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06-20-2001 DRC MinutesCITY OF ORANGE DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE MINUTES for Wednesday, June 20, 2001 Committee Members Present: Alice Angus Leonard Filner (Vice Chair) Joe Woollett (Chair) Staff in Attendance: Chuck Lau, Associate Planner Howard Morris, Landscape Coordinator Dave Statton, Landscape Coordinator Committee Member Absent: Susan Secoy Mark Paone Administrative Session - 4:30 P.M. The committee met for an administrative session beginning at 4:30 p.m. The meeting adjourned at approximately 7:45 p.m. Regular Session - 5:30 PM REVIEW OF MINUTES: The review and approval of the June 6, 2001 minutes was deferred until the July 11, 2001 meeting. City of Orange -Design Review Committee Meeting Minutes for June 20, 2001 Page 2 DRC No. 3472 -CHRISTOPHER DAY Final landscape review for a custom residence at Prospect Hills 557 Carlisle Place (Lot 10) Staff Contact: Chuck Lau, Associate Planner DRC Action: Final Determination Continued from 03/07/01 meeting) The project was presented by the owner Mr. Christopher Day, and Mr. Carl Loza with Living Waters, Inc. The landscape and grading plans have been revised to address the concerns that were raised at the previous meeting. The scale model has also been modified to reflect the changes that were made on the landscaping and grading plans. The staircase was pulled-in from the edge to keep the retaining wall low, and a landscape area was created to help screen the wall from view below. The rock facing have been re-designed so that it has more of a cascading effect as opposed to looking like stone veneers applied to a vertical wall surface. The boulders used are indigenous to the area. Staff Planner Chuck Lau confirmed that both the Orange Park Acres Association (OPA) and Action Property Management (Prospect Hills H.O.A.) have been contacted to verify acceptance of the revised plans. The revised plans have also been checked for consistency with the Fire Department approved fuel modification plans. Committee Member Leonard Filner noticed that the model shows landscape materials are being planted within the rocks. The boulders and landscaping should be carried around to help soften the side of the wall as viewed from the adjoining neighbor's property. Chris Day replied that he intents to backfill the retaining wall and apply the rock facing treatment wherever possible so that there would be little or no exposed wall. Committee Chair Joe Woollett commended the applicant's creativity in dealing with the slope. It is a very difficult task because the use of boulders and similar hardscape elements are often done on the job site rather than precisely drawn on a plan. Although what the applicant is proposing has never been approved for this area, there are sufficient mitigation measures through the use of cascading rocks and enhanced landscaping treatment) to allow better utilization of the slope. The meeting was opened for public comments: Jim Wooley (6203 E. Cliffway Drive) stated that proposed project looks very nice, and the only concern is the screening of the retaining wall along the side that faces his property. He wants to make sure that whatever landscaping and/or hardscape (rock) treatment is being proposed would be fully documented so that it does not get overlooked. Committee Member Leonard Filner stated that he does not have any problems with the design concept, but would like to see the boulders and landscaping treatment accurately shown on a revised landscape plan to be checked by City staff for approval. City of Orange -Design Review Committee Meeting Minutes for June 20, 2001 Page 3 DRC No. 3472 -CHRISTOPHER DAY (Continued) MOTION was made by Committee Chair Joe Woollett to approve the project subject to the following conditions: 1. No concrete block shall be exposed to view. (Facing of the concrete block with natural rock is acceptable) 2. Vertical walls shall be mitigated with rock facing treatment by extending out from the base of the wall to create a cascading effect with a 2:1 slope out to property line boundaries. 3. Provide intermediate built-in planters throughout the rock facing treatment for landscaping. 4. Submit final landscape and irrigation plans to Department of Community Service for approval. (Final plans to include City required inspection notes) SECOND: Alice Angus AYES: Alice Angus, Leonard Filner, Joe Woollett NOES: None ABSENT: Mark Paone, Susan Secoy ABSTAINED: None MOTION CARRIED City of Orange -Design Review Committee Meeting Minutes for June 20, 2001 Page 4 2. DRC No. 3549 - V.R.S.J MEDICAL OFFICE BUILDINGS Modifications to a previously approved landscape plan. 230 S. Main Street Staff Contact: Jay Eastman, Assistant Planner DRC Action: Final Determination The project was presented by Brett Hubinger with IDC (Independent Development Co.). The project was reviewed by the DRC and approved by the Planning Commission. Subsequently, it was determined that the parking structure could not be constructed due to certain unforeseen field conditions. The parking structure has been modified to accommodate those conditions. Committee Chair Joe Woollett raised concerns with the design of the new footings