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CITY
OF A
APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL ON OCTOBER 22,
COUNCIL MINUTES
REGULAR MEETING
1991.
ORANGE,
OCTOBER
CALIFORNIA
8, 1991
The City Council of the City of Orange, California convened this 8th
day of October, 1991 at 3:00 p.m. in the Council Chambers, 300 E.
Chapman Avenue. Orancre. California.
3:00 P.M. SESSION
1. OPENING
1. 1 PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG
1.2 ROLL CALL
PRESENT - Steiner, Barrera, Mayor Beyer, Coontz, Spurgeon ABSENT -
None 1.3
APPROVAL OF MINUTES Regular meeting -
September 17, 1991 MOTION - Steiner SECOND -
Barrera AYES - Steiner,
Barrera, Mayor Beyer,
Coontz, Spurgeon ACTION: Approved as amended.Regular meeting -
September 24, 1991 MOTION -
Barrera SECOND - Spurgeon AYES - Steiner, Barrera,
Mayor Beyer, Coontz,
Spurgeon ACTION: Approved.
Adjourned Regular Meeting - September 26, 1991 MOTION - Coontz
SECOND - Spurgeon
AYES - Steiner, Barrera, Mayor Beyer, Coontz, Spurgeon
ACTION: Approved.Adjourned
Regular Meeting - October
2, 1991.MOTION Barrera SECOND - Steiner AYES - Steiner,
Barrera, Mayor
Beyer, Coontz, Spurgeon ACTION: Approved.Page 1
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1.4 PRESENTATIONS/ANNOUNCEMENTS/INTRODUCTIONS
a. Mayor Beyer presented City Council Resolution No. 7885,
expressing appreciation to John V. Fonley of the orange
Water Department and commending him for more than 36 years
of loyal and dedicated service.
b. The Director of Public Works presented the "Recycler of
the Year" award to CMSI, for outstanding leadership and
participation in office paper recycling, as selected by the
city Hall Office Paper Recycling Committee.
c. Two new Police Officers, Peter Kelley and Don Lockridge,
were introduced by Police Chief Duncan.
d. Police Chief Duncan recognized the selection of Debbie
Klein as 1990/91 Crime Prevention Practitioner of the Year,
Southern Chapter, California Crime Prevention Officers
Association.
e. The Library Director introduced Valerie Stadelbacher,
Library Literacy Coordinator for the Library Literacy Grant.
f. The Recreation Manager gave an oral report on the
success of the First Annual "Camp Parker".
g. The Police Sergeant's badge was presented to David
Jensen. The Police Chief read a letter of commendation from
the District Attorney's office, which will go into Sergeant
Jensen's personnel file.
Council recessed to a brief reception in the Weimer Room,
and reconvened at 3:45 p.m.
1.5 PROCLAMATIONS - None 2.
CONSENT CALENDAR TAPE 720 2.
1 Declaration of city Clerk Marilyn J. Jensen declaring posting
of City Council Agenda of a regular meeting of October
8, 1991, at Orange Civic Center, Main Library, New Police
Facility at 1107 N. Batavia and the Eisenhower Park Bulletin
Board: all of said locations being in the city of orange
and freely accessible to members of the public at least
72 hours before commencement of said regular meeting.ACTION:
Accepted Declaration of Agenda Posting and authorized
its retention as a public record in the Office of the
city Clerk.Page
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2. CONSENT CALENDAR (Continued)
2.2 Authorize the Mayor and Director of Finance to draw warrants
on city Treasurer in payment of demands.
ACTION: Approved.
REMOVED AND HEARD SEPARATELY)
2.3 Request to relinquish access rights to Santa Ana Canyon Road
in association with the processing of Tentative Parcel Map
90-290, and Variance 1887-90 for the property
located at 1535 Ila Drive (Continued from 9/24/91). (C2500.M.
16.1)MOTION -
steiner SECOND - Barrera
AYES - steiner, Barrera, Mayor Beyer, coontz, spurgeon ACTION:
Moved to continue this item to the October 15, 1991 Council
meeting.2.
