01-12-1983 - Minutes TC CITY TRAFFIC CO:iMISSION
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January 12, 1983
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ROLL CALL PP�ESENT Commissioners: G. ShdW, R. Slate,
M. Baumann, D. Smith
Staff: B. Dennis, P. Kelley
�f3SENT Commissioners : D. Yarger
APPROVAL OF MINUTES MOTION D. Smith
SECOND R. Slate
Meeting of November 10, 1982 AYES Unanimous
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CONSENT CALENDAR
A. 1451/1477 W. Almond Avenue
Request for Red Curb
Robert J. Moore
1451 W. Almond Avenue
0 range, CA 92667
RECOMMEND: Approve
g. 1611 l�J. Palmyra Avenue
Request for Driveway Vision Zone
Leon Beuhler
1611 l�l. Palmyra Avenue
Orange, CA 92668
RECO_^1MEND: Approve
�. 1030 N. �1ain Street
Request for Driveway Vision 7_one
Nli 11 i am Howard
1030 N. Main Street #H
�Jrange, CA 92667
RECO` MMEND: Approve
p. 3701 E. Chapman Avenue
Request for Driveway Vision Zone
Jo-Ann Ouellet
3701 East Chapman Avenue #7
Orange, CA 92669
RECO�M__MEND: Approve
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E. 4001 Garden Grove Blvd (Lewis fron ge)
Request for Driveway Vision Zone
Warren Nelson, Administr.ator
Garden Tower West
4001 Garden Gr�ve Blvd
Orange, CA 92668 �
RECOMMEND: Approve �
F. Glassell Street under the 22 Fwy �
Request for "N� Stopping Anytime"
Robert B. Holland.
439 E. Chapman Avenue
Orange, CA 92666
RECOMMEND: Approve
G. 391 S. Glassell Street
(South �ide Mkt. Glassell & Culver)
Request for Green Curb - 20 Min Pkg
Manuel Flores
3Q1 S. Glassell Street
Orange,. CA 92666
RECOMMEND: Approve
MOTION M. Baumann
SECOND D. Smith
AYES Unanimous
CONSTDERATION ITEMS
1 . Master Plan of Arterial Highways The approach to the Master Plan of Arterial
(M.P.A.H. ) Highway study was two-fold. One, to solicit
Joe Foust, Consultant input from the community through several
community workshops and two, use of standard
traffic engineering princ7ples to evaluate
the existing system based on a horizon �year
of 2000. Conclusions from the entire study
indicate the following:
•�-The people and residents of the City of
Orange are using Cambridge and Walnut. They
are using that for their own local circu-
lation but we did not find a tremendous
amount of this intra-county through trips
using the secondary classification of streets.
� In the north-south direction the freeways
are not going to be able to accomodate the
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expected demand and that is going to spill
oue�r onto th� north-south arterials namely
Tustin Avenue. Findings of capacity analysis
indicate that Tus tin Avenue is going to
car�y a tremendous and significant increase
in traffic, Cambridge will continue to
increase in travel but not to the point
that it would really be necessary to main-
tain Cambr�idge as a four lane classification
on the Arterial Master Plan. The attitude
fr°om the community workshops was that the
' community would like to see Cambridge as
well as a number of other streets remain
simply as it is. Downgrading Cambridge to
a commuter type of classificat�on would
allow that to h�ppen. A commuter street is
basically a 40` wide street, two lanes, one
lane in each direction not two lanes in
each directior� and it really was intended
to serve precisely the purpose that Cambridge
- is serving now.
• Tustin Ave�ue be upgracied to a major classi-
�fication of raadway. A major classification
roa�way is 120' right of way with six
th.rough 1anes. Six through lanes could be
aehi�eved on the existing cross section by
elimination of parking and basically
restriping of the str°eet. It would be
. necessary to have a certain amount of inter-
section widening or intersection enhancement
p�^ovi ded at i nter�seeti ons where there are
si;gni"ficant turning movements to the freeway
interchanges. The ma�n disruption would
be the elimination of parking on Tustin
� Avenue� ,
• Th.e othe�r significant conclusion of this
study is that Chapman Avenue be enha,nced
or �improved, partiEulary Chapman Avenue east
of Tustin. Chapman Avenue `should be up-
graded again to the modified major classi-
fication. 1'h:at's six lanes within the
existing cross section.
