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`` City of Orange
- Orange, California
June 11, 1984
Monday, 7:30 p.m.
A special meeting of the Orange City Planning Commission was called to order
by Chairman Hart at 7:30 p.m. for the purpose of a public hearing on the Upper
Peters Canyon Specific Plan, General Plan Amendment 2-84-A and Environmental
Impact Report #868.
PRESENT: Commissioners Hart, Greek, Master, Vasquez
ABSENT: Commissioner Mason
STAFF Jere P. Murphy, Administrator of Current Planning and Commission
PRESENT: Secretary; Gary Johnson, City Engineer; Gene Minshew, Assistant
City Attorney; and Toba V. Wheeler, Recording Secretary.
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
The Staff presentation was made by John Lane, Administrator of
Advance Planning. He said the 230-acre specific plan under
consideration is a follow-up on the general plan efforts in 1978
and 1979 in connection with the preparation of the general plan
amendment for the 1600 acres to the east of the City of Orange,
at which time an amendment to the general plan was approved by the
Planning Commission and City Council and adopted. About two years
ago a multi-interest steering committee was formed, which was
responsible for the review process which resulted in the selection
of a planning consultant to prepare the specific plan.
During the past year and a half the steering committee met at
least twelve times to monitor the progress of the specific plan,
joint study sessions were held between the Planning Commission and
the City Council, and numerous discussions were held with service
groups, community organizations, realtors, the Chamber of Commerce,
and concerned individuals. On April 25, 1984, after a presentation
by the consultant, the steering committee recommended to the City
Council that a public hearing should be held, and the City Council
directed Staff to set this public hearing before the Planning
Commission. The property is scheduled for annexation consideration
by the Orange County Local Agency Formation Committee on August 1.
City Staff supports the planning effort and will recommend after
the public hearings that the Planning Commission take the necessary
action to approve the specific plan and so recommend to the City
Council, and also take action to certify the Environmental Impact
Report and to amend the general plan. However, since some letters
on this matter have been received that have not yet been reviewed,
and since the requirements of the EIR are that comments relative
to it be responded to, the recommendation to approve and certify
presumes that there won`t be any action taken at this meeting,
although the recommendation still holds. Staff requests that it
be given at least a week to respond to comments and correspondence.
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Philip Schwartz, planning consultant with the firm of Philli s
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Brandt Reddick, which prepared the specific plan and the EIR,
addressed the Planning Commission on the background of how the
planning study came together and the purpose of the .specific plan
and the EIR. He said the adoption of the general plan by the City
for the 1600 acres which are a portion of The Irvine Company land
in Upper Peters Canyon was the preliminary step to eventual annex-
ation and development, and that this specific plan and EIR is
another step down the road but certainly some way from ultimate
approval. The joint committee concept was agreed to by the City
and The Irvine Company and the County of Orange was invited to
participate due to some regional issues in the area. Mr.. Schwartz
said the purpose of the specific plan and the EIR is to establish
a more detailed land use area and development standards than are
in the general plan. The Irvine Company is not only seeking annex-
ation but also early cancellation of the agricultural preserve,
which is allowed by state law for a proposed development adjacent
to an existing urban area. Although the County is participating
in the study, the approval of the general plan ar~endment, the
adoption of the specific plan, the certification of the EIR, the
annexation, and-the agricultural preserve cancellation are all
future City actions with which the Planning Commission will be
faced. The EIR, which addresses all of those actions with the
specificity of the information available to date, was circulated
on April 27 and has gone for its 45-day review period.
John McKenna, also with Phillips Brandt Reddick,. highlighted the
details~of the specific plan. Using the graphic depictions posted,
he described the four actions that would have to be taken as 1)
identifying the areas that would be the subject of an amendment to
the existing general plan, which is necessary to reconfigure and
reallocate some medium- and high-density areas as well as to estab-
lished the mixed-use area, 2) approval of the specific plan itself
for the 230 acres proposed to be developed, 3) cancellation of the
agricultural preserve, and 4) annexation of the entire 230 acres.
Mr. McKenna said the objectives of the specific plan are: 1) to
implement the 1979 general plan when the urban character and density
of the area were established, but staying within the residential
cap limit of 2,000 dwelling ,units, 2) to insure the balance of public
services and facilities are provided in context with the development
of the land in an orderly and logical extension of the City's
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4) to respond to the variety of local and regional issues and
concerns, and 5) to provide for an opportunity to implement planning
principles with the development and use of the property in both a
residential and a mixed-use context.
