1996-10-23 Final DRC MinutesCity of Orange
Design Review Board
MINUTES
for Wednesday, October 23, 1996
Board Members Present: Richard Cavecche
Steven McHarris
Tim McCormack*
Steven Prothero (Chair)
Robert Reilly
* (Arrived at approx. 5:20 p.m.)
Board Members Absent: None
Staff in Attendance: Chuck Lau, Associate Planner
Howard Morris, Landscape Coordinator
Administrative Session - 4: 30 P.M.
The board met for an administrative session beginning at 4:30 P.M. The meeting adjourned at
approximately 7:00 P.M.
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Regular Session - S: 00 P.M.
Steven Prothero opened the meeting and asked whether board members had any comments or revisions
to the meeting minutes for October 9, 1996.
MOTION by Steven Prothero to approve the minutes for October 9, 1996 with the following corrections:
DRB No. 3167 (Jesse Martinezl page 3, correct conditions #5 and #6 to read as follows:
5. The "belly band" at the deck area shall be a two step design.
6. All windows shall be wood sash with divided lights.
DRB No. 3163 Kaufman & Broadl page 4 correct conditions #3 to read as follows:
3. The upper staircase window shall be delineated differently than the lower ones.
DRB No. 3174 (James L. Cox and Carol A. Rowley) page 5, correct conditions # 8 and #9 to read as
follows:
8. Light bollards shall be boxed-out in wood. Submit lighting fixture detail to DRB.
9. Light bollards to be setback from high traffic areas.
DRB No. 3154 (North Orange Christian Church) page 7, correct condition # 1 to read as follows:
1. Gazania shall be planted 8" on center along front planter area. (Recommend Mitsui White).
Also within this area, plant Myoporum 6 to 8 ft. on center, 3 ft. back from sidewalk.
SECOND: Robert Reilly
AYES: Richard Cavecche, Steven McHarris, Steven Prothero, and Robert Reilly
NOES: None
ABSENT: Timothy McCormack
ABSTAINED: None
MOTION CARRIED
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(1) DRB No. 3134
Century Theatres Redevelopment of a drive-in theater site
NWC Katella Ave./Main St. as entertainment center
• Review of building plans
• CR (Commercial Recreational) District
Mark Fehlman (Architect) presented the project to the board. The overall conceptual plans were
reviewed by the DRB several months ago. The current plans are being reviewed for the theater complex
portion only. The remaining building pads will be submitted separately for review at a later date. Mr.
Fehlman noted that overall building design remains unchanged, except for a slight reduction in the use of
glass at the entry facade. This is primarily due to cost and energy conservation efforts.
The board expressed concerns with the proper screening of roof top mounted mechanical equipment, and
the extensive use exposed neon lighting through-out. The rear building elevation is rather plain and
uninteresting. Also, has a lighting concept study been done?
Mr. Fehlman stated that the roof equipment is fully screen behind high parapet walls. The rear building
elevation is screened by adjacent buildings and cannot be seen from public streets. The building will be
highlighted with exposed neon and up-lighting.
MOTION by Richard Cavecche to approve the theater plans subject to the following conditions:
1. Approval is granted for the theater building only. The remaining retail and restaurant building pads
must be submitted separately for approval.
2. Submit final landscape and irrigation plans to DRB for approval.
SECOND: Timothy McCormack
AYES: Richard Cavecche, Timothy McCormack, Steven McHarris, and Robert Reilly
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
ABSTAINED: Steven Prothero
MOTION CARRIED
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(2) DRB No. 3154
North Orange Christian Church
1001 E. Lincoln Avenue
Expansion of an existing Church
Review of landscape plans
EDAW, Inc. • C-1 (Limited Business District) zone
MOTION by Steve McHarris to approve the project subject to the following condition:
Applicant shall be responsible for the placement of all street trees along Lincoln Avenue.
SECOND: Robert Reilly
AYES: Richard Cavecche, Steven McHarris, Steven Prothero and Robert Reilly
NOES: None
ABSENT: Timothy McCormack
ABSTAINED: None
MOTION CARRIED
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(3) DRB No. 3174
James L. Cox & Carol A. Rowley Conversion of an existing residential
204 N. Olive St. structure to commercial use (tea room).
John Hamilton Architect Review of site, building, and landscape
plans
• C-2 (General Business) Old Towne District
• Planning Commission hearing: 10-07-96
Carol Rowley (Owner), and John Hamilton (Architect) presented the project to the board. The revised
plans reflect the changes that were suggested by the DRB from the previous meeting. A actual sample of
the wood fence and light bollard was presented to the board.
