11-09-1983 - Minutes TC CITY TR.AFFIC COMMISSION
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Novem�ber 9, 1983
AGENDA . MOTION MINUTES
ROLL CALL � PRESENT Commissioners: G. Shaw, M. Baumann
D. Smi�h, D. Yarger
Staf f: P. Kelley,
ABSENT Commissioners : Non.e
APPROVAL OF MINUTES MOTZON D, Yarger
SECOND M. B�.umann
Meeting of October 12, 1983 AYES Unanimous
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CONSENT CAZENDA.R
A. 642 W. Chapman Avenue
Request for Loading Zone (Paxker frontage
Parr Restaurant Equipment
Jack Kellstrand
642 W. Chapman Avenue
Orange, CA 92668
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RECOMMENDATION: Approve
B. Adams @ Glassell
Request for Vision Zone
James Rice
123 E. Adams Avenue
Orange, CA 92667
RECOMMENDATION: Approve
C. Bush @ Stewart ,
Request for Handicap Parking
Robert Warren, Director ,
The Providence Association
1310 W. Stewart Drive, Suite 505 �
Orange, CA 92668 ' _
RECOMMENDATION; Appr�ove �
D. 260 S, Esplanade Street MOTION G. Shaw
Request for "Park Parallel" Signing SECOND D. Yarger
Carole Shaw AYES Unanimous
RECOMMENDATION: Removed ��.nd heard
separately
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CONSENT CALENDAR CON'T.
D. 260 S. Espla.n.ade Street Staff presented the report on 260 S.
Request for "Park Paral.lel" Signing Esplanade, request for Park Parallel signing.
Carole Shaw Several requests have been received from
residents in the area regarding a parking
RECOMMENDATION: - situation at 260 S. Esplanade. The location
is on Esplanade just north of the STOP
� controlled inte�rsecti�on of Palmyra and
Esplanade. Esplanade Street in this area
is fully develo�ed with the exception of the
property frontage �n the �rest side of the
street at 260 S. Esplanade. Because of
on-site characteristics (i.e. , grades and
the street grad.e) acness tc� the property
is gained thr�ugh a ramped d.ri�veway. Said
ramp extends intr� the public right-of-way
and creates a situation where vehicles are
utilizing the ar�a between that portion
, of the roadway used for travel purposes and
the property line to park perpendicular
to the travelway. -This- �n -turn -does- create- -
a potential for accidents to occur involving
S/B vehicles on Esplanade with those
vehicles parked �perpen�icular to the roadway.
These parked vehicles and the ramped
� driveway are als� o`bstructing the normal
pedestrian pathway alorig t.his reach of
. Esplanade. The propc�sed s�lution is to
post the frontage of 260 S. Esplanade with
sigi�ing to indicate that parking parallel
� is required. Additie�nally, a pedestrian
walkway should be s�Criped at the ramped
driveway location tc� pr�vide a marked
pedest�ian walkway far their circuTation.
Support was vo�iced form the �.udience for
the recommendation proposed by staff.
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� MOTZON � G. Shaw •
SECOND M. Baumann
AYE� Un�.nimous
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CONSIDERATION ITEMS
l. Almond and Flower Flower Street is a north-south 1oca1
Request for STOP Controls residential street. Almond Avenue is an
Orange Traffic Division east-west local resi�.ential street. The
intersection o� Flower 5treet and Almond
RECOMMENDATION: Deny request for STO�' .�.venue is a two-way STOP controlled, cross-
Controls, Install a vision zone t�f 20' intersection (4 legs) . The aecident
to 30' on Flower 5treet at the southeast. history at the intersection �f Flower
corner of Flower Street and Almond Avenue. Street and Alinond Avenue indicates no
re�aorted accidents at thP intersection
in the past t��elve mc�nths. Traff ic volume
counts taken during the p.m. peak hours
of 4:00 p.m. to 6:(�0 p.m. indicate peak
hour volume = 499, pea�i hour ratio = 7.3
to l. Safe �.pproacl� speeds were calculated
for the intersection. Intersection
alignment or c�esign problems are indicated
by an approach speed of 10 mph or less.
, Safe approach speed = 8 mph. This
approach sp�ed is for westbound traffic
looking soutl�. The intersection of
Flower Street and Almond Avenue had no
reported aceidents in the previous -
twelve month �peric�d. There does not appear
to be a problem with the alignment or
design of the inters�ction to the extent
that additional contr�l of the flow of
_ vehicular traffic .through the intersection
is required and cannot be accomplished by
less restrictive means. 'The average
� vehicular volume entering the intersection
from all of the ap�iroaches for the peak
� hour period was 499 vehicles. The peak
hour vehicle volume ratio was 7.3 to l.
