03-19-2008 DRC MinutesCITY OF ORANGE
DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE
MINUTES -FINAL
19 March 2008
Committee Members Present: Bill Cathcart
Adrienne Gladson
Tim McCormack
Craig Wheeler
Joe Woollett
Committee Members Absent: None
Staff in Attendance: Leslie Aranda Roseberry, Planning Manager
Dave De Berry, City Attorney
Robert Garcia, Associate Planner
Doris Nguyen, Associate Planner
Chad Ortlieb, Senior Planner
Sonal Thakur, Assistant Planner
Howard Morris, Senior Landscape Coordinator
Sandi Dimick, Recording Secretary
Administrative Session - 5:00 P.M.
The Committee met for an Administrative Session beginning at 5:10 p.m.
Chair Wheeler opened the Administrative Session with a review of the Agenda. There were no
changes to the Agenda.
Leslie Aranda Roseberry, Planning Manager, stated there was nothing new to report. Committee
Member Gladson had contacted Staff with questions and Staff was prepared to address those
questions during the meeting. Ms. Aranda Roseberry was in the process of putting together a
CEQA training session for a future meeting that would take place during the Administrative
Session.
Committee Member Cathcart made a motion to adjourn the Administrative Session.
Administrative Session adjourned at 5:15 p.m.
SECOND: Craig Wheeler
AYES: Bill Cathcart, Adrienne Gladson, Tim McCormack, Craig Wheeler, Joe Woollett
NOES: None
ABSTAIN: None
ABSENT: None
MOTION CARRIED.
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Regular Session - 5:30 P.M.
The meeting adjourned at approximately 7:51 p.m. to the next regular scheduled meeting on
Wednesday, Apri12, 2008.
PUBLIC PARTICIPATION
Opportunity for members of the public to address the Design Review Committee on
matters not listed on the Agenda.
No public attendees addressed the Design Review Committee on matters not listed on the
Agenda.
CONSENT ITEMS:
All matters that are announced as Consent Items are considered to be routine by the
Design Review Committee and will be enacted by one motion. There will be no separate
discussion of said items unless members of the Design Review Committee, staff or the
public request specific items to be removed from the Consent Items for separate action.
1) APPROVAL OF MINUTES: None
2) ADOPT A PROCLAMATION OF THE DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE OF THE
CITY OF ORANGE EXPRESSING APPRECIATION TO JON CALIFF FOR OVER
FIVE YEARS OF DEDICATED SERVICE TO THE CITY OF ORANGE AND THE
COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT.
3) ADOPT A PROCLAMATION OF THE DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE OF THE
CITY OF ORANGE EXPRESSING APPRECIATION TO DONNIE DeWEES FOR
OVER FOUR YEARS OF DEDICATED SERVICE TO THE CITY OF ORANGE AND
THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT.
Chair Wheeler made a motion to approve Consent Items (2) and (3), noting that items (4) and (5)
would be removed from Consent Items.
SECOND: Adrienne Gladson
AYES: Bill Cathcart, Adrienne Gladson, Tim McCormack, Craig Wheeler, Joe Woollett
NOES: None
ABSTAIN: None
ABSENT: None
MOTION CARRIED.
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AGENDA ITEMS:
Continued Items: None
New Agenda Items:
4) DRC No. 4310-07 - ST. JOSEPH'S MEDICAL OFFICE BUILDING AND CANCER
CENTER SIGN PROGRAM
A proposal for a sign program for the Medical Office Building and Cancer Center.
1000, 1010, & 1030 West La Veta Avenue
Staff Contact: Doris Nguyen, 714-744-7223, do a en ,cit o~forange.org
DRC Action: Final Determination
Committee Member Cathcart recused himself due to his affiliation with St. Joseph.
Associate Planner, Doris Nguyen, gave a project overview consistent with the Staff Report.
Public Comment
None.
Chair Wheeler opened the item for discussion by the Committee.
Committee Member Gladson asked if the sign package was compatible and similar with the
hospital signage?
Applicant, Mark England, address on file, stated yes, they were compatible as they followed a
corporate standard.
Committee Member Gladson suggested incorporating dimensions to the sign face of the
monument sign; possibly having routed out letters to give the sign more dimension and to add
the address onto the sign.
