1996-11-20 Final DRC MinutesCity of Orange
Design Review Board
MINUTES
for Wednesday, November 20, 1996
Board Members Present: Richard Cavecche
Steven McHarris
Tim McCormack
Steven Prothero (Chair)
Robert Reilly
Board Members Absent: None
Staff in Attendance: Chuck Lau, Associate Planner
Howard Morris, Landscape Coordinator
Administrative Session - 4: 30 P.M.
The board met for an administrative session beginning at 4:30 P.M. The meeting adjourned at
approximately 8:00 P.M.
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Regular Session - S: 00 P.M.
Steven Prothero opened the meeting and asked whether board members had any comments or revisions
to the meeting minutes for November 6, 1996.
MOTION by Steven Prothero to approve the minutes for November 6, 1996 with the following
corrections:
DRB No. (3150, Walmart, page 3, correct conditions #1 and #3 to read as follows:
1. (Add as last sentence.) Plain steel bollards are not acceptable.
3. (Fourth sentence) Change "discouraged" to "not acceptable".
DRB No. (31811 Avres Group~Country Side Inn), page 5. correct the 6`h recommendation of condition
#4 to read as follows:
Recommendation to consider the contrasting themes of the tropical landscaping theme and
Country Side Inn theme.
SECOND: Robert Reilly
AYES: Richard Cavecche, Timothy McCormack, Steven McHarris, Steven Prothero, and
Robert Reilly
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
ABSTAINED: None
MOTION CARRIED
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(1) DRB No. 3150
WalMart
Broadway Store Site @ Mall of Orange
Hall & Foreman, Inc.
• New retail building to replace the former
Broadway store at the Mall of Orange
• Review of site plan, building elevations,
and conceptual signage plans.
• C-TR(Commercial, Tustin Redevelopment
Project Area) District
The project was presented by Stu Voeltz. The revised plans showed some of the changes that were
suggested by the DRB as follows
• Revised front hardscape pavement area with a more unified grid pattern to better coordinate with the
placement of landscape planters. A single row of pre-cast concrete bollards have also been added to
this area.
• The horizontal lines of the building have been further broken up with pop-out features in addition to
the trellises.
• The front store entry has been revised with new arches and varying planes to create some shade and
shadow. However, the height of building was not increased.
• Some of the peripheral wall signs "We Sell for less" and "Satisfaction Guaranteed" have been
eliminated. The "Wall Mart" and "Garden Center" signs are retained. The golden arches
(McDonald's), "One Hour Photo", "Vision Care Center", and "Pharmacy" signs are retained and are
stacked in a menu format to the left of the store front.
• The loading dock screen wall may be raised slightly (± 2 ft.) to help screen the trucks from view.
MOTION by Steven Prothero to approve the preliminary plans subject to the following conditions
1. The front store entry needs additional height to contrast with the long horizontal lines of the building.
A suggestion would be to arch the top of the entry feature and raise the overall height to
approximately 36 ft. with 29 ft. being the low points of the arch (A sketch was provided to the
applicant). Add scoring detail to the front, preferably in a diamond shaped pattern.
2. Eliminate the "One Hour Photo", "Vision Care Center", and "Pharmacy" signs. The McDonald's
logo is acceptable.
3. The 2 front entry side bays shall be painted in the tan color rather than blue. Reduce to only one
E.I.F.S. pyramid unit on each side of bay. The depth of the arch recess should be a minimum of 16
inches.
4. Add 4 palm trees along the south side of the front walkway area (2 in the front, 2 at the rear).
Minimum height of all palm trees shall be 25 ft. brown trunk.
5. Prior to issuance of building permits, submit final landscape plans to DRB for approval. Plans shall
include all affected parking lot areas, and details of concrete texture paving and bollards.
6. Freestanding signs may be submitted separately to the DRB.
7. The "Better Homes and Garden" wall sign shall be reduced in height to no more than two/thirds ratio
of the building fascia height.
8. Truck well wall height shall be minimum 10 ft. from exterior grade.
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SECOND: Robert Reilly
AYES: Richard Cavecche, Timothy McCormack, Steven McHarris, Steven Prothero and
Robert Reilly
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
ABSTAINED: None
MOTION CARRIED
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(2) DRB No. 3163
Kaufman & Broad
SWC Tustin Street/Rock Creek Drive
Proposed 83-unit affordable senior
apartment community.
Review of site plan, building elevations,
and landscape plans.
• P-C (Planned Community) District
Scott Chopping -Assistant Project Manager, Manny Gonzales -Architect, and Russ Johnson -Landscape
Architect presented the latest set of plans to the DRB. The plans contained the requirements from the
previous meetings, including the 3 ft. eave overhang, delineated top staircase window treatment, balcony
railing detail, and a more detailed drawing of the front entry elevation. The kiosk in the recreation has
been replaced with a open trellis structure instead. The trellis at the corner of the building have been
revised to provide a more continuous profile consistent with the curvature of the street intersection.
MOTION by Steven Prothero to final plans subject to the following conditions:
1. Minimum eave overhang shall be 3 ft.
2. The corner building trellis shall be constructed to meet the design intent and level of detail (3 layer
design) similar to the freestanding trellis at the recreation area. A vine shall be provided at the
trellis.
3. Provide 2 additional stone pilasters, one on each side of the main entry gates.
4. The Sycamore trees along the assessment district access way shall be located 6 to 8 ft. from the fence
line. Add 2 Holly Oak trees at the planter area where it is too narrow to maintain a 6 to 8 ft. distance.
SECOND: Richard Cavecche
AYES: Richard Cavecche, Timothy McCormack, Steven McHarris, Steven Prothero and
Robert Reilly
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
ABSTAINED: Steven Prothero
MOTION CARRIED
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(3) DRB No. 3166
Traditional Housing, Inc.
