08-14-1985 - Minutes TC CITY TR�AFFIC COMMISSION
MINUTES OF A REGULA.R MEETING
August 14, 1985
�iGENDA MOT ION MINUTE S �� - -�
ROLL CALL PRESENT Commissioners: G. Shaw, M. Baumann,
D. Smith, D. Turner, D. Yarger
Staff: D, Ku.an, Sgt. Ordonez
,ABSENT Commissioners :
APPROVAL OF MINUTES MOTION M. Baumann
of Jul.y 10, 1985 SECOND D. Smith
A YES Unanimous
CONSENT CALENDAR
1. Request for intersection vision
zone a�ong the north curb line � -
of Collins Ave. , easterly of
Ma.Z.Zard St.
Bruce Ram
Orange Police Department
RECOMMENDA TION: Approve MOTION D. Turner
SECOND D. Smith
AYES Unanimous
2. Request for driveway vision zone
at 1845 E. Orangewood Ave.
(dri veway is located on east
side of Eckhoff St. northerly
of Orangewood Ave.)
Robert A. Arter
Nationwide Insurance
1845 E. Orangewood Ave. .
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Orange, CA 9266�3
Mary M. Kerckhoff
McCombs Marzagement Co. , Inc. �
2392 Morse Ave. -
Irvine, CA 92714
RECOMMENDATION: Approve MOTION D. Turner
SECOND D. Smith
AYES Unanimous
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3. Request for intersection visio
zone at the southeast and
southwest corners of S.
Bedford Rd. and W. Palmyra Ave
Do.rothy Dreger
3.15 S. Bedford Rd. , #3
Orange, CA 92668
RECOMMENDATION: Approve MOTION D. Turner
SECOND D. Smith
AYES Unanimous
4. Request far intersection
vision zone at N. Shattuck P1.
and E. Walnut St.
Arline Minor
384 N. Shattuck PI. � �
Orange, CA 92668
RECOiKMENDATION: Approve MOTION D. Turner
SECOND D. Smith
AYES Unani mo u.s
5. Request for in;.�ersection
vision zone at the northeast
corner of W. Palmyra Ave. and
Fe1 dner Rd.
Zosima Leyson
1633 W. Palmyra Ave.
Orange, CA 92668
REC4MMENDATION: Deny MOTION D. Turner
SECOND D. Smi th
AYES Unanimous
6. Request tor bus stop location
on E. Chapman Ave. at Canyon
Vi ew Ave. �
Orange Cou.ntz� Transit District
P.O. Box 3005
Garden Grove, CA 92642
RECOMMENDA TION: Approve MOTION D. Turner
SECOND D. Smith �
AYES Unanimous
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GONSIDERATION ITEMS
1: Request for instal.lation of � A STOP sign traffic stud� has been conducte.d
STCP sign �t tl?e i nter�e��i��i . at_. the intersection of Chestnut .Ave. and .
- of Chestnut Ave. and. Shaffer S . Shaffer St. �
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Shuji Maruko Existing Conditions
1603 N.: Shaffer St. :
Orar�ge; CA 92667 Both Shaffer St. and Ches�nut Ave. are
residential roadways near the study area.
� � ' These two streets form a T-intersection (3 legs),
. _ no traffic regulatory sign controlling
, : approaching traffic is instal.Zed at this
locatiori. Field investigation indicates no
' sign:zficant deficiency in street design,
_ alignment; stirping and signing. _
Traffic Volume Characteristics
� - PM peak period (4-6 PM) turning count at this
; intersection indicates a total `.intersection
of 76 vehicles duri.rig the peak traffic hour.
60 vehicles were caunt'ed. on Chestnut Ave.
during the peak hours.
: Accldent Histor� -
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No recorded accidents were :found in .the past
' . _ three years at this intersection.
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The intersection of Shaffer S.t:. and Chestnut
Ave. satisfies. the minimum warrant for I-way
. STOP sign, but �fails� to meet the minimum
: warrants for 3-way STQP signe .
� Recommendation . .
: �' Based on �the above .STOP sign anal�sis, the
�f .: , recommendation of the Traffic Engineering �
Divisio.n is to control .approaeh�irig traffic on
Shaffer St. at Chestnut Ave. .with a STOP sign.
._ ` _ appropriate stop bar.and lege.nd wi.Zl be
i � a� instal.led accordingly. : :
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CONSIDERATION I�"EMS CONT'D. Nlr. Shuj? Maruko briefly discussed the need
for STOP control (3-way) as motorist.s are
� � using too. inuch speed while traveling along
. . � Ghes.tnut Ave. He feel.s that a I-way STOP
would only encourage speeding on Chestnut
` whi.le people wou:ld have to stop at Shaffer St.