Ms. Nguyen stated there was a requirement for 10% of the sign to be the name and address.
Mr. England stated the address was on the top of the building.
Chair Wheeler asked if the requirement stated a monument sign shall have an address?
Ms. Nguyen stated she believed the monument sign required an address.
Mr. England stated there would not be a problem in adding the street address. The intent of the
sign was to have push-through lettering, flush with the surface of the sign. Having push-through
lettering extending past the sign face was problematic due to the curvature of the sign.
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Committee Member Gladson asked if only the white area of the sign would be illuminated? Mr.
England stated yes.
Committee Member Woollett clarified the metal would be cut so the plastic would be pushed
through the outer surface of the sign. He asked how the lettering would be suspended?
Mr. England stated the letters would be stud-mounted to the aluminum portion, pushed through
the acrylic and bolted on; it was a typical sign construction method.
Committee Member Gladson asked if LED lights could be used?
Mr. England stated it was more cost-effective not to utilize LED.
Committee Member McCormack stated in his prior service on the Design Review Committee a
raceway on signage was discouraged and he asked if the building sign would be mounted onto
glass?
Applicant, Jim Mynott, address on file, stated it would be mounted on the mullions.
Committee Member McCormack asked if there was a gap between the mounting and the
window?
Mr. Mynott stated there would be a slight gap.
Committee Member McCormack stated the mounting would create some cleaning/maintenance
issues and he suggested moving the sign off the glass. He asked Staff for clarification on the
City sign program regarding raceways?
Ms. Nguyen stated the code was silent regarding the use of raceways on signage.
Ms. Aranda Roseberry stated the project was discretionary and the code was silent in regard to
the use of raceways.
Committee Member McCormack stated he felt a raceway mounted onto glass, mounted on
mulleins, would not look good at all and it posed an interesting cleaning problem.
Mr. Mynott stated the letters would be sitting on the raceway and would be cleaned from behind.
To make the sign work with the building architecture and the amount of glass, the raceway was
used to provide the proper amount of backing to spread the load of the letters across the mullion.
It was also the location that was desired.
The Committee Members reviewed the drawings with the applicants.
Committee Member McCormack reiterated his concern that the sign would be problematic for
cleaning and maintenance, and asked if the sign could be mounted without the raceway on a non-
glass surface?
Mr. Mynott stated there was not anon-glass surface on the building.
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Ms. Nguyen stated there could be a larger gap between the sign and the glass in order to allow
for cleaning of the window.
Committee Member McCormack stated he had an issue with the use of a raceway and suggested
the applicant come up with a better idea as he felt the current proposal was not a good plan. He
stated there was no signage at the entrance of the facility for vehicles coming from the freeway
exits and he felt there would be confusion in way finding and asked if a directional sign could be
added at the parking lot entry?
Mr. Mynott stated they did not have rights for signage on that property as it belonged to the
hospital facility.
Mr. England stated there were awning signs and signage on the parking garage for way finding.
Committee Member McCormack asked if a right turn only sign could be added (pointing out an
area on the plans)?
Mr. England stated a right turn only sign could be added.
Chair Wheeler stated he trusted St. Joseph to properly maintain the building and he agreed with
the suggestion of moving the letter channel further away from the glass.
Mr. England stated structurally they could not move the channel more than 3", as it was moved
away from the glass in compromised the engineering mechanics of the sign. He felt confident
that it could be moved out at least 2 '/~" to create a gap.
Committee Member McCormack asked if the glass was clear and if people would be looking out
through the sign?
Mr. Mynott stated the glass area was in front of an unoccupied space and the glass was opaque.
Committee Member Woollett stated his understanding when opaque glass was used it was not
cleaned as the rain took care of cleaning and the areas of glass that would be cleaned were in
areas of unoccupied space. He agreed with pulling the raceway away from the mullein.
Committee Member Gladson stated she agreed with Committee Member Woollett and Chair
Wheeler.
Committee Member Gladson made a motion to approve DRC No. 4310-07, St. Joseph's Medical
Office Building and Cancer Center Sign Program, with the conditions contained in the Staff
Report and the following conditions:
1. Addition of address to the monument sign.
2. Expand raceway off of the mulleins to allow for ease of cleaning.
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SECOND: Joe Woollett
AYES: Adrienne Gladson, Craig Wheeler, Joe Woollett
NOES: Tim McCormack
ABSTAIN:None
ABSENT:None
RECUSED:Bill Cathcart
MOTION CARRIED.
