05-08-1985 - Minutes TC � CITY TRAFFIC COMMISSION
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� May 8, 1985
AGENDA MOTION MINUTES
R4LL CALL PRESENT Commissioners: G. Shaw, M. Baumann,
D. Turner, D. Smith
Staft: B.Dennis, Lt. Da wson,
Sgt. Ordonez
ABSENT Commissioners : D. Yarger
APPROVAL OF M.INUTES MOTION D. Turner
SECOND D. Smith
AYES Unanimous
CONSENT CALENDAR
A. Request for Intersection Vision Request for intersection vision zone 60'
Zone/On-street Parking Remova.Z on Walnut Ave. at the Southwest corner
South side of Wa.Znut Ave. at of Walnut Ave. and Shattuck P1.
Shattuck P1. in Orange �
Traffic Engr. Div. Staff
RECOMMENDATION: APPROVE MOTION M. Baumann
SECOND D. Smith
AYES Unanimous
B. Request for Intersection Vision Request for intersection vision zone 30'
Zone/On-street Parking Removal on Tustin St. at the Northwest corner of
Y�est side of Tustin St. at Tustin St. and Washington Ave.
Washingtan Ave.
Judy B1air
196 S. Shattuck P1.
Orange, CA 92666
REeDMMENDATION: APPROVE MOTION M. Baumann
SECOND D. Smith
AYES Unanimous
C. Request for On-street Parking A request for on-street parking removal
5outh side of Marmon Ave. at the subject Iocation was initiated by
between Esplanade St. and residents of the 200 to 300 block of
Earlham St. S. Wrightwood, Orange in October, 1984.
Kristin Wood This request for parking removal was
243 S. Esplanade St. , #1 approved by the Traffic Commission on
� Orange, CA 92669 October 15, 1984; but the problem was :
not traffic oriented. .
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Therefore this request for or�-��tr�et �
parking was expected as a result of the
parking shortage in this neighborhood and
it is the opinion af this Commission to
refer this item back to the City Council.
RECOMMENDATION: REFER TO THE
CITY COUNCIL MOTION D. Turner
SECOND M. Baumann
AYE5 Unanimous
CONSIDERATION ITEMS
1. Request for Traffic Signal at The intersection of Tustin St. and Quincy
Tustin St. and Quincy St. Ave./Post Office, b�sed on today's
Joseph J. Stodolla potential traffic demand, meets t.he
.Z046 N. Tustin St. , Suite B required warrants for a traffic signal.
Oranqe, CA 92667 However, in the evaluation of whether to
signalize this intersection, the following
factors must be considered:
1. � The Post Office currently has three
entry and exit driveways and wi11 most
likely do so in the future to maintain
smooth traffic circulation into and
out of its parking lot. Signalizing
this intersection and thus controlling
on1 y one dri veway, wi11 not regulate
a11 traffic destined for the Post
Office. _
2. The existing traffic exiting pattern
from the Post Office is prohibited to
_ � right turn on1y. Fie1d study indicates
that such traffic turning operation
has success�'u11y discharged exiting
traffic from the Post Office, while
ma.intaining adequate internal traffic
circulation within the parking Iot.
3. The total traffic demand in thi s
. signal war.rant study refl�c.ts..the .
� worst case situation at this
. intersection. � -
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� 4. The ma jor concerns of the �-�- --���- �-
petitioner and 1oca1 residents are
twofold. One is the difficulty of
pedestrians crossing Tustin St.
accessing the Post Office. The other
is the concern for accident occurring
at t1u s intersection. There are at
the most three accidents in the past
year that are potentially correctable
with a traffic signal control device
at this intersection. The pedestrian
street crossing difficulty ma.y be
improved through other remedial
applications, such as better delineat=
ion of crosswalk, installation of
reflectors an.d advance warning signs.
From the previous discussion, it is .
c.Iear that to ensure a traffic signal
operating properly at this inter-
section wi11 definitely require
extensive redesign and realignment
of the Post Office parking 1ot and
its internal circulation. The City
Traffic Engineering Division wi1.Z
initiate discussion on thi s subject
with t12e Postal Service.
