1997-12-17 Final DRC MinutesCity of Orange
Design Review Board
MINUTES
for Wednesday, December 17, 1997
Board Members Present: Rick Cavecche
Tim McCormack
Steven McHarris
Steve Prothero (Chair)
Robert Reilly
Board Members Absent: None
Staff in Attendance: Chuck Lau, Associate Planner
Howard Morris, Landscape Coordinator
Administrative Session - 4: 30 P.M.
The board met for an administrative session beginning at 4:30 P.M. The meeting adjourned at
approximately 9:30 P.M.
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Regular Session - S: 30 P.M.
Steve Prothero opened the meeting. A motion was made by Steve Prothero to approve the
November 19, 1997 minutes with the following corrections:
DRB 3253 (John & Kimberly Atkinson~pa~e 8, condition 2 with the following corrections:
2. Modify the top of the gate with a more interesting design other than just flat.
SECOND:
AYES:
NOES:
ABSENT:
ABSTAINED:
Robert Reilly
Richard Cavecche,
Reilly
None
None
None
Tim McCormack, Steve McHarris, Steve Prothero, Robert
MOTION CARRIED
A motion was made by Steve Prothero to approve the December 3, 1997 minutes as submitted.
SECOND: Steve McHarris
AYES: Steve McHarris, Steve Prothero, Robert Reilly
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
ABSTAINED: Richard Cavecche, Tim McCormack
MOTION CARRIED
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1) DRB No. 3231
Chapman University
SEC Lemon Street & Sycamore Avenue
Albert C. Martin & Assoc.
• 5-level parking structure designed with
approximately 700 parking spaces
• P-I (SP) District; Public Institution,
Chapman University Specific Plan
The project was presented Bob Murrin and Ed Holakiewicz from A. C. Martin Partners. The building
elevation plans for the new law school have been further developed with more refinement and details.
The submittal also include exterior finishing material samples that are very similar to and are compatible
with the existing historic facade structure.
Steve McHarris reiterated that he is uncomfortable with the concept of masking the parking structure
with landscape planter boxes. This is a modern approach for a modern building. Similar concerns were
raised by Steve Prothero that perhaps the parking structure should be treated more as a building with
more architectural details and material embellishments.
Rick Cavecche is of the opinion that the use of landscaping, specifically the planters for softening of the
structure, and the trees along the front which creates the primary visual barrier, provides the best solution
to a difficult problem. Robert Reilly concurred with the fact that these buildings (Law School & B.LT.)
are contemporary versions of historic buildings. Tim McCormack also felt that the use of landscaping is
a suitable design approach to provide adequate screening for the parking structure. He is, however, open
to other design solutions.
The board took action as follows:
Law School Building:
MOTION by Steve Prothero to approve the exterior finishing materials for the new law school building,
subject to the following condition:
1. The new roof tiles shall match the existing ones (size, shape and color) as close as possible.
SECOND: Steve McHarris
AYES: Rick Cavecche, Tim McCormack, Steve McHarris, Steve Prothero, Robert Reilly
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
ABSTAINED: None
MOTION CARRIED
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Landscaping Concept::
MOTION by Tim McCormack to approve the preliminary landscaping plans, subject to the following
conditions:
1. Provide two (2) rows of Queen Palms along Glassell Street at minimum 30 ft. brown trunk height.
(Note: The same matching Queen Palms should be used for the B.LT. building along the opposite
side of Glassell Street.
2. Street trees along Lemon Street shall be Jacaranda (verify with Community Services Department)
spaced at 25 ft. on center.
3. Provide Canary Island Pines spaced at 15 to 20 ft. on center behind the Jacaranda street trees along
the west edge of the parking structure for screening.
4. The law school main courtyard area tree shall be Quercus acrifolia
5. Provide Canary Island Pines at maximum 18 ft. on center along south edge of parking structure for
screening.
6. Suggest use of minimum 48 inch box Citrus along the south side of the law school building. (Due to
the over-story of Washingtonia Robusta, and the small growth nature of Citrus).
7. Further refine shrub and ground cover palette.
8. A11 Magnolias shall be of consistent height.
9. Submit final landscaping plans per the items noted above to DRB for approval.
SECOND: Robert Reilly
AYES: Rick Cavecche, Tim McCormack, Steve McHarris, Steve Prothero, Robert Reilly
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
ABSTAINED: None
MOTION CARRIED
Parking Structure:
MOTION by Rick Cavecche to approve the design concept of the parking structure in terms of its
functional design and structural layout (building envelop and footprint consistent with the adopted
Chapman University Specific Plan), and specifically in regards to the use of planter boxes with
hanging/draping plants for screening purposes, subject to the following conditions:
1. Provide embellishments for the parking structure by incorporating the architectural details of the law
school building to include items such as cornice details, relief elements, window details, etc.
2. Provide further studies of an alternative design approach in lieu of the concept of planter boxes.
SECOND: Robert Reilly
AYES: Rick Cavecche, Tim McCormack, Robert Reilly
NOES: Steve McHarris, Steve Prothero
ABSENT: None
ABSTAINED: None
MOTION CARRIED
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DRB No. 3249
Mills Corporation
Former City Shopping Center Complex
David Evans & Associates
• New regional outlet shopping center
complex
• C-2 (General Business District)
The project was presented by Jerry Engen, Debra Warner and Marsha Petticourt from the Mills
Corporation. One of the major changes includes removal of the "Scrim" and replacing it instead
with several high tower elements. The submittal also included color brochures of the exterior
lighting fixture to be used throughout the entire site. Bill Mesa, project landscape architect, also
presented revised landscape plans to the DRB. Except for the street frontage along City
Boulevard which is still being studied at this time, the revised plans addressed various items that
were discussed from the previous meeting.