Additional concerns from the Commission
i:nclude:
• Inclu�e additional dialogue in respect to
the southwest part of the City, specifically
� the Main, La Veta; Flower area. Specifically
due to the growth in the area, the projected
tr°affic demand and employment demand should
be emphasi�zed a�dditionally in the report.
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• Is the assumption that with the freeways
�idened is this the best case rather than
a worse case scenario.?
• Under the assumption that the traffic would
in all likelihood, build on Cambridge until
additional capacity is provided either on
the freeway or perhaps m�re immediately
on Tustin, should TS�1 measures (Traffic
Systems Management measures) be ��nplemented
on the street in this respect; signals
perhaps parking removal , peak hour parking
removal to try to contain the traffic on
Cambridge rather than risking the spill
� over on the parallel north-south streets
and specifically Shaffer.
• Additional emphasis couTd be qiven to the
, Prospect IJanda extension or alignment.
Additional concerns were expressed by:
Tom Saenz
4649 Blue Jay, Orange, CA
Ver�don Crai g
825 E. Barkley, Orange, CA
These concerns were:
• Are there any other plans for Cha�man
Avenue in east Orange, in' the Orange Park
� Acres area, to have additional roads that
- would alleviate some of the traffic?
� If so, what k:ind of a time frame is involved?
• Was west Chapman at the 57 interchange
examined to perhaps expand west Chapman to
six lanes bringing traffic off the 57 down
State College or Chapman to Main Street?
e Will Walnut in the future need to be widened
to a four lane highway to accomodate develop-
ment in th� east and, how many years do you
imagine it would take before Walnut reaches
capaci ty or that .the devel.opnient__i n the
east would �equire widening?
• How far off are we proposing tracts and
industrial development, that type of thing
Zn the east area?�
• Taft-Serrano extension
Motion by Commissioner Shaw to accept this
. report, request that it be forwarded onto
the Planning Commission with the additions
and concerns that were expressed today and
your �^esponse to them. Seconded by
Commissioner Smith. Motian carried.
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2. E.S.C.A. (Various locations and The area under investigation is described by
requests) Esplanade Street on the west, Hewes Street
Kendall D. Neisess, Principal on the east, Bond Avenue on the north, and
Esplanade School Spring Street �n the south. The area is �
381 N. Esplanade Street. residential in nature with the County of
Orange, CA 92669 Orange making up some islands in the area.
� The major north-south arteries for traffic
for this area are Rancho Santiago Bou,levard
and Hewes Street. �These two streets are
intersected by the main east-west arteries
� of Bond Avenue, Walnut Avenue, and Spring
� Street. In addition the �rea criss-crosses
a number of small local residential streets
that feed into these main arteries. The
section of Hewes Street between Bond Avenue
and Santiago Boulevard is unimproved on
both sides of the street and the frontage
for the most part on the east side is used
for agricultural purposes. The area
indicated is an unimproved area of roadway
on the east side df Hewes Street north of
Bond Avenue and Bluebird Avenue. The
problem indicated is that it appears a
sidewalk is badly needed for the pedestrian
traffic generated by that recent residential
development that has access onto Hewes
Street from Bluebird Avenue. Such pedestrian
traffic is using the vacant lot during dry
_ weather and during wet weather they begin
to use Hewes St�eet. The residential service
area in question is a single family develop-
ment consisting of 140+ units situated on
a large tract of land on the north side of
Bond between Wewes Street and Rancho Santiago
Boulevard, There are three access points
or roadways from the development onto
Rancho Santiago Boulevard, Bond Avenue, and
Hewes Street. These three roads are Condor
Crest, Swan Street, and Bluebird Avenue
respectively. At the immediate intersection
of Bond Avenue and Hewes Street, the north-
east corner is within the County of Ornage
and has a Hewes Street frontage of approxi-
mately 200 feet. Considerations for instal-
lation of sidewalk, whether asphalt or
concrete, would be dependent first upon need
and secondly upon available funds. In this
instance, there is a third consideration,
that of co-operative involvement with the
County of Orange if the �mprovement is
approved. The subject location along Hewes
St�eet between Bluebird Avenue and Bond
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Avenue has the potential to draw pedestrians
from approximately 56 d�velling units. The
configuration of the tract indicates that
Bluebird Avenue would be the shortest access
point for this number of dwellings even
though there are three roadways or access
points out of the tract. Pedestrian counts
were conducted on January 7, 1983 durinc� the
time when the greatest number of pedestrians
could. be utilizing the route, 7 am to 9 am.