. RECOMMENDATION OF STUDY
The Traffic Division's recommendation is
to pursue additional study both in terms
of the coordination with and cooperation
from the Postal Service, prior to
submitting consideration of funding for
a traffic signal at the intersection of
Tustin St. and Quincy Ave./Post Office.
RECOMMENDATION: CONTINUE FOR MOTION D. Turner �
FURTHER STUDY SECOND D. Smith
AYES Unanimous
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2. Request for installation of a The intersection of Chapman Ave'-:�and� �
Traffic Signal at the inter- Canyon View Ave. , based on today'�s traffic
section of Chapman Ave. and level did not meet the required warrants
Canyon View Ave. �'c�r a traffic signal.
Donald J. Peak, President
Old Chapman Townhomes Changes are anticipated within the
Homeowners Association residentia-1y developed area along
Canyon Vi.ew Ave. that would result in an
increase in traffic volumes on this street
accessing Chapman Ave. The future usage
of Canyon View Ave. wi1.Z be increased
substantial3y after its expansion to
Newport Ave. and the proposed development
on the east side of the City.
But prior to these developments, the traffi�
data at this intersection failed to meet
the min.imum criteria for the installation
of a traffic signal. It is therefore
recommended that the request for a traffic
signal at the intersection of Chapman Ave.
and Canyon View Ave. be denied until a
justifiable traffic 1eve1 is reached.
RECOMMENDATION: DENY MOTION G. Shaw
SECOND D. Turner
.AYES Unanimous
3. Request to change existing Mr. A1 Lewis, President of the Homeowners ,
school bus pick-up location at Association of this community has contacted
Chapman Ave. and Brambles Way Mr. Norman Mock, of the Orange Unified
to a new location in the School District who came out to review the
Pheasant Run community. suggested relocation area and felt it was
AZ Lewis, President okay. Mr. Lewis provided photographs to
Pheasant Run Homeowners Assoc. the Commissionexs of the current pick-up
7150 Cambria Circle location denoting the possible dangers the
Orange, CA 92669 children are exposed to, (high speed of
vehicles on the street, distance of•
pick-up station to curb of the street,
no lighting o.f the area. Mr. Lewis has
the support of the homeowners association
. in their request and has also"protrzded a
' we.Zl 1it, protected alternative location
on this private street to acccimbdate the
pick-up area. , � ,
Mr. Bernie Dennis, City Traffic Engineer
ind.icated that there are several develop-
ments in the East Orange area where such
pick-up locations could be changed for
the continued safety of the children.
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Commissioner Baumann indicated�-tha�---�he
would present the proposal to the
Orange Uni fied School District and show
them the photographs of the existing
conditions and the dangers posed.
Commissioner Shaw requested that the
City Traffic Engineer prepare a letter
to the Orange Unified School District
of the findings of thi.s Commission's
findings and approva.Z of this change in
location of the school bus pick-up area.
Mr. Bernie Dennis indicated that he would
have a Ietter available to Commissioner
Baumann by Friday to accompany the
photographs for hi s presentation to the
School District in this 'regard.
RECOMMENDATION: APPROVAL MOTION G. Shaw
SECOND D. Smith
AYES Unanimous
4. Request for insta.Z.Zation of Due to the increased traffic volume and
pedestrian crosswalk at the Iack of left-turn pocket on Glassell
Glassell and Pa.Zmyra. St. , pedestrians are experiencing
Sandra Gunther increasing difficulty crossing GZasse.Z1 St.
275 N. Main St. � It is the recommendation of the Traffic
Orange, CA 92667 Engineering Division to install a -
. pedestrian crosswalk on the south side of
Glassell St. at Palmyra Ave. and to alert
motorists and enhance the crossing
. pedestrians safety.
RECOMMENDATION: APPROVE MOTION M. Baumann
SECOND D. Turner
AYES Unanimous
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