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City of Orange
Orange, California
June 15 , 198?
Monday - ?: 30 p. m.
The regular meeting of the City of Orange Planning Commission was
called to order by Chairman Greek at 7:30 p. m.
PRESENT: Commissioners Bosch, Greek, Hart, Scott
ABSENT: Commissioner Master
STAFF
PRESENT: Jack McGee, Associate Planner & Acting Commission
Secretary;
Ron Thompson, Director of Community Development;
Gene Minshew, Assistant City Attorney;
Gary Johnson, City Engineer; and
Sue Devlin, Recording Secretary
IN RE: MINUTES OF JUNE 1 1987
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
Moved by Commissioner Hart, seconded by Commissioner
Bosch, that the Planning Commission approve the Minutes of
June 1, 1987 as recorded.
AYES: Commissioners Bosch, Greek, Hart, Scott
NOES: None
ABSENT: Commissioner Master MOTION CARRIED
IN RE: NEW HEARINGS
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 1596 - SIINO:
Proposed development of a two-story second unit within the
R-2-6 <RCD) <Residential Duplex - Residential Combining
District) zone located on the west side of Grand Street,
north of LaVeta Avenue <4?8 S. Grand Street).
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NOTE: This project is exempt from Environmental Review.
A staff report was not presented.
The public hearing was opened.
Scott Siino, 478 South Grand, was ready to answer any
questions about the project.
Nicky Calagna, 1135 East Culver, spoke in favor of the
application because she thinks the property owner should
have the same right that was afforded to the other people
in the surrounding area with the same type of project.
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Chairman Greek stated Mrs. Calagna also submitted a
letter, which will be attached to the project file.
Corrine Schreck, 446 North James, was in favor of this
project being built; has seen his property and thinks it
looks very nice.
The public hearing was closed.
Commissioner Hart made a passing comment that did nat
strictly apply to the project, but to most of the projects
being reviewed by the Commission; that is, the north and
south elevations on the buildings. This project has no
windows on either side. They are becoming architectural
monstrosities because of the requirement of windows
overlooking side yards. This seems to be the trend.
Commissioner Bosch shares the same view. He appreciates
the preservation of the privacy to the neighbors, but
thinks it would be nice if they could encourage applicants
to work more closely, perhaps through the Design Review
Board or at least with the consultants, to arrive at
buildings that are not only featuring the materials of Old
Towne, but also some of the details to bring Old Towne
more closely in line with the previously existing
buildings. The proposed building respects privacy, but it
is quite plain.
Moved by Commissioner Hart, seconded by Commissioner
Bosch, that the Planning Commission approve Conditional
Use Permit 1596 subject to the seven conditions contained
in the staff report.
AYES: Commissioners Bosch, Greek, Hart, Scott
NOES: None
ABSENT: Commissioner Master MOTION CARRIED
IN RE: NEW HEARINGS -
ZONE CHANGE 1070, VARIANCE 1812 DOPP 8s CURL DEVELOPMENT
COMPANY:
Request to change the zoning from R-2-6 and R-3 to
R-2-6<P> (Residential Duplex - Parking Overlay) and reduce
the depth of the landscape setback adjacent to the public
street in conjunction with development of a two story
office building on the southwest corner of Chapman Avenue
and Citrus Street.
NOTE: Negative Declaration 1148 has been prepared for
this project.
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A staff report was requested and presented by Jack McGee.
Staff has received a modified site plan which deletes the
need for the variance. The property in question is a half
acre site made up of two separate parcels. The parcel on
the corner has a C-2 commercial zone on it; the parcel to
the rear of that has a split zoning. A portion of it is
zoned R-2 and a portion of it is zoned R-3. Surrounding
uses and zoning are as follows: To the south on Citrus is
additional R-2 zoning, primarily with single family
residential uses. To the west, north and east are C-2
zoned properties with a variety of commercial uses. The
Commission will recall that a zone change, conditional use
permit and variance were filed on the site some months
ago. The zone change was the same as the one being heard
at this meeting. The conditional use permit was a request
to increase permitted height on the property from 30 to 38
feet. And the variance was a request to reduce the
required side yard setbacks for the building itself, as
well as the parking area. The application being heard now
is again the zone change. It is geared towards allowing a
9,800 square foot, two story, 30 foot maximum height
office structure. The building itself does conform to all
the development standards in terms of setbacks and height.
