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City of Orange June 16, 1986
Orange, California Monday, 7:30 p.m.
The regular meeting of the City of Orange Planning Commission was called to order
by Chairman Mason at 7:30 p.m.
PRESENT: Commissioners Mason,-Greek, Hart, Master, Scott
ABSENT: None
STAFF Stan Soo-Hoo, Administrator of Current Planning and Commission
PRESENT:. Secretary; Jack McGee, Associate Planner; Furman Roberts, City
Attorney; Gary Johnson, City Engineer; and Toba V. Wheeler,
Recording Secretary.
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
IN RE:
0
AYES:
NOES:
IN RE:
MINUTES OF JUNE 2, 1986
Commissioner Greek corrected the last paragraph of these minutes
to show that the Study Seseion of June 5, 7986, would be held at
a restaurant, not in the Civic Center Council Chambers. Moved by
Commissioner Master, seconded by Commissioner Scott, that the
minutes of June 2, 1986, be approved as corrected.
Commissioners Mason, Greek, Hart, Master, Scott
None
CONTINUED HEARINGS
TENTATIVE TRACT 12711- IRVINE PACIFIC
MOTION CARRIED
Proposed subdivision of 114 single-family residential lots within a
`14.57-acre parcel located on the south side of Chapman Avenue, east
of .Newport Avenue, (This item was continued from the June 2, 1986,
Planning Commission meeting.)
Since there was no one in the audience who wished to oppose the
approval of Tentative Tract 12711, the Staff presentation was
dispensed with.
Chairman Mason opened the public hearing.
David Dirienzo, Project Manager. for Irvine Pacific, 610 Newport
Center Drive, Newport Beach,. California 92660, made a brief pres-
entation, giving the history of this project to date. He pointed
out an additional access point. He said he agrees with all condi-
tions of the Staff Report except No. 13, and said the applicant is
willing to have a looped water system rather than a 20' easement.
Commissioner Hart questioned Mr. Johnson regarding this and Mr.
Johnson replied that he thinks this can be worked out. Mr. Dirienzo
said the applicant is working with the Water Department to accomplish
this.
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Chairman Mason declared the public hearing closed.
Chairman Mason questioned the single public vehicle entrance into
the tract. Mr. Johnson said Staff feels that the ideal configur-
ation for the tract would provide two public vehicle access points.
He said the applicant has come up with a proposal which has an
alternative which would be acceptable. Mr. Soo-Hoo said the City
Manager appointed a Task Force to look into this matter and it
agreed that as far as development of tracts is concerned, each
tract should have two points of access.
Commissioner Hart asked if this meant one regularly-used access
and one emergency access. Mr. Soo-Hoo responded that it means two
regularly used accesses. Discussion held on this resulted in the
recommendation that there should be a dedicated pub'iic street
across Handy Creek. Commissioner Scott pointed out that the maps
are not dated, so it is difficult to determine which is the most
recent map. Mr, Soo-Hoo said The Irvine Company is proposing two
access points and the most recent proposal is for 113 lots with an
access to Chapman Avenue.
Mr. Johnson said he feels access would be okay with only a right
turn in and a right turn out of the tract. Mr. Dirienze said he
feels the site itself doesn't warrant two exits and pointed out
that residents might use them as a shoat cut; also that children
wouldip1ay in the cul-de-sacs and access there might be a problem.
Commissioner Hart said it appears that The Irvine Company really
wants only one access but the City insists on two. Mr. Dirienzo
said they will provide only one regular access but will also
provide two emergency access points. Bob Bennyhoff, 10642 La
Mirada Drive., Orange Park Acres.; expressed his dissatisfaction
with what is going on and asked who has control of the development,
the City or The Irvine Company.
Moved by Commissioner Greek, seconded by Commissioner Hart, that
the Planning Commission recommend that the City Council approve
Tentative Tract 12711 subject to conditions in the Staff Report.
dated June 5 ,1986, with the deletion of Condition No. 13, and
adding a condition that the roadway indicated on the map submitted
to the Planning Commission at this meeting (date of map unknown)
shall be required to be a dedicated road with a right turn in and
a right turn out.
AYES: Commissioners Mason, Greek, Hart, .Master; Scott
NOES: None MOTION CARRIED
Commissioner Greek said he is disappointed with the Staff Report
dated June 12, 1986, received by the Planning Commission. He said
he feels Staff owes the Planning Commission the courtesy of
submitting an updated map.