Mr. McKenna said the specific plan is both a planning and a
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regulatory tool. The planning is contained in the first two chapters
which give the background and history with respect to this particular
piece of property as well as describing in detail the various compon-
ents, the land use, circulation master plans, various infrastructure
plans, housing programs, public facilities, open space and recreation
plans, and landscape outlines that comprise the heart of the specific
plan. Chapter Three establishes the regulatory mechanism in the same
vein as a zoning ordinance to establish development standards and
controls for the various uses that are identified within the specific
plan, addresses the three categories of residential development as
well as the mixed use areas, and provides a detailed set of standards
that will serve to guide. the development, implementation and use of
the property over time.
Mr. McKenna ,said that the specific plan has evolved over a period of
several months involving the steering committee composed of repre-
sentatives of the City, the County, the school district, .and The ~,
Irvine Company; as well as a technical advisory committee composed
of staff members of these same agencies. These committees explored
a variety of land .uses, residential configurations, commercial
configurations and opportunities, circulation concepts, and infra-
structure concepts, and came up with five alternatives which were
evaluated and trimmed to three, and finally to one preferred alter-
native which was refined in the course of preparation and the draft
review period, culminating in the land use plan that is under
consideration at this meeting.
Mr. McKenna outlined the manner in which the specific plan responds
to local issues and concerns, as follows: 1) the specific measures
necessary to accommodate the project from a traffic standpoint are
indicated within the document as well as the timing with respect to
those improvements, 2) land use compatability is addressed by pro-
vision for a transition of low density areas and an interface with
the county designated regional park, 3) provision is made for a
a drainage plan at Handy Creek and very specific criteria and
standards are established for any future drainage plan, 4) public
services and facilities have been provided for, particularly with
respect to school sites and police and fire facilities, 5) open
space, recreation areas and ~edestri:anb~ eguestraan:a~ld bicycle
trails are provided for, and 6) a phasing program is identified
that addresses the improvements of various streets and infra-
structure systems in concert with the development of the residential
and mixed-use portions of the project.
Mr. McKenna used a map of the proposedproject to point out the
various areas discussed, as well as a chart containing projected
costs and revenues to the City of Orange. He summarized by saying
that the specific plan is the product of months of work by the
steering and technical committees, the City Staff, and consulting
input from the public which was gathered at two public workshops,
and provides for the orderly and logical implementation of the
City`s general plans and policies established five years ago. He
said it responds to the issues that were identified during the course
of the study and establishes the regulatory mechanism to control
the development and use of this property over time.
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Mr. Schwartz ended the presentation by saying that he and other
personnel of Phillips Brandt Reddick will respond to any questions
from either the members of the Planning Commission or the public.
Chairman Hart called for comments from the public at large and said
the City Planning Department had received correspondence from the
Santiago Municipal Advisory Council, Anita and Robert Bennyhoff
and the Orange Park Acres Association, all of which will be made a
part of the record.
Ted Botens, 10802 Meads, Orange, said he had submitted a letter just
prior tb~ this meeting, and requested that it be included within the
45-day limit since the 45th day was a Sunday. Chairman Hart asked
Mr. Schwartz if this letter could be included, Mr. Schwartz said it
could, and Chairman Hart said the letter would become a part of the
record and would be answered by the consultant. Mr. Botens said the
EIR was not clear in three areas of the plan, namely: 1) Was the
impact of the future Santiago Community College considered in the
traffic studies, 2) what impact will the ultimate traffic have on
the ability of residents of the Orange Park Acres area to get into
Irvine Park and what provision will be made to assure easy access
to the park,-and 3) since it appears that the developer of the area
i§ required only not to do any more damage than has already been
done regarding drainage in the area, how is .the current status of
the drainage problems going to be defined and what criteria will
be used to define whether additional damage exceeds what is already
there.
Al Bender, 1659 Gymkana Street, Orange, discussed the current life-
style within Orange Park Acres and objected to the so-called progress
that will bring two roads, freeways, traffic signals, traffic bottle-
necks, 2,000 dwelling units in an area no larger than Orange Park
Acres, 60-foot high buildings, etc., and said that Orange Park Acres
will become a City island subject to external non-local traffic.
He said he believes The Irvine Company's figures on drainage are
100% incorrect and the the proposed plan puts high density, a park
and a school right in the path of drainage and does away with the
natural collection basin. He said the school site will_be under water
three months of the year and every time there has been afire in
the area it comes down right through the site for which high density
is planned. He said he would like to see a constructive plan, not
one that is destructive to the area.
Robert Bennyhoff, 10642 Morada Drive, Orange, said his letter speaks
for itself but wished to add an additional item, that of the proposed
two-lanes of Weir Canyon Road from Chapman Avenue to I-5. He said he
read all the documents and can't find more than a hundred words on
this key ingredient of the proposed development, with no mention of
where on Chapman Avenue this proposed two-lane road will hook in.