� He also indicated that he had discussed the .
. ; ` problem with hi.s neighbor:s and has their
support. in seeking this STOP:control measure.
. Sgt. Ordonez indicated that the Folice Dept.
will implement' a speczal patrol for speeding
_ on various day a:nd at various times utilizing
� radar equipment during the next few weeks .
' and check into thi.s situation.
D. Turner indicated that there is a 3-way
STOP just south of. this 'intersection a� Trer�ton .
and Shaffer on the other side of the railroad
tracks. :
. ' ' G. Shaw reca.Zled that the� residents. on Tr.enton
, did not like the STOP sign as the noise of
vehic.Zes slowing, stopp:ing and ac.celerating
-�y � as a res.ul� from the STOP sign became annoying
to them.
D. Turner'made _the motion. that we continue
' , � this issue for one month. In .the meantime _
Mr. Maruko wi11 circul,ate a petition in the
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neighbor.hood to gather support for: a 3�way
: " STOP control.�which we will look at during
the next Commission meeting: a1so, the ORD
` ; � ; � wi1l establish a special speeding patrol `of
� � that area as ari interim measure. _ � ;
RECONIMENDATIONr ; Continue � , � _ -
to.next Cornmission meeting. ' MOTION , D, 'Turner � `. _
; SECOND D, Smith � '
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�IZ"� T�.��'FIC CO�iISSIOI� _
P�INU�'E5 C)F � k.ZEGULAR P�EETING ` _
August 14, 1985 . �
A�.�A MOTIOI3 :MINUTES .: .
CONSIDERATION ITEMS GONT'D.
2: Request for angle-parking � ' The basis for tne request is to provide more. _
. and additional handicapped � convenient parking access .in the above public
parking spaces in the City pa:�xing 1o�t for senior citzzeri� re�urning �o
� Pub.Zic Pa.rking .Zot immei�iate.Zy the community center. This request was
north of the Orange Senior generated in a meeting between the City of
� Citizens Community'. Center. Orange Police Dept. and the Senior Citizen
� : Community Center. .
E.Zizabeth Graybeel
Orange Senior Citizens The Senior Citizens Center is requesting to
Community Center ., convert the existing row of parking spaces
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170 S. Olive St. (I6 regular and 2 handicapped spaces) in the'
Orange, CA 92667 above 1ot .immediate3y adjacent to t.he: center
inta angle parking, and tq provide all spaces
_ -. o:n the side near` the center�.for handica:pped
uses on.Zy.
Converting the szde af parking spaces near _
� the Seni;or Ci t i zen Communi t y Cerz t'er in ta
` handicapped uses on1 y wi.Zl resu3t in a total .
loss of three stal,Zs, as each .handicapped space
, requires more� than 5Oi of the width of a _
` regular parking sta11.. Frovidi:ng angle spaces
''- - � in the above a�ea wi11 reduce at .Zeast another
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parking sta1.Z, bringing the total loss of four .
' � � spaces from the original eight. _
. It is th� �sta�f's observation that the parking
� : area adjacent to the Se:nior�Community Center
` ': .in this pub.Zic �1ot has rendered service
. _ ; _ primarily to the seniors and their visi�ors.
Sueh drastic reduction of parking spaces would
only impose additional constrain� on the
already: congested parki�ig area,` and o.n the'
contrary cause more inconvenience to the
: , seniors as they would have to- park their
vehicles farther away due to the high parking
, , , , utilizat.�on in the 1ot.
. � The recommendation of the Traffic Engineering
Division that the request for angle-parking y
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, denied to maxzmize the high parki:ng demand
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�'ITI�UTE5 OF A �EGULr�.R MEETII�G . -
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AG��i3t� � �'i�TION ��IINUTE�
CONSIDERATION ITEMS CONT'D. Elizabeth Graybee.Z, upon .Zistening to .the
_ staff report iridicated her request that this
issu.e be removed from the agenda. Her. request
, was based on�the fact that the senior cen�er
. cou.Zd- not affor'd-: �c�o �l.oase �re �a�ki�g s�aces _ .
� . they currently have available to t.l�emW, .:She ,
did, however, suggest as:, a possible-�,alter.native
that additional parl�ing spaces within the
public .Zot be dedicated`for the exclusive use
of senior citizens utilizing the center.
. G: Shaw said that her .suggestion should be
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discussed with Bernie Dennis, Traffic Eng.in.eer
_ : a:�d be looked into as a: separate. agenda item,
RECOMMENDATION: Den y MOTION G. Sha w
. SECOND D. Smith _ .
