11-19-1991 Council MinutesAPPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL ON NOVEMBER 26,
CITY COUNCIL MINUTES
OF A REGULAR MEETING
1991.
ORANGE, CALIFORNIA
NOVEMBER 19, 1991
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The City Council of the city of Orange, California convened this 19th
day of November, 1991 at 1:30 p.m. in the Council Chambers, 300 E.
Chapman Avenue. Oranae. California.
1:30 P.M. SESSION
1. OPENING
ROLL CALL:
PRESENT: steiner, Barrera, Mayor Beyer, Coontz
ABSENT: Spurgeon
MOTION - Mayor Beyer SECOND -
Barrera AYES - steiner,
Barrera, Mayor Beyer, Coontz ABSENT - Spurgeon Moved
to recess to
Executive Session for the following purposes:a. To confer
with
its attorney regarding potential litigation pursuant to Government
Code Section 54956.9(b)1) .b. To consider
and
take possible action upon such other matters as are orally
announced by the City Attorney, City Manager, or city Council
prior to such recess, unless the motion to recess indicates
any of the matters will not be considered in closed session.
3:00 P.M.
SESSION 1.1 PLEDGE OF
ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG l.2 ROLL CALL
Steiner, Mayor Beyer, spurgeon
Barrera (arrived at 3:15
p.m.)Coontz (present at 7:00 p.
m.)1.3 APPROVAL OF MINUTES - None
PRESENT ABSENT Page 1
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1.4 PRESENTATIONS/ANNOUNCEMENTS/INTRODUCTIONS
Mayor Beyer introduced Weblos Pack 52, Den 4, Sue Gillford
Leader from La Veta and Taft Schools.
Mayor Beyer also introduced Yolanda Benson, Aide to
Assemblyman Mickey Conroy and Assemblyman Conroy.
Assemblyman Conroy presented Councilman Steiner with an
autographed picture of willie Brown.
1.5 PROCLAMATIONS - None 2.
CONSENT CALENDAR 2.
1 Declaration of City Clerk Marilyn J. Jensen declaring posting of
City Council Agenda of a regular meeting of November 19,1991,
at Orange civic Center, Main Library, New Police Facility
at 1107 N. Batavia and the Eisenhower Park Bulletin Board;
all of said locations being in the city of Orange and freely
accessible to members of the public at least 72 hours before
commencement of said regular meeting.ACTION:
Accepted Declaration of Agenda Posting and authorized
its retention as a public record in the Office of the
city Clerk.2.
2 Request city Council approve the donation of unusable traffic paint
to our sister City, Queretaro, Mexico. (P2500.0)ACTION:
Approved.2.
3 Authorize the library to purchase 32 megabytes of memory for the
Automated Library System for $32,756.00 allocated in Account
500-2004-781301-9302 (Automated Library
System -Furniture, Machinery, Equipment Additions). (C2500.
I)ACTION:
Approved.2.4 Admission of the City of Lake Forest as part
of Foothill/Eastern Transportation Corridor Agency. (A2100.
0 A.1147.B.
1)ACTION:
Approved.2.5 Request from Chapman University for temporary suspension
of permit parking restrictions (Area A) on Thursday,
December 12, 1991. (S4000.S.3.
1)ACTION:
Approved.Page
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2. CONSENT CALENDAR (Continued)
2.6 Receive request from Charles Moe to consider the reconveyance
of vehicle access rights from Santiago Blvd. to properties
located at 2138 and 2148 orangeview Lane (Parcels 65 and 66
of Tract No. 6937). (V1300.0)
ACTION: Referred to Department of Public Works Staff for
report.
MOTION - Spurgeon SECOND -
steiner AYES - Steiner,
Mayor Beyer, Spurgeon ABSENT - Barrera, Coontz
All items on the
Consent Calendar were approved as recommended.END OF CONSENT CALENDAR
NOTE: Mayor Pro Tem
Barrera arrived at 3:15 p.m.3. REPORTS FROM MAYOR
BEYER 3.1 Request from
Chamber of Commerce to allow the use of banners between November 19, 1991
and January 10, 1992, exempt from ordinance time limits, and waive
banner permit fees for the same period.A2500.0 Banners)Bruce
Patrick, 1733 N.