impeding with the proposed landscaping. He was also informed that the parking structure could potentially be shifted north to abut the property line. Brent Huffinger stated that the new footing would not impede with the proposed landscaping. He has requested the contractor to shift the parking structure north, but was told that it could not be done due to safety concerns (during construction) with the adjacent school playground. There is an existing 6 ft. high block constructed on the school side. This creates a narrow planting area that will collect trash, and attract trespassing and loitering in this hidden space. The project was opened for public comments: (None) Committee Member Leonard Filner is satisfied with the revised landscape plans. He is more concerned with the issue along the north side of the parking structure. He suggested that Queen Palms be added at the three corner planting area. MOTION was made by Committee Member Leonard Filner to approve the project subject to the following conditions: 1. Add Queen Palm tree, minimum 8 ft. brown trunk height, in each of the three corner planter areas. 2. Change planting legend for Queen Palm from "Size as noted" to "Minimum 8 ft. brown trunk height" on the landscape plans. 3. Add security gates at the northwest corner and southeast corner between the parking structure and property lines. 4. Relocate the vines along the north side from the property line wall to the parking structure. 5. Submit final landscape and irrigation plans to Community Services Department for approval. (Final plans to include City required inspections notes) SECOND: Alice Angus AYES: Alice Angus, Leonard Filner, Joe Woollett NOES: None ABSENT: Mark Paone, Susan Secoy ABSTAINED: None MOTION CARRIED City of Orange -Design Review Committee Meeting Minutes for June 20, 2001 Page 5 3. DRC No. 3607 -GEORGE ADAMS Final landscape review for a custom residence at Prospect Hills. 462 Carlisle Place (Lot 16) Staff Contact: Chuck Lau, Associate Planner DRC Action: Final Determination Continued from 06/06/01 meeting) The revised plans were presented by Bill Cathcart -Landscape Architect. The landscape plans have been revised to include the use of a new "Hybrid" Palm that has a shorter trunk height to replace the Washingtonia Robusta. The Fire Department has tentatively approved the fuel modification plans, pending agreement by the Homeowners Association. The project was opened for public comments: (None) MOTION was made by Committee Member Leonard Filner to approve the project with the following condition: 1. Submit final landscape and irrigation plans to Community Services Department for approval. Final plans to include City required inspections notes) SECOND: Alice Angus AYES: Alice Angus, Leonard Filner, Joe Woollett NOES: None ABSENT: Mark Paone, Susan Secoy ABSTAINED: None MOTION CARRIED City of Orange -Design Review Committee Meeting Minutes for June 20, 2001 Page 6 4. DRC No. 3608 -TOYOTA OF ORANGE Wall signs for a newly renovated automobile dealership. 1400 N. Tustin Street Staff Contact: Christopher Carnes, Senior Planner DRC Action: Recommendation to Zoning Administrator Continued from 6-06-01 Meeting) The project was presented by William Mason -Architect, and Craig Whetter with Toyota of Orange. The proposal is install two new additional wall signs along the north and south elevations of their newly renovated showroom building. This is part of Toyota Corporation's new Image 2000" program. The project also involves a variance application that has been scheduled for the Zoning Administrator on June 21, 2001, pending the outcome of DRC's review. The project was opened for public comments: (None) Committee Chair Joe Woollett raised concerns with sign clutter due to the number of signs that are on this building. There is a total of five signs on that building and it would also be difficult to justify setting such a precedent. Craig Whetter stated that one of the primary goals for adding the new signage is to gain visibility from the 55 Freeway southbound. Committee Chair Joe Woollett stated that he could not see the dealership when he drove along that freeway. Craig Whetter stated that the signage is more visible at night when it is lighted. The new wall signs are intended to primarily address freeway traffic. Committee Member Alice Angus felt that the signs are addressing two different areas. She understands the need for corporate identification, and she does not have a problem with the proposed signage. Committee Member Leonard Filner agreed and stated that he also does not have any objections to the signage as proposed. MOTION was made by Committee Member Alice Angus to recommend approval of the project to the Zoning Administrator. SECOND: Leonard Filner AYES: Alice Angus, Leonard Filner NOES: Joe Woollett ABSENT: Mark Paone, Susan Secoy ABSTAINED: None MOTION CARRIED City of Orange -Design Review Committee Meeting Minutes for June 20, 2001 Page 7 5. DRC No. 3627 -DEL TACO Revised elevation plans for a fagade remodel and 280 sq. ft. building addition of an existing 1,624 sq. ft. restaurant. 