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5) DRC No. 4315-07 & AA No. 157-07 -CHAPEL RESIDENCE
A proposal to add 412 sq. ft. to the first floor and a 735 sq. ft. second floor to an existing
single-story residence without expanding the existing garage to comply with current
standards.
312 South Crest Road
Staff Contact: Robert Garcia, 714-744-7231, r arcia(a,cit o~nge.org
DRC Action: Recommendation to the Zoning Administrator
Associate Planner, Robert Garcia, provided a project overview consistent with the Staff Report.
Applicant, Dennis Muth, address on file, stated his client wanted to add additional bedrooms and
a separate space for his children.
Public Comment
None.
Chair Wheeler opened the item for discussion by the Committee.
Chair Wheeler asked if the proposal would move from the DRC to the Zoning Administrator and
if this was their only time to review the project and should the Committee be addressing the
project for design?
Mr. Garcia stated yes, that was correct and the Committee should be addressing any design
issues.
Chair Wheeler stated he was not comfortable with adding so much square footage and not having
adequate off-street parking. In reviewing the drawings it appeared that it would be more difficult
to enter the garage and it might be necessary to add a stoop to get to the door. He also suggested
the roof plane be continued to tie the two structures together and he pointed out an area of
structural deficiency as the cantilever extended so much that it may require steel to take the uplift
load. He also pointed out discrepancies on the drawing regarding areas of wood siding and
stucco.
Committee Member McCormack pointed out an area on the plan where he had an issue with the
cantilever and he felt the mass was too big. He suggested stepping the addition structure back to
fit with the original architecture and to be more compatible with the surrounding properties.
Committee Member Woollett stated that a continuation of the roofline would add more mass.
The cantilever posed problems and he felt the building design needed to be studied further.
Chair Wheeler suggested coming up with a design that made the addition more compatible with
the existing structure.
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Committee Member Woollett stated he did not see a need to change the garage as it was an
existing condition and there was room for two cars. Also, the Code allowed an administrative
adjustment of this scope.
Committee Member Gladson stated she agreed with the garage to allow for it to be left in its
existing condition. There was a condition in the proposal to encourage the applicant to remedy
the parking situation.
Chair Wheeler made a motion to continue DRC No. 4315-07 and AA No. 157-07, Chapel
Residence, in order to:
1. Allow the applicant to review the design and mass issue.
2. Evaluate if a stoop was necessary and the impact on parking.
3. Speak with a structural engineer regarding the cantilever.
SECOND: Joe Woollett
AYES: Bill Cathcart, Adrienne Gladson, Tim McCormack, Craig Wheeler, Joe Woollett
NOES: None
ABSTAIN: None
ABSENT: None
MOTION CARRIED.
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6) DRC No. 4242-07 & MNSP No. 0518-07 -SPIRES EXPRESS
A proposal to develop a vacant site with a 2,600 sq. ft. drive-thru restaurant, a 3,000 sq.
ft. office building, landscaping, and parking lot paving.
1220 North Batavia Street
Staff Contact: Chad Ortlieb, 714-744-7237, cortlieb(a,cit oforange.org
DRC Action: Final Determination
Senior Planner, Chad Ortlieb, presented a project overview consistent with the Staff Report.
Public Comment
None.
Chair Wheeler opened the item for discussion by the Committee.
Committee Member Gladson asked if the Spires Express was a new concept?
Applicant, Milad Owetsan, address on file, stated the proposed project would be the first Spires
Express Restaurant. The building was not multi-tenant; the adjacent office was the corporate
office for Spires.
Committee Member Gladson asked what was the anticipated volume for the drive-thru?
Mr. Owetsan stated the food served would be fast food items, and it was the very first of its type;
they did not have an anticipated volume at this time.
Chair Wheeler stated he was pleased to see the Googie style of design and suggested moving
away from using foam cornice and suggested stainless steel cornice or other material. He
suggested using the instead of artificial stone.
Mr. Owetsan stated theyhad initially designed the building with tile; however, at the owner's
request had changed it to stone.
