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CITY
OF ORANGE PLANNING
COMMISSION DECEMBER
16, 1991 MONDAY -
7:00 P.M.PRESENT:
Commissioners Bosch, Cathcart, Master, Murphy, Scott ABSENT:
None STAFF
PRESENT:
Joan Wolff, Sr. Planner and Commission Secretary;John
Godlewski, Administrator of Current Planning;Jack
McGee, Director of Community Development;Bob
Herrick, Assistant City Attorney;Gary
Johnson, City Engineer; and Sue
Devlin, Recording Secretary PLEDGE
OF ALLEGIANCE IN
RE: MINUTES OF NOVEMBER 18. 1991 AND DECEMBER 2.1991 Moved
by Commissioner Master, seconded by Commissioner Murphy,to
approve the Minutes of November 18, 1991 and December 2, 1991 as
recorded.AYES:
NOES:
Commissioners
Bosch, Cathcart, Master, Murphy, Scott None
MOTION CARRIED IN
RE: CONTINUED HEARING ZONE
CHANGE 1139-91, CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 1919-
91,NEGATIVE DECLARATION 1387-91 - HYRAIL PARTNERS,
LTD.A request for a zoning classification of R-O (
Recreation-Open Space District), and a request for a conditional use permit
to allow the construction and operation of a
mini-warehouse and self-storage facility with a 2-story
manager's residential unit. Subject property is an abandoned
railroad right-of-way measuring 50 feet wide,extending
approximately 1mile between Tustin and Glassell Streets,containing 5.413
acres and located parallel
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NOTE:Negative Declaration 1387-91 has been prepared to
address the potential environmental impacts of the
project.This item was continued from the November 4, 1991
meeting.)Jim Donovan, Assistant Planner, presented the staff report.
In addition to the unique size and shape of the property, the site
is characterized by limited access from extremely narrow
frontage along Tustin and Cambridge Streets. Site access is also
restricted by existing development and land use including the Marlborough
Flood Control Channel at the southern edge of the property and
nursery operations on land beneath the high tension power lines adjacent
to the north. The proposal does not replace any existing use on
the Edison Company's property. Residential tracts that contain homes
on Trenton and Chestnut Streets are separated by a distance of
350 feet including the 30 foot strip that is deeded to the local
Flood Control District, the applicant's property, which is 50 feet wide,
and the 270 foot corridor belonging to the Edison Company. The
project site represents approximately 1/7th of the land contained
between the back fence of the properties located in those residential
tracts.The applicant requests that the unzoned property be classified
as recreation-open space, a request that is consistent with
the General Plan's designation of O-S (open space). The
Orange Municipal Code was amended in 1984 to allow a self-
storage facility to be considered by conditional use
permit under any zoning classification, excluding
single family and duplex-residential,
office-professional, and commercial-professional districts. The applicant's proposal includes
an office within the resident manager's unit, 11 storage
buildings and 52 parking stalls for recreation vehicles and trailers. A
small parking facility is located outside the manager's unit at the eastern end
of the project site where access is taken directly
from Tustin Street. A one-way traffic circulation pattern is provided on the
site plan. The applicant is required by a lease
agreement to accommodate the existing railroad operation of this location where a
one-way gated exit is proposed to the public street.
On site traffic is therefore directed in continuous travel from east to
west, except where a two way driveway is provided between the office
parking lot and Tustin Street, a distance of 50 feet.
There are 36 conditions of approval recommended for this
project.
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where the location of a driveway on Cambridge is described as
situated on the west side of the street and condition 11 where the
corresponding reference is to the east. The driveway is actually
located on the east side of the street. Condition 15 should read, . A
reservation of property shall be established for the future
realignment of electric overhead power lines, subject to review and
approval by the Directors of Public Works and Community
Development, and Southern California Edison Company."
Commissioner Master did not notice any operating hours in the staff
report.
Mr. Donovan said the applicant would respond to the hours of
operation.
The public hearing was opened.
Applicant
Michael Selby, Vice President of Rail Pacific, represented Hyrail
Partners, Ltd., 990 Highland Drive #300, Solano Beach, said they
took a great deal of time to look at this parcel and try to look at
something that would have the least impact on the neighborhood as
it relates to the constraints of the property being 50 feet wide.