Modoc Street, spoke on behalf of the Chamber of Commerce and small
business owners, in favor of this proposal.MOTION - Barrera SECOND - Mayor
Beyer AYES - Steiner,
Barrera, Mayor Beyer, Spurgeon
ABSENT - Coontz Moved to approve request from
Chamber of Commerce
to allow the use of banners between November 19, 1991 and January 10,
1992, exempt from ordinance time limits, and waive banner permit fees
for the same period.4. REPORTS FROM COUNCILMEMBERS - None 5. REPORTS
FROM
BOARDS. COMMITTEES AND COMMISSIONS - None 6.
ADMINISTRATIVE REPORTS - None 7. REPORTS FROM CITY MANAGER - None
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CITY COUNCIL MINUTES NOVEMBER 19, 1991
8.LEGAL AFFAIRS TAPE 504
8.1 RESOLUTION NO. 7907 C2500.M)
A Resolution of the City Council of the City of Orange expressing
appreciation to Carl H. Gaither of the Orange Public Works Department
and commending him for 29 years of loyal and dedicated service.
MOTION - steiner SECOND -
Spurgeon AYES - Steiner,
Barrera, Mayor Beyer, Spurgeon ABSENT - Coontz That
Resolution No. 7907
as introduced be adopted and same was passed and adopted by the
preceding vote.8.2 RESOLUTION NO.
7890 A4000.0 No. 390)A Resolution of the
City Council of the city of Orange granting Appeal No. 390 and
approving Conditional Use Permit No. 1922-91.Appellant: Miguel A.
Eizenga.MOTION - steiner SECOND -
Barrera AYES - Steiner,
Barrera, Mayor Beyer,
Spurgeon ABSENT - Coontz Moved to continue this
item to the
7:00 p.m. Session.9. RECESS TO THE MEETING OF THE
ORANGE REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY 10. ORAL PRESENTATIONS - None 11. RECESS THE
CITY COUNCIL RECESSED AT 3:
35 P.
M. AND RECONVENED AT 7:00 P.M.MOTION - Mayor Beyer SECOND - Barrera AYES - Steiner, Barrera,
Mayor Beyer, Spurgeon ABSENT -
Coontz Moved to
recess to Executive Session for continued discussion
of the items
listed on page 1 of the agenda and the minutes.The
City Attorney announced they would also be considering, pursuant to Government
Code Section 54956.9 (a), the pending case of:Lanz
vs. citv of Oranae, Orange County Superior Court Case 56 64
85.No action was taken.Page 4
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7:00 P.M. SESSION
12. INVOCATION - Pastor Rick Lake, Orange Hills Baptist Church 12.
1 PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG 12.
2 ANNOUNCEMENTS - None 12.3
INTRODUCTIONS - None 12.4 PROCLAMATIONS -
None 12.5 PRESENTATIONS - None
NOTE:The following item was
continued from the 3:00 p.m. session:8.2 RESOLUTION NO. 7890
A4000.0 No. 390)A Resolution of the city
Council of the City of Orange granting Appeal No. 390 and approving
Conditional Use Permit No. 1922-91.Appellant: Miguel A. Eizenga.
MOTION - steiner SECOND - Coontz
AYES - steiner, Barrera,
Coontz NOES - Mayor
Beyer, spurgeon That Resolution NO.
7890 as introduced be adopted
and same was passed and adopted by the preceding vote.13. PUBLIC
HEARINGS 13.1 GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT
NO. 2-91.
GROWTH MANAGEMENT ELEMENT.CITY OF ORANGE: (C2300.E GPA No.