The investig�tion revealed that a total
� of four pedestri�ns and �three bicycles used
the subject route. Of the four pedestrians
observed all four were of high school age
or older. The second �condsideration, cost,
requires a decision regarding asphalt
. o�° concrete as th� material would most
likely necessitate providing, as part of the
construction, improving curb and gutter
along the length of th� improvement. This
would p�°eclude the con�inual need for
replace�nent of the sidew�lk due to erosion
during inclement weather. The use of
asphalt �s the m�terial for construetion
would not be as ex�pensive as for concrete
yet there would be continual maintenance
p�~obl ems i f the ful 1 impr�vEments are not
p�ovi�ed. Such type of maintenance
_ pr�oblems could be erosion, cracking and
depressions in the sidewalk area. The
thi�d consideration regarding co-operation
wi.th th� County of Orange for that portion
o� Hewes Stt^eet within their jurisdiction
cannot be ad�r�esse� at this time. It is
relevant to the discusslon at hand because
i;t would be with.i,n the County of Qrange
� ter�°i�ory that c�mpletion of the sidewalk
l i nk between Bl uek�:i;rd �venue and Bond
Avenue would be accomplished. It is the
opi.nion of the City staff that th� need
for si.dewalk al.ong Hewes Stt�eet north of
Bond Avenue as indicated by the initiating
letter was not present. We would recommend
th.at request for si�ewalk in the area be
�denied at this time but that the area be
monitored with respect to any changes that
. might occur in any characteristics that
woul� inc�ease the pedestrian traffic
� i .e. additional generations moving in that
are going to school , any chane�es in school
bou:ndaries that may result due to closures
or� enrollm�nt problems and then take
action when it be deemed that the need was
there.
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Speaking .in favor of the request for sidewalk
were:
Kendall Neisess, Principal
Esplanade School
381 N. Esplanade St
Orange, CA �
Jed E11is �
4709 Golden Eagle �
Orange, CA
. Tom Saenz
4649 Blue Jay
Orange, CA
Their concerns were:
• Significant number �f elementary aged
� students reside in the area
� These students would use the walkway to
school if it were there
� Danger from vehicle speeds on Hewes when
that is used as the walkway
• Hazard of existing vacant lot during
inclement weather when used as a walkway
route
Motion be Commissioner Smith to approve the
request for a walking surface on the east
side of Hewes between Bluebird and Bond.
� Staff to complete construction with any
required co-operation with the County of
Orange. Seconded by Commissioner Baumann.
Motion ca�rried.
Open drainage channel �on Walnut Avenue.
The area under investigat7on is described
by Esplanade Street on the west, Hewes�
Street on the east, Bond Avenue on the nort�,
and Spring Street on the south. The area
is residential in nature with the County
of Orange making �up some islands in the
area. The major north-south arteries for
traffic for this area are Rancho Santiago
Boulevard and Hewes Street. These two
� streets are intersected by the main east-
west arteries of Bond Avenue, l�lalnut Avenue,
and Spring Street. Tn addition the area
criss-cros.ses a number of small local
residential streets that feed into these
main arteries. The section of Hewes Street
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� between Bond Avenue and Santiago Boulevard
is unimproved on both sides of the street
and the frontage for the most part of the
east side is used for agricultural purposes.
In the subject location an open drainage
channel exists along l�Jalnut Avenue on the
north side �of the street between Esplanade
Street on the west and i-Iamlin Street on the
east. That reach between Es�lanade Street
and Earlham Street is within the City of
Orange and is fenced with chainlink. That
. reach between Earlham Street and Hewes
Street is in County of Orange territory and
is -not fenced. The reach between Hewes
Street and Hamlin Street is within the
City of Orange, is not fenced and has three
access points units on the north side.
