03-13-1985 - Minutes TC C.ITY TRA.FFIC C0�'lISSION , • -
T�iINUTES OF A REGULAR MEETING
March 13, 1985
AGENDA MOTION MINUTES
ROLL CALL PRESENT Commissioners: G. Shaw, M. Baumann,
D. Smith, D. Turner,
- D. Yarqer
Staff: B. Dennis, P. Kelley,
, Lt. Scherer, Sgr. Hernandez
APPROVAL OF f�9INUTES MOTION D. Yarger
SECOND D. Turner
Meeting of February 13, 1985 AYES Unanimous
CONSENT CALENDAR
A. Request for Vision Zone
Mr. & Mrs. Hard �
175 N. Feldner
Orange, CA 92668
RECOP�1MENDATION: APPROVE MOTION M. Baumann
SECOND D. Yarger
AYES Unanimous
B. Request for Intersection
Vi si on Zone @ Taft
Mark Schmidt, President -
Walsh Enterprises, Inc.
1633 W. Leslie Way
Orange, CA 92667
RECOMMENDATION: APPROVE MOTION M. Baumann
SECOND D. Yarger
AYES Unanimous
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March 13, 1985
AGENDA MOTION MINUTES
CONSIDERATION ITEMS
1. Preliminary Report on Tustin Mr. Dennis presented a preliminary report on
Street Parking Removal , south the proposed Tustin Street parking removal .
City limits to north city limits. He indicated that the report focus and format
wou1d include manual traffic turning counts,
� accident data, parking analysis and full
seven (7) day traffic flow counts (ADT).
- Other items for attention will include
. alternative off-street parking and a program
for phasing the implementation. Anticipated
sectioning of Tustin Street will most likely
be:
Lincoln Aue. to Meats Ave.
Meats Ave. to Katella Ave.
Katella Ave. to Collins Ave.
Collins Ave. to Chapman Av�e.
Chapman Ave. to LaVeta Ave.
LaVeta Ave. to Fairhaven Ave.
Anticipated concerns to the requested parking
removal will most likely include the loss of
"convenience" parking, off-street parking
facilities , hardships because of past planninc
requirements and redevelopment issues. It is
anticipated that the Chamber of Commerce will _
support the request as they have supported a
similar request on Chapman Avenue.
REC��IMENDATION: RECEIVE & FILE MOTIO�N D. Smith
SECOND D. Turner
AYES Unanimous
Z. Status Report on Parkin� Removal This item is on the Council Agenda for -
East Chapman Avenue from Tustin P�arch 19, 1985, 7 PM session. The City has
Street to Crawford Canyon Road. received merchant support far the requested
parking removal and it is anticipated that
there will be increased citizen participation
at the Council meeting, especially from
those apartment areas most greatly af�fected
by the proposal (i .e. , Chapman & First -
County area Chapman at James and Chapman at
Rancho Santiago) . _ �
RECOMMENDATION: RECEIVE & FILE MOTIOPJ D. Smith .
SECOND D. Turner �
AYES Unanimous
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March 13 1985
AGENDA � MOTION MINUTES
CONS I DERATI ON I TEP�1S CONT'D.
3o Neighborhood Traffic Diversion Mr. Dennis gave the staff report, the purpose
Study California-Lincoln between of the study and analysis was to determine
Katella and Adams. the magnitude of through traffic using the
California - Wilson - Lincoln residential
RECOMMENDATION: , street system, and, if applicable, propose
mitigation measures to reduce or avoid the
. The Commission take no action traffic impacts to the neighborhood.
at this meeting other than to
solicit public input as to any Three primary provisos will be used in
additional alternatives the considering and recommending mitigation
applicants may wish considered, measures:
and to suggest an evening meeting
with the Study Area neighborhood The action should not impact adjacent
and others which the staff will neighborhoods by "shifting" the problem.
arrange.
The action must be acceptable to at least
the majority of the residents.
If traffic control devices are required,
these devices will conform to accepted
standards to preclude or minimize any
bossible liability to the City of Orange,
� it's officers and employees.
The study area encompasses three distinct —
land uses; commercial , condominium and
single family residential . Access to the
_ single and condominium units are restricted
to the California - Wilson - Lincoln Street
system while the commercial uses have access
to both California Street and Katella Avenue.
Controlled access from the study area to -
Katella is provided by a five phase traffic
signal with protected east and westbound
left turns. There is no additional north-
south street access to Katella between
Tustin Street and Cambridge Street. .
Adams provides the only "thru" east-west
access in the �rea.
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CONSIDERATION ITEMS CONT'D. It is the contention of the residents that
�- traffic resu�ltant from the commercial land
uses on Katella and the siqnal controlled
intersection of Katella and California have
increased traffic levels within the
, residentially developed segments of the
street beyond an acceptable level and has
. als�o resulted in increased speed, accident
potential and commercial traffic.