4 Request to approve the execution of loan documents to restructure
an existing loan under the Tustin Street Loan and
Grant Limited Partnership, for properties located at 1158
N. Tustin Street and 1520-1634 E. Katella Avenue (Loan
200-1091-002-20009). (
C2500.G.
l)ACTION: Approved.2.5 Request Authorization to approve a low
interest loan and authorize the City Treasurer to prepare a
check in the amount of $15,000.00 (Case #494). (C2500.G.
l
Low Interest
Loans)ACTION: Approved.2.6 Request approval to file a Notice of
Completion: Bid No.901-57: IVANKO, Inc.; Cumberland
Avenue Sewer from Shaffer Street to 1300 feet West. (
A2100.0
No. 1818)ACTION: Approved.2.7 Request approval to file a Notice
of Completion: Bid No.901-37: Vernon Paving
Company: Katella Avenue - Cambridge Street to 400 feet West of Tustin
Street. (A2100.
0.1764)ACTION: Approved.2.8 Request by st. Norbert's Church to
waive permit fee for their Oktoberfest festival
on October 11-
13, 1991.PI300.0.9) .ACTION:
Approved, subject
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2. CONSENT CALENDAR (Continued)
2.9 CLAIM FOR DAMAGES FROM:C3200.0)
a. MARGARET BELOVSKY for an alleged incident occurring on
or about June 14, 1991.
b. ROBERT MARTINEZ for an alleged incident occurring on or
about February 13, 1991.
c. BERNETTE ANDERSON for an alleged incident occurring on or
about May 1, 1991.
d. GAYLE BERARDINELLI for an alleged incident occurring on
or about August 8 & 9, 1991.
e. ROBERT STAMM for an alleged incident occurring on or
about August 9, 1991.
ACTION: Denied claims and referred to City Attorney and
Adjuster.
2.10 Request authorization to approve a Homeowner Participation
Grant and authorize the city Treasurer to prepare a check in
the amount of $2,000.00 (Case #510). (C2500.G.l.l
Homeowners Participation Grant)
ACTION: Approved.
2.11 Request authorization to approve a Homeowner Participation
Grant and authorize the City Treasurer to prepare a check in
the amount of $1,600.00 (Case #511). (C2500.G.l.l Homeowners
Participation Grant)
ACTION: Approved.
2.12 Request the city participate in a proposed County-
wide Service Authority for abandoned vehicles, which would
fund the cost of removal of abandoned vehicles from public
and private properties within all the cities and
unincorporated area in the County. (ORI800.0.3.
11)ACTION:
Approved.2.13 Request from William T. Burns and Bridget S. Marquart,
Coast Canine Resort Ranch, 606 w. Collins, Orange, to
waive variance and permit fees regarding the conversion of
the front yard to a parking lot at 606 W. Collins. (PI300.0.
9)ACTION:
Approved.Page
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2.CONSENT CALENDAR (Continued)
2.14 Approve and authorize the Mayor and City Clerk to sign an
agreement with the Friends of the Orange Public Library to
receive and hold funds donated to the City by the Friends
for the building and furnishing of a Local History Room in
the proposed new main library. (A2100.0 A.1858)
ACTION: Authorized the Mayor and City Clerk to execute
agreement on behalf of the City.
MOTION - Barrera SECOND -
Coontz AYES - Steiner,
Barrera, Mayor Beyer, Coontz, Spurgeon Item 2.3
was removed and heard separately. All other items on the Consent Calendar were
approved as recommended.END OF CONSENT
CALENDAR 3.REPORTS FROM
MAYOR BEYER - None 4.REPORTS FROM COUNCILMEMBERS
TAPE 760 Report from the Audit
Committee, Councilmembers Coontz and steiner,regarding Fiscal Monitoring/Goals
and Objectives. (See report on file in City Clerk'
s office.) (ORI800.0.82)The Councilmembers reported they
are aware of and concerned about the forthcoming 1992-93 budget,
since the economic recession has taken longer to turn
around than predicted. Sales tax revenues to the City are lower and
both State and County agencies have increased their pressure for allocation
of share funds.When the 1991-
92 City budget was adopted in June, Council directed the City
Manager to provide suggestions to develop a stronger Council/Staff
partnership in planning and evaluating future programs. The
City Manager has recommended Council conduct bi-monthly
department study sessions, but this provides a weak focus on
Council-generated goals.
Council sees their most important responsibility as developing
policies and setting goals for the community. The Audit Committee
suggests Council meet with the city Manager and Assistant city
Manager to determine some basic goals and objectives for the City.