They decided on the mini-storages because it had the least
amount of impact. He knows one of the letters of protest mentions the
neat profit to the railroad; however, except for the office and manager'
s unit, those are single story buildings. Because the railroad owns
the land, they're able to build a single story facility rather than a two
or three story facility. They kept the units to one story because
they wanted to be sensitive to the neighbors. They consider
themselves to be good neighbors; they are involved in the communities
with Chamber of Commerce and other activities. They just donated
their truck for a Toys For Tots campaign in San Diego. He
complimented staff on a well done staff
report.Hours of operation are 7:00 a.m. to 7:00 p.m., Monday - Saturday.
Sunday's hours are 10:00 a.m. to 5:00 p.m. Office hours are 9:00 a.m.
to 6:00 p.m.
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Bruce Jordan, Architect, 15375 Barranca Parkway, Irvine, discussed
the particular nature of the land use category. They feel it is very
compatible for the area. It is a very tough site to develop. It's
encumbered by easements, it's 50 feet wide, and it's very long. It
does present itself very well to a mini-storage facility. One
of things they can offer to the neighborhoods is a better
security aspect for the area. The site will have controlled access; will
not be accessible before it opens in the mornings; and will not
be accessible after 7:00 p.m. The controlled access is done by
a computer system. Hyrail Partners operates over one million
square feet of storage and since 1988 has never had a burglary in any
of their facilities because of the security system. The participant
is coached on how the system is used and it precludes any tampering
or loitering on the site. They will also make use of an on-
site resident manager. The manager will police the site, patrol the
drive aisles with golf carts and will be able to call for police
protection if needed. The site does have a buffer -- the Flood Control Channel.
He handed out a site section that shows the 54 foot buffer from
the residential area, prefaced by the Flood Control Channel,
the landscaped area and fencing. The highest point on the single
story buildings is 10 feet, with the exception of the manager's unit. It
is literally screened out from view. If you were to stand in
a resident's back yard, the line of site goes up and over the
storage buildings. The landscape buffer also precludes a view into
the storage facility. The mini-storage facility is categorized
by storage of household goods (60%); business-related goods (
40%). One benefit of the project is the fact that it's the lowest land
use generator of traffic. It has extremely low trip generations. A
facility of this size could expect 40 to 50 entries per day. To ensure
the units are used only for storage, they do not put any
incadescent lighting in them. They use only fluorescent lighting. All hose
bibs have the handles removed. Only the managers can use
them when needed.They're planning to put in motion detectors at the R.V.
location, to be monitored 24 hours a day. They are required
to provide a photometric study of the lighting for the site to ensure
there is no off site glare to the residential neighborhoods. They
will provide a minimum of one foot candle lighting. They feel they will
be a quiet neighbor with very
little
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Commissioner Master asked how they plan to control the R.V. owner
who has his own generator from doing repair work?
Mr. Jordan explained three different ways of control. The manager
will preclude that from happening. The manager team will consist
of a husband and wife and they will be available the entire time of
operation. Their job will be to police the storage area. If a person
is on the site longer than normal, the computer system will trigger
an alarm to notify the manager. The lease documents are very
specific. All occupants are given a sheet of rules and regulations
along with the lease agreement.
Those speaking in opposition
Chris Caines, 1410 E. Chestnut Avenue
Melinda Moore, 1638 N. Cambridge
Leroy Harris, 1339 E. Concord Avenue
Donna Lynn, 1462 Shaffer
Mary Ann Taylor, 327 E. Chestnut Avenue
Jim McNamara, 811 E. Trenton Avenue
James Yadon, 1032 E. Chestnut Avenue
Bruce Baslee, 1125 E. Trenton Avenue
Tom Weltzee, 541 E. Trenton Avenue
Michael Van Raalte, 1330 E. Trenton Avenue
Mrs. Weltzee, 541 E. Trenton Avenue
Gary Lohr, 601 East Trenton Avenue
Tipton Huffman, 401 E. Trenton Avenue
David Gernak, 1136 E. Trenton Avenue
Dick Geary, 1148 E. Van Owen
Robert Delaney, 1220 E. Trenton Avenue
Kathy Bodeau, 801 E. Trenton Avenue
Louie Vodda, 411 E. Trenton Avenue
Their concerns are summarized as follows: Such a commercial
development would be a detriment to the residential area. It will
infringe on the aesthetics of the neighborhood. Issues include the
height of the fence, storing of flammables, rats, transients,
auctions taking place at the facility, increased traffic, lighting
problems, noise pollution, the overhead power lines and the
possibility of underground power lines, the pipelines below the
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surface with high pressure gas, green belt area, decreased property
values. Recreational vehicles were referred to as "rust buckets".