Existing improvements along that reach of
the drainage channel within the City of
Oranqe include full improvements on the
south side (curb, gutter, sidewalk) while
the north side is unimproved with the excep-
tion of the open drainage channel . The
travel lane width for westbound vehicles
is approximately eleven (11 ) feet from the
centerline of Walnut �venue to the edge of
pavement. The southern most edge of the
drainage channel is fifteen (15) feet in
- width. Total right-of-way on L�lalnut
� Avenue owned b� the City of Ora�nge is sixty
(60) feet. The portion of the drainage
channel within the City of Orange lends
itself to several. bossible alternatives;
Alternative #1 - P�ohibit Pedestrian Traffic
Alternative #2 - Fencing
Alternative #3 - Full Improvements
Alternative #3 - Full Improvements: This
alternative would provide for complete
improvements of curb, �utter, sidewalk;
and street section. This would result in
the completion of th�t section of roadway
of Walnut Avenue between .Hamlin Street and
Hewes ,Street. Conse�uently, G�lalnut Avenue
would be completed to form a fully improved
street and the problems indicated by the
initiating party would be eliminated. Total
_ cost is appro�imately $100/foot or $210,000.
Alternative #2 - Fencing: This alternative
would involve fencing, in some manner, the
drainage channel to preclude the types of
problems indicated by the initiating party.
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Alternative #2 does, however, pose additional
problems for implement�tion. Fencing the
drainage channel would require the protection
of the access points for the residential
units on the north side of the street. To
accomplish this would require reconstruction
of the access points or driveways in such
a manner to preclude the passibility of
accident of injury occuring on the access
point because of the fencing, "box fencing".
. Alternative #1 - Prohibit Pedestrian Traffic:
Prohibition of pedestrians on the north side
of.l�Jalnut Avenue between Hewes Street and
Hamlin Street would eleminate the problem.
Accomplishing this is no easy task.
�n���aragem�n�:� to use another route and
discouragements to the use of the present
route are required. A safe walking route
on the street would be for. pedestrians to
use the south side of Walnut Avenue as they
traverse between Hewes Street and Hamlin
Street. This could be accomplished by:
First installing a crosswalk across l�lalnut
at Hamlin�adequately post it to encourage
initially the crossing of Walnut at Hamlin
to gain access to th� S/S of the str�et
�nd s:ubsequently on to Es�1anade�School .
Second, pedestrian traffic be prohibited
- from walking on the north side of ulalnut
paralleling the ditch. We c�nnot mitigate
the total problem at tbis time yet we do
, not feel we should allow pedestrian traffic
to continue. So we will physically restrict
it. Third, to eleminate the potential for
vehi���� passing in that area, install a
yellow centerline, a barricade at the west
bound a�proach to the ditch and a very
heavy set of delineators along the north side
of the ditch. �
It is the opinion of the city staff that
Alternative #1 would lend itself to mitigatinc
the immediate problems indicated and would v
so recommend the adoption of that alternative.
Motion by Commissioner Slate to accept the
recommendations of staff; seconded by
Commissioner Shaw. ��otion approved.
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3. Walnut Ave and Esplanade Street Esplanade Street is a narth-south local
Request for STOP Control s r°esi denti al stree.t runni ng a t�°avelway v�i.dth
Kendall D. Neisess, Principal of thirty-six (36) �Feet. There �re single
Esplanade School lanes in each direction and par,king on bath
381 N. Esplanade Street sides of the street. Walnut Avenue. i.s an
Orange, CA 92669 east-west local residential street, a trave.l-
way width of forth (40) feet. There are
single lanes in each direction and parking
on both si�es of the street. The inte�^-
secti on of Espl anade Street and L�IaI nut
Auenue for°ms a cross-intersection (4 legs�)
� with STOP controls for no�rthb�und and south-
bound vehicles on Esplanade St�eet. Th�
accident histo�ry at the inte�section of
Esplanade Street and Walnut Avenue indicates
two (2) reported accid�r�ts at the inter= �v � �
, , section in the past twelve months. Traffic
volume counts taken during the a.m. and
p.,m, peak hou�s on January 4, 1983. The
. counts i.ndicate a peak hour volume of 377
vehicles and a peak hour ratio of 2.4 to l
in the a.m. The p.m. peak hour volume is
�42 vehciles with a peak hour ratio of
1 .72 to .l . The City Traffi.c Commission has
a policy of establishing a 4-way STOP
�control at a l ocal i ntersecti on i f an�r of
�h.e followin� warrants are met:
1 ) Acci�ent H:i sto�°y
_ 2) Ta~affi.c Volumes
3) Intersection Alignment or Design
Th.e intex°section of Esplanade Street and
6�alnut Avenue had two (2� r�eported accidents
in the preuious twelve month period. There
does not appear to be a problem w�th the
�lignr�ent or desi:gn of th� intersection.