1301 E. Katella Avenue Staff Contact: Mario Chavez-Marquez, Planning Aide DRC Action: Final Determination The project was presented by George Oldfield with Best Built Construction. The proposal is to modify the approved plans by stepping the new parapet roof back 9'-6" from the roof edge along the front (south) and rear (north) building elevations. The changes were necessitated due to concerns of blocking the visibility of existing tenants within the center. The project was opened for public comments: (None) MOTION was made by Committee Member Leonard Filner to approve the project as submitted. SECOND:Alice Angus AYES:Alice Angus, Leonard Filner, Joe Woollett NOES:None ABSENT:Mark Paone, Susan Secoy ABSTAINED:None MOTION CARRIED City of Orange -Design Review Committee Meeting Minutes for June 20, 2001 Page 8 6. DRC No. 3638 - CINGULAR WIRELESS New roof mounted wireless communications antenna facility on an existing commercial building. 202 W. Lincoln Avenue Staff Contact: Mario Chavez-Marquez, Planning Aide DRC Action: Final Determination The project was presented by Duan Dao -Consultant for Cingular Wireless. The proposal is to install a wireless communications facility on the roof of an existing 2-story commercial building. The facility consist of three sectors (2 antennas each) that are concealed within a new penthouse enclosure on top of the existing mansard roof at a maximum height of 32 ft. overall. The project was opened for public comments: (None) Committee Chair Joe Woollett asked what are the materials of the new enclosure. Duan Dao explained that the walls are conventional material (i.e. wood frame), and the roof is made of fiberglass (shaped and painted to match the existing roof). Committee Chair Joe Woollett raised concerns with this being an unusual kind of structure that does not tie-in with the rest of the building. Perhaps the existing roof can be extended and linked to the new roof so that it appears as one single roof element. Committee Member Leonard Filner noticed that the equipment is located on the ground at the end of the parking lot area. He asked if the conduits would be installed underground. Duan Dao stated that the conduits are installed underground and routed internally within the building so that it would not be exposed. MOTION was made by Committee Member Alice Angus to approve the project with the following conditions: 1. The antenna enclosure element shall be modified to reflect a continuous sloping mansard roof along three (3) sides. 2. No exposed conduits. All conduits shall be installed underground and routed internally within the building. SECOND: Leonard Filner AYES: Alice Angus, Leonard Filner, Joe Woollett NOES: None ABSENT: Mark Paone, Susan Secoy ABSTAINED: None MOTION CARRIED City of Orange -Design Review Committee Meeting Minutes for June 20, 2001 Page 9 7. DRC No. 3647 -JOANNA KONDRATH New 693 sq. ft. addition to include a family room, office, bedroom and bathroom, and the addition of a 100 sq. ft. porch at the rear of an existing residence In Old Towne. 336 S. Shaffer Street (Contributing Structure) Staff Contact: Daniel Ryan, Senior Planner -Historic Preservation DRC Action: Final Determination The project was presented by Joanna Kondrath (owner) and proposal is to construct a 693 sq.ft. addition and a 100 sq.ft single story residence. The existing residence is a 191 Contributing Structure within the Old Towne Historic District. The project was opened for public comments: her contractor David Konig. The porch at the rear of an existing 7 Bungalow, and is listed as a Robert Imboden, representing OTPA stated that the submitted plans are incomplete and lacked detailed information for review. These items are outlined in the project summary report prepared by City Planning Staff. He would also like to know what is the appearance of the foundation detail and how it relates to the foundation of the existing house. The shed roof and turned balusters on the rear porch seem to be more of a Victorian approach instead of a Craftsman vocabulary. The narrow chimney appears contemporary in style, and the window pattern (raised) seems inconsistent with the existing windows. Also, the addition appears like a second dwelling unit. David Konig stated that the new foundation would be pour-concrete to match the existing house. As fqr the rear porch, it is more of a utility porch that is generally not as ornate as the front porch. The turned balusters can be changed to square shaped ones. The chimney can be widened to look more traditional. The windows are raised to accommodate the use of dresser- type furniture on the interior. Joanna Kondrath confirmed that the room addition is not intended to be a second unit. She would like to have the extra space for her children and grandchildren. Jeff Frankel asked why is the rear (west) elevation labeled "front" elevation, and what is the floor-area ratio of the project. David Konig replied that the west elevation should be labeled as rear elevation. The project has a 0.32 floor-area ratio. Chair Woollett stated that there is a fairly extensive list of comments from staff, and that the applicant should follow the list closely and provide the necessary information that is needed for a more complete submittal. He agrees that rear porch does not have to following exactly like the front porch, but there