01-11-1984 - Minutes TC `.:v�-�;__
CITY TRAFFIC COMMISSION
MINUTES OF A REGULAR MEETING
January 11, 1984
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AGENDA MOTION MINUTES
ROLL CALL PRESENT Commissioners: G. Shaw, M. Baumann,
D. Smi�Ch, D. Yarger
Staff: B. Dennis, P. .Kelley,
Sgt. Fl�.nagan
ABSENT Comrnissioners ;
APPROVAL OF MINUTES MOTZON
SECOND
I�Zeetin.g of December 14, 1.983 AYES �
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CONSENT CALENDAR
A. Batavia & Fle�Ccher SEC
Request for Re�. Curb
Orange Traffic Division '
RECOMMENDATION: A.pprove
B. 640 N. Cypress Street
Request for "No Stoppin� Anytime" Zone
Fred Da1eo '
Dimension
640 N. Cypress Street
Orange, CA 92667
Fiberite
645 N. Cypress Street
Orange, CA 92667
RECOMMENDATION: A.pprove
C. Taft and Leslie Way
R.equest for �Tision Zone
Mark Schmidt, President
Walsh Enterprises, Tnc.
1633 N. Leslie Way `
Orange, CA 92667
RECOMMENDATION: Approve
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CONSENT CALENDAR CON'T.
D. 2200 N. Glassell
Request for "No S�Copping Anytime" Zone
Bill Wallien, Maint. Eng.
South Bay Forest Products
2200 N. Gl�.ssell Street
Orange, CA 92667
RECOMMENDATION: Approve
E. 1300 N. Tus�in
Request for "No Parking in A11ey"
Jeffery Lil7enquist "
Tusk�.tella Shopping Center
P.O. Box 5544
Orange, CA 92667
RECOMMENDATION: Approve MOTION D. Smith .
SECOND D, Yarger ;
AYES Unanimous
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CONSIDER.A.TION I�EMS
l. Pal.m Avenue between Glassell and T tin Staff gave report. Pa1m Avenue is residen-
Request �or Bus Route Removal tial in n,ature. Cu�b to curb width is 40'
(Petition f rom residents) � & and varies in width the length of Glassell
Artha Wilber to Tustin. Palm Avenue is classed as a
1207 E. Palm Avenue residential street. Artha Wilber was advised
Orange, CA 92666 to petition/po11 the residents along Pa1m
Avenue to determine their preference for
RECOMr1FNDATIONt Rerou�Ce bus route 69 busPs to be removed t�n Pa1m. After receiving
on Palm Avenue from Glassell tQ Tustin the petition, the item was set for public
to Chapman Avenue from Glassell to hearing,. Staff woulc� recommend: Relocate
Tustin. route 69 from Palm to Chapman. This will
impact those people living N/0 P�I�.ple as
80+ buses per day use the route, at a�pro-
, ximatel.y 5 sto.ps. If it- is relocated to
Chapman the tt�tal number of stops would be
reduced t� 4 locations. Mary Evelyn Bryden
� and Ed Buckl.ey were i�resent representing
O.C.T,D. Those speakin,g for removal of
route 69 from Palm Avenue were:
Artha Wilber, 1208 E. Pa1.m
Steve Biczo, 1614 E. Pa1m
Randy Stene, 3(J7 N. Lincoln
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Concerns expressed by those in favor of
removal were: "
, o Total number o� buses using Palm Avenue
is 83 with a bus every 10-15 minu`tes
' o The damage t� the s�reet by the weight
' . of the bus
o Noise
d Speed "
o Hazard to bikes/children because of the
narrowness of the s�reet
�'hose speaking for retaining route 69 on
Palm Avenue were.
Mrs, Harvey, 467 N. 01ive
Harry Curtner, 1219 F. Adams �
Ruth Campbell, 4�9 N. Glassell
Mr. Harwood, 425 N. 1'ine
Cheryl Green, 23l N, Grand
Opinions expressed ab�ut the removal were:
o Tr7il1 cause hardship and inconvience to
current riders.
o Woulc� require a�.ditio�.al walking distance
o Many senior citizen.s current�.y ride but
do not have personal �Cranspt�rtation
o Not aw�.re �f the indicated speed and �noise
from the petition
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. �ossibilities indi'cated by O.C.T.D. were:
1. �.etain existing route 69 as is
2. Create a c�mmuter/express run on Palm �ve
3. Split the rt�ute 69 by alternating usage
on Palm Avenue and Chapman Avenue
4. R�locate the route 69 entirely to Chapman
Avenue from Palm Avenue
O�C�T.D. indicated dial-a-ride services are
available with a 30-45 minute wait. However,
many senior citizens currently ride fr.ee on
the normal buses.
It is possible, if route 69 were relocated
to utilize some o.f �he existing bus stop
locations on Chapman Avenue and supplement
with additional stops as required.
Recommendation: Reroute bus route ��69 on
Palm Avenue frbm Glassell to Tustin to
Chapman Avenue from Glassell to Tustin.
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Implementation requires the removal of the
following stops on P�.lm Avenue: �
1) W/B N/S Magnolia �
' 2) E/B N/S Magnblia
� . 3) W/B N/5 Cambridge �
4) E/B N/S Cambridge
5) W/B F/S Harwood " �
6) E/B F/S Harwood
7) W/B N/S Shaffer
8) E/B N/S Shaffer
9) W/B Opp Orange
10) E/B N/S Granc7.
The addition of the following stops on '
Chapman Avenue:
1) W/B F/S Cambridge at Chapma.n
. 2) E/B F/S Grand at Chapman
� 3) W/B N/S Grand �:t ChapYnan
MOTSON D. Ya.rger
SECOND D. Smith '
AY�S Unanimous .
Election of Officers , �
Chairman: Gene Shaw G MOTZON M. Baumann
S��QNZJ D. Smith °
- ° AYES Unanimous
Vice Chairman: Dick Yarger MOTION M. Baumann
SECOND D. Smith
AYES Unanimous
Meeting adjc�urned 5:00 p.m.