The intersection does not satisfy the
required warrants for 4-way STOP, controls
�.t a local intersection. A sight problem
-� � may exist at the southeast corner as .
indicated by the 8 mph safe approach
speed. Westbound traffic is controll�d
� by STOP controls but additional measures
could be impleme�.ted in the form of a
vision zone. The intersection of Flower
Street and Almond Avenue did not satisfy
the required warrants f�r the establishment
of 4-way STOP control at a local inter-
section. �
Recommendation: The request for 4-way
STOP controls at the intersection of
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Flower Street and Almond Avenue be
denied. Additionally, it is recommended
that a vision z�ne of 20' to 30' be
approved on Flower 5treet at the south-
east corner of Flower 5treet and Almond
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MOTION M. Baumann
5ECOND D. Smith
AYES Unanimous
2. Palm and Olive Olive Street is a north-south local
Request for STOP Controls residential street. Palm Avenue is an
Anke Vogelvang east-west l�ca1. residential street.
115 N. Glassell 5treet The �interseetion t�f Olive Street and
Orange, CA 92666 Palm Avenue is a 2-way STOP controlled,
cross-intersection (4 legs) . The
RECOMMEI�IDATION: Deny request for STOP- accident hi.story at the intersection
Controls. Install a .vision zone of 50' on ha�. no rept�rted accidents in the past
Pa7�m Avenue at the ST�]C of Olive Street and , twelve month�. Tra£fic volume counts
Palm Avenue and a vision zone of 20' on taken during the a..m. peak hours of
Palm Avenue at the NEC of Olive Street and 7:00 a.m. to 9:00 a.m. indicate a
Palm Avenue. peak hour volume = 397, peak hour
ratio = 10.3 tt� 1. Saf e approach
speeds were calculated for the inter-
section of Palm Avenue �and Olive Street.
Intersection alignment �r design
� problems are indicated by an approach
_ speed of 10 mph or less. Safe approach
speed = 12 mph. This approach speed
is for westbound traffic looking north.
Safe approach s�peed = 13 mph. This
approach s�peed is ��r northbound traffic
looking west. The in�ersection of
Olive Street an�. Palm Avenue had no
reported acci.dents in the previous
twelve �m.onth �eriod. There does not
appear to be a p.roblem with the align-
• ment or clesign of the intersection to .
the extent that additional control of
the flow of vehicular tratfic through
� the intersec�ion is required and cannot
be accomplished by� less restrictive
means. The average vehicular volume
entering the intersection from all of
the approaches f�or the peak hour period
was 297 vehicles. The peak hour
vehicle volume ratio was 10.3 to l.
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The intersection does not satisfy the
required warrants far 4-way STOP controls
at a local intersection. Some sight
problems may exist at the northeast corner
and southwest corner as indicated by the
12 mph and 13 mph safe approach speeds.
. Northbound and Southbound traffic is con-
trolled by STOP controls but additional
' measures could be implemented in the form
of a vision zone.
Speaking in favor ot the STOP controls:
Anke Vogelvang
115 N. Glassell Street
Orange, CA
Her concerns were:
1) Trucks on SWC are creating hazard. Can't
see around them.
The intersection of 01ive 5treet and Pa1m
Avenue did not satisfy the required warrants
, for the establishment of 4-way STOP
control at a local intersection.
- Recommendation: The reques�t for 4-way
STOP controls at the intersection of
Olive Street ancl Palm Avenue be denied.
Additionally, it is recommended that a
vision zone of 5d' be a�proved on Palm
j Avenue at the southwest corner of Palm
Avenue and Olive St�eet and a vision zone
of 20' be a�pproved at the northeast corner
on Palm Avenue at Olive Street and Palm
Avenue.
MOTION M. Baumann
SECOND D. Smith
AYES Unanimous
3. Center an.d Walnut �enter Street is a north-south local resi-
Request for STOP Control.s dential street. Walnut Avenue is an .east-
G.T, Smith, President west local residential street. The inter-
Chapman College section of Center Street and Walnut Avenue
333 N. Glassell Street � is 2-way STbP controlled, cross-inter-
Orange, CA 92666 section (4 legs) . The.accident history at
the intersection of Center Street and
RE�C�MMENDATION: The request for STOP ' Walnut Avenue indica.tes one (1) reported
Controls at the intersection of Center accident. at the intersection in the past
and Walnut be denied. twelve months. �raffic volume counts
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taken during the� a.m, peak ho�.rs of 7:00 a.m.
to 9:00 a.m. indicate peak hour volume = 406,
� peak hour ratio = 8.2 to 1. Safe approach
speeds were calculated �or the intersection
of Walnut Avenue and Center Street. Inter-
section alignment or design problems are
� indicated by an approach speed of 10 mph
or less. Safe approach speed = 13 mph.
