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City of Orange
Orange, California
December 6, 1982
Monday, 7:30 p.m.
The regular meeting of the Orange City Planning Commission was called to order by
Chairman Mickelson at 7:30 p:m.
PRESENT: Commissioners Mickelson, Hart, Coontz, Master, Vasquez
ABSENT: Commissioners none
STAFF Jere P. Murphy, Administrator of Current Planning and Commission
PRESENT: Secretary; Norvin Lanz, Associate Planner; Gene Minshew, Assistant
City Attorney; Gary Johnson, City Engineer; and Doris Ofsthun,
Recording Secretary.
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
IN RE: ITEMS TO BE CONTINUED OR WITHDRAWN:
ZONE CHANGE 984, VARIANCE 1709 - CENTURY AMERICAN CORPORATION:
A request to change from the OP (Office-Professional) District to
the C-P (Commercial-Professional) District and permission to provide
less than the required setback in the C-P District on the southern
portion of a parcel of land located on the northeast corner of
Katella Avenue and .Wanda Street. (NOTE: Negative Declaration 798
has been filed in lieu of Environmental Impact Report.)
Jere Murphy explained that the applicant had requested a continuance
to January 3, 1983.
Moved by Commissioner Vasquez, seconded by Commissioner Master to
continue Zone Change 984, Variance 1709 - Century American Corporation
to January 3, 1982, as requested.
AYES: Commissioners Mickelson,
NOES: Commissioners none
ABSENT: Commissioners none
IN RE: NEW HEARINGS:
ZONE CHANGE 981 - CITY OF ORANGE:
MOTION CARRIED
A request to rezone property from the R-M-7 (Residential Multiple-
Family) District and the C-1 (Local Business) District to the
M-H (Mobile Home) District on property located on the north side
of Collins Avenue 251± feet east of the centerline of Tustin Street
(1801 East Collins Avenue). (NOTE: Negative Declaration 796 has
been filed in lieu of an Environmental Impact Report.)
Norvin Lanz presented this application to the Commission, stating
that this property contains 5.8 acres of land and is located on the
north side of Collins Avenue 251± feet east of the centerline of Tustin
Street (1801 East Collins Avenue). The property is developed with a
73 unit mobile home park on property zoned R-M-7 and C-1.
Mr. Lanz explained that on May 18, 1982 City Council adopted Urgency
Ordinance No. 15-82 prohibiting the conversion of any mobile home
park to any other use, pending completion of a study on the appropriate
land use provisions which should be applied to all mobile home parks.
At the same hearing, the City Council directed staff to commence public
hearings to rezone existing mobile home parks to the mobile home
district.
He further explained that on September 30, 1982, members of the City
Council and Planning Commission met in a joint study session and dis-
cussed policy concepts to be used as a basis for policy actions related
to mob i 1 e home parks i n the City. On October 12, 1982, the City
Council referred the report of the September 30, 1982 meeting to the
Housing Advisory Committee to begin the process of formulating
policies for Council adoption. Policies and actions considered are
Hart, Coontz, Master, Vasquez
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December 6 , 19 82
Page Two
a. Continue the requirement that future mobile home park
developments be zoned M-H.
b. Continue to hold public hearings to rezone existing
parks to MH District and:
(1) if approved either (a) adopt an ordinance or policy that
this is not a permanent action but serves to afford
tenants with adequate notice (time) to address relocation
requirements; ordinances to be circulated to the tenants;
or, (b) include language to the effect of (a) above in
Staff reports and resolutions to record the City's intent.
(2) if denied, adopt a policy or resolution that any change of
use (including revision to vacant land) would require
preparation of a Tenant Relocation Impact Report and
possibly a Tenant Relocation Plan.
c. Tenant Relocation assistance plans are to continue to be
established between the property owner, park tenants and, if
necessary, a neutral third party; said plans to be evaluated for
adequacy at public hearings.
d. The City will not adopt a universal formula for relocation
assistance plans as factors differ in each park. How ever, the
City could adopt a policy that benefits are to be paid equally
to all tenants regardless of the date they vacated the park and
the City could adopt guidelines to include factors to be
evaluated in formulating relocation assistance plans.
Staff has reviewed this proposal and has expressed a few concerns:
1. That it appears the intent of the City Council to stabilize
existing mobile home park housing in the City by rezoning them
to the Mobile Home Park district may not be accomplished by this
procedure. It is presumed the park owner would simultaneously
request a new zone and initiate the public hearing process. How-
ever, if a rezone request is not processed simultaneously with
the decision to merely go out of the mobile home park business,
no public review would be required while tenants were required
to relocate. City staff differs in their opinion as to whether
the going out of business constitutes a change of use.