Crawford Canyon Road/Patria Court
Don Cantacessi
• 33 single family homes (Tract No. 13529)
• Review of landscape plans.
• R-1-40 (Single Family Residential, 43560
sq. ft. minimum) PUD (Planned Unit
Development and Condominiums
MOTION by Steven Prothero to approve the final landscape plans, subject to the following conditions:
1. A115 gallon trees (except fuel modification zone) shall be upgraded to minimum 15 gallon size to
comply with city standards.
2. Remove the Echium shrubs away from underneath the Cedar trees.
3. Recommend using 4 stake poles around the individual lot trees to discourage its removal.
4. Submit signage plans if necessary.
SECOND: Timothy McCormack
AYES: Richard Cavecche, Timothy McCormack, and Steven McHarris, Steven Prothero
and Robert Reilly
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
ABSTAINED: None
MOTION CARRIED
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(4) DRB No. 3181
Country Side Inn Renovation of an existing hotel
3737 W. Chapman Ave. Review of site plan, building elevations and
Doug Ayres, Architect landscape plans
• C-1 (Limited Business District) zone
Doug Ayres, Project Architect, presented the revised plans and exterior building color samples. A
sample of the wall mounted air conditioner grill was also presented to the DRB.
MOTION by Steven Prothero to approve the project, subject to the following conditions:
1. The proposed exterior colors are approved as submitted.
2. The top cornice ban at the tower shall be enlarged to 24 inches. The lower cornice shall be deleted
entirely.
3. Staff shall verify square footage of the walls signs for code compliance.
4. Final landscape to be reviewed by staff
5. Provide a 3 ft. wide walkway adjacent to the parking stalls at the lawn area.
6. The Xylosmas along the west side of the building in front of the room windows shall be changed to
Ligustrum. (double row or triangular spaced).
7. Provide one additional tree between the 2 north planter islands in the rear parking lot area. (Total of
10 trees)
8. Freestanding sign approved as submitted.
9. Staff to verify with City Traffic Division and Street Tree Division to determine if a tree can be
placed in an area adjacent to the freestanding sign.
SECOND: Steven McHarris
AYES: Richard Cavecche, Timothy McCormack, and Steven McHarris, Steven Prothero
and Robert Reilly
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
ABSTAINED: None
MOTION CARRIED
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(5) DRB No. 3182
Lotus Cafe
Renovation of an existing restaurant with
1515 W. Chapman Avenue the addition of an outdoor dining area
Edward Koizumi, Architect Review of front yard landscaping plan.
• Administrative Adjustment 96-08 approved
by Zoning Administrator on 11/12/96.
• C-2 (General Business) District
The project was presented by Edward Koizumi. This is a proposed renovation of an existing front lawn
area to be used as an outdoor dining patio area.
MOTION by Timothy McCormack to approve the project, subject to the following conditions:
1. Add 2 evergreen shade trees to the front patio area. Suggestion -Sweet Shade, Pineapple Guava,
Aleppo Pine, Holly Oak, or New Zealand Christmas Tree. (Eliminate Acacia).
2. Back fill the planter to within 2 inches to the top of wall.
3. Provide street trees per City requirements.
4. Leptospermum trees shall be placed minimum 4 ft. away from walls.
5. Signage may be reviewed under separate submittal.
SECOND: Richard Cavecche
AYES: Richard Cavecche, Timothy McCormack, and Steven McHarris, Steven Prothero
and Robert Reilly
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
ABSTAINED: None
MOTION CARRIED
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61 DRB No. 3183
Ultramar, Inc. Demolish existing service station and
2245 W. Chapman Avenue rebuild same with larger retail market
D. Massaro Review of site plan and building.
• C-2 (General Business) District
• Recommendation to Planning Commission
(Hearing date: December 2, 1996)
Doug Massaro, Project Architect, presented the project. This is a complete demolition of all existing
buildings service apparatus including fuel pumps pump islands, canopy and pavement. The new
proposal consist of a new cashier's building with an enlarged retail mini-mart. Site improvements
includes consolidated driveways, striped parking spaces, new trash enclosure and landscaping. An
approx. 10 ft. wide strip of land along the property's street frontage would be reserved for the future
widening of Chapman Avenue.
MOTION by Steven Prothero to recommend approval of this project to the Planning Commission,
subject to the following conditions:
1. Fascia shall be non-illuminated.
2. Provide section detail of the building and canopy fascia to illustrate how the proposed red
illuminated band is to be installed.
3. Relocated trash enclosure towards the building and away from the street.
4. Proposed slump-stone block wall is acceptable for this project. Submit wall material and color
sample to DRB for approval.
5. Submit sign program to DRB for approval.
6. Provide vines (Boston Ivy) at 8ft. on center along masonry walls, and 3 vines at trash enclosure.
7. Omit Lantana and replace with Pittosporum along Flower Street frontage.
8. Eliminate landscape berm along Chapman Avenue frontage.
9. Omit Yucca tree at the building entrance planter area and replace with a "patio" tree such as
Pineapple Guava, Podocarpus, and Crepe Myrtle.
10. Add mulch at ground cover planting areas.
11. Omit Agapanthus and replace with Hemerocallis.
12. Provide street trees per City requirement.
13. Liquidambar trees along Chapman frontage to be shifted 10 ft. form the driveway, 4 ft. from the
ultimate right-of--way line.
14. Add City required notes on plan
15. Prior to issuance of building permits, submit final landscape plans, material color and sample board
to DRB.
SECOND: Timothy McCormack
AYES: Richard Cavecche, Timothy McCormack, and Steven McHarris, Steven Prothero
and Robert Reilly
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
ABSTAINED: None
MOTION CARRIED