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Commission
City of
Orange May 3,
1999 Monday - 7:
00 p.m.PRESENT: Commissioners Bosch,
Carlton, Pruett, Romero, Smith ABSENT: None STAFF
PRESENT: Vern
Jones,
Planning Manager/Secretary John Godlewski, Principal
Planner,Mary Binning, Assistant
City Attorney,Roger Hohnbaum, Assistant
City Engineer, and Sue Devlin, Recording
Secretary IN RE: CONSENT
CALENDAR 1. a. Approval
of the Minutes from the Regular Meeting of April 5, 1999.MOTION Moved by
Commissioner
Romero, seconded by Commissioner Carlton, to approve the Minutes of April 5,1999.AYES:NOES:
ABSTAINED:
Commissioners
Bosch,
Carlton,
Romero None Commissioners Pruett,
Smith
MOTION CARRIED 1. b. Approval
of the Minutes from the Regular Meeting of April 19, 1999.MOTION Moved by
Commissioner
Carlton, seconded by Commissioner Smith, to approve the Minutes of April 19,1999.AYES:NOES:
ABSTAINED:
Commissioners
Carlton,
Pruett,
Smith None Commissioners Bosch,
Romero
MOTION CARRIED 2. Modification to
Conditional Use Permit 2265-98 - Selman Chevrolet; Request to Delete Condition #1.A consideration of
street improvement and property dedication requirements for a previously-approved proposal to
construct a building addition and replace a modular building at an auto sales facility. The applicant requests
that these requirements be modified or deleted. The site is located at 1800 East Chapman Avenue.
RECOMMENDATION: Delete
Condition #1 trom approved C.U.P. 2265-98.MOTION
Moved
by Commissioner Romero, seconded by Commissioner Smith, to approve the Consent Calendar.AYES:
NOES:
Commissioners
Bosch, Carlton, Pruett, Romero, Smith None
MOTION CARRIED
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IN RE:CONTINUED HEARING
3. APPEAL NO. 458 (RE: CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 2275-99) - DON AND KAJA DONIKOWSKI,
APPELLANT
The applicant is appealing the Zoning Administrator's decision to deny the proposed expansion of a small
family daycare home (6 or fewer children) to a large family daycare (between 6 to 14 children), The site is
located at 7916 East Horseshoe Trail.
NOTE:This project is categorically exempt from the provisions of the California Environmental Quality
Act, per State CEQA Guidelines Section 15301,
Ms. Binning outlined her findings regarding State law requirements in consideration of a large family
daycare permit, which are incorporated in a memorandum dated April 22, 1999, If a City has enacted an
ordinance regulating certain specific areas, which are provided for under State law - spacing and concentration,
traffic control, parking, noise control and State Fire Marshal standards - then a hearing can be held
to consider whether or not the permit application meets the requirements that are in the City's ordinance. The
City of Orange has an ordinance and outlines three (3) requirements that it requires large family daycare
homes to meet One is that no other licensed, permitted home may be within 300 feet The City'
s noise ordinance must be complied with, outside play only being allowed between 8:00 a,m. and 8:00
p.m. On-site garages and parking must meet the zone requirements. State law refers to permits and the
City uses a conditional use permit process for this type of hearing, However, the normal findings would
not be used,The
public hearing was opened,Applicant.
Don Donikowski, 7916 East Horseshoe Trail, said they meet all of the requirements and still want
to expand their daycare business.Two (
2) people spoke in opposition Bill
Maloof, 7814 Lakeview Trail Harold
Aspgren, 7920 Horseshoe Trail They
still opposed the expanded daycare facility in their neighborhood. There will be a loss of taxes for the
City as a result of lower property values, This business will put a liability on the homeowner's association
and will increase traffic in the area. It does not belong in a planned unit development with private
streets,Applicant'
s response Mr.