This approach s�eed is for southbound traffic
looking east. The intersection of Center
Street and Walnut Avenue had one (1) reported
accident in the p.revious twelve month
geriod. There does not appear to be a
problem with the alignrn.ent or design of the
intersection to the extent that additional
control of the flot� of vehicular traffic
through the intersection is required and
cannot be .accomplishe�. by less restrictive
means. The average vehicular volume enter.ing
the intersection from all of the approaches
for the peak hour period was 406 vehicles.
The peak hour vehicle valume ratio was 8.2
to l. The intersection o� Center Street and
Walnut Avenue did ndt satisfy the required
warrants for the establishment of 4-way
STOP. controls at a local intersection. __
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R�commendation: T�e re�,uest for 4-way STOP
. controls at the intersection of Center
Street and Walnut Avenue be denied. Inst�.11
a marked pedestrian crosswalk on Walnut
Avenue with advance signing with increased
police enforcement.
MOTION D. Smith
SECOND G. Shaw
AYES M. Baumann
OPPOSED D. Yarger .
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4. Handy and .Rose - Handy Street is a north-south local resi-
Request for 5TOP Controls dential street. R�►se Av`enue is an east-
Phil Perry west local residential. street. Rose Avenue
658 N. Handy Street � intersects with Handy Street te form two
Orange, CA off-set tee-inters�ections with single STOP
controls for Rose Av'enue vehicular traff ic
RECOMMENDATION: The request for three- (E/B and W/B) . The accident history at the
way STOP Controls at the tee-intersecti s intersection of Rose Avenue and Handy Street
of Handy Street and Rose Avenue be indicates no reported accidents at the
deniec�. � intersection in the past twelve months.
Traffic volume counts taken during the a.m.
peak hours of 7:00 a.m. and 9:00 a.m.
iridicate on Rose Avenue (north) peak hour
volume = 284, peak hour ratio = 46.3 to l.
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� Rose Avenue (south) pe�,k hour volume = 294,
peak hour ratio = 17.4 to 1. Safe approach
speeds were calculated �or the intersection.
Intersection alignment t�r �.esign problezns are
indicated by an a�pproach speed of 10 mph or
less. Safe approach speed = 10.25 mph.
This approach speed is �or southbound traffic
looking west .at the n�rthern intersection of
` Handy Street and Rc�se A`crenue. The intersectior
� ot Handy Street and Rose Avenue had no�
�reported accid.ents in the �previous twelve
month period. There does not appear to be
a problem with the alignment or design of the
intersection to the exten.t that additional
control of the flot� of vehicular traffic
through the intersect�.on is required and can.
not be accom�plished by 1.ess restrictive means.
- The. everage vehicular volume entering the
intersection from all o� the approaches for
the peak hour period was 2$4 vehicles for the
Rose Avenue (north) intersection and 294
vehicles for the.�Rose Avenue (south) inter-
� section. The pe�.k hour vehicle volume ratio
� was 46�3 to 1 and 1.7.4 to 1 respectively.
The intersections �.id ni�t satisfy the
r required warrants for three-way STOP controls
at �. local tee-intersection. Some sight
� ctifficulties are encountered by southbound
� vehicles pn Handy Street at the Rose Avenue
• (north) intersection. Hotaever, vehicles
on Rose Avenue eastbound are required to
stop before entering the intersection. The
intersection of Handy Street with Rose Avenue
did not satisfy the required warrants for the
establishment of three-way STOP controls .
at a local tee-intersection.