The request has been modified. A site plan was received
Friday afternoon. The mayor changes on the site plan is a
modification of the parking lot layout. An effort was
made to delete the need for the variance requirement. In
doing so, the landscape setback adjacent to Citrus was
increased. The City standard for setbacks are 10 feet in
the commercial zone, which would apply to the two most
northerly parking stalls adjacent to the street. The
current plan shows an 8 foot setback. The residential
duplex with parking overlay <the bulk of the parking lot>
requires a 15 foot setback adjacent to the street. The
proposal shows a 12 foot setback. Both of the setbacks
provided on the revised plan are within 20% of the City
standard, and therefore, are allowed to be processed under
an administrative adjustment as opposed to a full
variance. The applicant is requesting a withdraw of that
variance application and a request for the Commission's
approval of the administrative adjustment.
A letter was also received from an adjacent property
owner. Mr. Fasbender has addressed Condition ? on the
staff report regarding the reciprocal access. The way the
condition on the variance is worded, it would require a
future reciprocal access to be provided at some future
point when the two uses on the properties would be of a
compatible nature. Those conditions on the variance could
be applied to the administrative adjustment.
The ublic hearin was o ened.
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Jerry King, Jerry King 8a Associates, 3187 Airway, Costa
Mesa, represented the applicant. The developer, Craig
Curl, was present in the audience, as well as Mr. Selman,
the architect. Mr. Phil West who represents current
property owner and his legal counsel were also present to
resolve any issues or concerns. Mr. King stated Mr. McGee
thoroughly covered his presentation in the staff report.
The proposed project is located in the Southwest
Redevelopment area. They would like to withdraw the
request for the variance. The building will house a
Federally chartered credit union. Landscaping and the
masonry wall will be constructed as provided by the
conditions of approval to provide additional insulation
and protection of adjacent neighbors. Proposed uses are
in conformance with the General Plan and meet all the
zoning designations.
With respect to Condition 7 in the variance, they have no
difficulty with the Commission applying the conditions as
outlined, with the exception of Condition 7 be applied to
future uses on the adjacent parcel. They feel it is
counter productive to permit the present uses to take
access to the site as it will be redeveloped for the
pro,j ect .
Mr. McGee stated staff would require with a future
reciprocal access easement to record a future reciprocal.
It grants one side the reciprocal access now. When the
adjacent property owner would grant the other side of the
reciprocal agreement, it would be complete. That would
not happen until the City requested it take place at
redevelopment of the property.
Craig Curl, 1717 South State College Blvd., Anaheim,
principal of Dopp & Curl Development. He was born and
raised in the Orange area and is a resident of Orange.
Due to the complexities of the property's size, shape and
adjoining uses, it is a very difficult piece of property
to develop. The design work meets the criteria for the
community's needs and the City's. The building will
become the home and headquarters of an Orange/Santa Ana
based credit union. This building is aesthetically
designed and pleasing to the eye that will stand out in
the West Chapman area. The building itself will be of a
brick or tale paver on a stucco base, with the application
of glass paneled corners and an elevation to give a look
on both Chapman Avenue and Citrus Street. They feel this
will greatly enhance the area of West Chapman and will
give Orange a beautiful new building.
Those speaking in opposition:
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Refugio Sanchez, 131 North Citrus, questioned if a credit
union would be the type of business to generate a lot of
traffic. Over f low of traffic is a concern to him. I t
would be an infringement on the residents in the
neighborhood. He was also concerned about the block wall
fence blocking air flowlcross ventilation.
Commissioner Hart responded to Mr. Sanchez's concerns
regarding traffic. A building by City code requires 39
spaces, which is being provided. Parking is not the issue
anymore. The location of the building is quite a distance
from the residences.
Mr. McGee stated it is about 120 feet or more from the
building itself.
Mary Sanchez, 131 North Citrus, is concerned with the
hours of the proposed business. Currently there is no
available parking in the afternoon hours.
Chairman Greek said they could not place any restrictions
on the use of the office building.
Jerry King had no rebuttal, but wanted to add some
additional information to relieve the local residents.
Credit unions have non peak hours of operation similar to
a bank. He hopes the residents will not experience heavy
traffic. The large tree on the property will be
maintained. The other vegetation that will be added will
blend with the existing landscaping of the area. The wall
will be on the property line, but the added landscaping
and trees will reduce the impact of having a commercial
building in a residential community.