2-91) TAPE 738 Time set for a public hearing
on petition by the city of Orange to consider the adoption of a Growth
Management Element as a requirement of the Revised Traffic and Growth
Management Ordinance (Measure M)approved by Orange County voters on
November 6, 1990, thereby qualifying the City of Orange to
be eligible to receive new Measure M transportation revenues.NOTE: Negative Declaration 1389-
91 has
been filed by the Environmental Review Board on this
project.The Advance Planning Administrator reported
Staff has drafted the Growth Management Element as a
response to the Measure M legislation approved by the Orange County
voters last November. This Growth Management Element is the only
remaining significant requirement still to be adopted by
the City that will qualify Orange for funding under Measure M.Page 5
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13. PUBLIC HEARINGS (Continued)
There are still several lawsuits pending that are holding up
funding. The orange County Transportation Authority anticipates
those lawsuits will be settled by the first of next year.
There are two ways cities can classify themselves in developing a
Growth Management Element under Measure M. The first way is as a
developed city, where infrastructure, including Fire, police and
Flood Control facilities, are in place and only transportation issues
need to be addressed.
The second way is as a developing city, in which a variety of
infrastructure needs have yet to be developed. For the purposes of
orange's Growth Management Element, the City is considered a
developed city, with the public infrastructure almost fully
developed. Staff proposes that with the first Specific Plan for East
Orange, a major amendment to the Growth Management Element will be
developed, addressing transportation public facilities for the East
Orange area. The existing City is being considered a developed city
and therefore the Growth Management Element does not include the
other types of public infrastructure, only transportation facilities.
This element contains policies for planning and provisions for
traffic improvements necessary for orderly growth and developments as
identified in the Measure M legislation, the programs included are:
Level of Service standards
Development Mitigation Programs
Development Phasing, and
Annual Monitoring Programs
The current draft of the Growth Management Element before the city
council, as recommended by the Planning commission, is the fifth
draft, which includes input from both Public Works and community
Development Departments, as well as the Transportation Planning
Committee, chaired by Councilwoman Coontz, and The Irvine company.
The original draft of the element was based on the League of cities'
model element, with modifications, including elimination of
comprehensive phasing provisions that are presently implemented
through the Orange County Growth Management Element on major projects
within the County. Orange has not proposed comprehensive phasing
because of the multiplicity of small parcels within the city.
The Transportation Planning Committee reviewed the element on August
21st. The Planning Commission held a Study Session to review the
draft element on September 23rd and a public hearing on October
21st. They recommended the city Council ratify the Environmental
Review Board's Negative Declaration 1389-91 and approve the
Growth Management Element, identified as General Plan Amendment 2-
91. The City Council is encouraged to take action as soon as possible,
so the City is qualified by the first of January to receive
funds, assuming the pending law suits are settled
by then.
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13. PUBLIC HEARINGS (Continued)
councilwoman Coontz mentioned she knew there had been a number of
drafts and there have been recommendations from individuals and
organizations. Council has the fourth draft, not the fifth draft.
The Advance Planning Administrator indicated there is a fifth draft,
which is what the Planning Commission considered. Council was
supposed to have the fifth draft, although the only differences
between the fourth and fifth draft are some word changes recommended
by The Irvine company. They are not significant changes.
The one addition is in regard to the means of mitigating
transportation impacts on projects. These words identify three
different ways of mitigating traffic impacts. Originally, Staff
identified one way. The Irvine Company asked that it be specified
there are three different ways: the developer constructing
improvements, other people constructing improvements, such as Cal
Trans and the freeway system, or the third way is mitigation fees
that would be required, similar to the TSIP fees. That was the
primary difference between the fourth and fifth draft. Apparently,
the wrong draft was included in the Council packets.
Council wanted to see the fifth draft before taking action on it.
Councilman steiner asked for clarification on Staff's position to
consider the city a developed city and not include what is happening
in East orange. The Advance Planning Administrator indicated the
issues regarding East Orange and the public infrastructure are not
fully discussed at the present time with the Irvine Company. Because
Staff felt these issues could not be fully addressed, a significant
amendment to the element will be required, to deal with the entire
7,100 acres. Staff has identified the City as a developed city,
except for The Irvine Ranch portion of Orange's sphere of influence.