Th�� average uehicula�° volume entering the
i.ntersection f�rom all of the approaches for
the peak hour periads was 377 and 342
vehicles, respectively. The peak hour �
vehicle volume ratios were 2.4 and 1 .7 to 1 .
The inter�section does satisfy the required
wa�rants for four�-way STOP contro1s at a
local intersection�.
It is the recommendation of the Traffic
Division that vehicles on Esplanade Street
also be required to stop befo.re ente�^ing
� the intersection of Esplanade Street and
GJalnut Avenue, thereby approving the request
for four-way STOP controls at the inter�-
section of Esplanade Str�eet and Walnut
Avenue with appropriate vision zones.
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h10TI0N 1�1. Baumann
SECOND D. Smith
AYES Unanimous �
4. Cambridge Street and P�aple Avenue Cambridge Street is a north-south secon�ary
Request for STOP Controls arterial street w�th a �rauelway width of
C�ichael Hawkins thirty-fou� (34) feet. There are two
Mayor's Hotline single tr�avel lane�s for each direction an�
parking on bath sides of the street. hlaple
Avenue is �n east-west local street runni.ng
with a travelway width of forth (40) feet.
There are single trauel lanes for each
di�^ection and parking on both sides of the
street, The inte�°section of Cambri�ge
Street and Maple Avenue is a two-way ST4P
controlled� cross-intersection (4 legs) .
Eastbound an� westbound traffic on Maple
Avenue must stop before enterina the inter-
section. The accident histo�ry at the
intersection of Cambridge �treet and P�laple
Avenue indicates fiue (5) accid�n�ts in
the previous twelve (12) months. Traffic
volume counts were taken du�ring the a.m.
peak hours of 7:00 a.m. to 9.00 a.m. on
January 5, 1983 with the following results:
Peak Hour Volume = 629
Peak Hour Ratio = 9 to 1
The City Traffic Commission h�s a policy of
� establishing a 4-way STOP control at an
arterial intersection if any of the following
warrants a�e met:
1 ) Signal Study
2) Accident History
3) T��ffic Volumes
. 4) Intersection Alignment or Design
The intersecti.on of Cambridge Street and
��apl e Avenue had fi ve acei�dents i n the
pr°evious twelve month period. There does
not �ppear to be a problem with the al'ignment
o�^ design of the inter�section. The average
vehicular volume entering th� intersection
from all approaches for an ei�ht hour period
was 598 vehicles.� The inte�section did
not satisfy the signal wa�^rant criteria.
The intersectian did not satisfy the
required warrants for STOP controls at an
� arte�rial intersection. It is the r�ecommen-
dation of the Traffic Division that the
� request for a 4-way STOP control at the
inter�section of Cambr�idge Street and Maple
Avenue be denied. Fu�ther, th�t
intersection vision zones be established
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for all approaches to the intersection.
Speaking in opposition of the STOP Controls:
Jay Gould
225 N. Cambridge, Orange, CA
. Rod Boinhop
343 S. Cambridge, Ornage, CA
��ary ,Cl.�r.k .
Concerns from the Commission were:
Street light does not extend out from
one of the posts at the intersection.
�lotion by Commissioner Slate to follow
staffs recommendations that we leave that
as a two-way STOP and change the lighting
to reflect on the intersection. Install
vision zone, correct lighting, and deny
the request for STOP contrrols. Seconded
by Commissioner Smith. P?otion carried.
5. Wilson Street/Hoover Street �� The Traffic En ineerin� Div�ision report
Re�uest for No Parking on I�lednesday on parking res�rictions for street sweeping
Ed Thorne, Contract Service Officer purpose.s indicated no cost benefit would
City of Orange occur as the �result of a city wide parking
300 E. Chapman Avenue restriction program.
Orange, CA 92666 Th� �report also indicated such a program on
specific streets or within selected areas
� could result in im�ro,ved street sweeping
efficiency at a nominal cost.
It was moved by Commissioner Shaw and
seconded by Commissioner Baumann that the
repo�rt and �ecommendations be approved.
It was requested by the Traffic Engineer
that he be allowed to correct and add
additional data to the report before
submittal to Council . �
Request approved.
Meeting adjourned 5:30 p.m. �