Chair Wheeler suggested turning the building to give a better visual to patrons on Katella, which
would be the eye catcher.
Mr. Owetsan stated they had turned the building in that manner but felt the current placement
worked better for the drive-thru with the stacking involved. They wanted to keep the focal point
on the corner and the monument sign would be for the Spires Restaurant only.
Committee Member McCormack asked if there would be an address on the sign?
Mr. Owetsan stated yes there would be an address.
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Committee Member Woollett reviewed the elevations to gain clarification on the building
placement. He stated he admired the color palette and asked how accurate were the colors as
represented?
Mr. Owetsan stated they would come within 85% of the proposed color palette.
Committee Member McCormack suggested back lighting to create a beacon back to Katella. He
was interested in reviewing the lighting plan. He also pointed out a parking space that would
necessitate backing into the drive-thru area to get out of the space and suggested removing it.
Mr. Owetsan stated there was a 4' return allowed for a car to back out of the space.
Committee Member McCormack asked for clarification on the proposed landscaped areas?
Mr. Owetsan pointed out the areas on the plan for the proposed landscape that would include an
irrigation plan.
Senior Landscape Coordinator, Howard Morris, stated there were some empty tree wells on
Batavia that needed tree replacement.
Committee Member McCormack stated the proposed tree sizes seemed small.
Mr. Owetsan stated the condition for trees was to provide 24" trees.
Committee Member Cathcart had a concern with the selection of Phoenix Dactylifera rather than
Phoenix Robellini. Most of the ground cover proposed was fescue turf, and he suggested a more
conventional ground cover, as mowing between the plantings would not be possible. He had no
problems with the landscaping along Batavia; however, at the corner he felt limiting the plant
palette at that location would be better.
Committee Member McCormack pointed out an area where larger trees could be used.
Mr. Owetsan reviewed the plans and pointed out another area where a tree could be used. He
reviewed the landscape areas with the Committee.
Committee Member Cathcart stated that the size of the planting materials should be looked at for
their immediate affect.
Committee Member McCormack asked if the applicant was set on the idea of using Palm trees
for their concept?
Mr. Owetsan stated they did not have to use Palms.
Chair Wheeler stated the Palms would be appropriate for the design.
Committee Member Cathcart suggested the applicant review the suggested plant variety to
ensure they were properly noted on the plans.
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Chair Wheeler stated in regard to the cornice, if they used the cornice, to rework the areas where
the cornice stopped abruptly.
Mr. Owetsan stated the elevation Chair Wheeler was referring to would not be seen. The design
could be simplified to add a recess for indirect lighting and the fascia material could be metal.
The design would be kept nice and simple.
Chair Wheeler stated the design could use ceramic tiles for the base.
Chair Wheeler made a motion to continue DRC No. 4242-07 and MNSP No. 0518-07, Spires
Express, with the following suggestions:
1. Study approaches to the cornice treatment for both structures.
2. Evaluate use of other materials to substitute the use of artificial stone.
3. Study lighting to be built into the cornice/lighting on the signage.
4. Re-evaluate the use of Palm tree variety and tree size.
5. Substitute plant materials and simplify planting at the corner of the property.
6. Place handicapped signs in planting area.
7. Change trellis to a square pattern.
SECOND: Joe Woollett
AYES: Bill Cathcart, Adrienne Gladson, Tim McCormack, Craig Wheeler, Joe Woollett
NOES: None
ABSTAIN: None
ABSENT: None
MOTION CARRIED.
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7) DRC No. 4301-07 -MARKET BROILER PATIO EXPANSION
A proposal to construct a 638 sq. ft. patio/lounge area in association with the existing
restaurant.
20 City Boulevard West, Building J, #R-6
Staff Contact: Sonal Thakur, 714-744-7239, sthakur a,cit o~ange.org
DRC Action: Recommendation to the Planning Commission
Assistant Planner, Sonal Thakur, presented a project overview consistent with the Staff Report.
Public Comment
None.
Chair Wheeler opened the item for discussion by the Committee.
Committee Member Woollett stated the exterior wall of the building was different from the
exterior of the adjacent building. The shopping center itself was characterized by many different
shapes, forms and colors and that was what made the center work. It appeared that the designer
wanted to treat the outside building as if it was not part of another building. The buildings along
the walkway had different awnings and appearances and the proposed project should stand on its
own.