This can be followed with bi-monthly department study sessions
with the Council. Then Council can meet to refine the original goals
and objectives. Advice, recommendations and information may be
provided by the different departments, but Council will have
the responsibility of setting
policy.The Mayor commented that council should be careful not to put
itself in a position of micro-managing
the budget.
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4.REPORTS FROM COUNCILMEMBERS (Continued)
MOTION - spurgeon SECOND -
Mayor Beyer AYES - steiner,
Barrera, Mayor Beyer, Coontz, Spurgeon Moved to accept
the report from the Audit committee and set a time in the near future
for the council to meet and discuss poI icy-making as it relates
to our goals and objectives for the annual budget sessions, which
will be starting in the near future.5.REPORTS
FROM BOARDS. COMMITTEES AND COMMISSIONS - None 6.ADMINISTRATIVE REPORTS -
None 7.REPORTS FROM CITY
MANAGER - None 8.LEGAL AFFAIRS TAPE 938
8.1 RESOLUTION NO. 7886
A2100.0 A.1818)A Resolution of the City
Council of the city of Orange finally accepting the completion of certain
public work and improvement: Bid No. 901-57: Ivanko, Inc.:
Cumberland Avenue sewer from Shaffer Street to 1300 feet west.
MOTION - Barrera SECOND - Coontz
AYES - steiner, Barrera,
Mayor Beyer, Coontz,
spurgeon That Resolution No. 7886 as introduced be
adopted and same was passed and adopted by the preceding vote.8.
2 RESOLUTION NO. 7887 A2100.0
A.1764)A Resolution of the city council of
the city of Orange finally accepting the completion of certain public work
and improvement: Bid No. 901-37: Vernon Paving company: Katella
Avenue - Cambridge Street to 400 feet west of Tustin street.
MOTION - Steiner SECOND - Barrera AYES - Steiner, Barrera,
Mayor Beyer, coontz,
spurgeon That Resolution
No. 7887 as introduced be adopted and same
was passed and adopted by the preceding vote.Page 6
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8. LEGAL AFFAIRS (Continued)
8.3 ORDINANCE NO. 19-91 (FIRST READING)S4000.S.3.
1)An Ordinance of the city Council of the city of Orange
prohibiting parking on public streets on specified days and at specified
times for the purpose of street
sweeping.MOTION - Barrera
SECOND - Coontz AYES -
Barrera, Mayor Beyer, Coontz, Spurgeon NOES - steiner
That Ordinance No.
19-91 have first reading waived and same was set for second
reading by the preceding vote.8.4
RESOLUTION NO. 7888 ORI800. 0.3.11)A Resolution
of the City Council of the City of Orange requesting establishment of
a service authority for abandoned vehicle abatement in Orange
County.MOTION - Coontz
SECOND - Barrera AYES -
Steiner, Barrera, Mayor
Beyer, Coontz, Spurgeon That Resolution No. 7888 as
introduced be adopted and same was passed and adopted by the preceding
vote.9. RECESS TO THE MEETING
OF THE ORANGE REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY 10.ORAL PRESENTATIONS TAPE 1125
Barbara DeNiro, 1118 E. Adams,
addressed the Council to express her support for the immigration raids.
Mary Rawuka, 872 Fairmont Way,
addressed the Council, requesting support for a real estate
problem. The City Attorney opined that the matter is not within the
purview of the Council. (RI200.0)Page 7
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THE CITY COUNCIL RECESSED AT 4:18 P.M. AND RECONVENED AT 7:00 P.M.
The City Council recessed to a Closed Session for the following
purposes:
a. To confer with its attorney regarding pending litigation
pursuant to Government Code section 54956.9(a), to wit:
city of Orancre vs. Donald D. Greek, Orange County Superior
Court Case No. 64 27 01
City of Orancre vs. Forum Insurance Co., California Court of
Appeals Case No. GOI0039.
End vs. city of Orancre, Orange County Superior Court Case
No. 59 70 17.
b. To meet and give directions to its authorized representative
regarding labor relations matters pursuant to Government
Code section 54957.6.
c. To consider and take possible action upon personnel matters
pursuant to Government Code section 54957.
d. To confer with its attorney regarding potential litigation
pursuant to Government Code section 54956.9(b) (1).
7:00 P.M. SESSION
11. INVOCATION - given by Pastor Ed Trenner, Grace Brethren Church.
11.