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IN RE: NEW HEARINGS
TENTATIVE TRACT 12672 - WILLIAM LYON COMPANY/GRENIER ENGINEERING
Proposed subdivision of 139 single-family residential lots within
a 31.91racre parcel located on the east side of Newport Avenue
south of Chapman Avenue.
Since there was no one in the audience who wished to Appose the
approval of Tentative Tract 12672, the Staff presentation was
dispensed with.
Chairman Mason opened the public hearing.
Bi11 Soto, of the William Lyon Company, said he agreed with the
Staff Report and accepts the conditions,
Chairman Mason declared the public hearing closed.
Commissioner Greek asked if the City Engineering Department is happy
with the width of "A" Street. Mr. Johnson said the 52'-wide street
gives parking on both sides, plus the width needed.
Chairman Mason questioned the area where "B" Street comes onto
Newport and said she is worried about merging traffic. Mr. Johnson
said that initially this won't be a problem but subsequent signalizing
may have an affect on it. Commissioner Scott suggested using "C"
Street. .Commissioner Hart pointed out that the grading at "C" Street
might be present a problem to its use.
Moved by Commissioner Hart, seconded by Commissioner Master, that
the Planning Commission recommend to the City Council that it
approve Tentative Tract 12672 for the reasons stated in the Staff
Report and subject to Conditions 1 through 19 in the Staff Report.
AYES: Commissioners. Mason, Greek, Hart, Master, Scott
NOES:. None MOTION CARRIED
IN RE: NEW HEARINGS
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 1518 ,LONG
Proposed development of a two story structure in the RD-6 (RCD) Zone
on a 6,800-square foot parcel located on the north side of Van Bibber
Avenue east of Shaffer Street (551 E, Van Bibber Avenue).
NOTE:.. This project is exempt from Environmental Review.
Mr. McGee made the presentation in accordance with the Staff Report
and said Staff recommends approval. He said a letter from the
applicant indicates he is intending to cease the operation of a
County day care center operation on the property.
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Chairman Mason opened the public hearing.
Kenneth Long, 1882.2 Fowler Avenue, Santa Ana, the applicant, spoke
in favor of allowing this project to proceed. He said he has no
problems with, the conditions in the Staff Report and will work
with Staff in any way..
Peggy Berry, 559 East Van Bibber Avenue, Orange, said she is opposed
to this project because it would change the old world charm of the
neighborhood and would interfere with privacy on her property as the
alley between her property and Mr. Long'siproperty is very narrow,
al~'1owing anyone in the looking out the window of the second story
of the proposed structure would be able to look down on and into
her back yard.
Mr. Long said he understands from Staff that the alley will be
widened,. Mr, Johnson said the City is prepared to make it a one-way
alley if a problem arises.
Chairman Mason declared the public hearing closed.
Commissioner Master asked. if the windows of the proposed structure
can be changed. Mr. Long said he plans to screen the windows with
landscaping. Chairman Mason asked for Mr. Longs exhibits for the
proposed structure and said that it appears that the kitchen window
will be over a corner sink, the bathroom window is frosted and the
bedroom windows will be too high for anyone to look out of them.
Ms. Berry was shown these exhibits and said she still doesn't like
the proposed structure as it will be built only five feet from the
fence between the two properties.
Chairman Mason declared the public hearing closed.
Moved by Commissioner Greek, seconded by Commissioner Scott, that
the Planning Commission approve Conditional Use Permit 1518 for
the reasons stated in the Staff Report and subject to the conditions
in the Staff Report.
Commissioner Master said he thinks the height of the building is
Within that allowed for second story buildings and suggested that
® minor alterations be made to cut down the neighbor`s objections;.
for instance, move the kitchen window and cut the bedroom window
to 1' instead of 2`. He offered this suggestion as an amendment
to the motion. Commissioners Greek and Scott accepted this as an
amendment. Commissioner Scott also pointed out that the design
of the proposed structure would have to be accepted by the Design
Review Board,
The vote on the amended motion was taken,~with the following result.
AYES: Commissioners Mason, Greek, Hart, Master, Scott
NOES: None MOTION CARRIED
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Mr. Soo-Hoo pointed out that this action is final unless it is
appealed to the City Council within fifteen days.
IN RE: NEW HEARINGS
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 1516 - STEVE ROLLAND FOR THE STRAIGHT
SHOOTER, INC.
Proposed commercial recreational use within the M-2 (Industrial)
Zone on the east side of Enterprise Street, north of Grove Avenue.
NOTE: Negative Declaration 1076 has been prepared for this project.
Since (here was no one .in the audience who wished to oppose the
approval of Conditional Use Permit 1516, the Staff .presentation
was dispensed with,
Chairman Mason opened the public hearing.