2. Rezoning to mobile home district may be giving tenants of a park
a false sense of security.
3. Procedural options, such as an ordinance or an overlay zone
requiring an impact report upon any use change in a park, could
be equally or more effective and less costly to process.
Staff recommends that the findings of the Environmental Review Board
to file Negative Declaration 796 be accepted.
With regard to a recommendation on Zone. Change 981, field reviews
reveal that the Collins Avenue access to this site is restricted by
the elevation of the Collins Avenue Overpass to the Newport-Costa Mesa
Freeway. Further, th e site does not enjoy access to Collins Avenue
or Tustin Street through parcels to the west, as does the commercial
center across the street on the south side of Collins Avenue. It is
felt that the site's limited accessibility makes it unsuitable for
commercial or office uses and suggests residential use as its best use.
The probability of the use of the site for residential uses and the
prospect that the City Council will be adopting policies i,n the future
~. that affect mobile home parks suggests three action options:
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December 6, 1982
Page Three
1. Deny Zone Change 981 without prejudice and recommend that
a policy resolution be adopted that states any change of use
(including reversion to vacant land) will require preparation
of a Tenant Relocation Plan for City service.
2. Approve Zone Change 981 for the following reason and policies:
a. Reasons:
1) The proposed zone is compatible with the surrounding
uses and zones .
2) The proposed zone is consistent with the foreseeable
and present use of the property.
3) The proposed zone is compatible with the City's
General Plan.
b. Policies:
1) Adopt a policy resolution that states that the City
recognizes this zone change is not necessarily a
permanent action, but serves to afford the tenants
with adequate notice to address relocation require-
ments upon a park owner's request to change the use;
policy statement to be circulated to the tenants; and
2) Adopt a policy resolution that states that any change in
use (including reversion to vacant land) will require
the preparation of a Tenant Relocation Impact Report
and possibly a Tenant Relocation Plan for City review;
policy statement to be circulated to the tenants, or
3. Postpone action until the City Council adopts a set of policies
or guidelines for the development, retention or redevelopment of
mobile home parks in the City.
Chairman Mickelson asked what the General Plan designation was for
this area and Mr. Lanz responded that it was medium density residential
and commercial, R-M-7 and C-1. Mr. Murphy further explained that Staff
takes the position that the change. to MH zoning does not constitute a
significant deviation to the General Plan and, therefore, doesn't require
a General Plan Amendment.
Chairman Mickelson opened the public hearing.
~, Tom Caldwell, owner of the Go Forth Mobile Home Village, addressed the
Commission in favor of this application, also introducing his wife,
Marge, as co-owner of the park. He explained that this is a request
by the City, not a request by the owners of the park. However, they
are very much in favor of this zone change, as they would like to stay
in the mobile home park business. Their residents have a very sizable
investmen t in their mobile homes and they feel the residents should
have this reassurance.
Burt Rafter, resident of Go Forth Mobile Home Village, addressed the
Commission, asking for clarification of the mobile home zoning which
is proposed. He wondered if this is being done to make it more difficult
to change the mobile home park to something else. Chairman Mickelson
replied that this is pretty much what it means and he explained the
situation in a little greater detail.
There being no one else to speak for or against this application,
the Chairman closed the public hearing.
1~1oved by Commissioner Coontz, seconded by Commissioner Master to
accept the findings of the Environmental Review Board to file
Negative Declaration 796.
AYES: Commissioners Mickelson,
NOES: Commissioners none
ABSENT: Commissioners none
Hart, Coontz, Master, Vasquez
MOTION CARRIED
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December 6, 1982
Page Four
Moved by Commissioner Master, seconded by Commissioner Coontz
to recommend approval of Zone Change 981, for reasons as stated
by Staff.
AYES: Commissioners Mickelson, Hart, Coontz, Master, Vasquez
NOES: Commissioners none
ABSENT: Commissioners none MOTION CARRIED
ZONE CHANGE 985, CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 1243 - M/M GENE SEVERS,
FAR HORIZONS MONTESSORI, ORANGE UNIFIED SCHOOL DISTRICT:
A request to change from the R-1-6 (Single-Family Residence)
District to the OP (Office Professional) District and a request
to convert a single-family residence (292 North Main Street) to
an office use; rezoning involving three parcels located on the
southwest corner of Main Street and Palm Avenue (264 and 292 North
Main Street). (NOTE: Negative Declaration 799 has been filed in
lieu of an Environmental Impact Report.)