One resident shared stories from his own experience with mini-
storage units which included finding explosives, hazardous waste, a
lion being stored in one unit, and even human ashes. The residents
felt a security system would not prevent break ins. The project will
be an eyesore and will be incompatible with the R-1 area.
The residents were upset the developer already advertised in the
phone book for this mini-storage facility without having prior
approval. A signed petition opposing the project was submitted to
the City.Chairman Bosch noted they have received letters
from Samuel Thickland and Cynthia Lyons Thickland on East Trenton;
Dale and Janice Lewis on North Center
in opposition.Mr. Johnson responded to the audience's question regarding
the Flood Control Channel being covered. The flood channel was turned
over to the County Flood Control District some years ago. He was
not aware of a proposal to cover
the
channel.Rebuttal Mr. Jordan stated they were not proposing to have the
facility open until 10 p.m. on Sunday. Hours of operation on Sunday is from
10 to 5. The ad was placed in the phone book at the owner's
risk; they realize they took a gamble, but needed to get the ad in by
a certain date. He felt there was a lot of misunderstanding
surrounding this land use. The nature of this use will afford additional
site security.There will be people living there 24 hours; it will be
gated access with alarm systems. People don't pay $60 a month to
store "rust buckets", nor do the managers allow it. It's not practical.
The uses are to be regulated by their lease agreement and
the management.Storage of flammables will be very limited. They felt
the noise issue was unfounded. Buildings will be built of
one hour construction and the garage doors are on nylon rollers with
a teflon bearing. They have won a number of awards for their
facilities; they are not ugly, blighted projects. It can be designed in a way
to be compatible with residential neighborhoods and they
are very sensitive to that. The self storage use generates less traffic
than if the property were approved for R-1 use. He did not
believe
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storage use will have any impact on property values. This has been
proven many times not to be the case, if adequate safe guards are
taken such as aesthetics, landscaping and security. On occasion,
there is an auction procedure which is done very quickly. People bid
on an unopened storage unit; it's removed and very few people show
up.
The public hearing was closed.
Chairman Bosch asked if the applicant had reviewed the staff report
and conditions of approval? (Yes.)
Commissioner Cathcart commented the General Plan designates this
land as open space. He realizes the code doesn't say you can't
develop this use in this location, but it doesn't say you can either.
Open space can be defined as lack of hard scape, lack of buildings.
Anytime you remove that resource of open space, then there is
another set of problems to deal with. It is also important to build
habitats for animals and human beings. He would like to see the area
remain as open space. He would hate to see a resource taken away
without knowing what is going to happen in the future.
Commissioner Murphy felt there were three basic points: 1)
recreation-open space zoning; 2) Crime Prevention
report Attachment A); and 3) the issue of public safety. There are
serious concerns about whether a secure environment can be
constructed.The other concern are the rules and criteria set forth for
the conditional use permit -- will this use create any special problems
for the area in which it is located?
Commissioner Scott questioned whether this is really the proper
use?
Commissioner Master said this land on the General Plan is classified
as open space; it is unzoned. The zoning is not consistent with the
General Plan, which should be looked at. He thought the use is most
inappropriate. But he did mention if in the future the power lines
are put underground, there could be two story homes built on this
property.
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Chairman Bosch shared all concerns. In reviewing the environmental
study form, the testimony becomes part of the environmental
documentation. Many of the questions should be answered yes rather
than no. He noted on Paragraph 2, the proposal would result in
increased air emissions, potentially the creation of objectionable
odors and potentially alter the air movement, moisture and
temperature climate within the site area. Relative to the continuity
of open space for biological resources this could lead to
deterioration of the environment in that regard (Paragraph 4 of
report). This use is also an inducement of urban growth and
definitely would generate substantial additional vehicular movement
in Item 10. He suggested to staff that these items be taken into
account relative to further review of the environmental impacts.
It's clearly not an appropriate use for the site. The zoning is
appropriate - recreation open space. Traffic is a major concern.Cambridge
is a very busy street and it always will be. A thorough search
with the City assisting the owner of the property to find a use
compatible with the true definition of that zoning other than a self
storage, industrial or commercial use is needed.Moved
by Commissioner Cathcart, seconded by Commissioner Murphy,to
not accept the findings of the Environmental Review Board and find
Negative Declaration 1387-91 to be inadequate because it
would have a significant impact on the environment and wild life
resources. It is found to be inadequate to the proposed conditional
use; but not to the zoning.