The DRB expressed concerns with the many changes that are on an on-going basis. It is difficult
for the DRB to grant further approval of the project without reviewing a more comprehensive
plan of the overall project.
MOTION by Steve Prothero to approve the building elevations as submitted, subject to the
condition that future submittals should include a more definitive concept plan of the overall
project.
SECOND: Steve McHarris
AYES: Richard Cavecche, Steve McHarris, Steve Prothero, Robert Reilly
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
ABSTAINED: Tim McCormack
MOTION CARRIED
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DRB No. 3268
Dr. Delia Tamasan Dental
1108 E. Katella Avenue
Sign-A-Rama
• New wall sign for an existing tenant within
a retail center
• C-P (Commercial Professional District)
Applicant not present.
MOTION by Rick Cavecche to continue this item.
SECOND: Steve Prothero
AYES: Rick Cavecche, Tim McCormack, Steve McHarris, Steve Prothero, Robert Reilly
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
ABSTAINED: None
MOTION CARRIED
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(4) DRB No. 3274
Edward Howard
2495 N. Santiago Boulevard
Company One Construction
• New accessory second unit
• R-1-10 (Residential -Single Family District,
10,000 sq. ft. minimum lot size)
• Recommendation to Planning Commission
Mr. Edward Howard, owner of the property, presented the project to the DRB. The proposal is
to add a 625 sq.ft. accessory second dwelling unit onto a property that currently contains an
existing single family residence. The new structure is a move-on manufactured housing unit that
is to be located at the rear of the property behind the existing residence.
The DRB found the proposed new accessory second unit to be compatible with the existing
residence, which is also a similar move-on modular unit that was constructed in the 70's.
MOTION by Steve McHarris to recommend approval of the project as submitted to the Planning
Commission.
SECOND: Robert Reilly
AYES: Rick Cavecche, Tim McCormack, Steve McHarris, Steve Prothero, Robert Reilly
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
ABSTAINED: None
MOTION CARRIED
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(5) DRB No. 3275
Ewing Properties
777 S. Main Street
Architects Orange
• New mixed-use retail and residential
project
• C-3 (Commercial) District
• Recommendation to Planning Commission
Applicant not present. (The applicant contacted staff prior to the meeting and requested for a
continuance of the project to the next scheduled meeting).
MOTION by Steve Prothero to continue the project to the January 7, 1997 meeting.
SECOND: Rick Cavecche
AYES: Rick Cavecche, Tim McCormack, Steve McHarris, Steve Prothero, Robert Reilly
NOES: None
ABSTAINED: None
MOTION CARRIED
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(6) DRB No. 3276
Wells Fargo Bank
2684 N. Tustin Street
Plastiline Inc.
• Replacement wall sign for an existing bank
facility located within the Vons market
• C-TR (Commercial -Tustin Street
Redevelopment District)
(This item was approved on the consent calendar)
MOTION by Rick Cavecche to approve the project as submitted.
SECOND: Steve Prothero
AYES: Rick Cavecche, Tim McCormack, Steve McHarris, Steve Prothero, Robert Reilly
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
ABSTAINED: None
MOTION CARRIED
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(7) DRB No. 3277
South Coast Insurance
2233 N. Tustin Street
Francisco Ramirez
• New wall sign for existing commercial
building
• C-TR (Commercial -Tustin Street
Redevelopment District)
Applicant not present.
MOTION by Steve Prothero to continue the project to the January 7, 1997 meeting
SECOND: Robert Reilly
AYES: Rick Cavecche, Tim McCormack, Steve Prothero, Robert Reilly
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
ABSTAINED: Steve McHarris
MOTION CARRIED
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(8~ DRB No. 3278
Hewes Park Estates
394 & 416 S. Esplanade Street
The Woods Group Architects
13 unit residential tract development
R-1-7 (Residential -Single Family District,
7,000 sq. ft. minimum lot size)
Recommendation to Planning Commission
The project was presented by Tim Roberts with TNR Development, Bob Stone - Nuvis
Landscape Architects, and Greg Applegate -Consulting Arborist. The proposal is to subdivide
approximately 9.5 acres into 13 single family lots. The site presently consists of 2 lots each
developed with a single family residence which would be retained as part of this development.
A written narrative of project, and a tree survey was also included in the submitted application
package.
MOTION by Tim McCormack to recommend approval of the project to the Planning
Commission with the following conditions:
1. Plant palette needs be re-assessed to better accentuate and compliment the existing planting
materials and configuration on the site.
2. Investigate the possibility of preserving the existing specimen plants along the southerly
edge of the property. (The DRB is of the opinion that the widening of La Veta Avenue
would have a negative impact on the site's historic resources.
3. Emphasis should be placed on the historical nature of the site, and the quality of
material/workmanship at the project entrances.
4. Prior to issuance of building permits, submit final civil, architectural and landscape plans to
DRB for approval to include finish material samples and color palette.
SECOND: Rick Cavecche
AYES: Rick Cavecche, Tim McCormack, Steve McHarris, Steve Prothero, Robert Reilly
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
ABSTAINED: None
MOTION CARRIED
(9) DRB No. 3279
Allegro Ristorante
1160 N. Tustin Street
Mario Petillo
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• Awning sign for a new restaurant within an
existing shopping center complex
• C-TR (Commercial -Tustin Street
Redevelopment District)
(This item was approved on the consent calendar)
MOTION by Rick Cavecche to approve the project with the following conditions:
1. The awning is approved with one (1) set of sign lettering in lieu of the 3 sets of repeated
lettering shown on the proposed plans.
2. The sign lettering shall be centered on the awning.
SECOND: Robert Reilly
AYES: Rick Cavecche, Tim McCormack, Steve McHarris, Steve Prothero, Robert Reilly
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
ABSTAINED: None
MOTION CARRIED