MOTION by Steven Prothero to approve the project subject to the following conditions:
1. Verify with the City's Street Tree Division for the continued use of Queen Palms along Olive Street.
If Palms are not approved, then standard street trees (Cedar) shall be provided.
2. Replace Callistomen with Tristania Conferta.
3. Light bollard approved as submitted. (boxing-out not required
4. Signage plan needs refinement and more detail. Resubmit for approval
5. Wood fence approved as submitted.
SECOND: Richard Cavecche
AYES: Richard Cavecche, Timothy McCormack, and Steven McHarris, Steven Prothero
and Robert Reilly
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
ABSTAINED: None
MOTION CARRIED
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(4) DRB No. 3176
Old Towne Brewing Co.
186 Atchison St.
Conversion of the historic Santa Fe
Railroad Depot to a restaurant and
Cecil Carney, Architect microbrewery
• Review of site and building plans
• SP (Santa Fe Depot Specific Plan) zone
James Guerin (Owner), and Doug Cruse (Architect) presented the project. The plans have been modified
to address the board's concerns from the previous meeting, including fire sprinkler riser location, and
location of electrical service box, entry canopy, patio trellis, door and window details.
The board raised the following concerns:
• Preserving the integrity of the existing historic building.
• Matching the exterior plaster finish.
• Matching the existing 2 piece type roof tile.
• Entry canopy does not work well. Needs modification.
• Door and window profile not consistent with existing ones.
• Proper screening of roof equipment.
MOTION by Steven Prothero to approve preliminary plans subject to the following conditions:
1. Window treatment at brewery room shall maintain same the profile as existing ones where the
opening steps back-in. The exterior doors should be redesigned to seamlessly match the side lights.
2. Add 8"x8" beam connecting the columns to make a 3 layer stacked trellis at outdoor dining area.
3. Exterior plaster finish shall match existing.
4. Roof top mounted mechanical equipment shall be properly screen from view with a continuous
parapet wall. (Separate screening devices not allowed)
5. Roof the shall match existing. (2 piece type)
6. Door and window profile shall match existing.
7. Main entry -instead of having a double transom, extend the doors all the way up the bottom of the
canopy and have the transom panels over the canopy similar to the ones being removed. The canopy
needs to being shorten slightly to avoid conflict with the window on the south side and column on
the north side. The canopy may also need to be lowered slightly to accomplish this.
8. Submit final building elevation plans with above revisions.
9. Submit landscape and hardscape plans to include paving, lighting, etc.
10. Submit signage plans.
SECOND: Timothy McCormack
AYES: Richard Cavecche, Timothy McCormack, Steven McHarris, Steven Prothero and
Robert Reilly
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
ABSTAINED: None
MOTION CARRIED
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(5) DRB No. 3179
Blair Home Improvement, Inc. Review of new wall sign for an existing
725 N. Main St. home improvement business
• M-2 (Industrial District) zone
MOTION by Richard Cavecche, to approve the new wall sign subject to the following condition:
1. The proposed wall sign shall be reduced in size to comply with zoning code requirement of
maximum one square foot per lineal foot of building frontage. (The entire 108 ft. length of
building elevation may be used for the calculation of allowable sign area)
SECOND: Steven McHarris
AYES: Richard Cavecche, Timothy McCormack, Steven McHarris, Steven Prothero and
Robert Reilly
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
ABSTAINED: None
MOTION CARRIED
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(6) DRB No. 3180
Carburetor King Review of new wall sign for an existing
850 N. Lemon Street automotive repair business
A.D. Sign-Scape M-2 (Industrial District) zone
MOTION by Robert Reilly to approve the wall signs subject to the following condition:
1. The maximum height of the sign above the garage roll-up door shall not exceed two-thirds (2/3)
ratio of the height distance between the top of the doorway to top of the roof.
SECOND: Richard Cavecche
AYES: Richard Cavecche, Timothy McCormack, and Steven McHarris, Steven Prothero
and Robert Reilly
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
ABSTAINED: None
MOTION CARRIED