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City of Orange
Orange, California
PLANNING COMMISSION
MINUTES
February 20, 1985
Monday, 7:30 p.m.
The regular meeting of the City of Orange Planning Commission was called to
order by Vice Chairman Mason at 7:30 p.m.
PRESENT: Commissioners, Greek, Hart, Mason, Scott
ABSENT: Commissioner Master
STAFF John Lane, Administrator of Current Planning and Commission Secre-
PRESENT: tary; Jim Reichert, Associate Planner; Gene Minshew, Assistant
City Attorney; Gary Johnson, City Engineer; and Toba V. Wheeler,
Recording Secretary.
IN RE:
AYES:
NOES:
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
MINUTES OF FEBRUARY 4, 1985
The minutes were corrected as follows: On page 8, first paragraph,
last word of next to last line should be "easterly" instead of
!'iwesterly. "
Moved by Commissioner Hart, seconded by Commissioner Greek, that
the minutes of February 4, 1985, be approved as corrected.
Commissioners Greek, Hart, Mason, Scott
None ABSENT: Commissioner Master MOTION CARRIED
IN RE: CONTINUED HEARINGS
GENERAL PLAN - LAND USE ELEMENT 2-84-A, ZONE CHANGE 1014 - ORANGE
SENIOR HOUSING, INC.
A request to amend the General Plan - Land Use Element designation
from Low Density and Medium Density to High Density Residential
(15 to 24 du/ac) and to change the zoning from R-1-6 and R-D-6 to
RM-7 on a 7±-acre parcel adjacent to the north side of Santiago
Creek between Cambridge Street and Shaffer Street. NOTE: This
item was continued from the May 7, 1984, September 5, 1984, and
November 5, 1984, Planning Commission meetings.
Mr. Lane said a request had been received from Orange Senior
Housing, Inc., to continue this item to the meeting of March 18,
1985.
Moved by Commissioner Hart, seconded by Commissioner Scott, that
this item be continued to the meeting of March 18, 1985.
AYES: Commissioners Hart, Mason, Scott
NOES: None ABSENT: Commissioner Master
ABSTAINED: Commissioner Greek MOTION CARRIED
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February 20, 1985
Page Two
IN RE: CONTINUED HEARINGS
TENANT DISLOCATION IMPACT REPORT - ORANA TRAILER PARK
Discussion and action pertaining to a Tenant Dislocation Impact
Report prepared for the Orange Trailer Park located on the south
side of Chapman Avenue, approximately 150 feet west from Main
Street. NOTE: This item was continued from the December 17,
1984, Planning Commission Meeting.
Mr. Lane said the applicant has requested that this item be removed
from the agenda because the negotiations for the sale of the prop-
erty have fallen through.
Moved by Commissioner Greek, seconded by Commissioner Hart, that
this item be removed from the agenda.
AYES: Commissioners Greek, Hart, Mason, Scott
NOES: None
ABSENT: Commissioner Master MOTION CARRIED
IN RE: CONTINUED HEARINGS
TENTATIVE TRACT 10112, CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 1382 - RIDGEWOOD
Proposed 46-lot subdivision and a Conditional Use Permit to allow
a planned unit development of detached, single-family residences
on approximately eight acres situated along the proposed extension
of Canyon View Avenue approximately 1600 feet east from the inter-
section of East Chapman Avenue and Canyon View Avenue. NOTE: This
item was continued from the January 7 and January 21, 1985, Planning
Commission meetings.
Mr. Lane said a request was received from Ridgewood Development
to continue this item to the meeting of April 1, 1985.
Moved by Commissioner Hart, seconded by Commissioner Greek, that
this item be continued to the meeting of April 1, 1985.
AYES:. Commissioners Greek, Hart, Mason, Scott
NOES: None
ABSENT:. Commissioner Master MOTION CARRIED
IN RE QONTINUED MISCELLANEOUS ITEM
REDUCTION OF OFF-STREET PARKING - CENTURY AMERICAN
Request to allow 10~ reduction in the number of parking spaces
from 31 to 28 at a proposed retail center at the southeast corner
of Tustin and Wilson.
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February 20, 1985
Page Three
Mr. Lane said the applicant has requested that this item be removed
from the agenda because its plans have been revised. It was estab-
lished that no motion is needed to remove this item from the agenda.