Jere Murphy presented this application to the Commission, stating
that the property consists of three parcels which total approximately
1.35 acres of land bounded by Palm Avenue, Palm Drive, and Main Street.
The property is zoned R-1-6 and contains a single-family residence on
the north east parcel, a vacant lot on the northwest parcel, and a single-
family residence on the south parcel.
He explained that the applicants request a zone change on three parcels
of land from R-1-6 to 0-P, and the conversion of a single-family
residence to an office use. He pointed out that on March 18, 1980
the City Council overruled the recommendation of the Planning Com-
mission and denied the reclassification of the property in question
from R-1-6 to 0-P. He went on to explain that on January 7, 1980
the Planning Commission approved a conditional use permit to allow a
private school upon the south parcel of the property in question and
on July 7, 1982 the Planning Commission granted a second extension of
time for the use of the conditional use permit.
Mr. Murphy told the Commission that the applicants request that the
single-family residence located on the northeast parcel be converted
to a marriage and family counseling center with 8 parking spaces
which meets City Code). No development plans have been submitted for
the northwestern parcel which is currently vacant and owned by the
Orange Unified School District. Mr. Murphy said that the Land Use
Element of the General Plan designates the general area for major
commercial, public facilities, and low density residential use.
The Staff has reviewed the proposal and has a few concerns:
1. The two designated parking spaces located in the garage of the
marriage and family counseling center should be made available
for public parking during normal business hours.
2. The applicant needs to provide the necessary street improvements
along Palm Avenue.
3. In the event that any of the parcels are redeveloped to office
use and particularly if parcels are combined, the proposed
development plans should be reviewed to insure they are
compatible with the area.
Staff recommends acceptance of the findings of the Environmental
Review Board to file Negative Declaration 799.
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December 6, 1982
Page Five
Staff further recommends approval of Zone Change 985 under the
intent to rezone procedure to insure compatibility of proposed
development with surroundings, for four reasons:
1. That the porposal is consistent with the intent of the
general plan.
2. That the property, because of the lack of residential
character on the west side of Main Street, is far more
appropriate for office-professional use than for residential
use.
3. That the property has direct access to a primary arterial
street.
4. That office-professional use will serve as a desirable
and logical buffer zone between the commercial areas to
the south and the residential areas to the north and west.
Staff also recommends approval of Conditional Use Permit 1243,
subject to the twelve (12) conditions listed in the Staff Report,
which includes one special condition - that all parking spaces,
including covered spaces, be available to the public during normal
business hours.
Chairman Mickelson asked if the denial of the zone change in 1980 was
just for the Severs property and Mr. Murphy replied that he thought
that it was for at least two of the properties in question, if not the
entire package of properties, the same as are being requested at this
time.
Commissioner Coontz asked about the land use designation and Mr.
Murphy replied that the General Plan. indicates several different
designations in the area, including low density residential, public
facilities for the schools, as well as major commercial to the south,
which includes the fire station and commercial uses at Main and Chapman.
Chairman Mickelson opened the public hearing.
Gunvar Severs, 292 N. Main Street, Orange, addressed the Commission
in favor of this application, explaining that in 1980, when Montessori
asked fora zone change, they decided to ask for this change also.
The Commission was very sympathetic to their request, but the City
Council denied it because of pressure from many citizens in the area.
At this time, the traffic has increased steadily and there is much
traffic on Main Street, including trucks, fire trucks, buses and,
since the traffic lights were installed when the street was widened,
things are much worse. Also when the street was widened, their front
:yard was taken away. Therefore, their front door is right at the
street. The Montessori School will soon be in operation, which will
bring more traffic. This area has been definitely affected by the
growth and change in the city. It is no longer conducive to residents.
Mrs. Severs explained that they have been trying to sell their property
for three years and to no avail, because of the noise and lack of
safety for children.
Nora Muller, one of the owners of the Montessori School, addressed
the Commission in favor of this application. She agreed with Mrs.
Severs that their property is very difficult to sell as a family
residence. When their school opens in January it will be almost impossible
to live on that property or to sell it. She appealed to the Commission
to carefully consider approving this zone change.
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December 6, 1982
Page Six
Mrs. Severs again addressed the Commission and said that she knows
that the Orange Unified School District had their piece of property
up for sale recently. They had no takers as a residential piece of
property.
