregon Trail, Orange, addressed the Com-
mission, wondering whether these would be family units or adult
oriented. The answer was that they would be family and adult, with
two separate recreational areas.
There being no one else to speak for or against this appl ication,
the Chairman closed the public hearing.
Moved by Commissioner Hart, seconded by Commissioner Vasquez, to
accept the findings of the Environmental Review Board to file
Negative Declaration 744.
AYES: Commissioners Mickelson, Coontz, Hart, Vasquez
NOES: Commissioners none
ABSENT: Commissioner Master MOTION CARRIED
Planning Commission Minutes
December 21 , 1981
Page Ei gh t
Moved by Commissioner Hart, seconded by Commissioner Vasquez,
to approve Zone Change 959, for the reasons as stated in the
Staff Report.
AY ES : Commissioners Mickel son, Coontz, Hart, Vasquez
NOES: Commissioners none
ABSENT: Commissioner Master MOTION CARRIED
Moved by Commissioner Hart, seconded by Commissioner Vasquez,
to recommend approval of Tentative Tract 11704 and Conditional
Use Permit 1172, subject to the Engineer's Plan Check Sheet and
the 23 conditions as shown on the Staff Report, deleting Condi ti on
# 20 .
AYES: Commissioners Mickelson, Coontz, Hart, Vasquez
NOES: Commissioners none
ABSENT: Commissioner Master MOTION CARRIED
Commissioner Coontz stated that about three years ago, when this
came up before the Commission, she mentioned that there was an
appeal on the original sa 1 e from S . A.V . I . and i t i s s ti 11 sitting
in the Circuit Court of Appeals. It is probably due to come fairly
soon, since it has been there so long.
Commissioner Hart said that he assumed that there must be an
insurance policy covering these properties. He also pointed out
a letter from the School District and wondered whether they are
getting school money from the developers. Mr. Murphy explained
that the City has not gotten directly involved in the matter of
the developers' discussions wi th the School District about School
District problems . Therefore, th ey are not aware of the discussions .
There was further discussion among the Commissions with regard to
this property and previous problems. Commissioner Hart asked the
developer what their relationship is with Orange Unified School
District and Mr. Chiniaeff explained that the original approval
with the previous developers required them to enter into an agree-
ment with the School District to pay school fee premiums . I n
their conversations with the School District, they have agreed to
honor that previous agreement. They will be paying additional
fees for their additional units. He thought that the fee is about
$355 per uni t.
IN RE: MISCELLANEOUS ITEMS:
CONSIDERATION OF PROPOSAL TO HOLD PUBLIC HEARING ON REVISED
LAMPLIGHTER TENANT RELOCATION PLAN ON JANUARY 18, 1982.
Ch airman Mickelson explained why there was a request to set thi s
matter for the January 18, 1982 Commission meeting. He suggested
that this be accepted and placed first on the agenda at that time.
Commissioner Coontz wondered if the Commission might need some
study session time on this matter. Chairman Mickelson thought that
if copies could be sent to the Commissioners prior to the January
4, 1982 meeting, they could make a decision at that time.
Moved by Chairman Mickelson, seconded by Commissioner Hart, to
direct Staff to set this hearing at the regular Planning Commission
meeting on January 18, 1982 and place it first on the agenda.
AYES: Commissioners Nickelson, Coontz, Hart, Vasquez
NOES: Commissioners none
~, ABSENT: Commissioner Master MOTION CARRIED
Planning Commission Minutes
December 21, 1981
Page Nine
°~ Commissioner Coontz brought up that in the S t. Joseph Hospital
proposal reference was made to the applicant bei ng assessed 1
of the estimated construction cost at building permit issuance for
the transportation system improvement district. She pointed out
the Commissioners had all been in favor of this, but she didn't
think they had been informed as to what i t encompasses .
Chairman Mickelson explained that he had happened to be at a
recent Santa Ana City Counci 1 meeting by acci dent when the traffic
consultant was maki ng a presentati on to the City Council . The
same traffic consultant 1 ater made a pres~entati on to the Orange
City Council. However, the committee has yet to have a meeting.
He has requested that they be invited to one of these meetings .
Mr. Murphy suggested that the Traffic Engineer could give a short
report to the Commission in this regard. This was agreed to by
the Commission members.
IN RE: ADJOURNMENT
The meeting was adjourned at 8:35 p.m. to be reconvened to a
regular meeting on Monday, January 4, 1982, at 7:30 p.m, at the
Civic Center Council Chambers, 300 East Chapman Avenue, Orange,
California .
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STATE OF CALIFORNIA ) AFFIDAVIT OF POSTING ORDER
SS. OF ADJOURNP~ENT
COUNTY OF ORANGE )
Jere P. Murphy, being first duly sworn, deposes and says:
That I am the duly chosen, qualified and acting secretary of the
Planning Commission of the City of Orange; that the regular meeting
of the Planning Commission of the City of Orange was held on
December 21, 1981; said meeting was ordered and adjourned to the
time and place specified in the order of adjournment attached hereto;
that on December 22, 1981, at the hour of 2:00 p.m., I posted a copy
of said order at a conspicuous place on or near the door of the place
at which said meeting of December 21, ]981 was held.
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EXCERPT FROM THE MINUTES OF A REGULAR MEETING OF THE ORANGE CITY PLANNING
COMMISSION HELD ON DECEMBER 21, 1981.
The regular meeting of the Orange City Planning Commission was called to
order by Chairman Mickelson at 7:30 p.m.
PRESENT: Commissioners P~ickelson, Coontz, Hart, Vasquez
ABSENT: Commissioner Master
Moved by Commissioner Coontz, seconded by Commissioner Hart, that this
meeting adjourn at 8:35 p.m. on Monday, December 21, 1981 to reconvene
at 7:30 p.m. P~onday, January 4, 1981 at the Civic Center Council Chambers,
300 East Chapman Avenue, Orange, California.
I, Jere P. Murphy, Secretary to the Orange Planning Commission, Orange,
California, do hereby certify that the foregoing is a true, full and
correct copy of that portion of the minutes of a regular meeting of the
Planning Commission held on Monday, December 21, 1981.
Dated this 22nd day of December, 1981 at 2:00 p.m.
Jer P. Murphy, City P I annex' and
Se etary to the Planning Commission
the City of Orange .
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