To determine the magnitude of thru traffic,
probable origin and destination and traffic
inherent to the neighborhood, the following
traffic counts were taken over a seven day
period on:
California S/of Katella Loc. 1
California S/of the Condominiums Loc. 2
Lincoln N/of Adams Loc. 3
These counts provide the basis for determininc
the traffic volume characteristics with each v
land use per street segment. Two days were
selected as condition norms, Tuesday as an
"average" weekday and Friday as representative
� of a peak or maximum use condition. —
To determine probable origin and destination
��ithin and outside of the Study Area, a peak
and off-peak hour license plate suruey was
conducted at count locations 2 and 3
concurrent with a turning movement count at
Lincoln and Adams. A computer match of
license plate numbers in conjunction with the
turning movements by plate number allows by
expansion a reasonable estimate of oriqin
and destination on an hourly and dai_ly basis.
Origin and destination in the context ,of this
study is applicable only to traffic entering
and leaving the Study Area not, as is
commonly associated with the terminology,
where the driver works, what shoppi_r�_��n_ter
he is qoing to `or what freeway he is bound for
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March 13, 1985
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CONSIDERATION ITEMS CONT'D. Each type of land use has been found to -� .
"generate" on a daily basis, a particular
average number of vehicle trips per day.
GJithin a range of generation rates, the socio
economic enivronment of the land use, its
distances from schools, shopping and employ-
" � ment and availability of public transporation
are the general criteria leading to the
� selection of a specific rate.
Based on these factors , the following
qeneration rates were used and the total of
the single and condominiums land use trip
ends per day is assumed to be the inherent
neighborhood traffic.
Generation Trip Ends
Land Use Units Rate Per Day
Sing1e Family 27 12 324
Condominium 39 7 Z73
Total Inherent
T.E./Day 597
(600)
Note: 600 trip ends represent 300 inbound
and 300 outbound trips per day.
Based on the study date, it can be concluded —
that the California - UJilson - Lincoln
Street system is being subjected to traffic
. in excess of that inherent with the
residential land uses presently existing in
the immediate study area.
This condition can be expected on any
residential street, with the exception of a
cul-de-sac, by virtue of the fact that a
block or two bock segment of a street is not
an entity, but instead is a part of a total
street system serving, generally, a series
of neiahborhoods. �
A residential street is what the name implies;
a s�rvice facility for residential access.
If the street or �segment thereof e�cceeds an
average daily traffic volume of 1400-1600
. vehicles per day (the tolerance level ) this
is generally an indication that the street is
being subjected to a secondary use, most
frequently as a by-pass or due .to 1 ack. of
alternate routes. The California - Wilson -
� Li ncol n Street system wi thi n the resi den'��.���y
` developed areas is approaching the tolerance
. level .
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CONSIDERATION ITEMS CONT'D. It is important to .note that the basis of
_ this analysis is directed toward the
residential segments of the street with
references and conclusions pertaining to
the commercial . .
' In view of the street system characteristics
within the Study Area and the general area,
� it us unlikely that disincentives can be
introduced that will not be severely
.. penalizing toward both those being discouragec
from using the California - Wilson - Lincoln
Street system and those living in the Study
Area.
Typical disincentives and their internal and
external affect include:
Fu11 Closure - Installation of a modified
cul-de-sac at either residentia1 end of the
California - Wilson - Lincoln Street system
would reduce total traffic to the inherent
level .
This option would, conversely, greatly
increase circuity from the Study Area, divert -
north-south traffic to Adams and result in
a 1500 foot cul-de-sac which would require
mitigation in its own right to be acceptable
to the Fire Department.
Two physical concerns with a closure is the
additional right-of-way and street width
necessary to develop a "turn-around" at -
either end and, the configuration of the
loop driveway serving the condominiums which
could result with one drive being on either
side of the closure.
Partial Closure - This disincentive would be
a physical closure of one half of the street,
at either end, and would theoretically reduce
traffic to the inherent level plus._i�nbound
traffic from the opposite end.
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CONSIDERATION ITEMS CONT'D. As with the full closure, circuity and �
diversion would occur but to a lesser
degree. An added problem would be that of
enforcer�ent. In a relatively isolated area
the temptation to "go around" the partial
, closure would certainly exist.
Divertor at Lincoln and Adams - This feature
would a11ow right turns only from Lincoln
onto Adams and from Adams onto Lincoln �hus
eliminating 40-50/ of the Study. Area traffic.
Study and general area circuity would be
significantly impacted and diversion to
Adams would occur.
One Way Street System (Residential Area) -
Th�s optlon would have basically the same
affect in traffic reduction as the partial
closure.
,
The circuity within the Study Area would be
significantly impacted as access to the
� entire area would be via either Katella or
Lincoln/Adams.
Katella/California Signal Modification -
This option would �involve elimination of
the subject signal entirely or the westbound
- to southbound left turn phase on the premise
that access to the Study Area would be more
difficult and thus avoided.
As the signal was installed to provide -
.controlled access to and from Katella for
both the commercial land uses and the
residential uses adjacent to and including
the Study Area and, as the distinct
possibility of liability exists in downgrading
the signal to a lower level of safety, this
alternative is not a viable option.
Any miti�ation measure suggested or a.pproved
has impacts on the adjacent neighborhoods
outside of the Study Area and could most
certainly affect travel patterns in a
one-half square mile area.
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AGENDA MOTION MINUTES
CONSIDERATION ITEMS CONT'D. There has also, historically, b.een
. disagreements within the Study Area as to
what, if any, corrective actions should be
taken.
MOTION G. Shaw
SECOND D. Turner
� AYES Unanimous
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