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CITY OF ORANGE
CITY TRAFFIC COMMISSION
Minutes of a Regular Meeting: February 8, 1995
I. OPENING
A. Pledge Of Allegiance To The Flag
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B. ROLL CALL:
Present - Commissioners: D. Yarger, J. Gibson, B. Leming, F. Sciarra
Absent - Commissioners: J. Fortier
Present - Staff: B. Dennis, C. Glass, D. Allenbach, W. Winthers
P. Then,.OPD Officers J. Gray, R. Griffin
Absent - Staff: Capt. L. Walsh
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C. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
• November 9, 1994 - Approve as published by the Recording Secretary
MOTION F. Sciarra
SECOND B. Leming
AYES Unanimous
D. ITEMS TO BE CONTINUED OR WITHDRAWN
None
II. CONSENT CALENDAR
A. Request for the installation of a driveway vision zone in front of 800 and
840 N. Eckhoff St.
Michele Lindgren
840 N. Eckhoff St.
Orange, CA 92668
ACTION: APPROVE the request.
Oral presentation is based on the written staff report, please refer to your
copy. There was no discussion on this item.
RECOMMENDATION: That the CTC, by motion, APPROVE the request.
MOTION B. Leming
SECOND J. Gibson
AYES Unanimous
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111. CONSIDERATIOIV CALENDAR
A. Evaluation of the intersection of Main St. and Mapie Ave.
Traffic Engineering Division
City Of Orange
Oral report is based o►n the written staff report, please �efer to your copy.
Chairman Yarge� opened the public hearing for the following discussion on
this issue.
There were two speakers regarding this issue, their concerns are as follows:
Kimberly Bottomley, 1005 W. Arbor Way - L'rn representing both Sycamore
Elementary and Portota Middle School as t have three children attending
these two schools. � would fike to suggest that you instalf a signal here to
be synchronized wfth fihe traffi:c signal at MainfPalm that way you don't stop
the flow of traffic, yet it's safe f'or pedestrians crossing here. There are atot
of kids going over to Portola to partici:pate in the Breakfast Program theX
provide and alot of people use the Main/Maple intersection to cross the
street. A crossing guard afi Main/Patm is the best syster� you can have aside
from an overhead walk-way.
Jim McMillan, 340 N. Main St. (Principal, Sycamore Elem�ntary School} -
Removing the crosswalk afi MainCMaple is not realty something we would tike
because we are not as close by the Main/Palm crosswalk to offer -
sup�rvision. Main/Maple is the most direct raute far a great number of our
students going over ta Portota Middle School utifizin.g the B'reakfast Prog:ram.
Peopfe will cross at Main/Maple regardless if we have a crosswatk or not,
� because cars are going so fast on Main St. many motorisfis don`t stop
because they are afraid they wilC be rear-ended while stopped for kids
crossing the street. We think a synchran'rzed traffi'c sr`gnal or even flashing
yellow warning lights would be appropriate here.
We have increased enrollment more than ever because changes in district
boundaries ar�d also increased number of families sharing a residence due to
the high cost of housing.
Chairman Yarger c%sed the publie hearing and returned the issue to the
Commission for c%sing comments and a mvtion, as fol%ws. �
Commissioner Leminq- Is there any anticipated increased in traffic on Main
St. within this area in conjunction with redevelapment of the
commercial/office/professional development areas?
Bernie Dennis - It is anticipated that the traffic will increase dxamaticaliy over
the years and I think the Commission is welt aware that ther� has been a
down-turn in develoRment over the years, however, substantial activifiy is
anticipated in the industrial area as well as other uses. And yes, we feeC the
traffic on Main St. will certainly increase, as well as a need to widen Main
St. In fact street widening of Main St. from Maple to Chapman is included
in the 3-Street Widening/lmprovement project approved by the City Council
last year.
Commissioner Sciarra - I think the best solution is to remove this crosswalk,
and sign the area direeting pedestrians to use the Main/Palm crossing
location.
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Ilt. CONStDERATION CALENDAR (Continued)
RECOI`/IMENDATIQN: That the CTC, by motion, REMOUE the existing
crosswalk and install signage to use the crosswaik at Main St. and Palm
Ave.
MOTION F. Sciarra
SECOND J. Gibson
AYES 2 (Gibson, Sciarra)
NOES 2 (Leming, Yarger)
Motion does not carry.
RECOMMENDATtON. That the CTC, by motion, TAKE NO ACTION TODAY
and continue this to a meeting in the future..
Investigate the removal of the existing crosswalk at Main/M'apte, meet with ,
OUSD about their Breakfast Program at Partola Middle School, and having
OUSD school educate their students about the crosswalk at Main/Palm.
MOTI�N B. Leming
SECQND D. Yarger
AYES 2 (Leming, Yarger)
ABSTA[N 2 (Gibson, Sciarra)
Motion is carried.
B. Request� for the installation of an `All-Way' ST�P at the intersection of
Shaffer St. and Sycamore Ave.