Chair Wheeler stated he agreed with Committee Member Woollett's comments.
Committee Member Woollett understood Staff's approach as they were following the design
rules; however, the various designs at The Block at Orange broke all the rules. The consistent
style element was inconsistency.
Chair Wheeler suggested the applicant study the support structure of the awning as it appeared
weak.
Committee Member Cathcart stated he was concerned that the wall should be high enough to
discourage skateboarders.
Committee Member McCormack asked what was the awning material?
Ms. Thakur stated it was noted on Sheet K2.1, Sunbrella was the manufacturer of the fabric
material.
Committee Member McCormack stated the awning would be mounted on a curved frame with a
Palm tree pushing through it. He liked the idea and wanted clarification on how that would
work. On Plan Sheet K3.3 there was reference to the addition of a 4' tree grate on an existing
Palm tree. The existing Palms that tied the center together had curbing with a trained vine
growing onto the Palm tree and asked if the existing pavement would be left to run up to the
entry?
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Applicant, Travis Kamiayama, address on file, stated yes the paving would remain.
Committee Member McCormack asked for clarification on the lighting?
Mr. Kamiayama stated there would not be any LED or fluorescent white light and the lighting
would be compatible.
Chair Wheeler asked for clarification on the use of the Tiki torches? Mr. Kamiayama stated the
corporate chef was from Hawaii and the sushi theme went with that.
Mr. Kamiayama confirmed for the Committee Members that the cap material on the wall would
be concrete.
Committee Member McCormack stated on the fire pit they would need to add an automatic gas
shut off.
Chair Wheeler made a motion to recommend to the Planning Commission DRC No. 4301-07,
Market Broiler, subject to the conditions of the Staff Report and the following conditions:
1. Remove Condition No. 2; awning should not match the existing awnings on the
properties exterior.
2. Delete the tree well grate and keep the existing vegetation on the Palm trees.
3. Light type and color to be compatible - no white lighting.
SECOND: Adrienne Gladson
AYES: Bill Cathcart, Adrienne Gladson, Tim McCormack, Craig Wheeler, Joe Woollett
NOES: None
ABSTAIN: None
ABSENT: None
MOTION CARRIED.
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8) DRC No. 4316-07 - EMANUEL ROMANIAN CHURCH OF ORANGE
A proposal to demolish the existing 8,427 sq. ft. church, classrooms, fellowship hall, and
parking lot to construct a new 24,226 sq. ft. church, fellowship hall, classrooms, and
parking lot. Staff requests DRC input on how to integrate the design with the
surrounding neighborhood.
1424 East Walnut Avenue
Staff Contact: Doris Nguyen, 714-744-7223, dnguyen@cityoforange.org
DRC Action: Preliminary Review
Associate Planner, Doris Nguyen, presented a project overview consistent with the Staff Report.
Applicant, David Pfeifer, address on file, stated the site already had an existing church and the
proposed uses were already in existence on the site. He was present to explain their approach to
the project. Staff had made determinations on the architectural style. They looked at the fabric of
Walnut Avenue which was predominantly residential and at fairly regular intervals there were
institutional uses sprinkled along the street. The buildings were purposefully different than the
surrounding uses in mass, style and presented landmarks in the neighborhood. Mr. Pfeifer
wanted to obtain clarity on Staff's opinion to blend the building into the residential
neighborhood. They did not want the proposed project to look like a house; it was a house of
worship, however, needed more formal notions that spoke to the massing. He pointed out the
other churches that were located in the area.
Mr. Pfeifer gave an overview of the site plan and stated in putting the project together they
remained respectful of the residences and maintained an institutional presence on Walnut
Avenue. The building would be 23,000 sq. ft., 9,000 in the basement, 9,000 in the main level
and there was a 42' tower area that would be two-story with offices upstairs and downstairs, a
lobby and restrooms. The parking plan had exceeded the City requirement. The plan included
enhanced paving, shade trees and a canopy as people would enter from the parking lot. There
would also be planting strips in the parking lot areas. The materials used would be concrete
block, using two different colors and textures. The roof would have a pewter eave. They wanted
to give the project a sense of permanence and stability.