Recommendation: The request for` three-way
STOP controls at the tee-intersections of
- Handy Street and Rose Avenue �be denied:
.MOTIqN D. Yarger
SECOND D. � Smith
AYES Unanimous ' �
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5. Kathleen and Lomita Kathleen Street is a north-south residential
Request for STOP Controls street. Lomita Avenue is an east=west
Theresa Carmichall residential street. The intersec�Cion of
850 N. Kathleen Street Kathleen Street and Lomita Avenue is an
Orange, CA 92667 uncontrolled tee-intersection (3 legs) . The
accident history at the intersec�tion of
RECOMMENDATION: The request for STOP Kathleen Street and Lomita Avenue indicates
Controls at the intersection of no reported accidents at the iritersection in
Kathleen Street a�.d Lomita Avenue be the past twelve months. Traffic volume
approved. Additionally, a vision zone _ counts taken during the a.m. peak hour of
of 20' to 30' be approved on Lomita 7:00 a.m. and 9:00 a.m. indicate peak hour
Avenue at the southwest corner of � volume = 147, peak hour ratio = 2.3 to l.
Kathleen Street and Lomita Avenue. Safe approach speeds were calculated for the
intersection. Zntersection alignment or
design pro�blems ar.e indicated by an approach
speed of 10 mph or less. Safe approach
speed = 11 mph. This approach speed is for
eastbound traffic loo�,ing north. The inter-
section of Kathleen Street and• Lomita Avenue
had no reported accidents in the previous
twelve month period. There does not appear
to be a problem with the alignment or design
of the intersecti�n to the extent ��=hat
' additional control of the flow of vehicular
traffic through the intersection is required
and. cannot be accomplishe.d by less rest=
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rictive means. The average vehicular volume
- entering the intersection from all of the
_ approaches for the pea� hour period was 147
vehicles. The peak hour vehicle volume
ratio was 2.3 to l. The intersection does
satisfy the required warrants for 2-way
STOP controls at a. local intersection. A
sight problem may exist at the northwest
corner as indicat�d by the ll mph safe
approach speed. The intersection of Kathleen
Street and Lomita Avenue did satisfy the
required warrants for the establishme�.t
, � of 2-way S.TOP control at a 1oca1 intersection,
Recommendation: Vehicles east bound on
� Lomita Avenue be required to stop before
entering the inte.rsect�,on of Kathleen Street
and Lomita Avenue, thereby appro�'ing the
request for STOP controls at the intersection
of Kathleen. Street and Zomita Avenue.
Additionally, it is recommended that a
vision zone of 20` ti� 30' be approved on
Lomita Avenue at the southwest corner of
Kathleen Street and Lc�mita Avenue.
MOTION M. Baumann
SECOND D. Smith
AYES Unanimous
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6. Bush and Stewart Bush Street is a north-south local street.
Request for STOP Controls Stewart Drive is an east-west local street.
Robert Warren The intersecti.on of Bush Street and Stewart
Providence Association Drive is a two-way STOP controlled cross
1310 W. Stewart brive, Suite 505 intersection (4 legs) . Northbound and south-
Orange, CA 92668 bound vehicles on Bush Street are required to
STO.P before entering the intersection. The
RECOMMENDATION: Approve request for accident history at the intersection of Bush
STOP controls anc�. install appropriate Street and Stewart Drive indicates no reported
vision zones accidents at the intersecti�n in the past
twelve months. This area bounded by Main
� 5treet, La Veta Avenue5 Pepper Street and
Columbia P1ace has been in transition for
several years nc�w. Recently the city
abandoned a porti+�n of public street for the
developmen.t of a parking structure. This
area encompasses the 5aint Joseph's Hospital
facilities and the Pre�vidence Speech and
Hearing facilities and has becflme a small
city into it�self, Circulation problems in
the area are directly attri�ut�d to the
aforementioned facilities and their operations.
Congestion results during shift chariges at
the facilities resulting in confusion regarding
right-of-way at the intersection of Bush
Street and Stewart Drive. Vehicular traffic
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pr.ojections based on the redeveldpment of
� this area (i.e. , the Pro�'idence Building)
. indicate 300 vehicles during peak hours
utilizing the intersection for all approaches.
There does not appear to �be a problem with
the alignment or design �f the intersection
to the extent that additional control of the
flow of vehicular traffic through the inter-
section is required and cannot be accomplished �
by less restrictive me�.ns. The intersection
does satisfy the required warrants for 4-way
STOP controls at a local intersection.
Recommendation: Approve the request for
4-way STOP contr�ls at the intersection of
� Bush Street and Stewart Drive with appropriate
vision zones. � -
MOTION G. Shaw
SECOND D. Smith
A.YES Unanimous
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7. Fletcher Industrial Area
Request for N'o Parking for Street Sw ping
Tom Jordan
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RECOMMENDATION: Continue to MOTION G. Shaw
December 14, 1983 mee�ing 5�COND D. Smith
AYES Unanimous
Meeting adjourned 4:15 p.m.
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