Curtis W. Bingham
506 E. Jefferson Ave.
Orange, CA 92666
Oral presentation is based on the written staff report, please refer to your
copy. Chairman Yarger opened the public hearing for the following
discussion of this issue,
There were four speakers in favor of the STDP sign installation, their
concerns are as foltows:
Curtis Bingham, 506 E. Jefferson Ave.
Shawn Murphy, 384 N. Shaffer St.
Vickie Lindquist, 3$Z N. Shaffer St.
Lesley Besneatte, 419 N. Shaffer St. -
• Dip in the roadway, so speed is not the only concern, but an unsafe roadway
condition.
• Lots of school age pedestrians wa(king this route to three separate
cam puses.
• Younger age drivers without the best judgment driving tao fast on Shaffer.
• Would like a 2-Way STOP for north and southbound traffic.
� Have difficulty getting in and out of the driveways.
• Not enough Police enforcement.
• Need more speed f'rmit signs installed.
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Ilt. C4NSIDERATION CALENDAR (Continued)
There were three speakers opposing the STOP sign installation, their
concerns are as follows:
Ralph Godrey, 393 N. Shaffer St. �
Tim Edwards, 406 �I. Shaffer St.
+ Qon't want any on-street parking removed.
• Chapman University needs to address their need for additional student
parking.
• Increased air and noise pollution.
+ 4-Way STOP will just �ack-up traffic at this intersection..
• Need more Police enforcement
Need more 25 MPH speed limit si:gns. Chapman University should address their
need for student parking.
Chairrr�an Yarger c%sed the public hearing and returned the issue to the
Gommission for c%sing comments and a motion, After discussion of
'`thraugh street system" and how STOP signs ar� placed the� fo/lovuing
recomr�endation was made,
RECQMMENDATION: That the CTC, by motian, DENY the request.
Additionally, vve will install `D1P' signs with advisory 20 MPH speed fimit
sig:ns on those `DIP' signs.
MaTIaN - B. Leming
SECOND - F. Sciarra
, AYES - Unanimous
C. Request for the installation af an 'All-Way' STOP at the intersection af
Regency �4ve. and Roxbury St.
Kimberly Onishi
Keysto�e Pacific Property Management, Inc.
41�0 �lewport Place, #350
Newport Beach, CA 92669
Ora/ presentation is based an the written staff re,aort� please refer to your
copy. Chairman Yarger opened the pub/ic hearing for the fo!/owi�g
discussion on this request.
There were two speakers in favor of this request, fiheir concerns are as
follows:
Renee Jof�nston, 2788 N. Roxbury St.
Larelei Silverstein, Z776 N. Roxbury St.
Motorists driving too fast.
Would �ike speed humps if a STOP sign can`t be installed.
Lane channelization.
RECOMMENDATION: That the CTC, by motion, DENY the request to
instalt an 'Al1-Way' STOP; and contact the praperty manag�r to take official
position on speeding and publicize it through newstetters to the community.
MOTIQN - D. Yarger
SECOND - F. Sciarra
AYES - Unanimous
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Iit. CONSIDERATION CALENDAR (Continued)
D. Request for the inst�ifation of a `mid-btock' crosswalk on Pepper St. in
proximity to Saint Joseph`s Hospital.
Tracy J. Letzring, P.E., R.E.A.
Tait & Associates
1 1 Q0 Town & Country Rd., #1200
Orange, CA 92668
Chairman Yarger opened the public hearing for the fo/%wing discussion of
this request.
There was one individual speaking in favor of the request as follows:
Jim Brennan, Civii Engineer - 191 S. Orange St.
We've started construction of the pavilion, we've completed the
improvement plans for the passenger loading areas, we have approvat now
for the expansion of the Emergency and we have plans in to the City for the
parking structure. We'd like to remove those crosswalks now due to the
cons�ruction and we can do this in phases with the construction.
Cha«man Leming closed the Qubfic hearing of this item and returrred the item
to the Commission for finaf discussion andfor a motion.
RECOMMENDATION: That the CT�, by motion, APPR4VE �Che request and
that the other 3 crosswatks along Pepper St. be removed in phases, to be
determined by staff in cooperation with contractor.
� M4TION - D. Yarger
SECQND - B. Leming
AYES - Unanimaus
IV. ADMINISTRATIVE RERORTS
None.
V. ORAL PRESENTATtONS
None.
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VI. ADJOURNMENT
Discussion of today's Agenda items for the City Traffic Commission being
complete, and there being no further requests for action under Oral
Presentat'ror�s, at 5;21 p.m. the Chairman adjourned this session of the
CTC.
The next regularly scheduled meeting of the City Traffic Commission will be
held on Wednesday - March 8, 1995.
Respectfully submitted,
Phyltis Then
Recording Secretary �
City Traffi� Cammfssion
TRAFFIC ENGINEERING DlVISION
DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIG WORKS
CtTY OF ORANGE
3OO E.: CHAPMAN AVE.
ORANGE, CAUFORNIA 92666--1591
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