With the first specific plan, the other public infrastructure would
be discussed, other than transportation issues.
Councilwoman Coontz asked if this is mentioned in the Growth
Management Element document. The Advance planning Administrator was
not sure if it was mentioned in the element itself. Councilwoman
Coontz felt the parameters should be explained in the document, so
there would be no false assumptions. Councilman Steiner felt the
General Plan Amendment for East orange was such a specific General
Plan Amendment, with so much detail and such a tremendous amount of
work done, it should be mentioned in the document what was
happening.
The Advance Planning Administrator mentioned the one remaining
problem is that all financial issues have not been identified. The
public financing program has not been established for that area,
which is what would affect the Growth Management Element: the
establishment of the comprehensive means of paying for all the public
facility infrastructure - POlice, Fire, libraries, flood control channels,
as a part of East Orange.Page
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13. PUBLIC HEARINGS (Continued)
MAYOR BEYER OPENED THE PUBLIC HEARING.
Frank Elfend, Elfend and Associates, 4675 Mac Arthur Court, Suite
660, Newport Beach, spoke on behalf of several clients of their
firm. They have reviewed the Growth Management Element and feel the
City Staff has done a very good job in preparing the document. Their
staff has spent time with Gary Johnson, Bernie Dennis, and Frank Page
discussing the City's regional transportation planning efforts, as
well as some of the local planning efforts.
They are supportive of Orange's Growth Management Element process
overall, since it will provide needed funding to local agencies for
improvements. The adoption of this Growth Management Element will
have some very profound effects on the manner in which the
development community processes an application in the City of
Orange. The development process in general is a very complex one.
The adoption of the Growth Management Element in orange and other
cities will make the process somewhat more complicated.
Their firm wants to make sure what is adopted has enough information
and clarifies the process, so their clients, when they come into the
City and process their application, know what the rules are for their
property.
The general Growth Management Element as structured is composed of
two different parts: it has a section that deals with new
development fees, and a section that deals with a development-
phasing program. His comments were based on the fifth draft of the
Growth Management Element. Their primary concern is on the
future implementation of the
plan.The way the plan is structured, there are a series of new
fees discussed throughout the Growth Management Element. There is
a Deficient Intersection Mitigation Fee", which is to be determined
by all jurisdictions, in what is known as the Growth Management
areas.This is a new fee, created by this City and other cities in
the County in conjunction with evaluating regional transportation
impacts on page 10 of the report). There is something discussed in
the report called a "Regional Traffic Mitigation Fee" (page 10, item
1).They are not sure if this a part of the "Deficient Intersection
Fee"or whether it is a new fee. When a developer comes to the city
and looks at this document, it will be unclear what fee that applies
to.On page 10, item 2, there is also mentioned a "Traffic
Impact Shortfall Mitigation Fee", which is a third fee. It is also
unclear on exactly what that is. There is a fourth fee called
a Transport ion Impact Fee" for improvements within the City on
page 10, item 2. It is unclear whether this is the TSIP
fee.Page
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13. PUBLIC HEARINGS (Continued)
Elfend & Associates was very heavily involved when the city adopted
their TSIP fee. They agreed to it as a part of the development
agreement process for the Serrano Heights project. When it was
enacted, it was to provide a funding mechanism for subregional
improvements. That is another fee.
On page 7, item D, there is a "Development Phasing Program Mitigation
Fee", which is the fifth fee included in the report. Based upon
their discussions with Gary Johnson, Frank Page and Bernie Dennis,
they know there is likely to be another fee, which will be a part of
the state's Congestion Management Plan process. They call it a
Congestion Management Plan Impact Mitigation Fee", which would be
the sixth fee.
In addition to those six fees, the City has their TSIP fee, which is
the Transportation Systems and Improvement Program fee. When they
read this from a procedural standpoint and since somebody is going to
ascertain which fees will or will not be applied, they would like to
have the most direction in terms of what are new fees and what are
not new fees, and exactly how they will be applied.