® Steve Rolland, 1304 Catalina Street, Orange,-the applicant, gave an
overview of the project. He said the proposed business would give
classes in shooting, safety,-efficiency,-and responsibility with
owning and shooting a firearm. He said a71 five owners of Straight
Shooter, Tnc „ are police related, either current or former police
officers, or in the police reserve. Mr. Rolland said he feels this
business would be a community service and would provide a family-
oriented environment. He said he understands and agrees with the
conditions in the Staff Report.
Chairman Mason declared the public hearing closed.
Moved by Commissioner Greek, seconded by Commissioner Hart, that the
Planning Commission accept the findings of the Environmental Review
Board to file Negative Declaration 1076.
AYES: Commissioners Mason, Greek, Hart, Master, Scott
NOES: None MOTION CARRIED
Moved by Commissioner Greek, seconded by Commissioner Scott, that
the Planning Commission approve Conditional Use Permit 1576 subject
to the conditions in the Staff Report, deleting Conditions No. 1
and No. 7.
Off.i:cer Rand of the Orange Police Department said the Police
Department is concerned about the parking plan (Condition No, 1)
because i:f .peop`~le are walking i_niwith guns the Police Department
wants them to park by the building and not in some other area of
the parking lot. Commissioner Greek said this condition will be
so difficult to enforce that he just can`t agree with it.
The vote was taken with the fo'11owing result:..
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AYES: Commissioners Greek, Hart, Scott
NOES: Commissioners Mason, Master
IN RE: NEW HEARINGS
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 1519 ~ VILLAGE INVESTMENTS
MOTION CARRIED
Proposed hotel to include 25% kitchen units within the C-2 Zone on
a 19.43-acre parcel located on the west side of The City Drive
north of Garden Grove Boulevard,
NOTE: Negative Declaration 1074 has been prepared for this project.
Commissioner Greek asked to be excused because of possible conflict
of interest.
Since there was no one in the audience who wished to oppose the
approval of Conditional Use Permit 1519, the Staff presentation
was dispensed with. It was noted, however, that a letter of
opposition had been received from Vera Vigil;-1740 Loretta Lane,
Santa Ana, California 92706.
Chairman Mason opened the public hearing.
Bruce Bearer, Nexus Development, Irvine, California, gave a brief
description of the project. Mark Dorian, Village Investments,
1176 Main Street, Irvine, California, discussed the proposed
business all-suite hotel. He said it is proposed primarily for the
use of businessmen for meetings and conferences and it is infeasible
that the rooms which-will have kitchens could every be used as
apartments. He said he agrees with all the conditions in the Staff
Report except for Condition No. 17, regarding fire-fighting equipment,
which he is questioning. He said the Fire Department representative
told Mr. Pauley of Village Investments that everything is acceptable.
He said he is confused by the need for 2000' of durapacked hose and
two 3000-watt portable generators.
Moved by Commissioner Master; seconded by Commissioner Hart, that
the Planning Commission accept the findings of the Environmental,
Review Board to file Negative Declaration 1074.
AYES: Commissioners Mason, Hart, Master, Scott
NOES: None
ABSENT: Commissioner Greek MOTION CARRIED
Moved by Commissioner Master, seconded by Commissioner Scott,-that
the Planning Commission approve Conditional Use Permit 1519 for the
reasons stated in the Staff Report and subject to the conditions in
the Staff Report.
Commissioner Hart said he wasn`t happy with Condition No. 17 and
feels this is a devious way for the fire department to get equip-
ment; that if it needs money it should ask for it. He asked where
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this equipment will be stored and if Village Investments has to
furnish a place to store it. A representative of the Orange Fire
Department said the equipment can be stored on the site if the
applicant has a place for it, or it can be stored by the Fire
Department which will promise to use it for this property.
Commissioners Hart suggested an alternate for Condition No. 17,
that either equipment or an equal value in cash be given to the
Fire Department. Commissioners Master and Scott accepted this.
AYES: Commissioners Mason, Hart, Master, Scott
NOES: None
ABSENT: Commissioner Greek MOTION CARRIED
IN RE: MISCELLANEOUS
Boundary readjustment for Amendment No. 1 to the Southwest Project
Area,
Commissioners Greek and Hart asked to be excused due to possible
conflict of interesti..
Ron Thompson, Director of the Orange Redevelopment Agency, said
the City Council had removed eminent domain from that partl~of the
Redevelopment Project area shown on Assessor`s Map 390-6.74-06
referring to 510-512 West Chapman and relating to 16 owners of
35 parcels on slightly over eight acres.