The public hearing was closed.
Moved by Commissioner Bosch, seconded by Commissioner
Scott, that the Planning Commission recommend to the City
Council to accept the findings of the Environmental Review
Board to file Negative Declaration 1148.
AYES: Commissioners Bosch, Greek, Hart, Scott
NOES: None
ABSENT: Commissioner Master MOTION CARRIED
Moved by Commissioner Bosch, seconded by Commissioner
Scott, that the Planning Commission recommend to the City
Council to approve Zone Change 1070 and approve the
administrative adjustment to reduce landscape setbacks on
Citrus Street ad,~acent to the parking area a maximum of
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20% and attach the conditions listed in the staff report
except for #7 to that.
AYES: Commissioners Bosch, Greek, Hart, Scott
NOES: None
ABSENT: Commissioner Master MOTION CARRIED
IN RE: NEW HEARINGS
REVOCATION OF CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 1543 - YMCA OF
ORANGE:
Commissioner Bosch excused himself from the meeting.
Public hearing to consider revocation of a previous
approval for the YMCA of Orange allowing bingo games at
facilities on the north side of Palmyra Avenue, west of
Yorba Street.
There was no staff report on this item.
The public hearing was opened and closed with no audience
participation.
Moved by Commissioner Scott, seconded by Commissioner
Hart, that the Planning Commission revoke Conditional Use
Permit 1543 at the request of the YMCA.
AYES: Commissioners Greek, Hart, Scott
NOES: None
ABSTAINED: Commissioner Bosch
ABSENT: Commissioner Master MOTION CARRIED
Commissioner Bosch returned to the meeting.
IN RE: NEW HEARINGS
ORDINANCE AMENDMENT 3-87 - CITY OF ORANGE:
Proposed amendment to the City of Orange Zoning Ordinance
establishing proper locations and development standards
for Senior Citizens Housing Developments.
NOTE: Negative Declaration 1153 has been prepared for
this pro,~ect.
Joan Wolff, Assistant Planner, gave a brief summary on the
proposed development standards and processing procedures
contained in the draft ordinance. The key issue that was
identified was affordability. The ordinance was to
provide a reduction of development standards to make
senior housing less costly to build and still meet the
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needs of senior residents. Housing could then be made
available to tenants at a lower cost. There are several
sections of State law that specifically address senior
housing and those were taken into account in putting
together the ordinance amendment. The ordinance is
designed to comply with State requirements. Reference has
been made to those sections being complied with in the
draft ordinance. The mayor concessions listed are in unit
sizes and parking spaces required for development
standards. Minimum age requirement will be 55 years in
projects containing 150 or more units; and 62 years in any
other senior development. One of the procedures staff is
recommending is a conditional use permit be required for
any senior project so that the site's specific criteria
can be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. It is also
recommended that deed restrictions be imposed on senior
projects so there would not be an impact at a later time
if a project were converted from a senior to a standard
apartment. Density bonuses and regulatory concessions
were also addressed. State law provides that any senior
project is eligible for a 25% density bonus. Staff is
proposing that if a developer would like more than a 25%
density bonus or would like the reduction in development
standards, a provision for affordable units would be
required.
Commissioner Bosch commended staff for their work in
providing the basic standards for development in the
ordinance to assure that there is better compatibility
between the developer and existing neighborhoods.
The public hearing .was opened.
Nicky Calagna, 1135 East Culver, questioned the further
affordability over and beyond the 25% density bonus that
is allowable under State code. Would a developer be able
to use the finders/keepers program? The Housing set aside
funds will not always be available.
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Commissioner Hart explained the County
housing program.
Commissioner Scott assumed Mrs. Calagna was asking if the
bonus density could be increased.
Chairman Greek thought a developer could come in and ask
for a greater density bonus than 25% through the
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Mrs. Calagna stated this was not clear and it should be
form for this type of mechanism.
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Bob Nickelson, 328 North Glassell, feels staff has done a
very professional fob on the ordinance amendment. He
understands that if you limit the project to seniors,
there is an automatic density bonus of 25%. In addition
to that, if the developer offers at least 25% affordable
units, then the City must grant the developer a density
bonus, which means a 50% density bonus out of limiting to
seniors and providing 25% affordability.