AYES:
US:
Commissioners Bosch, Cathcart, Master, Murphy, Scott
None MOTION CARRIED
Moved by Commissioner Murphy, seconded by Commissioner Cathcart,
to recommend to the City Council to approve Zone Change 1139-91
to update the zoning classification to recreation open space to the
area which is currently
unzoned.
AYES:
t-DES:Commissioners Bosch, Cathcart, Master,
Murphy, Scott None
MOTION
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Moved by Commissioner Cathcart, seconded by Commissioner Murphy,
to recommend to the City Council to deny Conditional Use Permit
1919-91. Staff is directed to report back to the Commission with
a summary report relative to the comments
addressed.
AYES:I'
US:Commissioners Bosch, Cathcart, Master, Murphy,
Scott None MOTION
CARRIED Ms. Wolff explained this item would be referred to the City
Council for a final determination that will be scheduled by the City
Clerk.Notices will be mailed to all of those who received notices for
the Planning Commission
hearing.IN RE: CONTINUED
HEARING TENTATIVE TRACT MAPS 14549 AND 14593, ZONE
CHANGE 1142-91, CONDITIONAL USE
PERMIT 1932-91,ADMINISTRATIVE
ADJUSTMENT 91-
26 SOUTHRIDGE DEVELOPMENT COMPANY Request for approval of Tentative Tract
Map 14549 to allow subdivision of 25.6 acres into 105
single family parcels; Tentative Tract Map 14593 to subdivide 71.3 acres into 11
lots, of which 4 lots are for a phased development of condominium
units and 7 lots are for park or utility purposes; Zone Change
1142-91 to revise the Development Plan text and map
for the South ridge Planned Community Area, and to prezone
approximately 3 acres to PC Planned Community) District;
Conditional Use Permit 1932-91 to allow development of
36 acres with approximately 539 condominium units; and Administrative
Adjustment Permit 91-26 to allow the creation of lots around
cul-de-
sacs, with lot widths less than the minimum
required.t-DTE:The environmental impacts
of this project
have previously been analyzed by certified Environmental Impact Report #854.
This
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Chairman Bosch and Commissioner Cathcart excused themselves
from the meeting due to a potential conflict of interest under the
California Fair Political Practices Act.
Vice-Chairman Scott chaired the
meeting.A staff report was not presented as there was no opposition.
Staff said a follow up addendum to the staff report was sent to
the Commission. One of the issues that has been raised is there
appears to be a certain overlap between two planned community areas.
There is approximately 12 acres that are shown in this tract map,
the southerly condominium tract map, that are encompassed by
the Serrano Heights Specific Plan. Some resolution is needed on
that issue. Staff has received a letter from Frank Elfend,
representing the Woodcrest Development Company, regarding the
issue.Mr. Godlewski commented the property concerned in the overlap
is under Edison's easement and it is going to be maintained
as permanent open space. The question is an administrative one u
who is going to be maintaining it? Staff does not want to count this
area twice (count it as open space in one plan and count it as open
space in another) because it has already been counted as open space in
the Serrano Specific Plan. Open space is not an issue in this
particular plan. The Commission could require the applicant to amend
his Planned Community text to show it is not a part of the
development and if there is any maintenance agreements to be done, they
can resolve those with the property
owner.The public hearing was
opened.
Applicant Bob Mickelson, 328 North Glassell, agent for Southridge, said
staff has covered the application quite well. He quickly reviewed
the exhibits on the wall with the Commission. They have been
working with surrounding owners to acquire additional acreage between
the old alignment of Loma and the the new alignment of Loma, added
to the PC in acreage only. They are not asking for any additional
units over the original 1,000. They are also working with everyone
to come up with a plan that fits into the area better. They've
changed
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from the multi-family duplex on the north side of Via Escola to
all single family detached, and the condominium attached product
would be south of Via Escola, between the existing development and
the new alignment of Loma. They've added a park site which was not
in the original proposal and this is to compensate in part for the
park site that was lost some time ago. With this project they have
the opportunity to provide six various products to the community,
in addition to the existing Belmont. Their project is broken into
4 phases. Staff's concern was the large slopes and if each of
them were a separate tract, each homeowner's association would have
the responsibility to maintain an open space lot and they might do
it differently than the next one. They propose to establish a lighting -
landscape district to maintain the landscaping on the easement
areas/slopes. The overlap area was an oversight on the applicant's
part and he apologized. The mapping and zoning process started
many years ago. For the last few years everyone has been looking at
the maps knowing they were adding area to the project site for
development realizing that Woodcrest had the open space. Mr. Elfend
suggested there be a condition removing the area from South ridge's
PC and remain in theirs. Mr. Mickelson agreed with that suggestion;
that can be done. They selected Architects Orange, the local award
winning architectural firm that specializes in attached housing to
do the condominium project. Colored elevations were available for
review. It's more of a traditional architecture with heavy
statements, heavy wood accents, a nice roof with clay tile, subdued
colors and texture. They have met with the parks staff and have got
a concept park layout; they will be negotiating with staff regarding
park fees or building and putting the park together. They've read the
conditions of approval and agree with them, but ask for one change
on Condition 36. The last statement says, "A and B Streets shall not
include decorative enhancements (i.e., brick colored stamped
concrete)." Staff is concerned about the maintenance and costly
upkeep. He asked to amend that condition to say, .subject to
approval of the Director of Public Works." They believe they can set
aside funds in the maintenance district so they could take on the
added responsibility of repairing that more expensive, decorative
concrete.