Ms. Aranda Roseberry stated Staff had met with the architect some weeks ago and they had
relayed their concerns with the massing of the project and the compatibility of the neighborhood;
Staff did not ask that they design the church to look like a house. The project that was being
reviewed was different than what originally had been brought to Staff. They suggested that the
applicant come forward to the DRC to receive suggestions prior to a formal submittal. There
should be some consensus to the recommendations in order to give the applicant clear direction.
The applicant would return at a later date with their formal submittal.
Public Comment
None.
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Chair Wheeler opened the item to discussion by the Committee.
Committee Member Woollett stated he was pleased with the modification to the original
drawings as they addressed his concerns regarding the scale of the project. He felt the comments
the applicant made about the multiple uses on Walnut Avenue were right on target. There were
different types of uses along Walnut and there was not a need to make the proposed project the
same scale or design as other structures along Walnut and he did not have a problem with the
project. The proposed design reflected the heritage of Romanian culture. The lower roof form
recesses and larger windows were very good. The design was very passive and it fit.
Chair Wheeler stated he agreed with Committee Member Woollett's comments and he liked the
proposed project very much. He felt a church should not match the neighborhood; rather it
should be an exclamation mark in the neighborhood. He suggested on the lintels to use a
stronger form.
Committee Member Gladson stated the DRC process was subjective. She felt the institutional
aspect of the project was not very warm. The whole purpose of church was to make people feel
welcome and she did not get that feel from the proposed design and there was still a question
about compatibility. She asked what did the neighbors think about the church and she suggested
that they get feedback from them before going forward.
Ms. Nguyen stated as part of the public review for the initial study the proposed project would go
through a public comment process.
Committee Member Cathcart stated the structure was not ornamental and did not lose its focus.
The important symbol was the cross and further details would interfere with that. He suggested
the trees in the parking lot should be Evergreens, as the plantings got closer to the church they
could be flowering and of a different variety.
Mr. Pfeifer asked for a suggestion on the trees?
Committee Member Cathcart stated the applicant should look at the existing trees, Ficus, that
when properly maintained would be good. He was not advocating Ficus, but a tree similar would
work.
Committee Member McCormack stated he liked the project. He liked the feel of the church and
wanted that feeling to extend to the neighborhood. Most of the other churches in the area were
set back and he suggested that was something they could explore. He felt the applicant should
look at the existing trees to see if they could be maintained as it gave apark-like feel and
provided adequate shade.
Ms. Nguyen asked if the project should have landscaping in the front?
Committee Member McCormack stated he did not feel landscaping should be required in the
front. He suggested on the canopy in the back of the building that they should explore the use of
trees in that area and possibly making the canopy area a room.
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Committee Member Woollett stated there could be neighborhood protest and he felt the real
concern from the neighbors would not be towards the building. The neighbors would have
concerns regarding the cars. The protests may be for other issues; however, the underlying issue
would be about the cars and traffic. The City was clear in their requirement for parking and it
appeared that the proposed project would meet that requirement.
Ms. Aranda Roseberry stated Staff would go through those issues prior to the item coming back
to the DRC.
Committee Member Woollett stated the design was very sophisticated and the architect had done
a very good job in dealing with the issues. He felt not many people would understand the
proposed project.
Committee Member Gladson stated that would be the challenge and the applicant needed to find
a way to communicate to the community, with a thoughtful approach, their intentions.
Committee Member McCormack stated the proposed project lighting plan should take into
consideration light spillage and light pollution.
A motion was not required on the proposed project as it was presented for preliminary review.
The following suggestions were made:
1. There was general comfort with the scale and style of the structure.
2. The parking lot trees should be of an Evergreen species and provide mass and shading.
3. Explore ways of keeping existing trees.
4. Trees in courtyard should create a courtyard feel.
5. Begin an open dialogue with the community/neighboring properties.
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ADJOURNMENT:
A motion was made by Committee Member Woollett to adjourn to the next regular meeting on
Wednesday, April 2, 2008.
SECOND: Tim McCormack
AYES: Bill Cathcart, Adrienne Gladson, Tim McCormack, Craig Wheeler, Joe Woollett
NOES: None
ABSTAIN: None
ABSENT: None
MOTION CARRIED.