The second part of the Growth Management Element deals with a
Development Phasing Program. This is also a very important part of
the proposal. It requires the preparation of a Development Phasing
Plan for all new projects. They have seen other agencies working on
their Growth Management Elements. In their Growth Management
Elements, some other agencies have an exemption procedure. For
example the State, in the adoption of their Congestion Management
Plan, has an exemption for projects that have a Development
Agreement. They assume the Serrano Heights project, which has an
approved Development Agreement, would be exempted since it is a new
policy and a new rule. When the Development Agreement was
negotiated, all the policies in place at the time were what they
assumed they would be responsible for.
They also assume that projects which are phased projects with some
sort of vested right would be exempt from this process. They would
like to see an exemption clause in the adopting ordinance which
stipulates that those projects are exempted from the Growth
Management Element.
In summary, they would like Staff to answer four basic questions:
1. Clarification of the new fees. Words are used
inter-changably. They want to make sure when there is a
comment regarding or definition of a fee, that if the fee is discussed
one way on one page and another way on another page, it is the same
fee.In their experience in processing something, they feel it is
easier to have it clarified now, than have to clarify it with someone at
the
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13. PUBLIC HEARINGS (Continued)
2. They would like to see how the new fees are going to
integrate with existing fees. The City has a TSIP fee. They haven't
seen a capital Improvement Program. There may be one available, but
he hasn't seen what the City is proposing in that area. They would
like to see an integration of the information in the Growth
Management Element.
3. They would like to have a clarification and verification
regarding where and how this will be applied. It is their
understanding it will not apply, as the CMP does not apply, to
projects with a development agreement, or a project with a phased
implementation program, where there is vested rights established.
4. Lastly, they would like to have a procedural road map
created, where a developer or his representative would have a road
map of how to comply with this process. This is one of many
processes that will be adopted locally and statewide. They would
like to have the maximum information, so when they sit down with
Staff members, they are all looking at the same memorandum which sets
forth that criteria.
councilwoman Coontz commented the Transportation Planning Committee
looked at this several drafts ago. One of the things she discussed
with Jere Murphy this afternoon was her feeling that requirements
should include the Transportation Demand Management Program, the
TSIP, 7-year Capital Improvement, Mitigation Monitoring, etc.
rather than just referring to those documents by reference. At the
counter there should be an understanding that all these go together,
because they are all required. The Growth Management Element is an
element of the General Plan, but its components should be included,
because they are so important. She also feels the whole plan should
be reviewed after the first two major projects, so we know we are
going in the right direction with it. Its such a new
field.Bob Bennyhoff, 10642 Morada Drive, commented he was one of
the birthing fathers" of the Growth Management Plan with the
County.This is a very important document. If the sales tax was
normal,about $1.7 million a year would be orange's share of the Measure
M funds. Also, the money from 119 and III comes from this. It
goes hand in hand with congestion Management and Transportation
Demand.They all have to fit together. The non-transportation part
of this can be taken care of with
East Orange.However, he thinks it might be a good idea to make some
reference in this document that other parts of the plan which are
not applicable to the current situation will be dealt with later, or
perhaps a restriction should be put in saying that any other portion
of the plan in the developing city cannot proceed until that part
of the element is
in place.
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13. PUBLIC HEARINGS (Continued)
He suggests the City look carefully at development agreements. He
wants to be sure that if development agreements or projects with
vesting rights are exempt, they have included traffic phasing
programs. There are some in existence without them. Woodcrest has a
very extensive phased development plan.
He was also interested in the difference between the TSIP fees and
some of the programs Woodcrest has. He wants the Growth Management
Element done right the first time. He feels there are enough valid
questions to warrant a study Session with the Planning commission.
It is important for Orange's plan to mesh with the five adjoining
cities. There will be times orange will be only one of five voting
members. The plan must be passed. Hopefully, it will be passed in
the best shape possible.
THERE BEING NO FURTHER SPEAKERS, MAYOR BEYER CLOSED THE PUBLIC
HEARING.