Mr. McGee understands the State law, as it is worded, that
it allows a 25% density bonus in two conditions; either
for a seniors project or for an affordable project -- not
both. In a normal apartment project, if it is designed
for seniors and if it is designed to normal City apartment
standards, the City would allow a 25°!° increase by a
conditional use permit. If the density bonus is in excess
of the 25%, the City would require that it provide a
certain percentage of affordable units, but a double
density bonus would not be required.
Chairman Greek stated the additional 25% would be
negotiable under a conditional use permit.
Mr. Nickelson further inquired about the R-3, O-P, and C-P
shall use the R-3 standards. And the projects in R-4,
C-1, C-2 and C-3 shall use the R-4 standards. In other
words, if a senior project is proposed for a commercial
zone, either R-3 or R-4 site development standards will be
used. Does that include the maximum density of 24 to the
acre indicated by the General Plan?
Mr. McGee stated that will be a reference point to start
from.
Mr. Nickelson thinks the base parking ratio of 1 to 1 is
a little high. Nation wide the actual need is .5 to 1.
If the requirement is too high and results in a
dis-incentive, the project might not be built.
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Commissioner Hart feels if the Palmyra Hotel is built,
will be a test project for the parking ratio. This was
based on a political decision.
Bob Bennyhoff, 10642 Morada Drive, Orange Park Acres, was
curious as to how this was going to be handled in the
planned community zones because they have P-C's. He
presumes there will be senior housing in East Orange. How
will senior housing fit in to a P-C zone?
Commissioner Hart stated all projects will be reviewed
through a conditional use permit.
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Mr. McGee addressed the issue. Even though there is a P-C
zone, there still is a City General Plan. Any use would
have to be in conformance with that General Plan. A P-C
zone is applied to a large piece of property for which
there is also a Specific Plan. In that Specific Plan
approval uses would be designated in proper locations.
When such a project is proposed, it could be stated that
project would conform to the regulations of the City
ordinance addressing seniors projects.
The public hearing was closed.
Moved by Commissioner Hart, seconded by Commissioner
Scott, that the Planning Commission recommend to the City
Council to accept the findings of the Environmental Review
Board to file Negative Declaration 1153.
AYES:' Commissioners Bosch, Greek, Hart, Scott
NOES: None
ABSENT: Commissioner Master MOTION CARRIED
Moved by Commissioner Bosch, seconded by Commissioner
Hart, that the Planning Commission recommend to the City
Council to approve Ordinance Amendment 3-87.
AYES: Commissioners Bosch, Greek, Hart, Scott
NOES: None
ABSENT: Commissioner Master MOTION CARRIED
IN RE: OTHER ITEMS
1. Planning Association Conference: Commissioners Greek
and Scott will be attending.
2. Transportation Committee: Commissioner Scott needed
an alternate to attend Thursday night's meeting, June
18, 7:00 p. m. Commissioner Bosch will represent the
Planning Commission at that meeting.
It was also suggested to designate Commissioner Bosch
as the alternate on a permanent basis.
3. Gary Johnson brought up Tract 12711, Lyon Company
protect. There are several setback issues not given
variances at that time. Staff is having problems with
the requirements: setbacks of less than 8 feet or at
least 23 feet. The setbacks are measured from the
curb line; not from the right of way line. The Lyon
Company has solved all the setback problems except
one. Planning staff does not feel a variance is in
order. He has been asked to issue an encroachment
permit. He asked the Commission for some direction.
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~`"'"""~ Commissioner Hart feels this is a self-imposed
hardship and the City should not get involved.
Mr. McGee said this was the tract that was originally
subdivided by Irvine-Pacific. They did provide with
that approval a site plan which had houses on each of
the lots, which did comply with the development
standards. The project was later sold to another
developer - the Lyon Company - who then put their own
house footprints on those lots. The Commission saw a
revised tentative map in February where they changed
most of the lot configurations. At that time staff
pointed out Lot 38 as being the one which did not
conform to those development standards and stated a
variance or some unique house footprint be required
before they could get a permit for that. They do not
have time to process a variance.
Commissioner Greek does not think the City should
expose themselves by granting an encroachment permit.
Further, he feels this is a self-imposed hardship.
IN RE: ADJOURNMENT
The meeting was adjourned at 8:50 p. m., to reconvene at a
regular meeting on July 6, 1987, at ?:30 p. m.
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