11-18-1981 - Minutes TC CITIZEPIS TRAFFT� SAFETY COi�'1MISSION !`ZEETING
MINUTES OF A I�GULAR INiEET�NG '` '
November 1�, 1981� 3:30 P.M. �
AGENDI� MOTION MINUTES
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� ROLL CALL PRESEN�' Commissioners: Go Sh�w, D. Yarger,
D. Smith, R. Sla��, M. Ba�amann,
Staff: B. Dennis, P. Kelley, W. Durst
ABSE�1'T Commissioners :
C AP�'ROVAL OF MINUTES MOT°ION M. �3aumann
' � SECOND R. Slate
Meeting of October 14, 1981 AYES Unanimou�
MOTIOIV CARRZEI�
CONSENT CALENDAR
A. 1420 N. Glassell S�reet
Reque�t fc�r Driveway Clearance Zone
l�rk C. Wateranan �
142!0 N. Glassell Street
Orange, CA 92667
�Co�N�e t��9�3YOVe
B. Trenton Aven�e and Tustin Street
Request for Driveway �Clearance Zone �
Orange Traffic Section . •
RECOMMEND: Approve
C. Eckhoff Stxeet and Orangewood Ave .
Requ�est for No S�opping Anytime Zone �
Orange Traff ic Section
RECONIlKEND: Approve �
D. 690 N. Lemon Street
Request for Driveway Vision Zone
Harold Franz, Plant Engineer
F�.ber-Rite
690 N. Lemon 5treet ,
Orange, CA 92666 �
RECC�I�iEND: Approve M0�'ION D. Smith � �
SECOND D. Yarger
AYES Unanimous
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CONSIDERATION. ITEMS
1. BATAVIA STREET and CHAPMAN AVENUE Mr o Denrai� brief 1}r reviewed the history of
Reques t f or 6000 lb Load Limit the truck. route, syste� f or tt�e City of
Maggie Gibbs Orange. This has been an ongoing s�udy fs�r
379 S. Ba�avia Street 10 years. Three years �go, a truck route :
- Orange, CA 92668 system ceras developed accounting for the
number of com�nercial vehicles using the
system by providin� for the �rucks,
� access points to the freeways and traversing
residential areas as �nuch �.s was possible.
The current status of the truck xoute sy�tem
is awaiting an E.I.R. report on noise. It
should be noted that a truck route system is
not an easg� task and that no single sy�t�m �
will ple�se all parties involved. Staff
would r.ecommend the follawing: 1) Deny
. � the recpuest for load limit �►n Ba��via
2) Fozmaation of a commi�tee to resolve
the truck route issue and report the find�.ngs
within 3-6 month�. Spealciag in f avor of the
6000 lb. Load Limit wa� Maggie Gibbs
(applicant), 379 S. �atavia Str�et, Orange,
CA 9266�. The concerns expressed by Mrs.
� Gibbs were: the high •number of trucks tha.t
, are using the�e street� and the noise
created by these �rucics. She asked that a
STOP control be installed S/Batavia at
_ Palmyra to help reduce the speed of the
trucks. The coamaission indieated that the
noi�e levels would increase if STO�' controls
were installed. George Gibbs, 37'� S. Bat�via
Street, Orange, CA 92668, was also speak�.ng
in favor of�the 6000 lb. Load Limit. He
indicated that he thought trucks could
get to the freeways via other streets (Katella��
Reeotnmendations
1) To deny the request for 6000 1b. Load
Li�nit� on Batadia Stre�t S/0 Chapman
at this time.
2) That a "Blue R�.bbon" committee, which
would inc�ude members of the trucking
industry and citizens at large, be
appc�inted by Council.
3) Recommend that a time limit be set for
' the committee to be formed & the truck
route be designed (3-6 mo�ths) .
, MOTYQN R. Shaw
SECOND �7. Yarger
AYES Unanimous
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AGENDA MOTION MII3UTES
CONSIDERATION IT�MS CON'°T. � �
2. WALNUT' AVENUE and CAN�RIDGE STREET Walnut Avenue is a 40 foot wide raadway
Request for Traffic Signal with one travel la�ne in each direction.
Jerry McAffee Walnut Avenue runs east a�d �rest between
836 E. Walnut Avenue Handy Street to the east and Eckhoff Street
Orange, CA 92666 to th� west. Caffibridge Street is a 34 foot
wide roadway with one travel lane in ,each
directio�. Cambridge Street runs north
� and south between Fairhaven to the south
and Meats Avenue tc� �he north. Both Walnut
and Cambxidge Streets �re classified as
� secondary arterial Yaighways on �he Ce�unty
, and City M�.ster Plan of Art�rial Streets
�nd there are no immediate plans to widen
th� streets to the seeondary arterial
�' " � width. Both stre�ts are residenti�lly
. developed within the study area except fox
C�ambridge Elementary School situa�ted on
the southeast corner of the sub�ect
� intersection and �range High School wliich
� is on Ti�aalnu� Ade. approximately two block�
westerly of Cambxid�e. Both stre�ts are
deas��nated "5chool Bike Rcsutes'� �nd are
� �arked and signed accordingly. There is no
alignment or physical obstructions within
�the �immediate intersection are� that raould
restr ict or-impair sight dis�ance on �
' vehicle-to-vehicle �r��p�destri��-to-vehi�le
basis. There is an existing four-w�.y
�S�TOP control at the sub�ect ir�tersection
as well as four-�aay STOP's on Cambridge at
Palm and 5ycamore. Walnut is "thru"
� between Tustin Street and Glasse7.1 S�reet
except for an existing four-way STOP at
� Walnut and Shaffer, ad�acent to Oran�e High
School. A review of the accident history
was done and three distinct characteristi�s
were evident. 1 - Six of .the nine reparted
acciden�s involved eastbound vehicles.. All
of the drivers of the e�stbound vehicles
were probably (by statement and witness)
at fault. 2 - Four of the six ea�tbound
motorists (at fa�lt) literally ar .f igur-
atively did not "see" the STOP sign and
' were not, based on their addresses, residents
of the imsnediate area.
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CONSIDERATION ITEMS CON'T. .
3 - Four to six o� the total accidents
� occured during tiffie pexiods when pedestrian
- activity was or could be eoncurrent�ly
occuring as the r�sult of sehool crossing�.
It is the recommendation o� the Traffic
, Section ta: 1) �n��aii median mounted STQP
_ signs on Walnut a� �€��bridge. 2) Authorize
� � the glacen�en� of an adult crossing guard
(for elementary stud�n�s only) a� the
Cambridge-Walnut intersection. 3� Ynstall
raised pavement markers with red button
. STOP bmr at all approaches to the intersectio�n,�
4) Auth�orize th� Traffic Division to be�in
preliminary �traffic signal desigra studies
a� the Cambridge-Walnut intersectionm
� 5) Investigate �he r�eed for shrubbe�y �
cleaning on the southwest corner.
MOTION D. Yarge� � �
SECOND D. Smith
AYES Unanimous �
Meeting ad�ourned 4:35 P.M. .
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