should be some point of reference such as the use of square-shaped balusters instead of turned balusters. Windows should be wood double-hung with same profile to match existing. The Secretary of Interior Standards requires that a line of demarcation be provided to delineate the new addition from the existing historic house. Typically, a jog along the wall plane is the preferable method to accomplish this. An actual sample of the exterior finish materials should also be provided. Overall, he supports the project, but felt that more detail information is needed before if can be approved. City of Orange -Design Review Committee Meeting Minutes for June 20, 2001 Page 10 7. DRC No. 3647 -JOANNA KONDRATH (Continued) MOTION was made by Committee Member Alice Angus to continue the project based on the above discussion. SECOND: Leonard Filner AYES: Alice Angus, Leonard Filner, Joe Woollett NOES: None ABSENT: Mark Paone, Susan Secoy ABSTAINED: None MOTION CARRIED City of Orange -Design Review Committee Meeting Minutes for June 20, 2001 Page 11 8. DRC No. 3649 - LEADBAY New wall sign for a new tenant in an existing commercial building. 1045 W. Katella Avenue Staff Contact: Chuck Lau, Associate Planner DRC Action: Final Determination The project was presented by Phillip Sherba with Leadbay. The proposal is install a new wall sign at the pedestrian level fascia along the south building elevation. The sign is made of 2" thick foam channel letters. The wall sign is non-illuminated. Chair Joe Woollett informed the applicant the DRC had requested for a signage program from the property owner, but it has not been re-submitted for approved. Committee Member Alice Angus asked if the new wall sign would be the same blue color to match the existing Orange Community Bank sign at the top. Phillip Sherba confirmed that colors would match (Plexiglas - 2050 Blue). MOTION was made by Committee Member Alice Angus to approve the project with the following conditions: 1. New wall sign shall use the same Plexiglas - 2050 Blue to match the existing bank sign. 2. No other wall sign shall be allowed on this building until a signage program is submitted to the DRC for approval. SECOND: Leonard Filner AYES: Alice Angus, Leonard Filner, Joe Woollett NOES: None ABSENT: Mark Paone, Susan Secoy ABSTAINED: None MOTION CARRIED City of Orange -Design Review Committee Meeting Minutes for June 20, 2001 Page 12 9. DRC No. 3650 -OLIVE GARDEN Replacement wall signs for an existing restaurant. 2230 N. Tustin Street Staff Contact: Chuck Lau, Associate Planner DRC Action: Final Determination Approved as Consent Item) MOTION was made by Committee Chair Joe Woollett to approve the project as submitted. SECOND:Alice Angus AYES:Alice Angus, Leonard Filner, Joe Woollett NOES:None ABSENT:Mark Paone, Susan Secoy ABSTAINED:None City of Orange -Design Review Committee Meeting Minutes for June 20, 2001 Page 13 10. DRC No. 3653 -ELEGANCE IN TIME New wall signs for a retail business in a new commercial building. 1610 N. Tustin Street Staff Contact: Jay Eastman, Assistant Planner DRC Action: Final Determination Approved as Consent Item) MOTION was made by Committee Chair Joe Woollett to approve the project, subject to the conditions stated in the staff report as follows: 1. Signage shall be installed and constructed in substantial conformance with the plans approved by the Design Review Committee; labeled Exhibit B, C, and D; and dated June 20, 2001. 2. The raceway shall not exceed 12 inches in height or protrude more than 6 inches beyond the channel letters. 3. Channel letters shall be centered on the raceway. 4. The raceway shall be painted to match the masonry wall to which is attached. 5. The applicant shall pay the required filing fee for design review. A $140.00 fee shall be delivered to the City of Orange Planning Division within 2 working days of project approval. SECOND: Leonard Filner AYES: Alice Angus, Leonard Filner, Joe Woollett NOES: None ABSENT: Mark Paone, Susan Secoy ABSTAINED: None City of Orange -Design Review Committee Meeting Minutes for June 20, 2001 Page 14 11. DRC No. 3655 - GRIJALVA PARK New public park to include activity/concession/restrooms building, parking lot, play equipment, open sports field and lighting. Northwest corner of Prospect Street and Spring Street Staff Contact: Majid Farhat, Associate Civil Engineer DRC Action: Final Determination Although the applicants were not present to give a full presentation of the project, the DRC felt that it is a nice park plan overall, but more information and clarification is still needed as follows: 1. Provide pictures and specifications of lighting fixtures for sports fields, pedestrian walkways and parking lot areas. 2. Provide site lighting photometric plans for sports fields, pedestrian walkways and parking lot areas. 3. Clarify/indicate ground cover location on planting plan. 4. Identify type of turf on planting plan. 5. Recommend addition of landscape planter fingers at perpendicular parking area along Spring Street. MOTION was made by Committee Member Leonard Filner to continue the project. SECOND:Alice Angus AYES:Alice Angus, Leonard Filner, Joe Woollett NOES:None ABSENT:Mark Paone, Susan Secoy ABSTAINED:None DRC 06-20-01 Minutes