10-12-1988 - Minutes TC CITY OF ORANGE
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CITY ZR1�FE�'IC QONIl�RISSION
Date of Meeting: October 12, 1988
ROLL CALL: PRESENT - Commissioners: M. Baumann, �'. S�iarra, D. Smith
� 1�.. Turn�r, D. Yarger
Staff: B. Dennis, G. Minshew, Lt. Leintz, C. Glass
D. Al lenbach, P. �.'hen
ABSENT - Commissioners:
Staff: �
M4TION
UO1�S�T' CALENDAR
1. Removal of yellow crosswalk on Taft Ave. at Fern St.
Ronald ti'V. Of sthun
�111 Ee Jackson Ave,
Orange, CA 92667 �O�TION D. Turner
S�C)OND �[. Baumann
RECO�IMENUATION: APPR+OVE AYES Unani�ou.s
2. Request for the installation af a driveway vision zone at 1822 N. Gl.assell St.
Floyd Fields
1822 Ne Glassell St.
Orang�, CA 92665 �(7TION D. Turner
S�QOND �. Ba.�uma:�n.
RECOIl�NIE1�dDATTON: APPR�OV� AYES ITn�.n.i�us
3. Request for th� installation caf a forklift/truck crossing zone on Almand
A.ve. at Ja.meson St.
Joel Wright
City of Orange Water Plant
RECOMMENDATION: APPI�OVE in�ta;ll�.tiOn. Of 'IIQUIP�".� CR�SSING' sig�nS an�d.
driv��.y v�sion zone.
�ION D. Turner
SE'KJ�ND �. &�.luna.nn
AYES Unanimous
CITY OF ORANGE
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MOTION
GDNSENT �ALENDAR .
4. Installation of a driveway vision zone at 1J75 N. Batavia �St.
Christopher J. �WY�.elpley
1975 N. Batavia St. �
Orange, CA J2665 MO�TION D. 7.'urn.er
� S�OOND M. Batamann
RECOMMENDATION: APPR!OVE AYE�S Unanimous
5. Installation of a passenger loading zone at 485 N. Center St.
Chapman College �
Orange, GA 92666 �TION D. Turner
S�OODID �. Ba.�utnan.n
RECOMMENDATION: .APPR�OVE . AYES � Una rei mn�
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6. Installation of 'No Parking � Street Sv�eeping' restrictians on the north
side of Struck Av�. from Batavia S�. ta its easterly terminus.
Traffic Engineering Divi�ion
Ca.ty of Orange A�ION D. Turner
S�C�OND �. Ba.uma.nn
RECONIlVIENDATZON; APPR�OVE AYES Un�imo�us
'�, Request for the installatic�n of pedestrian crosswalks at the inters�ction of
Meats Ave. and Featherhill Dr. �
Leslie S. Brown
2507 E. Shallow Brook Ln. �
Orange, GA 92667 �ION D. Turner
� � S�OOND �. �3a.u�na,nn
RECOMMENDA'�IO�N; APPR�OVE AYES �Tn�,ni tr�at��
8. Requ�st for an adult crossing guard at the intersection of Palmyra Ave. an
Ca.mbridge St.
Jean Davis
412 S. Shaf f er St.
Orange, CA 92666 �IO1V D. Turner
S�(JOND M. �a.umann
RECOMMENDATION: APP1�i0VE AYES �Tnani mrn��
CITY OF ORANGE
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MOTION.
QOI�SENT CA�[.,EL�TDAR
9. Installation. of a Loading Zone at the mail baxes located at 1056 Lawson Wa�r.
U. S. Postal Service
3101 W. Sunflower Ave. �
Sa�ta Ana, CA 92799-9703 MO�TION D. Turner
S�1�D �. Baunuann
RECONIlUIENDAT ION: APPROVE AYES Unanimous ,
(XJNSIDEBATION IT�S
A. Request for the installation of STQP �ontrol devices at the intersection of
Lincoln St. and Locust Ave. , and the install�.tion af speed bumps in the
adjacent alley.
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Dana Kay Sigala �
1440 E. Locust Ave. #3 `
Qrange, GA 92667
RECOMMENDAT I ON: APPR�OVE OI�E-�AY S'i�OP and DENY SP� BU�PS.
