08-22-2001 DRC MinutesCITY OF ORANGE
DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE
MINUTES
for Wednesday, August 22, 2001
Committee Members Present: Alice Angus
Susan Secoy
Joe Woollett (Chair)
Staff in Attendance: Chuck Lau, Associate Planner
Howard Morris, Landscape Coordinator
Dave Statton, Landscape Coordinator
Committee Member Absent: Leonard Filner (Vice Chair)
Mark Paone
Administrative Session - 4:30 P.M.
The committee met for an administrative session beginning at 4:30 p.m. The meeting adjourned
at approximately 6:45 p.m.
Regular Session - 5:30 PM
REVIEW OF MINUTES:
A motion was made by Committee Chair Joe Woollett to approve the July 11, 2001 minutes with
the following corrections:
DRC #3647 -Joanna Kondrath page 3, condition 1, amended as follows:
1. The new roof shall match the pitch on the existing roof by fewer lowering the plate height
along the side wall.
DRC #3651 -Leroy Allen Page 5 paragraph 1, sentence 2, amended as follows:
The proposal is to subdivide an existing ^^~~~~.g 11,976 sq. ft. property into 2 separate lots,
located at the northwest corner of Maple Avenue and Harwood Street.
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REVIEW OF MINUTES: (Continued)
DRC #3634 - St John's Lutheran Church Paqe 10 paragraph 6, sentence 2, amended as
follows:
The changes are °~^^~fty significant, and as a result we have a highly refined project +~-
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Page 11 paragraph 16, sentence 1, amended as follows:
Committee Member Susan Secoy concurred that we do not want to see a ~nsk~ multitude of
replicas throughout Old Towne.
DRC #3641 n- Brandywine Development Corporation Paqe 15 paragraph 10, sentence 2,
amended as follows:
Committee Member Susan Secoy stated that although the DRC's purview is to look at the
architectural design and aesthetics of the project, it is impossible to not take into consideration
some of these planning issues that have been raised ~ in the ever overall
scheme of development review.
Paragraph 11, sentence 2, amended as follows:
He is aJse pleased with having fewer units than what could have been achieved through a more
traditional approach (by connecting the streets through).
Sentence 3, amended as follows:
The existing stepe topography and grading of the site are real issues.
SECOND: Susan Secoy
AYES: Alice Angus, Susan Secoy, Joe Woollett
NOES: None
ABSENT: Leonard Filner, Mark Paone
ABSTAINED: None
MOTION CARRIED
The review and approval of the July 25, 2001 and August 8, 2001 minutes was deferred until the
September 5, 2001 meeting.
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1. DRC No. 3555 -PACIFIC BELL
Review of final plans for the expansion of an existing telephone equipment building.
2525 N. Orange-Olive Road
Staff Contact: Christopher Carnes -Senior Planner
DRC Action: Final Determination
John Chan and Wesley Wei with JTC ARCHITECTS, INC presented the project. The plans
have been revised to address the concerns of the DRC from the previous meeting on June 7,
2001. The parking lot lighting fixtures have been lowered down to 20 ft. to avoid spillage into
the adjoining residential neighborhood. The perimeter wall is maximum 6'-8" high, and is made
of split-face block.
The meeting was opened for public comments: (None)
Committee Member Susan Secoy noted that the planting legend on the landscaping plan shows
the same symbol being used for both the Fescue grass and the Hahn's Ivy. This needs to be
corrected on the plans. Also, the Hahn's Ivy should be spaced closer at 12" on center, rather
than 18" on center.
MOTION was made by Committee Chair Joe Woollett to approve the project with the following
conditions:
1. Hahn's Ivy shall be spaced at 12" on center.
2. Clarify planting legend so that the symbol used for the Hahn's Ivy and Fescue is
distinguished.
SECOND:Alice Angus
AYES:Alice Angus, Susan Secoy, Joe Woollett
NOES:None
ABSENT:Leonard Filner, Mark Paone
ABSTAINED:None
MOTION CARRIED
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2. DRC No. 3559 - LIS GIUSTO
Substitute wood siding material for an approved room addition and renovation of an
existing residence in Old Towne.
374 N. Cambridge Street (Contributing Structure)
Staff Contact: Daniel Ryan, Senior Planner -Historic Preservation
DRC Action: Final Determination
The owner, Lis Giusto, presented the project. The proposal is to use an alternate wood siding
material that has a slightly different profile than the sample wood siding that was approved at
the September 13, 2000 DRC meeting. The proposed alternate wood siding is the same width
as the approved siding, but with a slightly thinner profile with no reveal along the edge. The
project is under construction, pending approval of the new alternate wood siding material.
The meeting was opened for public comments:
Jeff Frankel (384 S. Orange Street) recalled that the direction of the DRC was to repair and re-
use the existing wood siding where possible, and to replace severely damaged siding with new
wood siding of exact size and profile. The standards also require that the replacement material
must match the existing material in-kind.