Paula Kauffman, a realtor who represents the Severs in trying to sell
their home, addressed the Commission in favor of this application.
She stated that this property is surrounded on three sides by schools,
with much traffic in the area. There have been many inquiries on the
property but no one wants it as a residence. Their buyer wishes to
put in a family counseling center with accessible parking which will
not be visible from the street. They will need no off-street parking
requirements and will work closely with the Montessori School. Ms.
Kauffman explained that there is a need for this type of a center in
the community. She further explained that there is no longer any need
for the residence on this property. The proposed use agrees with the
general plan. This is a compatible adaptation in this area.
Leslie Donovan, addressed the Commission, stating that she will be one
of the counselors working in the proposed center.. She and her husband
have a center in Los Alamitos and need to expand. Therefore, they have
chosen this property as right for their councseling center. They feel
that this will be a real contribution to the City of Orange and the
general neighborhood. The character of the house will remain the same.
There will only need to be changes in the parking arrangement. They
feel that they will not be adding to the traffic burden.
Commissioner Vasquez asked what ty pe of counseling they are involved
in and Mrs. Donovan replied that this is a marriage, family and children
counseling center. Commissioner Vasquez asked for more details regarding
the child counseling and Mrs. Donovan replied that this is a private
practice and the children who are being counseled are there through an
infra-family situation.
Diane Fedderson, addressed the Commission in favor of this application,
explaining that she is the co-listing agent and realtor with Coldwell
Banker. She explained that they listed the property at a price,
anticipating a zone change. She felt this would be a dangerous property
for a family with children. Also because of the traffic, noise and
emissions, plus intrusion on their privacy, because of being so close to
the street. This is not a desirable piece of property for a residence.
They have had many inquiries on the property, but no one has considered
it fora residence. They have had inquiries to change it to a doctor's
office, or an apartment complex. She felt that the marriage counseling
center would benefit the community.
Art Hawkins, rbpresenting the real estate management company who
represent the Do novans in this transaction, addressed the Commission
in favor of this application. He stated that he is a personal friend
of the Donovans, aside from being their real estate agent and knows
that they run a very good establ ishment in Los Alamitos. He felt that
this center will act as a good buffer between the commercial and
residential zones. Their traffic pattern will be very low and this
use coincides with what the general plan calls for. He felt that this
is a most logical use for this particular piece of property. The area
has changed and this property needs new life without making too drastic
a change.
Tom Rogers, 1227 W. Palm, Orange, addressed the Commission in opposition
to this application. He lives about four doors from the property in
question. He felt that the reason many of the neighbors are against
this is that there is a buffer now. The Akron and Ralphs center acts as
a buffer at this time. It is true that the Severs cannot sell their
property for what they are asking. Residences are selling for $98,000
at this time and the Severs are asking for $150,000. He stated that
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December 6, 1982
Page Seven
~ he took exception to the statement that the whole area is a mix.
This is a residential area with schools in the area. Commercial
comes to Main Street and stops. This use would bring it further in-
to the residential area. He did not feel that not being able to sell
their property for their asking price is a valid reason for a zone
change. By moving the commercial area further north, it places a burden
on the residents in that area. They are happy with the commercial set
the way it is, but do not want it to be encouraged to move any further
north. Mr. Rogers pointed out that they realize that Montessori will
create more traffic, but they are prepared for this eventuality. This
was talked over when Montessori came before the Commission earlier.
Frances Williams, 1226 W. Sycamore, Orange, addressed the Commission
in opposition to this application, stating that she was present at the
City Council meeting the last time this came up. She sees primarily
a woman who is unhappy in the home she is in and wants to get out. However,
there is a moral obligation to the rest of the community. She has lived in
the area for 22 years and for years they have had to go long distances
to find a market. They are grateful to have Ralphs in their neighborhood.
They have a fire station which is helpful to their safety and not a
business. They have a school and a park, They do not need a business
and professional building in this area, She felt that there are many
buildings available and empty in the rest of the city for this purpose.
She thought that the City of Orange is a lovely city but things must
be done i n moderation and changes shoul d not be made for one person',s ,
needs when they hurt someone else.
Lois garke 2022 Spruce, Orange, addressed the Commission in opposition
to this application. She asked if the Commissioners had a map of the
land use zone which shows a low density residential use in that entire
area. The contention was made that the traffic light was put in in
conjunction with the street lighting. This is not true - the traffic
light has been there fora long time. She also felt that it is not
true that there is a problem with children crossing a busy street to
play. Ralphs does not increase traffic drastically in this area, in
her opinion. In addition to the fire station, there i s a vi ctory
garden and then the Montessori School. She felt that many people
were not aware that it was going in, as it went in under a conditional
use permit.
