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07-07-2004 DRC MinutesCITY OF ORANGE DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE MINUTES July 7, 2004 Committee Members Present: Jon Califf Craig Wheeler Joe Woollett (Chair) Donnie Dewees Staff in Attendance: Leslie Aranda Roseberry, Planning Manager Dan Ryan, Senior Historic Planner Committee Member Absent: None Administrative Session - 4:30 P.M. The Committee met for an administrative session beginning at 4:30 p.m. The meeting adjourned at 7:20 p.m. Regular Session - 5:30 P.M. A motion was made by Committee Chair Joe Woollett to nominate Jon Califf as Chairperson becoming effective July 21, 2004. SECOND: Craig Wheeler AYES: Jon Califf, Donnie Dewees, Craig Wheeler, Joe Woollett NOES: None ABSENT: None ABSTAINED: None MOTION CARRIED A motion was made by Committee Member Jon Califf to nominate Craig Wheeler as Vice Chairperson becoming effective July 21, 2004. SECOND: Donnie Dewees AYES: Jon Califf, Donnie Dewees, Craig Wheeler, Joe Woollett NOES: None ABSENT: None ABSTAINED: None City of Orange -Design Review Committee Meeting Minutes for July 7, 2004 Page 2 A motion was made by Committee Chair Joe Woollett to approve the May 19, 2004, minutes subject to the following corrections: 1 DRC 3906-04 Bowbeer and Read Residence page 4 paragraph 1, sentence 7 amended as follows: Staff is recommending that they have elevation gx~es indications that have the correct dimensions showing the height of the existing ridge of the dormers to the ridgeline and actual placement on the roof. 2 DRC 3908-04 Son Light Christian Center page 5 paragraph 1, sentence 1 amended as follows: Craig Wheeler and Joe V~ee~ett Woollett recused themselves, as their ~~ offices are located within 500 feet of this building. Craig Wheeler left the room, and Joe Woolett stayed so there would be a quorum. SECOND: Jon Califf AYES: Jon Califf, Donnie Dewees, Craig Wheeler, Joe Woollett NOES: None ABSENT: None ABSTAINED: None MOTION CARRIED A motion was made by Committee Chair Joe Woollett to approve the June 2, 2004, minutes subject to the following corrections: 1. Regular Session, pale 1, motion amended as follows: A motion was made by Committee Cog Member Wheeler to approve the April 21, 2004, minutes subject to the following corrections: 2 DRC 3909-04 Megan's Tickets page 5 paragraph 1, sentence 4 added as follows: Committee Member Joe Woollett remained in the room to maintain a quorum. SECOND: Jon Califf AYES: Jon Califf, Donnie Dewees, Craig Wheeler, Joe Woollett NOES: None ABSENT: None ABSTAINED: None MOTION CARRIED City of Orange Design Review Committee Meeting Minutes for July 7, 2004 Page 3 1. DRC No. 3911-04 - HBIZCTR ORANGE New multiple-tenant industrial complex. 313 W. Grove Avenue Staff Contact: Chuck Lau, Associate Planner DRC Action: Recommendation to Planning Commission Chuck Lau, Associate Planner, introduced the project. Representing the applicant was Ralph Hastings of Hastings Partnership, and George Hedley of Hedley-Orange, L.L.C. This proposal is fora 79,649 sq. ft. multiple tenant industrial complex consisting of 19 buildings. The Staff Review Committee (SRC) initially reviewed the proposed project on March 10, 2004 and May 26, 2004. Staff found that the buildings are functional in design and simple architectural elements tie the building design together. The buildings proposed have reflective blue glass, and there are an array of earth tone colors used in the project. It was noted that the fire department was very pleased with the project. The proposed landscape design complements the building's new contemporary style architecture. Joe Woollett questioned the expanse of glass on front of the building. The architects stated that the longest vista has jogs, because of the long expanse, to give it relief. The Committee was concerned about the offsets, wondering if it occurred only in one place would the applicant consider not doing this? Howard Morris, Landscape Coordinator for the City of Orange, asked that Inspection Notes be put on the plans and that final irrigation plan be brought to Staff for approval. A motion was made by Committee Member Craig Wheeler to approve the project with the following conditions (in addition to the four conditions noted in the Staff Report): 1. Offsets on Buildings 1-4 be eliminated. 