�OTION A�. Ba.uma.nn
�S�i00ND D. Turner
� AYE�S � U�nj.mous
B. R�quest to. prohibit left turns on Katella Ave, between SR� 55 Fwy. - and
Tustin St. - _
Barbara DeNir� .
1118 E. Ac�ams Ave.
Orange, CA 92667 �
Discussion
Barbara DeNirQ -- The accidents �.o not show the number of u.nre�orted:
accidents which have occurred along this stretch of roadway. I did request
th� 'Na Lef t Turns` bec�.use we h.a.ve twca service stati.ons. Maybe you cc�uld
prohibit left turns at peak hou.rs. There are alot of mot�rists making
U-turns in this area and it creates alot af problems. The metered ramps
�tend. to slow traf�ic tryi�ng to make left and right turns. We could install
painted isla�.ds instead af raised media.n.s.
Howard Swett/Ch�vron Station - We should notify as �aany business people as
gossibl�. I thir�.k you shauld eliminate any U-turns at this intersection
c�mpletely.
CITY OF ORANGE
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MOTION
(JONSIDEE�ATION ITE�S � � �
B. Dennis - I don't believ� staff is opposed tca th� installation of raised
med�ans ar to pro�.ibit left turn.s.. �ut we need �to pr�sent th�m at a full =
public he�.ring. We are not opposed t� a raised m�dian �as all people
affected by the ramifications, etc. and the �ost of these islands i�
$400,OC10 without lands�aping = $75/Linear Ft. inish�d; a.ra.d all people
s�ould get the oppo.rtunity to give their opinion.
RECOMMENDATION: QD�1'TINUE 'TifJ JANUARY 1989 �OR P�IBI:sIC AE�ING.
�ION D. Yarger .
� SE�OOND D. S�nith
AYES Unani rm�
C. Implemen�tation of a neighborhood parking� permit prog�am �n bo�h sides of �
the 400 black o� N. Harwood St. ; and the east side of the 500 block af N. �
Harwood St.
M. J. Martini
�3S E. Walx�ut Ave.
Orange, CA 92667
Disc�sion .
Lewis Br-own: - What does the permit �nean? Can we park in front of our own
houses and nobody el�e can park there? I� it just far special times?
D�.ve Al�enbach - Explained how the progra�m works.
Barbara DeNiro - What do .we do du.r�.ng special events such as the Street ;
Fair?
Bernie Dennis - We have handled speci�.l events in conjunction-with �he - - - �
parking perznit area� in sev�ral ways; such as 3-�5 times a year the:signs
would la� cav�red an�. there would be na enforcement such as �hapman
graduation, etc. In xegard to other areas you would have t� expect the
signs to be cavered for a two day period.
RE�OMMENDATION: APPRiOVE MC�'�ION D. Yarger
S�OOND M. Bau�aann
AYES Un,animous
CITY OF ORANGE . .
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MOTION
CJONSIDEE�A.TION ITIII�S .
D. Request for the i�.stallation of a painted crosswalk at 6�0 S. Glassell St,
John ti11. Hoopaugh
620 S. Glassell St.
Oran�e, CA 926�6 . �ION - D. Yarger
S�C�OND D. Smit}�.
RECOMMENDATSON: DENY AYFS Unani�ous
E. Implementtaion of a neighborhood parking permit program on both si�.es of
the 100 block of W. Palm Av�.
Pierce W. Lyden
291 N. Oliv� St.
Orange, CA 9�666 � �ION � D. Y�.rger
S�00ND F. S�ciarra
RECOMMENDATION: .APPR�OVE AYES Unanimous
F, Request for street closure on Chestnut Ave. at Tustin St. and th�
inst�.11ation of a 3-Way STOP cantrol device at the intersection of Chestnut
Ave. arbd Maplewood St.
Margar�t Yadon �
1032 E. Chestnut Ave. - -
Orange, `�A 92667 ,
Discussion (8 Favor Closure - 28 Oppose Closure)
M. Y�.don - I started the p�tition and alot af p�opl� signed the petition
that the�r are in favor of the closure. We were a�ked to wait until Trenton -
closure to see h.ow it would affect the traffie on Chestnut. Toy�ta and
Parnelli use the street to � test their repaired cars.. I just don't see
slowe� traffic ori the street.
Katzberg - I want to adol to the overview �.nd I think it was a resu.lt af
Toyota's expansion.