Donikowski said every third house in their development has children. He invited the Commissioners to
make a site visit at any time, He hopes to relocate their daycare business to a commercial site in the future,
but does not have a time frame, They do not advertise and there are no signs at the property. The State
requires one (1) adult to care for six (6) children or less; two (2) adults are required to care for more than
six (6).The
public hearing was closed,Commissioner
Carlton said the Commission's hands are tied by State law requirements, However, she did feel
this was a wrong use for the neighborhood,Commissioner
Smith didn't like the tone of discussion and was concerned with the neighbors' attitude towards
children. There has to be a safe and appropriate place for children. She supports the small daycare
use, but cannot support the expanded use because of the narrow streets and private community.2
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Commissioner Romero agreed this large family daycare center is not appropriate for the planned
community due to the zero setback and narrow streets. But, the Commission does not have the ability to
vote otherwise.
Chairman Bosch stated the State has superseded the City in this matter. He concurs with the need to
provide for the children, but he also believed there should be a methodology where the rights and values
of adjacent property owners should be respected and protected. The other concern he had was the
process in the ordinance for providing a hearing through a conditional use permit Yet the City has been
superseded in being able to make findings. He is concerned about the appearance of a conditional use
permit being granted and running with the property when it is not the case, nor the need, under State law.
Ms, Binning clarified that State law does not require a hearing; it is optional. The State gives the City three
3) ways to approach this issue, only one of which would authorize the City to have a hearing, The actual
terminology used in the State law is just simply a permit This needs to be treated as a C,U.P" but omit the
findings, This permit would not run with the land. but this is strictly personal to the applicant
Chairman Bosch said under State law, Mr, Donikowski is allowed to expand the daycare use,
It was noted the project is categorically exempt from CEQA review,
MOTION
Moved by Commissioner Romero, seconded by Commissioner Smith to approve Appeal No. 458
regarding Conditional Use Permit 2275-99 with the three (3)
requirements.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAINED:Commissioners Carlton. Romero,
Smith Commissioner
Bosch Commissioner Pruett MOTION
CARRIED Chairman Bosch requested sfatt to research and review the current ordinance to make it known to
the citizens of Orange if the City desires to establish State approved review criteria for large family
daycare facilities, Guidelines for this type of use needs to be addressed and conditions spelled out He voted
no in protest against the unfairness of the way that the law has been set up. This is a business with
an employee at a residence. The City's rules and regulations have been thrown out by State
law.Commissioner Pruett abstained from discussion because he was not present for the first hearing.
When looking at the issue of daycare for children in a private development, there should be something the
City can do to ensure that there is property liability coverage and other issues related to the
facilities.IN RE:NEW
HEARINGS 4, CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 2282-99 - LA PLATA
ENTERPRISES A request to allow construction of a two-story, 20-unit senior citizen apartment building. The
site is located at 170
North Prospect Street.NOTE:This project is categorically exempt from the provisions of the
California Environmental Quality Act, per State CEQA
Guidelines Section 15332,There was no opposition to this item and the full presentation of the staff
report was waived,Chairman Bosch noted the Commission received a letter dated April 30, 1999
from Plaza Development,owners of the adjacent Fern Garden
Senior Housing Community.The public
hearing
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Wavne Arnold. 2030 Main Street. #660. Irvine, is the attorney representing the applicant He introduced
the developers and architect who were in the audience, They feel there is a great need for senior housing
and wish to develop this 20-unit senior apartment complex, The owners have entered into a contract
to purchase the property subject to the approval of the conditional use permit Single-family
residential use or commercial use for this property is not the best use, There is no on-street parking and the
lot is very narrow, The Design Review Board reviewed the project and determined they could
not support the project as proposed, Because of the timing of the contract, revisions based on
DRB's recommendations were not made, However, the applicant has made some changes in the plans and
revised their elevation,They addressed the DRB's concern about re-designing the building as a 3-
story building around a central corridor, but it is not practical for the lot The intent is to occupy the
building with senior citizens; however,the applicant wants some flexibility in case they are not able to fill
the units with that market Commissioner Carlton was concemed that there was no community room. the
location of the laundry room was a problem and there was a lack of guest parking, She also stated there
needs
to be an on-site manager,Mr. Arnold explained
there would be an on-site manager.Sam Bevacqua. 819 South Arden Street. Anaheim, is the
architect for the project He addressed the issue of the laundry and community rooms. This area was set up for
a gathering/activity area in addition to the patio at the rear of the building. Guest parking is