1 PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG 11.
2 ANNOUNCEMENTS - None 11.3
INTRODUCTIONS - None 11.4 PROCLAMATIONS -
None 11.5 PRESENTATIONS - None
12.PUBLIC HEARINGS TAPE 1605
12.1 PROTEST HEARING FOR
ANNEXATION NO. 392. FAIRHAVEN ISLANDS:Time set for a protest
hearing for Annexation No., 392, Fairhaven Islands, Area B, as directed
by the Local Agency Formation commission on September 11, 1991. (A3100.
0 No. 392)The property is comprised of
35.52 acres and is located northerly of Fairhaven Avenue, easterly of Yorba
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12. PUBLIC HEARINGS (Continued)
The Advance Planning Administrator reported Fairhaven Avenue and
Fairhaven Avenue extended to the east, was established as the
boundary between the cities of Tustin and Orange. The city of orange
has a policy of not forcing the residents to annex to the City.
Likewise, the City, in the early 1960's, did not mandate that
development occur only within annexed property. Therefore, some 15
county islands were developed within the City's sphere of influence.
The City continually receives strong encouragement from LAFCO to
annex these areas, in order to provide more efficient services to
them.
Starting in the mid-1980's, the Staff has written letters and
held meetings with the residents of the Fairhaven Islands (
Annexations 392, 393 and 394), discussing issues related to annexation to
the City of Orange. Those discussions have increased recently, due
in part to the incorporation proposal in the North Tustin area.
A formal request by a group of North Tustin residents to create a
new city of North Tustin is presently under consideration by the
Orange County Local Agency Formation Commission. This commission
has indicated, even if the incorporation effort is successful,
the Fairhaven Islands should not be included in the new city, but
should be annexed to Orange. This is for a variety of reasons,
including the
proximity.Several people within the Fairhaven Islands have indicated they
do not want to be part of the new city, because of financial
liability issues related to the new city. The residents have
collected signatures on petitions in support of annexation, which have
been submitted to LAFCO three or four months ago. Approximately 25-
30% of the residents have signed those petitions. On September
11, LAFCO approved the three Fairhaven Island annexations, subject
to several stipulations contained in the
LAFCO resolution.These islands should be annexed to Orange because they
are surrounded on three sides by the City of Orange. The city
presently provides some services to the area, including water and library
service. The islands are a part of the Orange Unified School District,
and the children living there presently go to Orange schools.
More efficient safety services can be provided by the City. A City fire
station is located 1 to 1 1/2 miles east of the properties. Police
cars patrol the areas surrounding these islands, in the
adjacent neighborhoods.The telephone prefixes for the island areas are considered
to be Orange prefixes by the
telephone company.The advantages for the residents would be a reduction in
water rates and trash pickup fees, and the additional services
of street sweeping, tree trimming, weed abatement, sewer and
storm drain cleaning. There would be no change in property taxes.
There would be no physical changes in the area, if it were
annexed. Residents could participate in
local elections.
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12. PUBLIC HEARINGS (continued)
MAYOR BEYER OPENED THE PUBLIC HEARING.
Mayor Beyer announced written protests should be submitted to the
city Clerk. Mayor Beyer reported written protests have been received
from Barbara and Jonathan White, Edward W. Hefner and Edwin L.
Drinkwater, group representative for No On The Annexation (NOTA),
with the owners opposed.
The following people spoke:
Edwin Drinkwater, 12862 Dunas Road, Santa Ana.
Mary Wedgeworth, 12922 Wheeler Place, Santa Ana.
Tim Felske, 12771 Wheeler Place, Santa Ana.
The made the following points:
They claim over 50% of the residents oppose the annexation.
The residents feel they should be able to vote on the annexation.
For Annexation No. 392 there are 99 homes: 78 protest signatures
were submitted, for a total of 79.8% opposed.
There are a total of 293 homes total in the 3 annexation areas.
Protest signatures of 203 homeowners, or 69.3%, were submitted.
The NOTA group requested council stop the annexation proceedings.
It was asked if sidewalks and trees would be added: the Advance
planning Administrator indicated there were not plans to do this.
The Director of Public Works indicated any requests for additional
improvements of this type would be generated by the residents.
It was asked if the properties would be resurveyed: the Advance
planning Administrator indicated there would be no adjustments to
property lines.
