1999-09-08 Final DRC MinutesCITY OF ORANGE
DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE
MINUTES
for Wednesday, September 8, 1999
Board Members Present: Leonard Filner
Jack McGee
Mark Paone
Susan Secoy (Chair)
Joe Woollett (Vice Chair)
Board Member Absent: None
Staff in Attendance: Chuck Lau, Associate Planner
Howard Morris, Landscape Coordinator
Administrative Session - 4:30 P.M.
The board met for an administrative session beginning at 4:30 p.m. The meeting adjourned at
approximately 6:55 p.m.
Regular Session - 5:30 PM
REVIEW OF MINUTES:
A motion was made by Mark Paone to approve the August 25, 1999 minutes as submitted.
SECOND: Susan Secoy
AYES: Leonard Filner, Jack McGee, Mark Paone, Susan Secoy, Joe Woollett
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
ABSTAINED: None
MOTION CARRIED
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1. DRC No. 3392 -VILLA MODENA
• Final landscape plans for a new 5 unit housing project
• NWC Hewes Street & Marmon Avenue
• DRC Action: Final Determination
(Approved as consent Item)
MOTION by Susan Secoy to approve the project as submitted.
SECOND: Mark Paone
AYES: Jack McGee, Mark Paone, Susan Secoy, Joe Woollett
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
ABSTAINED: Leonard Filner
MOTION CARRIED
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2. DRC No. 3401 -RITE AID
• Signage plans for a new pharmacy store
• 4040 E. Chapman Avenue
• DRC Action: Final determination
The project was presented by Todd Peters with Collin Signs. This is the signage proposal for
the new Rite Aid Pharmacy store located at the southwest corner of Chapman Avenue and
Esplanade Street.
The DRC raised the following concerns:
• Freestanding signs need street address, and must be setback minimum 2 ft. from property
lines.
• Maximum allowable height is 42 inches for on-site directional signs.
• The secondary wall sign is not allowed because there is only 90 feet of frontage along the
east building elevation.
MOTION by Joe Woollett to approve the project with the following conditions:
1. Freestanding signs shall be setback minimum 2 ft. from property lines.
2. Freestanding signs shall be provided with street address numbers. Location, size and
illumination of address numbers shall be reviewed by the Police Department Crime
Prevention Bureau for code compliance.
3. On-site direction signs shall be reduced to maximum 42 inches in height for code
compliance.
4. The secondary wall sign that reads "Drive Thru Pharmacy" along the east building elevation
shall be deleted for code compliance.
SECOND: Jack McGee
AYES: Leonard Filner, Jack McGee, Mark Paone, Susan Secoy, Joe Woollett
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
ABSTAINED: None
MOTION CARRIED
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3. DRC No. 3444 - AL & ED's AUTOSOUND
• Revised signage plans for an existing business
• 1171 N. Tustin Street
• DRC Action: Final determination
The project was presented by Mark Franks with San Pedro Electric Sign Company. The
previous proposal was denied by the DRB on 6/23/1999. Upon appeal, the Planning
Commission send this item back to the DRC for consideration of a revised plan which
incorporates the new wall signs, while still retaining the architectural elements on the building.
Two alternative plans were presented; Option "B" with the wall sign installed below the
architectural element, and Option "C" with the wall sign installed above the architectural
element.
The DRC stated that Option "B" with the wall sign installed below the architectural element is
preferable. However, there are concerns with the removal of the existing Palm trees along
Tustin Street.
MOTION by Mark Paone to approve the project with the following conditions:
1. Option "B" is approved with the wall sign installed below the architectural element.
2. Applicant shall replace the Palm tree at the southwest corner of the site. Palm tree shall be
15 ft. minimum brown trunk height, and shall match the existing ones that were removed.
Placement and size of the Palm tree to be verified by City Community Services Department
staff.
3. All illegal banner signs shall be removed.
SECOND: Jack McGee
AYES: Leonard Filner, Jack McGee, Mark Paone, Susan Secoy, Joe Woollett
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
ABSTAINED: None
MOTION CARRIED
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4. DRC No. 3448 -SELECT LEASING & VIKING PLUMBING
• Construction of two new truck storage and maintenance buildings for an existing
industrial facility.
• 2300 N. Batavia Street
• DRC Action: Final determination
Mr. Gus Orozco, project architect, presented samples of the exterior finish material and color
palette to the DRC.
MOTION by Susan Secoy to approve the project as submitted.
SECOND: Leonard Filner
AYES: Leonard Filner, Jack McGee, Mark Paone, Susan Secoy, Joe Woollett
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
ABSTAINED: None
MOTION CARRIED
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5. DRC No. 3456 - PHILLIP DOYON
• Conversion of an existing residence to a bed & breakfast inn located in Old Towne
• 224 N. Glassell Street (Contributing Structure)
• DRC Action: Recommendation to Planning Commission
• (Continued from 8/11/99 meeting)
(Applicant not present)
MOTION by Susan Secoy to continue the project.
