1996-12-04 Final DRC MinutesCity of Orange
Design Review Board
MINUTES
for Wednesday, December 4, 1996
Board Members Present
Board Members Absent
Staff in Attendance:
Richard Cavecche
Steven McHarris
Robert Reilly
Tim McCormack
Steven Prothero (Chair)
Chuck Lau, Associate Planner
Howard Morris, Landscape Coordinator
Administrative Session - 4: 30 P.M.
The board met for an administrative session beginning at 4:30 P.M. The meeting adjourned at
approximately 8:00 P.M.
Regular Session - S: 00 P.M.
The minutes of the November 20, 1996 meeting are not yet available. Review and approval of these
minutes are deferred to the December 18, 1996 meeting.
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(1) DRB No. 3128
Hi-Line Auto Care New automotive center
134 Rancho Santiago Blvd. Review of revised building elevations
Tony Alves, Architect C-1 (Limited Business) District
Tony Alves, project architect, presented the revised plans and explained that the originally proposed
glass blocks are being eliminated bacause of its high cost (approx. $5,000). The building elevations have
been modified to provide additional relief of the continuous walls.
MOTION by Steven McHarris to approve the revised building elevations, subject to the following
condition:
1. Change the Melalueca trees along the north building elevation (Pearl Street frontage) to Tristania.
SECOND: Robert Reilly
AYES: Richard Cavecche, Steven McHarris, and Robert Reilly
NOES: None
ABSENT: Timothy McCormack and Steven Prothero
ABSTAINED: None
MOTION CARRIED
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DRB No. 3129
UNOCAL
5344 E. Chapman Avenue
• Renovation of an existing automotive
service station
Plastolite Sign System Review of sign program
• C-1 (Limited Business) District
Mr. Alan Cornia presented the proposed sign program to the DRB. This project was recently approved
for the complete renovation an existing Unocal service station. The new service station contained a
carwash facility.
The DRB expressed concerns with having too many peripheral signs which seem to cluttered the site.
The amount of signage needs to be reduced.
MOTION by Richard Cavecche to approve the sign program, subject to the following conditions:
1. Delete the following signs: I, J,L,M & D
2. The Entrance and Exit signs designated as F & G shall be replaced with the 30 inches round signs.
3. All building can sign shall have opaque backgrounds.
4. The freestanding sign maybe illuminated.
5. Sign E (Carwash price sign) shall be reduced to maximum 4 ft. width. (It is suggested, at the
applicant's option, that this sign be relocated to the planter area next to the trash enclosure).
SECOND: Robert Reilly
AYES: Richard Cavecche, Steven McHarris, and Robert Reilly
NOES: None
ABSENT: Timothy McCormack and Steven Prothero
ABSTAINED: None
MOTION CARRIED
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DRB No. 3184
Solo Tires, Inc. Existing automotive tire store
144 N. Tustin St. Review of new wall sign
Swain Sign, Inc. • C-1 (Limited Business) District
MOTION by Richard Cavecche to approve the plans as submitted.
SECOND: Steven McHarris
AYES: Richard Cavecche, Steven McHarris, and Robert Reilly
NOES: None
ABSENT: Timothy McCormack and Steven Prothero
ABSTAINED: None
MOTION CARRIED
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(4) DRB No.3185
Boston Market Remodel and conversion of an existing
3138 E. Chapman Ave. commercial building to restaurant use
Tarlos Associates Review of building elevation plans
• C-1 (Limited Business) District
MOTION by Robert Reilly
SECOND: Richard Cavecche
AYES: Richard Cavecche, Steven McHarris, and Robert Reilly
NOES: None
ABSENT: Timothy McCormack and Steven Prothero
ABSTAINED: None
MOTION CARRIED
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(5) DRB No.3186
Mobil Oil Corp. New carwash/service station
1234 N. Main Street Review of sign program
Donco & Sons, Inc. C-1 (Limited Business) District
MOTION by Steven McHarris to approve the project, subject to the following conditions:
1. Walls signs approved as submitted.
2. Freestanding sign must have an opaque background. Gasoline price sign maybe illuminated. The
bottom blank panel below the pricing sign shall be used for pricing only (diesel fuel). This panel
shall remain opaque until used for pricing.