2. Addition of landscaping finger be added between Buildings 2 and 3 on the East side. SECOND: Jon Califf AYES: Jon Califf, Donnie Dewees, Craig Wheeler, Joe Woollett NOES: None ABSENT: None ABSTAINED: None MOTION CARRIED City of Orange -Design Review Committee Meeting Minutes for July 7, 2004 Page 4 2. DRC No. 3917-04 - MELINDA BROWN Restoration and addition onto an existing detached single-car garage. 403 E. Pahnyra Avenue (Old Towne Historic District) Staff Contact: Chuck Lau, Associate Planner DRC Action: Final Determination Chuck Lau, Associate Planner, introduced the project. Craig Wheeler, as the Architect of Record on the project, recused himself from this discussion and voting. The proposal is to take an existing detached single-car garage that is located behind an existing residence and rehabilitate the roof and to add some square footage to it (for a workshop, storage area for pottery and a trash enclosure). Mr. Lau noted one correction to the plans as submitted, per Melinda Brown, the applicant. On the garage door the applicant wants to use a hinged, double swing-door rather than the rollout. Janet Crenshaw, 464 N. Shaffer, and Jeff Frankel, 384 S. Orange St., represented the OTPA. Both noted that they were unable to view the plans at the library prior to this meeting (possibly because of the July 4th holiday there was some confusion). They were advised to call the Community Development Department in the future if they had difficulty in locating proposed plans. Janet Crenshaw asked about the current driveway, and the applicant stated that there were actually two driveways, and both would have the grass strip down the middle. Jeff Frankel asked if the applicant would be matching all materials to the existing house, and the applicant stated that she was. The applicant noted she was looking for an old turn-of--the-century garage door, rather than a new one. Jon Califf suggested to the applicant that she have the garage door installer (whoever that maybe) inspect the door she was considering to ensure that the hardware is compatible, because that is the biggest variable in finding a door that would fit. A motion was made by Committee Chair Joe Woollett to approve the project subject to the following conditions: 1. The garage doors be double swing instead of single-leaf overhead type. SECOND:Donnie Dewees AYES:Jon Califf, Donnie Dewees, Joe Woollett NOES:None ABSENT:None ABSTAINED:None RECUSED:Craig Wheeler MOTION CARRIED City of Orange -Design Review Committee Meeting Minutes for July 7, 2004 Page 5 3. DRC No. 3829-03 -Immanuel Lutheran Church Specific Plan Proposed design guidelines 802 East Chapman, 137 and 147 South Pine Street Staff Contact: Sherman Jones, Associate Planner DRC Action: Recommendation to City Council Sherman Jones, Associate Planner, introduced the project. The purpose of this Design Review is to evaluate proposed design guidelines contained within the Immanuel Lutheran Church Specific Plan intended to supplement the Historic Preservation Design Standards for Old Towne. The proposed kitchen addition and Early Childhood Education building will be reviewed under future separate Design Review Applications. The applicant's proposal includes the following requests: Zone Change No. 1220-03 to amend the zoning from Office Professional and Duplex Residential to Public Institution; Major Site Plan Review No. 288-03 to allow expansion of the existing church and school campus facilities, including the relocation of a historic parsonage to an off-site location; and Design Review Committee No. 3829-03 to evaluate the design standards and procedures incorporated into the proposed Specific Plan text. Staff recommends (according to the City's Demolition Review), that the applicant bring before the DRC a proposal for a replacement structure prior to relocating the Parsonage Building, which is considered a contributing structure. Jeff Frankel, 384 S. Orange, and Janet Crenshaw, 464 N. Shaffer represented OTPA. Mr. Frankel stated that he was totally confused on the amendments to the Design Standards. He would like to review the specific recommendations, but the plans were not at the library for review. As far as demolition and relocation of the historic structure (Parsonage Building) they would definitely be opposed to the demolition, and definitely opposed to its relocation outside the Old Towne Historic District. He cannot make comments on the Specific