It was asked why this area is being targeted now. council said
the county has indicated they would like the cities to annex as many
of these island areas as possible, because they cannot afford to
serve them.
council discussed whether to leave the hearings open until the next
Council meeting. The city Clerk indicated signatures would be
verified at the County Registrar of voters, along with a map of all
affected areas. First, it would be determined who was eligible to
sign. Second, their signatures would be confirmed: they would be
authenticated and certified by the Registrar of voters. This would
be returned within 30 days and then the resolution would be adopted.
The Annexation Coordinator reported the 30 days starts when the
hearing is closed.
The Advance Planning Administrator commented some of the residents
had requested the hearing be held open in order to hold further
discussions with Staff and perhaps change their minds on the issue.
MOTION - Coontz SECOND -
spurgeon AYES - steiner,
Barrera, Mayor Beyer, coontz, spurgeon Moved to close
the public hearings on Items 12.1, 12.2 and 12.3 Annexations 392, 393
and 394).Page 10
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12. PUBLIC HEARINGS
MOTION - Mayor Beyer SECOND -
Barrera AYES - Steiner,
Barrera, Mayor Beyer, Coontz, Spurgeon Moved to direct
the City Clerk to verify signatures for Annexation No. 392 and
report back within 30 days with an appropriate resolution, based on
the percentage of protests received.12.2 PROTEST
HEARING FOR ANNEXATION NO. 393. FAIRHAVEN ISLANDS:Time set for
a protest hearing for Annexation No. 393, Fairhaven Islands, Area C,
as directed by the Local Agency Formation Commission on September 11,
1991. (A3100.0 No. 393)The property is
comprised of 18.32 acres and is located northerly of Fairhaven Avenue, easterly
of Laurinda Lane to Prospect Avenue.MAYOR BEYER OPENED
THE PUBLIC HEARING.The following people
spoke:Edward W. Heffner,
12891 Fieldstone.Georgann McKee, 12791 Wheeler
Place.Earl W. Lewis, 17971
Stearns Drive.Jack D. Jones, 12972
Wheeler.A. J. Aregger, 17922
Stearns, Santa Ana.Terry J. Tweedt, 17852
Romelle Avenue, Santa Ana.Norman D. Kohl, 17972
Romelle Avenue.Joe Fialkoff, 17881 Romelle
Avenue.They made the following
points:There were 48 homes
in this annexation area: 29 signatures opposing the annexation were obtained,
or 60.4%.The city has said there
would be no changes: the residents will be very unhappy if the city decides
to make changes.Some of the residents feel the
City of Orange has become more active in trying to annex this area
since North Tustin began actions to become a city.One resident complained
about problems with his
water bill, since the City of Orange has been used for
water service.Some residents are in favor of the annexation.
They do not understand the opposition. They are in favor of more
services at a lower price.Fees for remodeling with the City of
Orange are
less.When LAFCO approved these annexations, there were only two people
present at these meetings, and they were in favor of the
annexation.Some residents feel people who signed the petition in opposition did
not understand what they were signing.Some residents would welcome being
annexed to the City of orange.Economically,
location and security-wise, some residents feel they would be better off
in the City of orange.Page 11
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12. PUBLIC HEARINGS (Continued)
MOTION - Coontz SECOND -
Barrera AYES _ steiner,
Barrera, Mayor Beyer, Coontz, spurgeon Moved to
direct the city Clerk to verify signatures on Annexation No.393 and
report back within 30 days with an appropriate resolution,based on
the percentage of protests received.12.3
PROTEST HEARING FOR ANNEXATION NO. 394. FAIRHAVEN ISLANDS:Time set
for a protest hearing for Annexation No. 394, Fairhaven Islands, Area
D, as directed by the Local Agency Formation Commission on September
11, 1991. (A3100.0 No. 394)The property
is comprised of 43.33 acres and is located northerly of Fairhaven Avenue,
easterly of Prospect Avenue to westerly of Woodland Avenue.MAYOR
BEYER
OPENED THE PUBLIC HEARING.The following
people spoke:william Erhart,
18161 Romelle, Santa Ana.Some residents
feel there is no problem with emergency response time from
Fire and police.The dumpster
fees with Orange Disposal are much more expensive,which compensates
for the lower water water rates.MOTION - Coontz
SECOND - Barrera AYES _
steiner, Barrera, Mayor
Beyer, coontz, spurgeon Moved to direct the
city Clerk to verify signatures on Annexation No.394 and report back
within 30 days with an appropriate resolution,based on the percentage
of protests received.13. PLANNING AND ENVIRONMENT
13.1 Report by
Orange police Department on the Language and cultural Exchange Program with
sister city Queretaro, Mexico.Report on file in
city Clerk's office.) (C2500.K)MOTION - Mayor Beyer SECOND -
Barrera AYES _ steiner, Barrera,
Mayor Beyer, coontz,
Spurgeon Moved to receive and file report.