® He commented also that there is no mention about the impact this
proposed development is going to have on Orange Park Boulevard,
which will undoubtedly be used as an alternative to Chapman Avenue
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when the traffic builds up on that street and he feels the residents
of Orange Park Acres are entitled to know what will happen since
Orange Park Boulevard is the only road that bisects their community.
Patricia P. Seman, member of the Santiago Municipal Advisory Council,
said this organization does not find the EIR adequate and urges that
approval not be given because it will result in an unfavorable impact
on the areas of Tustin along Newport Boulevard. The organization
feels that the EIR does not address the matter of flood water flowing
southward into the City of Tustin or the matter of increased traffic
along Newport Boulevard if it is changed to a major arterial, not only
in relation to the parking facilities for office buildings in the
area but also because of the many residential accesses off of Newport
Boulevard-that would become hazardous, especially to school children,
with the increase of traffic.
Gera]d Podolak, 1186 Ridgeline Avenue, Orange, asked what will happen
next and asked the Planning Commission to consider future policy
very strongly.. He said there are 20,000 acress left in the sphere
of influence, most of which is the property of The Irvine Company,
and he is wondering why itiwants to develop this particular 240 acres
now when they also own 15,00 flatland acres along the Santa Ana
freeway which could be developed without so many problems such as
those found in canyon areas. He also objected to The Irvine Company
using Weir Canyon to dig sand and gravel because the land would be
decimated and never reclaimed. He asked again why this piece of
land, what do the current residents of the area get out of it, why
now, and what will the future be like.
Juan Pablo Serrano-Nieblas, 224 North Olive Street, Orange, pointed
out the danger of earthquakes and floods in the area and said he is
concerned about the environmental impace of the proposed development.
He requested the Planning Commission to think about the danger to
high density areas and school sites from flooding and earthquakes
if it decides to approve this plan which he feels does not address
any of the major concerns of the people now living in the area.
Hugh Davenport, 1136 East Collins, Orange, pointed out the growth of
the City of Orange in the time since he had built his home and said
he feels that growth is inevitable but hopes that in considering
future development the Planning Commission will keep in mind that
there should be a balance in the land use in the area. He feels
care should be taken so the area doesn't end up being strictly
residential, with ..aggravated.. traffic problems and. no provisrion for
local employment. He said also that he felt a better land use mix
should be provided to insure a better tax base.
Chairman Hart asked Mr. Schwartz to respond to the concerns that were
verbally expressed. Mr. Schwartz said he had made a list of all the
® concerns expressed and could probably best respond by taking all this
information as well as the concerns expressed in the correspondence
and preparing responses in a report after the accurate information
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~ ~ had been obtained, since he felt it would be inappropriate to reply
during this meeting without this research and preparation.
Chairman Hart said it was obvious that the consultant should have
time to prepare the response to the questions and therefore it
appeared that the hearing should be continued.
Commissioner Greek asked Bob Rende, Manager of the Project Planning
Division of the Orange County Environmental Management Agency, if
he could give any; information on the status of the klandy.Creek study
being conducted by this agency. Mr. Rende responded that the study
was just getting started, not only because of .priorities of~~otherr
projects but also because the issue of Handy Creek has only materialed
with the study under consideration at this meeting. He said their
plan in to proceed with looking at alternatives, which they should
be able to bring before the Board of Supervisors by the early part
of next year, and that they will work quickly knowing that the
issue is' getting more critical.
Commissioner Greek asked if there is any possibility that Peters
Canyon Reservoir can flow to the south and if so, how high the water would
® have to go to do that. Mr. Rende responded that he thought Mr.
Schwartz might have to address that question; however he gave a
little history on the reservoir, including its spillway and dam,
and said it had not been planned to release any significant flow.
He said that the County's plan calls for this reservoir to drain
out towards Handy Creek just as it has done for the last 50 years.
Moved by Commissioner Greek, seconded by Commissioner Vasquez, that
the Planning Commission ask-Staff and the consultant to prepare
responses to the questions and have their report ready for the
meeting of Monday, June 18, 1984.
AYES: Commissioners Hart, Greek, Master, Vasquez
NOES: None
ABSENT: Commissioner Mason MOTION CARRIED
IN RE: ADJOURNMENT
The meeting was adjourned at 9:00 p.m., to be reconvened to a
regular meeting on Monday, June 18, 1984, at 7:30 p.m., at the
Civic Center Council Chambers,. 300 East Chapman Avenue, Orange,
® California.