Ms. ~ rke explained that the Severs have had this property up for sale
for some time and it is quite overpriced for the surrounding residences.
With reference to truck traffic, she explained that in our recently
passed truck route, that part of Main Street has been removed and as
soon as the signs are in place that part of Main should become quieter.
She pointed out that the School District lot is 75 x 100. It was ap-
parently excess property which is why it is so small. She explained
the situation for crossing the street at the Sycamore light, pointing
out that the children do not cross on Main Street.
Regarding the marriage counseling service being a quiet business,
this is an 0-P zone change and if they do not get their financing, any
kind of professional business can go i n there. Ms. f~r!<e asked what the
CUP allowed and was told that it is a conversion of a residence to
0-P.
Commissioner Coontz stated that they have not seen the truck route plan
and she pointed out that north to Orangewood is all M-1 and M-2.
Ms. Darke explained how the truck route is being changed. There was
a discussion between Ms.Barke and Commissioner Coontz with regard to
truck movement around the city. Ms „~ rke also asked why Montessori
is applying fora zone change when all they need is a conditional use
permit. Chairman Mickelson explained that the Commission cannot base
their decision on what will go into that place, but they must base
their decision on whether it is proper to have 0-P zoning in that area.
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December 6, 1982
Page Eight
Commissioner Master asked for clarification with regard to Staff's
recommendation of intent to rezone for the situation as it is now,
wondering how it would be handled if there was a change in use.
Mr. Murphy replied that the major purpose in using the intent to
rezone procedure would be to review the existing vacant parcel to
insure that any physical structure being built is compatible. It
would not be for the purpose of controlling the use for the district.
Commissioner Coontz did not understand this statement. She wondered
if it is going to apply to the vacant parcel owned by the school
district, why wouldn't it also apply to the property on the corner,
in the event that the house was demolished and there was a desire to
build an office-professional building.. Mr. Murphy responded that the
property will have to be zoned 0-P for the applicants to use the building
for an office use. Staff's suggestion is to withhold zoning the
property until it is used for an office use.
Commissioner Hart asked if a school is allowable in an 0-P zone and
was told that this is so.
~. Mr. Hawkins again addressed the Commission, explaining that when they
went in fora zone change on their one piece of property they were told
by Staff that they would stand a much better chance if the other two
lots went with it. He believes that the victory garden is zoned 0-P
and they would like to extend this down. He explained that the counseling
center is a very small business.
Mrs. Severs again addressed the Commission to explain that the reason
they are trying to sell their home is because her husband has been
transferred to Oregon and she wants to join him.
Mrs. Donovan, owner of the counseling center, again addressed the
Commission and explained that when they came to the Staff they were
t91d there must be a zone change in order to run their business in this
area.
There being no one else to speak for or against this application, the
Chairman closed the public hearing.
Commissioner Hart pointed out that in looking at the zoning map, the
applicant's agent has pointed out that the victory garden next door
is zoned 0-P - was this not spot zoning? He could not quarrel with
~ this intended use.
Commissioner Master wished to explore further with Staff and the
Commissioner how the intent to rezone could be placed in perpetuity
on the property. Commissioner Coontz agreed with this thought. Their
concern was that there is a possible inequity by applying the intent
to rezone on the vacant parcel, but not on the parcel with a residence
on it. Why cannot that intent to rezone somehow remain in effect in
perpetuity so that in the event the residence is turned down, or
Montessori goes out of business and the three parcels perhaps become one.
Mr. Minshew explained that there have been several instances before
the Council where they have restricted the use and said that Council
may rezone. Commissioner Coontz thought this had been because of a
possible lack of compatibility in the area. Mr. Minshew did not under-
stand why they would want this to be in perpetuity, to be used as a
club. There are other ways to accomplish the same goal. Council can
record an instrument so that they may .rezone property if the zone
changes. Commissioner Master felt that, in general, there have been
some .changes eminent along Main Street. This change might set a precedent.
He felt that 0-P is appropriate here but that some form of controls should
exist.
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December 6, 1982
Page Nine
Moved by Commissioner Master, seconded by Commissioner Hart to
` accept the findings of the Environmental Review Board to file
Negative Declaration 799, with subsequent mitigating measures.