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13. PLANNING AND ENVIRONMENT (Continued)
13.2
City of
Clerk's
Report on Immigration funding project coalition attended by
Orange staff in Washington, D. C. (Report on file in City
office.) (C2500.K) TAPE 2-
50 Mayor Beyer commented the service infrastructure is on the verge
of collapse without immediate assistance. The city plans to
continue working with federal and state legislators, as well as county
and city officials to seek viable solutions to the immigration
population explosion impacting public services in
California.Police captain Hernandez reported the group, which was
represented from orange by the Code Enforcement Manager, the
Administrative Analyst from Community Services and himself, was seeking SLIAG (
State Legalization Impact Assistance Grants) funds made available from
the Immigration Reform and Control Act of 1986. The federal
government committed $4 billion in funding to offset the cost to local and
state governments to deal with documented and amnesty applicants. $
2 billion had been left in reserves and the government wanted to
defer that to 1993. The funds are needed now, but they were not
successful in obtaining these
funds.captain Hernandez felt the group was successful in raising
the consciousness of the congressional representatives to the plight
of immigration, both legal and illegal, in not only California and
the the border states, but the nation in general. California will be
the first to feel the impact of the reduced SLIAG funds. Work at
the grass roots level is needed
now.Councilwoman Coontz complimented the city staff members
who accompanied the coalition. Orange is on the cutting edge of
positive activity, that no one else in the county has accomplished. The
city will not give up to illegal immigration, and the problems that
have been illustrated. In the past, members of the council and
the community have contacted elected representatives at the Board
of supervisors, Congress, State Legislators, who have been taken
on tours through apartments, and the community. People have
written letters and sat down with them. However, our city
representatives discovered the people in Washington are unaware of the
problems,because our own elected representatives have not told them about
it.Councilman Steiner commented that Orange is not handling
the overcrowding problems through a policy of deportation in this
city.This is an affront to the City Council. Council believes
that reasonable standards of behavior should be established for
all citizens, which is the basis for the action within the city
with regard to overcrowding
problems.Mayor Pro Tem Barrera said he was shocked by the comments he
had heard from both sides. In the memo, one of the
coalition representatives mentioned there was an 'orange Curtain' over ?
range County. The problems are not getting out to the legislators
1n Washington. Mayor Beyer commended the Police and Code
Enforcement Departments for their
efforts.Page
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13. PLANNING AND ENVIRONMENT (continued)
MOTION - Mayor Beyer SECOND -
Barrera AYES - Steiner,
Barrera, Mayor Beyer, Coontz, Spurgeon Moved to: 1)
Develop a coalition of support with cities in and the County of Orange
for the reimbursement of federal funding to cities and counties for
services impacted by the legal and illegal immigrant population:2) Request
the
County of Orange and Orange County cities to provide statistical information
on the fiscal impact of immigration issues on county
and city services:3) Establish liaisons
with california congressional representatives to encourage
support for favorable legislation regarding immigration laws:
4) Form a
City council subcommittee task force to coordinate city policies with
city staff on immigration issues: and 5) Designate one
Staff Member to coordinate these issues,which are of
great magnitude.14. REPORTS FROM
COUNCILMEMBERS - None 15.ORAL PRESENTATIONS TAPE
1-3880 The
following people
addressed the council in opposition the Immigration Raids:Juan
Garcia.Mary
Ellen Martinet, 828
N. Bristol st., #204, Santa Ana.Andy Zamora, 3627 E.
washington Ave., Orange, Pastor of Orange Hispanic Covenant Church.Alfredo
Amezcua, 1030 W.
Glenwood, Santa Ana, President of Hispanic Chamber of Commerce.
Amen David, 419 S.
Polk st., Anaheim, President of Los Amigos of orange County.Rodney Burge,
9572 Madison #
2.John palacio, 929 corrigan
Ave., Santa Ana, representing the Mexican-American Legal Defense
and Educational Fund (MALDE).Conrad Diaz, 566
N. Grand, Exec. Director League of united Latin-American Citizens
for the State of california.They made
the following points:The Latino
community needs to be respected. They represent 23% of the population,
they pay taxes, produce and work.They don'
t fee 1 people should be fined $600 or more for looking for work.