not required; however, staff suggested that they create a guest parking space,
as well as a handicapped parking space.Commissioner Smith stated the laundry room is not
an appropriate community room for senior citizens.She was not comfortable in allowing them the flexibility of renting
to non-seniors. They have applied for a senior
housing complex and the code requirements are relaxed,Mr. Amold stated they are not seeking any special concessions
under the code. The main driving force is parking, They cannot provide enough parking on this site for
a sufficient
number of units if these were family apartments,Commissioner Pruett asked about emergency buzzers
and intercom systems. He asked what they are going to be hooked up to and
will they be monitored on a 24-hour basis,Arturo Mier. 170 North Prospect, is one of the developers for
the project. He said this complex will be for active senior citizens, He understands that the
buzzers and intercom do not need to be monitored through a central station. But, they can be installed so
that there would be access to
the manager's apartment in case of an emergency.Commissioner Romero is concerned about the
privacy issue with the adjacent property,
He wanted to know how that would be resolved.Mr. Arnold stated there was heavy landscaping on both
sides of the property and he
believed there would be adequate privacy between the properties,Mr, Bevacqua said they are providing a 10 foot side yard
setback and the area is heavily planted by the adjoining apartments. It would be hard to see
anyone over there from the way the buildings are configured, He suggested planting additional trees
and foliage to help
screen the two properties rather than raising the wall.Chairman Bosch asked if the plans have beenreviewed by
the Fire Department. There is a 6,4 foot setback to the property line, rather than 10 feet.
He's concerned about fire safety protection of the openings in the parking structure, which are there
for
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essentially half of the exiting capability of the structure goes past the 6.4 foot setbacks and he asked if this
meets the Uniform Building Code requirements. He is also concerned about the lack of privacy for the
seniors,
Mr. Bevacqua replied the Fire Department has reviewed their plans twice, The building will have fire
sprinklers, He shared his design philosophy with the Commission in terms of privacy and community
gathering spaces, TIle walkways are designed to be used as a semi-meeting place, The rear yard
is considered to be open space, He really wanted the one side yard to be more open to the existing
senior complex next door. He talked about their plans to provide 22 parking spaces and the trash
enclosure,Storage areas are not proposed in this
plan,Chairman Bosch had difficulty in reviewing a plan where there is going to be a lot of
changes,Two (2) people spoke reqardinq this
proiect Vince Faragamo, 6715 Horseshoe
Road,Bob Bennyhoff, 10642 Morada Drive. Orange Park
Acres.They believed the highest and best use of this site is a senior citizens apartment complex as
proposed,This is a major improvement for the area and it will be beneficial to the community, The Design
Review Board denied the project and the denial should be
addressed,Applicant's
response Mr. Arnold said the DRB's concerns are going to be addressed; however, the changes have not
been added to the plans, The terms of the contract between the sellers and buyers provide that the
conditional use permit must be granted in order for the sale to go forward. He thought this was a worthy project
and the developers have shown a willingness to work with the City to make changes to meet
concerns,The public hearing was
closed,Commissioner Smith had a few concerns. She heard the applicant say they would be willing to provide
a community room, She was not certain how the Commission could move forward without seeing
revised plans, She felt strongly that if the project were going to come in under the code for senior citizens, that
it should be a project for senior citizens. It should not be available for non-seniors, It is not fair for the
of her developers who have built senior projects who had to comply with the code and had to, under
the law,rent
to seniors,Commissioner Pruett also had many concerns about the project There are no balconies or patio
areas for people to use for private outside space. The way the project is designed, it would cause someone
to be confined to their room, or to the area that is in the back of the building, He doesn't see that there is
a real quality of life with that type of a design. He's also concerned about the density of
the project Commissioner Carlton agreed with every1hing that has been said, She has seen projects that
have a central hallway, with balconies, The laundry rooms are located on each floor in the center of
the building,in a separate room, It's unfortunate that there is a deadline for this transacfion to be
completed, The project should be well designed to accommodate the seniors, She would like to see
the project continued in order for another plan to be
brought forward,Chairman Bosch believed the location is satisfactory for senior housing, They must look at
the current code relative to the property next door in terms of the density, The density doesn't worry him,
if the density is offset by amenities. One amenity is the senior housing. Landscaping and screening
can be added, There is space to work with on-site parking, The community room is an amenity that
can be talked about, but it is not required by code, He wanted to know if this project had enough qualities to
it with the changes that need to be made to the design, that would allow the conditional use permit
to
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and approved with appropriate conditions, It appears from DRB's Minutes that they didn't like the balcony
design.