Gino - This is a convenient access to arterial streets. I don`t see why
four pepple can chang� the n�ighborhood that will affect around 250
fa.milies. This street is 34 ft. wide .and with cars parked on the street a
fire engir�e could not have room to turn ar�ound. and it could make all th�
difference in an em�rgency.
C. Skagg� - The a.ssue is to control the tra.ffic from coming onto Chestnut.
� I am in favar of the closure.
S. Bolger - The number af cars and the sp�ed of these cars, and all tk�.e
kids playing. There is no age limit to speeding matorists.
C I'I�' OF ORANGE
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�ate of Meeting: Qctober 12, 1988
MOTION
`C�ONSIDEEdATION ITENIS � �
J. Freedman - We have heard rumors about a petition on Chestnut b�:t we had --
not been taken. into consideration. We had a s�hort tim� before this meeting
but we hav� a petition here today of �75 people who oppose t�.e �losure. If
yau c�ntemplate �,ny closur� make it temporary and_r_epeat_the counts. ___ _______________ _ ____ __-
Susa.n. B. - I hav� �two girls and I'm scared to death t�at my 3 yr. old, when
she rides her tricycle dawn the street, there is alot of speeding on the
street and i�ts nat just young/Qld people. We would like something done
to slow traffic.
M. Uipperman - Everything we have heard is about speeding and if we can put
a cauple of police officers out the�e on a conc�ntrated. enforcement effort
it will h�lp reduce �peeding.
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L. Gawn - �he speeding up and dawn the stre�t is awful. I think the trucks '
are using Chestnut becaus� they ar� not allowed an �aft.
H. Hannibal - I think the r�ajor problem is speed and I can't remember any
accid�nts in the area. I don't think a STOP sign will slow traffic.
L. Long - I arrr� cor�cerned with the speed �.nd if th.ere is anather way to
alleviate this p�roblem we would be very happy:
V. Marks��.- I recommen.d maybe a left-turn signal phase �.t.Taft/Tustin.
Bernie Dera.nis - A lef t-turn phase is. budgeted for th� next f iscal y�ar.
Cildren at Play signs have no enforcement valt�e, but they give you a false �
sense of security.
V. .Ander�on - Th� COUritST 1S gY'OWlla.g and people are. driving fast. All I can
say is for people to watch their kids and. maybe we can get mare poli�e
ez�forcement when possible. �
RECOMMENDATION-: _DEi�iY__- _ _._ _ _ _ __ _ _ __ __ _ __ _ _ __ �dOITION_ _ ___ _D.__Yarger . _
. S�CJOND �. Bautna.�n
AYFS TJnani.m�us
Go Request f�� the installation of 'No Parking Anytime' restrictions at 311
and 313 W. Walnut Ave.
Traffic Engineering Division
City of prange
RECOMMENDATION: APPR�OVE �ION D. Turner
S�OO1�D D. Smith
AYES Un�.nimous
CITY OF ORANGE
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�ate of Meeting: October 12, 1988
MOTION
C70NSTDEBATION IT.F.�i�S
H. I�equest for the installation of parking restrictions on Parl�er St.. at LaVeta
Ave. .
Traffic Engineering Division
City of Orange _�O�TION _ F. �cia.rra
� S�OO1�D D. Turner
R�COMMENDATION: APPI�OVE AYES Una,nimous
I. Request fc�r the in�tallation of a passenger loading zone, red curb and
crosswalk for Cambr�dge Elem�ntary School in proximity to S�camore Ave, and
Waverly Ave. �
Cambridge El.em�ntary S�hool
425 N. Cambrid�e St. � i .
Orange, .CA 92666 �ION � F. Sciarra
S�OOND D. Tur�.e�
RECO�MENDAT IQN: .APPI�OVE AYES Unani.mous
J. Rsquest for the installat�on of All-way STOP control devices and an
additianal �rosswalk at the intersect�.on of Sycamore Ave. and Waverly Ave.
Peter Holrnstram
333 N. W�verly St. � �
Orange, CA 9�F.66 . � _
RECOIIMZENDATI(JN: AP�OVE O1V�-�AY S"i�P & DENY C:'R�SS�TALK .
. MO�TIOI� D. Yarger �
S�CX)ND D. Turmer
AYFS Unanimous
K. Adjournm�nt