They can't pay this money if they don't have a job.They don'
t feel the police should aid the INS in breaking into people's
homes. people claim guns were pointed at them.They feel
this is unconstitutional, and morally wrong. They want the council
to put an end to these practices.The Job
Center should be open to everybody, regardless of their immigration status.
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15. ORAL PRESENTATIONS (Continued)
Let the INS handle federal law, not the city Police.The
people who were present during the raid now have a fear of all uniforms. They
will be afraid to report crime in the future.These raids
are against all human dignity.They would like
Council to form a citizens' committee to investigate what happened on
the day of the raid. They feel there are other ways to
handle the situation.The Guadalupe-Hidalgo Treaty
signed in 1848 guarantees Hispanics the right to work
in this country.This country is dependent
on the Mexicanos, it would be short on pride, courage and determination needed
to sustain life into the future.The City should adopt
and
enforce a non-collaboration policy.The following people spoke in
support of the INS raids on September 18, 1991:Ben Seeley, San
Ysidro, representing
the Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR).Herbert A. Welch,
3446 E. Maple
Ave.W. D. Bonner, 222 N. Shasta st.
Brad Harrington, 259 N. Prospect Ave., Orange.Bill
King, 23996 Juaneno, Mission Viejo, retired Border Patrol
Officer.Bob Bennyhoff, 10642 Morada Drive, Orange.Shelley O'Connor,
3441
E. Vine Ave.Margaret Helms, 241 N.
Olympia.The made the following points:The raids
were carried out because the INS
had been alerted to the
presence of many illegal aliens in Orange. They are required to identify , apprehend, detain
and deport these illegal aliens.The presence of the Code Enforcement
Officers was coincidental to the INS raid. They
were scheduled to be there on their own.There is a
serious overcrowding problem, ripping the fabric of society. This results in crime,
shooting, property damage, theft,etc.There should be a concerted action
to obtain action on a federal level. The October
8
editorial in Common Talk was referenced.The Council was applauded for their actions
and effort, along with the Police Department in trying to
clean up a bad situation.These people should be taught to clean
up after themselves.A resident read a letter written to the
Times, disagreeing with their coverage of the raid.There is a
serious criminal element in the Orange-Park Villa Apartment complex, with drug-
dealing and random violence.This
is not a racial issue: the issues are crime, drugs, and
gangs. The neighbors are in a virtual
state of siege.Concern was expressed about the growing number of illegal immigrants
pouring into the country today.The immigration laws are being
selectively enforced. California is not a land of infinite resources.
There is a lack of support
by congressional representatives on this problem.Page 15
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The citizens of this land have the right to expect that the law
will be enforced.
Orange has done an exemplary job in trying to deal with the
problem. Almost $1 million has been spent.
The school district has spent hundreds of thousands of dollars
educating these students, as required by law. This means we have
less money to educate citizens who belong here.
Children living in the area are intimidated by the illegal
immigrants in the area.
The schools cannot teach the citizens in the area, because they
are too busy dealing with the illegal immigrants. only 10% of the
elementary school is English-
speaking.15. a. Presentation of a petition by Lorna
Deshane,representing Friends of Hart Park, expressing their concern about
the daily feeding of vagrants and homeless in Hart Park. (C2500.M.4.
9)TAPE
2-390 The fol1owing
people spoke:Lorna Deshane, 205 River
Avenue.Mae Stevens, 225 E. River Avenue.
Carolyn Keatinge, 421 S. orange Street.
Mindy Barber, 429 S. Orange Street.Carolyn
Cavecche, 275 N. Shaffer.Mario Corona,
609 S. Orange street.Michael stastny, 649
S Orange Street.Nancy Read, 347 S.
orange Street.Gloria Ravera, 1132 E. COllins,
friend of Mary's Kitchen.Stephen Rolph, 660 S. Glassell
street, #105.Margo Andrews, 504 E. Culver.
They made the following points:The
feeding began over 4 years
ago, and has increased to over 225 people being fed daily. This is
when the problems began.Their concern is for the location.
They want the feeding relocated to a shelter with other
services.At one time, Orange had only
one park, which was the heart of the city.The park is no longer
safe
to use.the park are afraid to use it
because The park is now almost exclusively vagrants.