Commissioner Carlton encouraged the applicant to submit a plan that is different from the one they
originally submitted. She doesn't like the configuration of the building and some issues need to be
addressed, A senior project at this site would be very beneficial because of the location.
The Commission stated their concerns: The project must be 100% for senior citizens, guest parking and
handicapped parking, ex1ra storage in the parking area. community room, relocation of the laundry room,
patio area needs a patio cover and other amenities to be more friendly. side walkways and balconies, an
internal passageway, trash location, density of the project, elevator needs to meet ADA requirements for
handicapped accessibility yet not destroy the livability of the northeast unit. open to looking at exterior
corridors if there is a substantial level of increased amenity in the design, enhanced landscaping, south
wall screening. and there is concern relating to the way the balconies and circulation works to the living
environment to the southwest unit on the first floor. and adjust location of ramp without diminishing the
code formula for an open parking garage ventilation,
The Commission asked the applicant if they were willing to continue the project to address their concerns,
Mr, Arnold stated the applicant favored a 45-day continuance in order to address the issues raised by
the Commission, They will work towards getting an ex1ension to their escrow in order to make the
necessary changes to the
plan.It was noted the project is categorically exempt from CEQA
review.
MOTION Moved by Commissioner Smith, seconded by Comrnission Carlton, to continue Conditional Use
Permit 2282-99 to the meeting of June 21, 1999 with the conditions. as discussed by the Commission,
to be integrated into the plan, and waive the resubmittal of said plan to the Design
Review
Board,
AYES:NOES:Commissioners Bosch, Carlton, Pruett,
Romero, Smith None
MOTION CARRIED RECESS - The Chair recessed the meeting at 9:30 p,
m.RECONVENE - The meeting reconvened at 9:40 p,m.
5, CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 2286-99 - CENTEX HOMES
A request to allow the construction of single family residences with a front yard that would vary from 10 to
20 feet. The site is located in the Serrano Heights Specific Plan. Development Area 1; Tract 15696,
including 84 lots.
NOTE:This project is categorically exempt from the provisions of the California Environmental Quality
Act per State CEQA Guidelines Section 15303,
Chairman Bosch excused himself from the meeting due to a potential conflict of interest. Vice-Chair
Smith chaired the
hearing,There was no opposition to this item and the public hearing was
opened,Frank Elfend. Elfend & Associates. 18101 Von Karman, Irvine. represented the property owner.
He submitted a letter to the Commission on April 29, 1999, outlining some of the enhancements of the
plan being considered. Centex Homes proposes to build larger lots. they have a larger FA R. average,
and
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there will be larger homes with higher prices, There are less units than what was permitted in the Specific
Plan as well. They have created a one-story look-alike to lower the mass and density
from
adjacent developments,Public comments
were made:Bob Bennvhoff. 10642 Morada Drive, Oranqe Park Acres, liked the proposed project and
stated they finally get four (4) acres for
a park,Cheryl Hamlin. 2139 North Grandview Road. stated her back yard backs up to the
proposed development She and her husband have three (3) concerns, Part of their rear yard has been removed to
allow the builders to build in closer; however, it is now two (2) months past an original completion date
they were given at the time they signed a paper allowing the builders to do this, There has been
very poor communication between the homeowners and developer, Phone calls are not being returned
and their answers are not being answered, They wanted some assurance before construction starts, that
their rear yard will be addressed. The closest home in the new development will be 40 to 45 feet down
slope from them, She asked what assurance do they have that this will be followed and not changed,
Once the construction starts, she wanted to know what provisions or precautions would be taken to cut down
on the amount of dirt and dust as they live in a very high wind area. A soils and compaction report
is needed because they can't move forward with
their landscaping,Brad Kyle. 2167 North Grandview Road, stated he was not given extra footage of their rear yard.