AYES: Commissioners Mickelson,
NOES: Commissioners none
ABSENT: Commissioners none
AYES:
NOES:
ABSENT:
AYES:
NOES:
ABSENT:
Hart, Coontz, Master, Vasquez
h10TI0N CARRIED
Chairman Mickelson thought that, because of its unique position and
surroundings, the property is appropriate for Office-Professional
without controls. Commissioner Hart agreed with this thinking.
Chairman Mickelson felt that the 0-P is a very restrictvie zone. It
is likely that a two-story building could be built there, but no more
than two-story and use would be restricted.
Moved by Commissioner Hart, seconded by Commissioner Coontz to
recommend approval of Zone Change 985, for the reasons as stated in
the Staff Report.
Commissioners Mickelson, Hart, Coontz, Vasquez
Commissioner Master
Commissioners none
MOTION CARRIED
Moved by Commissioner H-art, seconded by Commissioner Coontz to
recommend approval of Conditional Use Permit 1243, subject to the
12 conditions listed in the Staff Report, which include one special
condition.
Commissioners Mickelson, Hart, Coontz, Vasquez
Commissioner .Master
Commissioners none
MOTION CARRIED
Commissioner Master felt that some mitigating measures should have
been built into the motions, to soften the blow to the surrounding
community .and aid in the transition from one zone to another.
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 1240, VARIANCE 1708 - MARLENE THOMASON:
A request for permission to construct a second story room addition
over a relocated one car garage which exceeds the one story height
restriction placed by the RCD (Overlay) District for any new con-
struction; and to encroach on the side and rear setback areas on
property located on the south side of Moreland Drive, approximately
158 feet east of the centerline of Shaffer Street (524 Moreland Drive).
(NOTE; This project is exempt from environmental review.)
It was the consensus of the Commission to forego a presentation.
Chairman Mickelson opened the public hearing.
Marlene Thomason, the applicant, addressed the Commission, stating
that she had read the Staff Report and accepted .all conditions listed
therein.
There being no one else to speak for or against this application,
the Chairman closed the public hearing.
Moved by Commissioner Hart, seconded by Commissioner Coontz to approve
Conditional Use Permit 1240 and Variance 170 8, for the reasons as
set forth in the Staff Report and subject to the conditions listed
in the Staff Report.
AYES: Commissioners Mickelson, Hart, Coontz, Master, Vasquez
NOES: Commissioners none
~ ABSENT: Commissioners none MOTION CARRIED
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December 6, 1982
Page Ten
IN RE: MISCELLANEOUS ITEMS:
Commissioner Master commented that he was not sure if the truck
route report was ready yet, but it is obvious that Batavia is going
to catch much of the traffic, He felt that people will probably be
coming in on this. Commissioner Coontz wondered why they have not
received this report yet, also wondering what the status is on the
truck route study. Mr. Johnson explained that this study has been
pretty much finalized and should have been presented to the Commission.
It is not part of the General Plan and perhaps that is the reason
why it was not presented. He proposed that Bernie Dennis be asked
to present the truck route study report to the Commission in the
near future. It was his belief that this has already been adopted
by the Council. The Commissioners felt that it would be good to be
informed on this,
Mr. Murphy asked if this might be included in the study session on
the historic element. A study session was .then set for Wednesday,
December 15 at 5:00 p.m. to study the historic element and possibly
the truck route study could be presented at that time.
Commissioner Hart spoke a little bit about the Orange County Planning Com-
missioner~ meeting which he recently attended, where they spoke on
decision making. He thought it was a good idea to attend these sessions
as they have good information. 60 cities were represented by Planning
Commissioners from the cities and one from the county.
Chairman Mickelson brought up the memorandum which he had sent to the
Commissioners regarding the procedure for handling public hearings.
Moved by Chairman Mickelson, seconded by Commissioner Coontz to adopt
this procedure and to instruct the Staff to provide a copy with each
Staff Report which goes out.
AYES: Commissioners
NOES: Commissioners
ABSENT: Commissioners
Mickelson, Hart, Coontz, Master, Vasquez
none
none
MOTION CARRIED
IN RE: ADJOURNMENT
The meeting was adjourned at 9:00 p.m, to be reconvened to a study
session on Wednesday, December 15, 7982 at 5:00 p.m. and thence to
a regular meeting on Monday, December 20, 1982 at 7:30 p.m, at the
Civic Center Council Chambers, 300 East Chapman Avenue, Orange,
California.