Dirty drug needles are found everywhere in
the
park, including buried in the sand of the children's
playground.Crime has increased by 120% in surrounding neighborhoods.
Vagrants are sleeping on private property in surrounding
neighborhoods, urinating in public, harassing people, panhandling aggressively,
shoplifting, burglaries, etc.Neighbors and former users
of the rampant crime.
used by transients and
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15. ORAL PRESENTATIONS (Continued)
This feeding program is not allowing the homeless to get the skills
and resources they need to survive, other than on a meal-
to-meal
basis.There are no winners in the current situation: the children cannot
play in the park, the residents live in fear and the homeless are not
getting their needs met.
The children want their park back.The
homeless are a completely different society from the people found in
Hart Park.This would
not be a safe place to build the proposed city gymnasium.There are
many
successes with this program, in feeding the homeless.It does not
work
logistically to feed the homeless in a residential neighborhood. We have a
social responsibility to the homeless, but we also have
a responsibility to the residents in the area.Many of these people
are
irrational, mentally ill, etc.Why don't these people go
to the Welfare Dept., which helps people without resources with food stamps, etc. There
are other social service agencies to help these people.Council
commented they are negotiating with st.
vincent de Paul to move the feeding to this location. Mayor
Pro Tern Barrera said they would continue to call it Mary's
Kitchen.Police Captain Hernandez reported they have instituted
a park guard program, specifically to address the parks in
the Orange area,particularly Hart Park. The people in charge
of feeding have called requesting daily patrol checks, because the homeless
are becoming very combative. The ladies who are feeding
them are also fearful.The Police Captain indicated since 1984, there
has been a 110%increase in crime in that area.Councilwoman
Coontz commented these people come from
allover the County. These people are mistakenly called the
homeless, because they arrive when free food is being
given out.Councilman Spurgeon asked the annual cost of
the park ranger program and why it was instituted. The Police
captain indicated the annual cost to the city is about $50,
000, and it was started because of the increased crime problems.Councilman steiner commented we
have an established
social service program to feed people in need through
the churches in Orange. There are many significant lessons to be learned
about the destruction of a park. He grew up near MacArthur Park
in the '40's and '50'S when it was beautiful; the park is now in
terrible condition. This is what could happen to Hart Park.Page 17
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15. ORAL PRESENTATIONS (Continued)
MOTION - Mayor Beyer SECOND -
Coontz AYES - Steiner,
Barrera, Mayor Beyer, Coontz, spurgeon Moved to direct
the Director of Community services to work with police captain Hernandez
and return to council with possible solutions to the
problem. Mayor Beyer and Mayor Pro Tem Barrera will continue to work
with st. vincent de Paul to seek a relocation of the program.councilwoman Coontz
commented
the man who has worked with the food centers before has
been of great help. There are others council may want to call
on to assist. These people are being fed, but we don't know who they
are and if they have other resources. There are so many agencies that
do this job and do it well, many of them located in the City
of Orange, we should look at what their resources are.Barbara DeNiro, 1118
E. Adams, addressed the council regarding the schools which are
being used as parks. There is graffiti, trash,noise, litter, etc.
b. presentation by
Ted Foltz, president, Santiago Creek Estates Homeowners' Association,
692 N. Adele, Orange, regarding problems in their
mobile home park. (MI800.M.l)The city Clerk
reported Mr. Foltz consented to have this item continued to the
October 15, 1991 council meeting.Carol Walters, 532
N. Shaffer, addressed the Council regarding the number of beds
in the new dormitory at Chapman University, since some of them are
doubles. Mayor Beyer indicated he will be counting beds in the new
dormitory, along with a resident of the neighborhood, and a Chapman University
staff member.Socorro Baca, 313
N. Center Street, told the council the residents are selling their
parking permits. There continues to be a problem with parking in
the neighborhoods surrounding Chapman University.Page 18
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16. ADJOURNMENT
MOTION - Spurgeon SECOND -
Barrera AYES - Steiner,
Barrera, Mayor Beyer, Coontz, Spurgeon Moved to adjourn
at 10:30 p.m. to an Adjourned Regular Meeting at 9:30 a.
m. on October 11, 1991, for the purpose of recessing to a Closed Session to
discuss Orange County Superior Court Case No. 64 27 01, entitled citv
of Orancre vs. Donald D. Greek.01//f:Mh,,~ ~ ~/,
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