AYES Un ani mou s
3. Request for pedestrian cross- � Basis of thi�s request is to prov:�de a marked
walk, 1:egend and signing on - interseetion crosswalk on S. Olive St. at
01ive St. at AZmond Ave. A.Zmond Ave. �for primari.Zy the con:venience of
senior citizens wishing .�o shop at the
Satellite Market. Fie:Id ob,�erVations. from
- -staff a`t the aba:ve intersectiori have reported
. the frequent utilizatian of pEdestrians
crossing 01ive St. from both sides, of Almo.nd
` : Avenue. fihe staff also realizes the difficult.y
� of sen.iors cr.ossing streets. It i.s therefore
� the recominendation. of the Traffic Engineering
� . Division that a pe:destrian. crosswalk be .
. ` : ` pxovided. on Olive St, crossing �he north side
of Almond Avenue. - :
. To encourage more _cooperatiox� from the users
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; and. the� :utilization .of such a crosswalk,
: necessaxy. pedestrian. crosisng sig,ns wi11 be
posted on Olive Street.
M. Baumann made the motion far the approval
' ; . of the reques� far the installation of the
crosswalk `at Oli�e and.A.Zmond. and that ,
� addition:al.Zy a11 necessary advance warning
. signing be installed concurrently. We wi11
. � additioxia.Zly, requested insta.Zlation of some
• � e . type of dire�tional markings be posted at the
. �� + . seniors community. center indicating t.�e use
of the crosswalk. * �.
MOTION ' M. Baumann ' .
SECOND D.: Turner �
AYES Unanimous
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CONSIDERATION ITEMS CONT`D.
4. Request for a pedestrian The basis for this request is .to provide a
crosswa.Zk be installed at safe pedestrian crossing to Bergen Brunswig
4000 Metropolitan Drive.� Corp. employees utilizing the City Shopping
Center facil.ities.
Bernard J. Hale, Ph.D.
Bergen Brunswig Corp. Staff's field inspections during mid-day
4000 Metropo.Zitan Dr. period did ref.Zect a high pedestrian activity
Orange, CA 92668 as employees utilize the shopping center. The
nearest existing crosswalk is located at the
intersection of Metropolitan Dr./La�mpson Ave.
and Lewis St. , approximately 850 feet west of
the study area. The c.Zosest intersection to
the east of t.he study area is at Metropolitan
Dr. and City Parkway South, again more than
800 feet of distance from the study area. It
� .i:s t.rie staff's opinion that such lengths are
far beyond the typical wa.Zking distance for� �
the pedestrians at the study area to use
either one of the above two intersections to
cross Metropo.Zi tan Dri ve.
The recommendation of the Traffic Engineering
Division is to install a pedestrian crosswalk
' in front of 4000 Metropolitan Drive. Necessary
advance pedestrian crosswalk legends and
signing wil..Z be instal.Zed accordingly. .I�
should be made known to the petitioners t.hat
a posted pedestria.n sign or a painted
pedestrian crosswalk by itself wil.l not bring
the 1eve1 of safety as expected by the
petitioners. Shou�.d t:he crosswalk be placed,
it is also the company's responsibility to
educate its employees to exerc.ise maximum
caution when using this facility.
D. Turn.er made the motion to approve the
request for the instal.Zation of this crosswa.Zk
along wi�h appropriate warning signing and
_tegend s. Addi tionall y, we request tha t the
petitioner educate it's employees to use
safety measures when utilizing the crosswalk
facility.
MOTI011T D'. Turner .
• SECOND D. Smith
AYES Unanimous
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CONSIDERATION ITEMS CONT'D.
5. R�quest for on-street parking .
removal on Santiago Blvd.
between Lincoln Ave./Noh1 Ranch .
Rd. and the nortl2ern Ci t y .Zimi t .
Kitty Yackle
5455 E, Garrich Dr.
Anaheim, CA 92807
RECOMMENDA TION: Continue for
one month for further study. MOTION G. Shaw
SECOND D. Turner
AYES Unanimous � �
6. Request for 4-way STOP control A STOP sign warrant study has been conducted at
at the intersection of E. Mayfa r the intersection of E. Mayfair Ave. and
and N. California Street. N. California Street. Both California St. a�r�d
Mayfair Ave. are 1oca1 residentia.Z streets.
Marilyn Jensen
.Z202 E. Mayfair Ave, Field study indicates no deficiency in street
Orange, CA 92667 design and alignment. AlI. signing and
striping are clearly visible to ve.hicle
operators.