They are lacking 15 feet from what was originally sold to them by Standard Pacific and represented to them as
a cut lot. His concern is that the lot will no longer be able to be depicted in a resale value as a cut lot
He wanted to know how that will affect his resale value of the property. He also wanted some reassurance
about the soil compaction because he is ready to put in
a pool.Vice-Chair Smith sympathized with Mr. Kyle's concerns, but did not think it was related to
this project for reduced
front lot sizes,Ms. Binning stafed the applicant is Centex Homes. She hasn't heard that the applicant
for the conditional use permit has been involved in any way in this dispute over grading and dirt. There may
be a possible dispute between private property owners, but the City would
not be involved,
Applicant's response:Mr. E~end received a call from Mr. Hamlin last week and the project manager went out to
their home, Much larger rear yards for the existing homeowners will be the result of this grading, There
have been time delays. but they want to be specific on the geological reports, He assured the
Commission and neighbors the project will be completed in a timely fashion. A dust control management plan is in place
and will be used while building these homes. Mr, E~end is in agreement with the conditions of
approval, noting that condition 3 is revised to reflect 30%
rather than 39%,The public
hearing was closed,Commissioner Pruett thought the testimony received on the part of the two parties who
own the adjacent properties is
a separate issue,It was noted the project is categorically exempt
from
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MOTION
Moved by Commissioner Pruett, seconded by Commissioner Carlton, to approve Conditional Use Permit
2286-99 with conditions 1 through 8 listed in the staff report, revising condition 3 to state 30%, with
the findings that the project is granted upon sound land use principles and in response to the requirements
of the community. The set back requirements will not cause deterioration of bordering land uses or
create special problems as it relates to the set backs, It has been considered in relationship to the
community and the neighborhood plans in the area. The conditional use permit is made subject to those
conditions necessary to preserve the general welfare, not the individual welfare of the
applicant
AYES:
NOES:
ABSENT:Commissioners Carlton, Pruett, Romero,
Smith
None Commissioner Bosch MOTION
CARRIED Vice-Chair Smith personally encouraged the residents to deal with the people to whom they
made
their agreements.Chairman Bosch returned to
the meeting,6, CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 2287-99 - TGIFriday'
s RESTAURANT A request to allow the expansion of an existing restaurant that sells alcoholic beverages
for on-site consumption, The site is located at
3339 Entertainment Avenue,NOTE:This project is categorically exempt from the provisions of the
California Environmental Quality Act per State CEQA
Guidelines Section 15303,There was no opposition to this project; therefore, the full presentation of the staff
report was waived.And, the public
hearing was opened,Deborah Kerr. 4655 Cass Street. Suite 200. San Dieqo, is the consultant representing
TGIFriday's, They have reviewed the conditions of approval and concur with them, They are wanting to
expand the patio area, upgrade the accessibility of the interior of the restaurant and upgrade the
restrooms. The exterior remodel of the building was reviewed and approved by the Design Review
Board. Their Alcohol Management Program has been approved by
the Police Department.The public
hearing was closed,It was noted the project is categorically exempt
from
CEQA review,MOTION Moved by Commissioner Smith, seconded by Commissioner Romero to approve
Conditional Use Permit 2287-99, with conditions 1 through 15. revising condition 1 to include the addition of the
gate at the rear exit ramp in the patio area, The Commission finds that the conditional use permit
is granted upon sound principles of land use and in response to services required by the community.
It will not cause deterioration of bordering land uses or create special problems for the area in which the site
is located, It is considered in relationship to its effect on the community and is made
subject to those conditions necessary to preserve the general welfare, not the individual
welfare
of
the applicant AYES:NOES:Commissioners Bosch,
Carlton, Pruett, Romero,
Smith
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IN RE:ADJOURNMENT
Moved by Commissioner Bosch. seconded by Commissioner Smith. to adjourn to a study session on
Monday, May 10.1999 at 5:30 p,m, in Conference Room C to discuss Old Towne review processes. The
meeting adjourned at 10:20 p.m,
AYES:
NOES:
Commissioners Bosch, Carlton. Pruett, Smith, Romero
None MOTION CARRIED
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