Lis Giusto explained that over 90 percent of the existing siding was damaged beyond repair and
therefore was not re-usable. Photographs of the existing house shows that the replacement
wood siding closely matches the original siding.
John Waters -Architect, stated that he has been working with the owner since last fall, and
remembered that the original siding was badly deteriorated beyond repair. The new wood
siding was ordered from a vendor in the State of Washington that was recommended by the
City's Planning Division. The replacement wood siding is very similar to the original siding that
was removed.
Committee Member Susan Secoy compared the previous approved siding sample with the
proposed new siding sample and concurred that there is not a significant difference in terms of
overall profile and appearance. The two siding samples are basically the same.
Committee Chair Joe Woollett asked if the City inspected the original wood siding when it was
initially removed from the building.
Chuck Lau, Associate Planner, explained that City staffs from both the Planning Division and
Building Division had visited and inspected the project on several occasions to assure full
compliance with all conditions of approval.
Committee Chair Joe Woollett stated that the proposed new wood siding is actually a closer
match to the original wood siding than the previously approve siding.
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2. DRC No. 3559 - LIS GIUSTO (Continued)
MOTION was made by Committee Member Susan Secoy to approve the project as submitted.
The approval is based on the finding that the proposed work conforms to the standards and
design criteria referenced and/or recommended by the Design Review Committee or other
reviewing body for the project. The proposed work complies with the Secretary of the Interior
Standards for Rehabilitation and Guidelines for Rehabilitation. The proposed work will neither
adversely affect the significant architectural features of the building, nor adversely affect the
character of historical, architectural, or aesthetic interest or value of the building, its site, or the
surrounding area.
SECOND:Alice Angus
AYES:Alice Angus, Susan Secoy, Joe Woollett
NOES:None
ABSENT:Leonard Filner, Mark Paone
ABSTAINED:None
MOTION CARRIED
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3. DRC No. 3638 - CINGULAR WIRELESS
Revised plans for a proposed roof mounted telecommunications antenna facility on an
existing 2-story commercial building.
202 W. Lincoln Avenue
Staff Contact: Mario Chavez-Marquez, Planning Aide
DRC Action: Final Determination
Item was previously approved at the 6-20-2001 DRC meeting)
The revised plans were presented by Duan Dao with The Consulting Group, Inc. This is a
revision to the plans previously approved by the DRC on June 20, 2001. The new proposal
consists of a single "Unicell" antenna that is approximately in 21 inches in diameter, mounted on
top of the roof at a maximum height of 32 ft. measure from the ground. (A photograph of a
similar antenna site was also presented).
Committee Member Susan Secoy stated that this new "Unicell" antenna is much improved over
the previous proposal to construct a penthouse enclosure on the roof.
MOTION was made by Committee Chair Joe Woollett to approve the project with the following
conditions:
1. No exposed conduits. All conduits shall be installed underground and routed internally
within the building.
SECOND: Susan Secoy
AYES: Alice Angus, Susan Secoy, Joe Woollett
NOES: None
ABSENT: Leonard Filner, Mark Paone
ABSTAINED: None
MOTION CARRIED
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4. DRC No. 3639 - NEXTEL COMMUNICATIONS
Revised plans for a proposed roof mounted telecommunications antenna facility on an
existing 2-story commercial building.
626-648 N. Tustin Street
Staff Contact: Mario Chavez-Marquez, Planning Aide
DRC Action: Final Determination
Item was continued from the 5-15-2001 DRC meeting)
The project was continued due to a lack of quorum. Committee Member Susan Secoy
abstained from review of this project, due to a potential conflict of interest.
MOTION was made by Committee Chair Joe Woollett to continue the project.
SECOND:Alice Angus
AYES:Alice Angus, Joe Woollett
NOES:None
ABSENT:Leonard Filner, Mark Paone
ABSTAINED:Susan Secoy
MOTION CARRIED
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5. DRC No. 3661 - HAIRSTON & DALEY PHYSICAL THERAPY
New wall signs for a physical therapy and sports fitness center within an existing
commercial center (Village-Walk Shopping Center).
1140-1232 N. Tustin Street
Staff Contact: Jay Eastman, Assistant Planner
DRC Action: Final Determination
The project was presented by Ed Boies with Flynn Signs & Graphics, Inc. This application
originated as a code enforcement complaint. The proposed signs are existing, and were
installed without City approval. The wall signs are made of individual foam channel letters.
Committee Chair Joe Woollett stated that a new comprehensive sign program needs to be
submitted, so that all future signage would be more consistent within the center.
MOTION was made by Committee Member Alice Angus to continue the project, so that a new
comprehensive sign program can be submitted for the entire center for approval.
SECOND: Susan Secoy
AYES: Alice Angus, Susan Secoy, Joe Woollett
NOES: None
ABSENT: Leonard Filner, Mark Paone
ABSTAINED: None
MOTION CARRIED
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