Plan. If this is continued to the next meeting of the DRC he will make comments then. If not, he will make comments to the Planning Commission. Craig Wheeler wondered what the limitations were to relocating the structure to Old Towne. Sherman Jones stated it was because of the limited number of sites that would accommodate this relatively large structure. Craig Wheeler said it could be time related; you may not be able to find one in two weeks, but if you tried for six months or two years you may be able to accomplish it. Jeff Frankel noted that the City did a great job on finding a suitable relocation spot for the Edwards House, following a successful advertising campaign and other efforts. Rick Fox, representing the applicant, spoke to the overall plan. He stated that the plan had a completion timeframe of eight years for all of the phases under discussion. He understood that it would take quite some time to complete the move of the existing parsonage structure. He stated that there were some interested parties in town, many people have inquired, but the major issue is to ensure that the parsonage gets moved to a new home before they get too far with the review and the design of the replacement structure. The applicant is asking for the possibility of relocating the parsonage prior to the replacement building being completely designed and City of Orange -Design Review Committee Meeting Minutes for July 7, 2004 Page 6 reviewed by the DRC. Staff s recommendation is that the new structure receive design review prior to the move of the parsonage building. Chuck Woollett stated that he was concerned that the existing building find a good home and doesn't want the applicant or the City to miss that opportunity window. Jon Califf asked if there was a reason that the replacement structure design process would not be starting immediately while in the process of finding a site. Rick Fox stated that the church wants to make sure that the parsonage has been relocated prior to committing funds to design a new building. Jon Califf asked if there is a gap (as it now appears that maybe) between the move of the parsonage structure and the design replacement of the new structure, has there been any discussion on what will happen to the site in the interim? Sherman Jones stated that since Staff was following the Design Review standards (i.e., the structure would not be moved prior to it's replacement structure being approved), there is currently no provision for what would happen to the site in the interim. Craig Wheeler questioned Page 13 where the applicant discussed the building setbacks and yard requirements, the rear yard is listed as zero feet, and the only place where the rear abuts is on the street, but on the drawing (Page 36) that is showing a 10 foot setback. Shouldn't we clarify on the applicant's Page 13 that it would be a 10-foot setback? If it's showing as 10 feet on the exhibit we should show it as 10 feet on the text. A motion was made by Committee Chair Joe Woollett to approve the project with the following conditions: 1. Section 5 on Page 26 be revised so that the last sentence of the first paragraph read, "If the building is to be relocated in Old Towne, as otherwise normally required by OMC Paragraph 17.10.090." An additional item shall be added to the first paragraph as follows: "If the building is relocated in Old Towne, a plan for reconstructing the site of the relocated building shall be submitted for review and approval by the DRC." 2. Section 3 on Page 13 be revised so that Item D, rear yard, be specified as a minimum of 10 feet. 3. Section 5 on Page 19, the first paragraph, be revised to read as follows: Exterior wall materials appropriate to the style may include plaster or stucco, wood, timber, stone or brick masonry, iron and clay tile. Roof covering materials exposed to view may include clay tile, copper and asphalt shingle. The remainder of the paragraph will remain as written. 4. Page 25, that in Paragraph 2 and 4, that the terms "with like materials" be added for any description of items to be replaced. 5. Paragraph 6, the last five words of the sentence be deleted ("and site fences and walls"). SECOND: Craig Wheeler AYES: Jon Califf, Donnie Dewees Craig Wheeler, Joe Woollett NOES: None ABSENT: None ABSTAINED: None MOTION CARRIED N:\C D D\P L N G\Council Commissions Committees\DRC 7-07-04 drem.DOC