IN RE: NEW HEARINGS
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 1398 - TURNER & PRIZIO
Proposed office use in the M-1 zonin!g_district at the northeast
corner of Eckhoff and Sequoia.
NOTE: Negative Declaration 959 has been prepared for this project.
Mr. Lane made the presentation in accordance with the Staff Report
and said Staff recommends approval subject to the conditions in its
report. Vice Chairman Mason opened the public hearing.
Applicant Dave Prizio, 1781 Teri Lynn Lane, Santa Ana, said he
understands and agrees to the conditions in the Staff Report and
is available for questions.
Vice Chairman Mason declared the public hearing closed.
Moved b~ Commissioner Hart, seconded by Commissioner Greek, that
the Planning Commission accept the findings of the Environmental
Review Board to file Negative Declaration 944.
AYES:. Commissioners Greek, Hart, Mason, Scott
NOES:. None
ABSENT: Commissioner Master MOTION CARRIED
Commissioner Greek requested clarification regarding the Special
Condition added on page 3 of the Staff. Report regarding approval
by the Traffic Engi-Weer in determining the need for installation
of traffic and on-street parking control measures by the applicant.
Mr. Lane reponded that the Traffic Engineer indicated he has no
major problems with the project and no major improvements will be
required in relation to traffic. He said improvements will probably
be limited to some sign posting and marking of curbs, such as stop
signs and red curbs.
Moved by Commissioner Scott, seconded by Commissioner Hart, that
the Planning Commission recommend approval of Conditional Use
Permit 1398 subject to the conditions in the Staff Report.
AYES: Commissioners Greek, Hart, Mason, Scott
NOES: None
ABSENT: Commissioner Master
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.February 20, 1985
Page Four
IN RE: NEW HEARINGS
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 1399 - COVE DEVELOPMENT
Proposed office use in the M-1 and M-2 zoning districts on the
west side of Eckhoff, between Collins and Sequoia.
NOTE: Negative Declaration 960 has been prepared for this project.
Mr. Lane made the presentation in accordance with the Staff Report
and said Staff recommends approval subject to the eighteen condi-
tions in its report. Vice Chairman Mason opened the public hearing.
Applicant Rod Emery, president of Cove Development, 3737 Birch
Street, Newport Beach, gave a brief summary of the plans and said
he is available for questions; however, he has some questions about
Conditions #1 and #6 in the Staff Report. Regarding Condition #1,
said he feels it
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with one or both of the adjacent uses; however, it is the Police
Department that is concerned with the tunnel becoming a public
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show closure rather than removal. Mr. Lane said Staff would have
no problem with that and he feels the Police Department world be
satisfied with a secure tunnel, i. e., both ends closed. Commis-
sioner Hart suggested substituting the word "closed" instead of
the word "removed" in the Condition. Mr. Emery asked for clarifi-
cation of Condition #6 as to what is meant by specialized fire-
fighting equipment and said he is willing to comply with what is
needed if the Condition will specify the needed equipment. Dis-
cussion followed and upon advice from Mr. Lane, the Planning
Commission agreed to remove Condition #6.
Vice Chairman Mason closed the public hearing.
Commissioner Greek asked Mr. Emery if provision had been made .to
build~:over. the easement, as shown on the plans. Mr. Emery said
the six-story building may slightly encroach upon-the easement,
which is south of the four-story building, the latter not being
modified and also being contiguous with the southerly end of the
six-story building. Commissioner Greek pointed out that there is
no parking there now, only a driveway. Mr. Emery said that was
correct and that the 30' easement is 20' in fee to the ownership
of Varco and 10` in fee to Mr. Eckhoff, and that Cove Development
is presently negotiating with Mr. Eckhoff to acquire his parcel,
as well as discussing modifications to his property line; however,
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February 20, 1985
Page Five
if that proves to be a problem Cove can change its plans for a
parking area. Mr. Emery asked if approval from the Planning
Commission was relative to the exact parking layout as well as
to the building plans; he said it was the understanding of his
staff that the application was only for the Conditional Use
Permit and not a specific site plan approval. Mr. Lane said
that since the Conditional Use Permit is to allow office use in
an industrial zone, there has to be a site plan to determine the
amount of off-street parking and other things related to the
project; therefore, the site plan is part of the approval of the
Conditional Use Permit. Mr. Emery said that on past projects
the Design Review Board has allowed modifications of landscape
and parking layouts from those originally approved by the Condi-
tional Use Permits. Mr. Hart said he was disturbed by the fact
that the Design Review Board has modified plans approved by
the Planning Commission since anything approved by the Commission
® was supposed to be final.