PM peak period (4-6 PM) turning counts at this
intersection indi.cate a total volume of 138
vehicles during the peak traffic hour. 54
vehic.Zes were counted on California St. , and
84 vehicles on Mayfair Ave. during the same
hour.
No recorded accidents have been reported at the
inter�ection during the past .Z2 months,
The intersection of Mayfair Ave. and California
St. satisfies the warrant requirements for
4-way STOP control based on the counted
traffic volumes,
The recommendation of the Traffic Engineering
Division is to approve the request for a 4-way
STOP control at the i.ntersection of California
St. and Mayfair Avenue. Necessary stop bar,
legend and intersection vision zone (red curb)
� wi1.Z be instal.Zed accordingl�.
MOTION M. Baumann
SECOND D. Turner
. AYES Unanimous
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CONSIDERATION TTEMS CONT'D.
7. Request for installation of A traffic study has been conducted at the
STOP sign at the intersection intersection of De1 Valle Ave. and Esplanade
�f �T. De�, Va11e Ave. and Street. .
Esplarzade Street.
De� Va11e Ave. and Esp.Zanade St. i.ntersect
Da.uid F. Wright and form a T-intersection (3 legs) . This
Pain Associate� of Orange Count intersection is not controlled. No inter-
2617 E. Chapman Ave., #312 section geometry/alignment deficiency is
Orange, CA 92669 found here.
PM peak period (4-6 PM) turning counts at this
Iocation indi cate a total intersection volume
of 124 vehicles during the peak traffic hour.
45 vel�ic.Zes were counted on Del Va.Z.Ze �ve.
while 79 vehicles were observed on E,�planade
St. enteri.ng into this intersection in the
PM peak hour. � �
There have been no recorded accidents at the
intersection of Del Va11e Ave. and Esplanade
St. in �he past 12 months.
The intersection satisf.zes both 1-way and
' 3-way STOP sign warrants by meeting the
minimum traffic volume and traffic ratio
criteria, though no accident history nor
inte.r�section geometry/a.Zignment problem
was detected.
The recommendation vf the Traffic Engine�ring
Division is that a.Z.Z approaches of �his
inters�ction be co,ntro.Zled by STOP signs.
D. Turner made the motion to approve the
request and install 3-way STOP control at
this intersection wi�th a11 appropriate
' warning signs and .Zegends.
MOTION D. Turner
SECOND D. Smith
AYES Unanimous
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8. Request for 2-hour .Zimited The City Traffic Commissi.on has received
parking on Mi11s Dr. between several requests to implement a two hour
it.s westerly end and parking limit on Mi11s. Dr. and portions of
Poinsetta Dr, and on F.Zower St. Flower Street. The basis for the request,
between Mi11s Dr. and Almond Av . as indicated by the applican.ts, is an influx
of a1.Z day parking from the commerGial
Tirr� Smith d'eve.Zopments at or near the intersection of
2314 W. Almond Ave. Chapman Ave. and Flower Street.
Orange, CA 92667
� There are r�mification.s to sucl� an insta.Zlation
. that may direct.Zy affect the residents.
The time limits and .restri'ctions, 2 Hour limit,
9am-6pm; Satur.day, Sunday and ho�idays excluded,
apply to a11 vehic.Zes parked on the street.
Waivers i,n the form of "-covering" the signs �for
special eve.nts would require a 15 day advance
notice, approval of a11 residents who would be
affected by the "covering", and the assuming
of a11 labor and equipment cost incurred by
the City to facilitate the request.
' If the request is approved the City will
ins�all the signs on a total block unit basis.
If, after a 6 month trial period the signing
and subsequent restrictions do not prove
satisfaetorz� to the majority of the affected
residents, we will remove the signs and pos�s.
We wil.1 not, thereafter, reinstall the signs.
If the request is approved there is no stated
or implied obligation on the part of the City
to provide alternative parking for those
residents who: a) have more vehicles than they
can store on their own premises; or b) have
� types of vehicles that they cannot store on
. their own premises.
Scott Montgomery spoke in opposition to the
proposed 2-Hour Parking Limitation. He feels
that perhaps a parking permit program could be
effective.
. G. Shaw made the motion that the Traffic
Comr�nission receive and file this report with
� the unders�anding that the Commission wi11 do
nothing further� until Tim Smith can bring
forward evidence of popular demand for 2-Hour
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CONSIDERATION ITEMS CONT'D. Limited Parking control be instituted on
this street.
MOTION G. Shaw
SECOND M. Baumann �
AYES Unanimous