SECOND: Richard Cavecche
AYES: Richard Cavecche, Steven McHarris, and Robert Reilly
NOES: None
ABSENT: Timothy McCormack and Steven Prothero
ABSTAINED: None
MOTION CARRIED
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(6) DRB No.3187
Shell Oil Products Company Existing service station
1914 E. Chapman Ave. Review of new freestanding sign
Donco & Sons, Inc. C-1 (Limited Business) District
• Variance 2022-96 approved by Zoning
Administrator to allow 24 ft. height.
MOTION by Richard Cavecche to approve the project, subject to the following conditions:
1. An opaque background shall be installed. (gasoline price sign may be illuminated).
2. The existing concrete foundation leftover from the previous sign shall be removed, or covered
underground at least 6 inches in depth. Extend the landscaping over this area.
SECOND: Steven McHarris
AYES: Richard Cavecche, Steven McHarris, and Robert Reilly
NOES: None
ABSENT: Timothy McCormack and Steven Prothero
ABSTAINED: None
MOTION CARRIED
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(7) DRB No.3188
Woodside Plaza Remodel of an existing retail center
3110-3134 E. Chapman Ave. Review of building elevation plans
William C. Sharon -Architect C-1 (Limited Business) District
The project was presented by Keith Daniels. This is a renovation of arl existing retail center on East
Chapman. The existing trellis has been remove because it was badly deteriorated. The new building
elevation consists of a new extended parapet roof with afoam/wood frame plant-on triangular truss
design. The truss design may also be a 1 %i inch wide fry reglet.
The DRB felt that the truss design is inappropriate for this center and is not compatible with surrounding
developments. The applicant needs to modify this design, or consider alternative design solutions.
MOTION by Richard Cavecche to continue review of this project to the next meeting, December 18,
1996. The revised plans should include an outline for the placement of wall signs. The applicant has
the option of submitting plans in advance to be included in the DRB packets, or if there is not enough
time, bring the plans to the meeting.
SECOND: Steven McHarris
AYES: Richard Cavecche, Steven McHarris, and Robert Reilly
NOES: None
ABSENT: Timothy McCormack and Steven Prothero
ABSTAINED: None
MOTION CARRIED
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(8) DRB No.3189
Orange Unified School District Location of a new modular building onto an
1401 Handy St. existing school district office site.
• Review of building elevation plans
• R-1-7 (Single Family Residential) District
• Recommendation to Planning Commission
regarding C.U.P. 2168-96. Public hearing
on 12/16/96.
William Flory, representing the school district, and Kevin Nybert ,architect, presented the project. This
is a move-on modular building to be used an instructional media center.
The DRB noted that the building elevation plans being presented at the meeting is different that the ones
submitted in their packet. There are concerns with the new building being closer to Katella Avenue than
any of the other existing school buildings. The roof top mechanical equipment are exposed and the
finish siding material (T-111) does not match any of the existing buildings. Can the building be placed
elsewhere on the site that is less visible from an arterial street? The DRB preferred the original building
elevation plans that were submitted with their packets.
Mr. Flory replied that the plans have been revised mainly to reduce cost. They've explored other
alternative locations on the site, but this location seemed to be the most suitable for their needs.
MOTION by Steven McHarris to recommend to the Planning Commission the following:
1. The proposed modular building with exposed roof top equipment and T-111 plywood siding is not
compatible with any of the adjacent school buildings on site.
2. The originally submitted plans with "DriveC siding (simulated stucco finish), continuous parapet
roof, and brick veneer corners are preferable to the above.
SECOND: Robert Reilly
AYES: Richard Cavecche, Steven McHarris, and Robert Reilly
NOES: None
ABSENT: Timothy McCormack and Steven Prothero
ABSTAINED: None
MOTION CARRIED