Mr. Emery said that Cove Development has excess parking presently
so the parking plan shown can be modified and the landscaping
moved without any impact to the required amount of parking.. He
said the plan is not really dimensioned for purposes of a specific
site plan approval at this time. He said they don't want to get
approval on a project that will require them to negotiate with
Mr. Eckhoff to park on his easement, they would like the flexi-
bility of being able to modify their plans as long as they supply
the same amount of landscaping and parking and adequate ingress
and egress. Commissioner Greek said he feels they will have a
problem with supplying enough parking because he can't see where
they will make up the loss of one tier of parking if they lose
the easement area. Commissioner Hart asked what latitude someone
else has with changing a plan relative to precise location of the
building and/or the amount of available parking after that plan
has been approved by the Planning Commission. Mr. Lane said non-
substantive changes could be accommodated as long as they. would
not affect the public hearing validity. Commissioner Hart said
he thought so also and was wondering how far the Design Review
Board's authority does extend in changing a precise plan. Mr.
Lane said he thinks they have the authority only to approve the
landscape plan, the exterior building elevation and things of
that nature which are design related, but not to alter substant-
ively any plan that has been approved by the .Planning Commission.
Commissioner Hart suggested that the application be approved
with a condition that Cove Development meet the parking code ,.
and asked Mr. Emery if he would have a problem with that. Mr.
Emery said he felt that to specify that Cove Development is to
meet code requirements for parking and landscaping without major
or substantive modifications to the plan would be acceptable and
he thinks everything could be worked out to both Cove Develop-
ment's and the Planning Commission's mutual agreement with much
difficulty.
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February 20, 1985
Page Six
Vice Chairman Mason declared the public hearing closed.
Moved by Commissioner Greek, seconded by Commissioner Scott, that
the Planning Commission accept the findings of the Environmental
Review Board to file Negative Declaration 960.
AYES: Commissioners Greek, Hart, Mason, Scott
NOES: None
ABSENT: Commissioner Master MOTION CARRIED
Moved by Commissioner Greek, seconded by Commissioner Hart, that
the Planning Commission recommend approval of Conditional Use
Permit 1399 for the reasons indicated in the Staff Report, subject
to the conditions in the Staff Report with the following revisions:
a) Condition #1 be changed to read "That the tunnel existing under
Eckhoff Street shall be abandoned in a manner meeting with the
approval of the Departments of Public Works and Police," b) Condi-
tion # 6 be deleted,. and c) the parking requirements indicated in
the Staff Report be maintained and if the 35 spaces indicated in
front of the existing building are actually lost they shall be
provided elsewhere in the project.
® AYES: Commissioners Greek, Hart, Mason, Scott
NOES: None
ABSENT: Commissioner Master MOTION CARRIED
IN RE: NEW HEARINGS
ZONE CHANGE 1029 - DAVIDSON AND FERGUSON
Proposed zone change from P (Parking Overlay District) to C-2
(General Business District) on a portion of 2.8 acres situated
on the north side of Chapman Avenue, approximately 265 feet east
from Eckhoff Street.
NOTE: Negative Declaration 961 has been prepared for this project.
® Mr. Lane made the presentation in accordance with the Staff Report
and said that Staff recommends approval; however, it suggests that
the Planning Commission consider that any approval of the plans
should be with the understanding that there will be Design Review
Beard approval of the parking lot primarily because the original
approval of these buildings required a landscaped area along the
north property line on both north and south sides of the wall and
the new project would remove the landscaping on the south side of
the wall. He said that although the. property on the south side
of the wall is the interior parking lot area and therefore up to
the developer to enhance, because it was an issue at the prior
approval the Design Review Board should have the opportunity to
review it again. He said he thinks that in the Design Review
Boa rd .approval consideration should be given to the possibility
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February 20, 1985
Page Seven
of a permanent architectural design feature in the windows on the
proposed west side of the building as it extends for an additional
33 feet. He recommended that louvers be built into the window
design in order to give privacy to the residential property which
abuts this property to the rear and to the west. Vice Chairman
Mason opened the public hearing.