William Warren, 400 East Chapman, Orange, said he would like to
receive copies of all materials referring to this matter. At his
suggestion, Mr. Roberts read Section 3353.5 of the Health and
Safety Code.
Bob Peterson, 360 Ho7lister,~Orange, said he objects to the entire
redevelopment plan, that the City Council and Planning Commission
are pro-developer, and that he thinks the entire redevelopment
project is poorly planned.
Moved by Commissioner Scott, seconded by Commissioner Master, that
the Planning Commission approve the resolution designating adjusted
boundaries for the proposed redevelopment plan Amendment No. One
to the Southwest Redevelopment Plan, provided that deletion of
property shall be subject to submission of reasonably satisfactory
evidence that the person seeking deletion of the property is the
owner of that property.
AYES: Commissioners Mason, Master, Scott
NOES: None
ABSENT: Commissioners Greek, Hart MOTION CARRIED
Moved by Commissioner Scott, seconded by Commissioner Master, that
the Planning Commission approve the resolution that the proposed
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Redevelopment Plan Amendment No. One to the Southwest Redevelopment
Plan conforms to the General Plan for the City of Orange and recom-
mend approval of the proposed Redevelopment Plan Amendment.
AYES: Commissioners Mason, Master, Scott
NOES: None
ABSENT: Commissioners Greek, Hart MOTION CARRIED
IN RE: MISCELLANEOUS
TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP 86-204 - RHOADES~EWING DEVELOPMENT
Proposed eight-lot industrial subdivision of a 4.3-acre parcel
located on the east side of Main Street south of Collins Avenue.
NOTE:. Negative Declaration 1080 has been prepared for this item.
Chairman Mason opened the public hearing.
Roger Rhoades, 4931 Birch., Newport Beach, the applicant, said he
agrees with the conditions in the Staff Report.
Chairman Mason declared the public hearing closed.
Moved by Commissioner Scott, seconded by Commissioner Master, that
the Planning Commission recommend to the City Council that it accept
the findings of the Environmental Review-Board to file Negative
Declaration 1080.
AYES: Commissioners Mason, Greek, Hart, Master, Scott
NOES: None MOTION CARRIED
Moved by Commissioner Scott, seconded by Commissioner Master, that
the Planning Commission recommend to the City Council that it approve
Tentative Parcel Map 86-204 for the reasons stated in the Staff
Report and subject to Conditions 1 through 9 in the Staff Report.
AYES: Commissioners Mason, Greek, Hart, Master, Scott
NOES: None MOTION CARRIED
IN RE: MISCELLANEOUS
East Orange Work Program
Jere Murphy, Administrator of Advance Planning, said the Planning
Commission should reach an agreement on any changes that should
be made in the work program and send its findings to the City
Council within the next week.
Moved by Commissioner Master, seconded by Commissioner Scott, that
the Planning Commission 1) eliminate symbols on Line 11 until the
General Plan. elements9 Line 9, have begun; 2) move Line 12 to begin
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after the adoption of the General Plan, Item No. 10, and make it a
dotted bar; and 3) make Item 13 a discontinuous line and extend it
further.
AYES: Commissioners Mason, Greek, Hart, Master, Scott
NOES:. None MOTION CARRIED
IN RE: MISCELLANEOUS
Letter from Keystone Property Management regarding the problem of
horse trails and pedestrian walkway.
Commissioner Greek suggested preparing a letter from the Planning
Commission suggesting that if Keystone would like to do some
grading the City will issue a permit to allow them to do so.
Commissioner Hart suggested refering the letter to the City Council,
to which it should have been addressed in the first place.
Mr. Soo-Hoo said he would take care of the matter.
IN RE: MISCELLANEOUS
Chairman Mason asked the other Commissioners to please attend the
June 27 seminar of the California Association for Local Economic
Development regarding the Mello-Roos Community Facilities Act.
Mr. Johnson said Mackenzie Brown is willing to make a presentation
to the Planning Commission on this,.. which will eliminate its attend-
ance at the seminar. He will check on a suitable date and notify
the Planning Commission when it will be.
Commissioner Greek asked Staff to stamp every map with a date and
mark it received. Mr. Soo-Hoo said this will be done.
IN RE: ADJOURNMENT
The meeting was adjourned at 70:45 p.m., to reconvent at a regular
meeting on Monday, July 7, 1986, at 7:30 p.m., at the Civic Center
Council Chambers, 300 East Chapman Avenue, Orange, California..