The Advance Planning Administrator reported Staff does not see this
element as creating any new programs in the city. They have packaged
existing programs. This is the same approach some adjacent cities
are taking, particularly Santa Ana and Anaheim. They are molding the
element to fit existing programs. The one area that might be looked
at will be the "Deficient Intersection fee", but that will not be
considered until some time next year.
Staff is presently talking about projects under Measure M with other
cities. Mayor Beyer, Councilwoman Coontz, and Councilman Spurgeon
are the representatives to the Growth Management areas, so they will
have an opportunity to review any proposed fees prior to a vote by
the Growth Management area organizations. Staff is concerned about
maintaining competitiveness with adjacent cities in terms of fees.
This is one reason they do not plan to add new fees to the existing
program.
Councilwoman Coontz felt some of these statements should be
clarified, added to or expanded, so that when reading it, a verbal
explanation is not necessary. This will prevent any misunderstanding
as to what this encompasses.
MOTION - Coontz SECOND -
Steiner AYES - Steiner,
Barrera, Mayor Beyer, Coontz, Spurgeon Moved for a
joint Study Session with the Planning Commission and the City Council on
the Growth Management Element, to be scheduled as soon as possible.
Staff to address problems and questions mentioned in this public
hearing prior to the Study Session and incorporate them into the
Growth Management Element. The public hearing is continued to December
lOth, 3:00 p.m. session.Page 11
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13. PUBLIC HEARINGS (Continued)
13.2 PRELIMINARY DRAFT. SOURCE REDUCTION RECYCLING ELEMENT AND
HOUSEHOLD HAZARDOUS WASTE ELEMENT: (C2300.L) TAPE 1823
Time set for a public hearing to consider the City of Orange's
preliminary draft, Source Reduction and Recycling Element, and the
Household Hazardous Waste Element, in compliance with State
legislation, Assembly Bill 939, the Integrated Waste Management Act
of 1989, which outlines specific plans the city will implement in
order to achieve a 25% reduction in refuse sent to landfills in 1995
and 50% reduction by the year 2000.
The Street Division Manager reported this public hearing is required
by law to give an opportunity for comments from the public. All
comments will be considered by Staff, for incorporation into the
final draft document. The final draft is scheduled for adopted by
the Council on December 10, 1991 at 3:00 p.m. After adoption, the
documents will be sent to the County of orange for incorporation with
all other County cities for an overall County Plan, which will be
submitted to the State of California for final approval before
January 1, 1994.
The Recycling Manager reported the SRRE mainly supports the county of
Orange plan, with certain tasks left up to the city to achieve. The
overall goals are:
To promote the solid waste management practices that lead to
reductions,
To incorporate the use of recycling and compost to divert
resources,
To be environmentally safe in disposal of what we do
landfill, and
Reduce the maximum amount possible of solid waste sent to
landfills, in compliance with this bill.
Council complimented Staff that our report was done in-house,
where many cities went outside to have theirs
done.MAYOR BEYER OPENED THE PUBLIC
HEARING.THERE BEING NO SPEAKERS PRESENT, MAYOR BEYER CLOSED THE
PUBLIC
HEARING.MOTION - Mayor Beyer
SECOND - Barrera AYES -
Steiner, Barrera, Mayor Beyer, Coontz, spurgeon Moved to
receive and file the draft report, Final Report to be presented to
Council on December 10, 1991.Page 12
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14. PLANNING AND ENVIRONMENT - None 15.
REPORTS FROM COUNCILMEMBERS - None 16. ORAL
PRESENTATIONS Larry Bonham,
332 S. Olive, addressed the Council regarding bumper and window
stickers. He feels everyone has the right to question authority, but
they have an obligation to support government and work with them.
17. ADJOURNMENT
MOTION - Barrera
SECOND - Spurgeon AYES -
Steiner, Barrera, Mayor
Beyer, Coontz, Spurgeon Moved to adjourn at 8:
00 p.m.1'11<:I(~~~ 0 :P~
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