SECOND: Jack McGee
AYES: Leonard Filner, Jack McGee, Mark Paone, Susan Secoy, Joe Woollett
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
ABSTAINED: None
MOTION CARRIED
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6. DRC No. 3459 -CHRIS & NICOLE MICHAELIS
• Demolition of an existing detached garage and replace with a new 1% story studio
second unit constructed over a 2-car garage. (Existing front house listed as a
Contributing Structure in Old Towne)
• 288 N. Center Street
• DRC Action: Recommendation to Planning Commission
• (Continued from 8/25/99 meeting)
The project was presented by the owner, Nicole Michaelis. The plans have been revised per
the DRC's direction from the previous meeting. The main roof has been raised slightly from
19'-6" to 20'-0", and the shed dormer roof now starts approx. 18 inches below the ridge of the
main roof. The project has been scheduled for September 20, 1999 Planning Commission
hearing.
The DRC stated that they support the project, and appreciates the applicant's effort in
redesigning the building to address their concerns. The DRC further noted, however, that they
have just received a letter dated 9/8/99 from community members that are in opposition to the
project. The DRC discussed several possible mitigation measures with the applicant, including
the use of landscaping, picket fences, turf blocks, ribbon driveway, etc., to help break up and
soften the appearance of the driveway and parking space. Amore detailed landscape plan
would be submitted back to the DRC, prior to issuance of building permits. As for the land use
issues relating to density and second unit developments, it should be deferred to the Planning
Commission for review. The DRC finds the proposed project to be consistent with the Old
Towne Design Standards.
(The meeting was opened for public comments)
Ms. Joan Crawford raised concerns regarding the increase in F.A.R. (Floor Area Ratio)
proposed for this site. Also of concern is how visible is the new building, and will it appear
overpowering to the existing single story residence?
The DRC acknowledged Ms. Crawford's concerns, and briefly discussed each.
MOTION by Susan Secoy to recommend approval of the project to the Planning Commission
with the following conditions:
1. Project approval is based on the revised building elevation plans dated 9/8/99.
2. The land use issues raised in the letter to the DRC dated 9/8/99 be considered as part of
the development review process by the Planning Commission.
3. Prior to issuance of building permits, submit final landscape plans to DRC for approval.
SECOND: Mark Paone
AYES: Leonard Filner, Jack McGee, Mark Paone, Susan Secoy, Joe Woollett
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
ABSTAINED: None
MOTION CARRIED
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7. DRC No. 3472 -CHRISTOPHER DAY
• New 2-story single family residence
• 557 N. Carlisle Place (Tract No. 13913 -Lot 10)
• DRC Action: Final Determination
• (Continued from 8/25/99 meeting)
The project was presented by Hal Woods, Woods Group Architects, and Janet Stone,
Landscape Architect. New exhibits have been added to the presentation to include site
sections and color renderings. Plan shows that the back yard pool area is well integrated with
the slope having aterrace/layering effect. They have been in contact the Fire Department
regarding fuel modification requirements. The relatively large amount of glass that are being
used for this project is primarily due to its rather spectacular views.
Mark Paone expressed concerns with the development of the project encroaching down the
slope beyond the ridge. The plan shows 5 large California Pepper trees located within the 50
ft. "Wet Zone" area. He would prefer to see that these trees remain in this area to help soften
the view from down below, but the Fire Department may require removal of these trees for fuel
modification purpose. If that is the case, then the applicant must come up with alternative
solutions.
Susan Secoy stated that she supports the applicant's effort in addressing the DRC's concerns
from the previous meeting, particularly with the terrace/layering effect along the back slope.
MOTION by Mark Paone to approve the project, subject to the following condition:
If the 5 large trees as shown on the plans are removed due to fuel modification or any other
reason, then the applicant must re-submit plans with alternative solutions back to the DRC
for approval.
SECOND: Leonard Filner
AYES: Leonard Filner, Jack McGee, Mark Paone, Susan Secoy, Joe Woollett
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
ABSTAINED: None
MOTION CARRIED
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8. DRC No. 3474 -CITIZENS BUSINESS BANK
New freestanding sign for an existing bank
1800 W. Katella Avenue
DRC Action: Final Determination
The project was presented by Michael Birdsell with Ontario Neon Company, Inc. The proposal
is to construct a new freestanding sign for Citizens Business Bank (formerly Orange National
Bank). Mr. Birdsell stated that a `mower-pad' would be added surrounding the base of the sign
to help protected it from being damaged. The existing wall sign on the building will also be
replaced, but is not being submitted to the DRC because it is typically an "over-the-counter"
item that would be reviewed by staff.
MOTION by Mark Paone to approve the project as submitted.
SECOND: Joe Woollett
AYES: Leonard Filner, Jack McGee, Mark Paone, Susan Secoy, Joe Woollett
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
ABSTAINED: None
MOTION CARRIED