Mitchell Brown of Urban Assist, 3151 Airway Avenue, Costa Mesa,
representing Davidson and Ferguson, the applicant, said his
company has reviewed the Staff Report and concurs with it. He
asked that the architect be given some flexibility on how the
window treatment on the second floor is handled, so that it might
be a louvered window, a high bay window with no visibility access
to the yard next door, or even obscure glass.
Lorena Rudat, 2019 West Chapman Avenue, said that eleven years
ago this month she received a letter from Gary Johnson in which
he said there would be a block wall between her property and the
existing building. She said her property consists of her home
and another home behind it which she ~ents,tor~someone else, bath
zoped R-l',,'arrd she :feels,,that a ~C-2. 1~at next door would b~a_detri-
mental'to her R~1 lots:~and thinks she should also be allowed to
have her zoning changed to C-2. She a1 so complained about a
noisy air conditioner on the property proposed to be redeveloped
and is afraid there will be another noisy air conditioner in the
new portion of the building.
Jim Taylor of Urban Assist said they are rehabilitating office
buildings which are rather old and need to be updated and the
air conditioning problems will be alleviated when new units are
installed. He presented a new design plan showing how the land-
scaping will be upgraded. He said there will be less in and out
traffic as they will be developing an office complex as opposed
to the present medical facility which has a constant come and go
of traffic. He said he feels the entire area will be upgraded
by the new development. Commissioner Greek questioned the gutter
installations in the parking lot. Architect George Seitz,
18023A Sky Park Circle, Irvine, said the paving and the gutter
system will be in accordance with City standards. He said there
will be a landscape median down the middle to create a dramatic
sense of entry and traffic would be one-way on each side of the
median, with the landscaping within the parking area enhanced
from what it is now.
Commissioner Scott asked Mr. Johnson if a block wall was to be
installed as Mrs. Rudat had stated. Mr. Johnson said that if
there was a letter written it would have been referring to the
normal requirement of having a separation between residential
and commercial properties. Mrs. Rudat produced the letter and
said she had also phoned Mr. Johnson many times. Mr. Lane said
there is a block wall in the back between the parking lot and
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February 20, 1985
Page Eight
the residential property. After perusing the letter Mrs. Rudat
handed to him, Mr. Johnson said that there is a block wall
required between commercial zoning and residential zoning. He
said if the property that Mrs. Rudat owns is zoned commercial
but is used as a residence, then that is a different situation
and that may have been the reason why the block wall wasn`t
required. He said he doesn't remember .that far back but normally
if that was the condition of the development it would have been
a requirement of the Conditional Use Permit or whatever other
use permit approval was given for that particular project. He
said he doesn't know about the P-1 property in the rear but he
doesn't believe there's a requirement for P-1 property to have
a block wall separating it from residential property.
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Vice Chairman Mason declared the public hearing closed.
Moved by Commissioner Hart, seconded by Commissioner Greek, that
the Planning Commission accept the findings of the Environmental
Review Board to file Negative Declaration 961.
AYES: Commissioners Greek, Hart, Mason, Scott
NOES: None
ABSENT: Commissioner Master MOTION CARRIED
Commissioner Hart asked how the Planning Commission can get some
assurance that a noisy air conditioner will be baffled or whatever
is necessary to alleviate the noise. Commissioner Greek asked if
a condition can be put on approval of the zone change indicating
that the Planning Commission would like to see the air conditioner
noise muffled and the landscaping plan a part of the application.
Mr, Minshew replied that he doesn't like a condition on a zone
change. .Commissioner Greek suggested that the applicant might
like to volunteer that the air conditioning will be repaired.
Mr. Taylor said that they have no objection to the landscaping
plans being kept in the files by the City Staff to be referred to
as the manner in which they will implement the. landscaping and
also that they will go on record to the effect that the air
conditioning will be attenuated to acceptable City limitations
as to noise.
Moved by Commissioner Hart, seconded by Commissioner Greek, that
the Planning Commission recommend to the City Council that it
approve Zone Change 1029.
AYES: Commissioners Greek, Hart, Mason, Scott
NOES: None
ABSENT: Commissioner Master MOTION CARRIED
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r February 20, 1985
Page Nine
IN RE: NEW HEARINGS
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 1400 - OCTO-M, INC.
Proposed office complex which exceeds the height limit in the C-2
zone at the southwest corner of Town and Country Road and Lawson Way.
NOTE: Negative Declaration 962 has been prepared for this project.
Mr. Lane made the presentation in accordance with the Staff Report
and said that Staff suggests a two-week continuance. He explained
that this property is with the Transportation System Improvement
Project area and that,th~ cities of Orange and Santa Ana have had
discussions about development projects in that area and the impacts
of those projects on transportation and other infrastructure needs
in both cities. He said there is a committee of the Transportation
System Improvement Project that oversees the day-to-day development
® activities in the area, which also has a staff technical advisory
committee. The latter committee,;:°,,~hich donsist~ of Pablic~Works
and Plahning Departments` employees in both Orange and Santa Ana,
met February 15 to discuss this application.,, with the result that
no conclusive decisions or commitments were made by either city.
The City of Santa Ana felt it needed to discuss it further within
their city and indicated to the City of Orange that a report would
be sent in sufficient time for the Planning Commission to make a
decision in a couple of weeks Mr. Lane said Staff feels it must
honor Santa Ana's request for additional time. Vice Chairman Mason
opened the public hearing.
Ehrouze Ehdaie, architect representing the applicant., requested
that there be a deadline set fora response from the City of
Santa Ana, so the applicant would be able to make plans for
proceeding with the development.
Vice Chairman Mason declared the public hearing closed.
Moved by Commissioner Hart, seconded by Commissioner Scott, that
this item be continued to the .meeting of March 4, 1985, and that
® the City of'Santa Ana be requested to reponde by March 1, and if
no answer is received by then it should be considered that their
answer was in the affirmative.
AYES: Commissioners Greek, Hart, Mason, Scott
NOES:. None
ABSENT: Commissioner Master
IN RE: OTHER BUSINESS
MEMORANDUM FROM PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT SERVICES RE REQUEST
FROM MARIE H. JONES, 701 WEST MAPLE STREET
Request for consideration of a modification to Conditional Use
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February 20, 1985
Page Ten
Permit 1207 as approved by the Planning Commission on June 2, 1982.
Mr. Lane made the presentation in accordance with Mrs. Jones'
request as outlined in the memorandum. He said according to State
law Facts #5 and #9 are unenforcible and should not have been made
part of the approval action. He said the real issue is upping the
maximum number of persons from 30 to 32, and that the Building
Inspector and the Fire Department inspection people feel the request
for 32 persons can be implemented. Commissioner Hart asked if this
can be done in an administrative way or must it be done by means
of the noticing process. Mr. Lane said he doesn't think the reso-
lution can be amended without holding another public hearing; Mr.
Minshew agreed.
Moved by Commissioner Greek, seconded by Commissioner Hart, that
proper action be taken by the Planning Department to inform Mrs.
Jones what has to be done to have her request considered.
AYES: Commissioners Greek, Hart, Mason, Scott
NOES: None
ABSENT: Commissioner Master ~ MOTION CARRIED
LETTER FROM FLETCHER COMMITTEE RE HEIGHT OF PROPOSED VOLT BUILDINGS
Mr. Lane made the presentation and said the application from Volt
for an office building complex on 12 acres was received by Staff
some time ago; however, work on the Environmental. Impact Report
is not finished and a draft should be completed within three weeks,
after which there will be a 45-day review perios before it can even
go to public hearings. He detailed the facts of this proposed
deve~ opment to date.
POLICE AKD FIRE DEPARTMENT SECURITY REQUIREMENTS
Vice Chairman Mason asked Commissioner Hart if he wished to discuss
door locks per the memorandum and related attached material received
from Planning and Development Services regarding the standard require-
ments of Police and Fire Departments for Security Purposes on New
Development. Commissioner Hart said he .understood the memo stated
that residential buildings should be equipped with a single cylinder
deadbolt lock and commercial buildings should be equipped with a
double cylinder deadbolt lock, and he recommended filing the memo-
randum. In response to a question from Commissioner Greek regarding
the Fire Department requirement for firefighting equipment, Mr. Lane
said that, per the information in this memorandum, the Fire Depart-
ment stated that in the future it will be more specific about what
it means when a suggested condition regarding firefighting equipment
is recommended.
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February 20, 1985
Page Eleven
IN RE: ADJOURNMENT
The meeting was adjourned at 9:30
meeting on Monday, March 4, 1985,
Council Chambers, 300 East Chapman
p.m. to reconvene to a regular
at.7:30 p.m., at the Civic Center
Avenue, Orange, California.