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Commissioner Scott asked if the lighting and landscape district
would be for the entire project?
Mr. Mickelson responded yes. The entire project will be assessed as
one district.
Public Inout
Bob Bennyhoff, 10642 Morada Drive, Orange Park Acres, did not
oppose the project, but had questions. On the south side, they've
moved their boundary considerably closer to Anaheim. It was his
understanding they worked out an agreement to keep it as far away
from Anaheim as they could. He wanted to know why. He's curious
about the density and wanted someone to explain the proposed
density. He doesn't like the 5,000 square foot lots.
Ms. Wolff said there was a density range proposed. Although the
General Plan calls for a maximum of 15 units per acre, she pointed
out on the exhibit one area had just above 22 units per acre, another
area had around 9 units per acre -- it averages out to 14.9 acres per unit.
To look at it as a whole, it does comply with the General Plan.The
individual components, however, may not.The
public hearing was closed.Commissioner
Master referred to Page 9, Paragraph 2 regarding the two
foot wide landscaped parkway. He thought staff had problems with
the 2 foot width of these parkways.Ms.
Wolff said the 2 foot parkway, if it would be abutted on either side
by pavement, curb, bend or sidewalk, would be less than adequate.
It's not adequate area to permit planting. However, in this case,
the 2 foot is on the outside of the sidewalk, abutting the front yard.
It's a continuation of the front yard to the sidewalk. You don't end
up with a 2 foot planting strip.Commissioner
Master shared Mr. Bennyhoff's comments relating to the
5,000 square foot lots. They now exist in other developments,but
they were approved because of amenities in the overall plan.He'
s concerned about setting a precedent with 5,000 square foot 12
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lots. He had concerns in 1984-85 and has more of a concern
now about the stacked density along the border of the Southern
California Edison right-of-way and the electro magnetic exposure
of
the power lines.Commissioner Murphy asked if they had an ability
to manage the density as it is being built in the condo or town
home sections of development by way that the weighted average
of the development stays at under 15 units per acre? Is there a way
to condition the project such that some of the lesser density units are
built at the same time as the higher density units based on the fact
that we're evaluating this project on a weighted average when in
fact it could transpire in such a way, based on economic times,
that the dense part of the project was built and the rest of
it left open.Ms. Wolff answered if the Commission would like to list
that as a condition, discussing project phasing and that phasing
shall occur so that density does not exceed the 15 units per acre, that
would be an acceptable condition. Project phasing is
generally market driven,but can be added to the conditions if
the Commission desires.Commissioner Murphy also shares some
concern about R-1-5;however, he had to weigh that
in comparison with the alternatives which are currently available for the builders to
build and that is a much smaller lot
in the form of duplexes.Commissioner Scott was also concerned
about the magnetic field. A lot of information is coming forth on
this subject. Even though there is no concrete evidence on whether it has an effect
or not, it's kind of difficult to
say do not build there.Commissioner Master said the term most often
used and needs to be applied is called prudent avoidance, which
means get away from it as much as you can. Use the density
and open space appropriately --shift development further away
from the transmission lines.Commissioner Scott asked the applicant for
his comments on a proposed condition of a limit of units to 15
per acre through
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Mr. Mickelson responded first to the EMF issue. They have approvals
for multi-family zoning along the south boundary right up to
the Edison easement now. They're not changing that (that's
already approved). On the north side of Via Escola they have current
zoning for multi-family as well, but that's being changed to
single family.They checked with the County EMA because they wanted
to know what they're doing County-wide. All they have is
the full disclosure requirement -- there's no conclusionary evidence.
The most northerly tower in line shown on the plan is one that doesn'
t exist yet and may never. If it does, it's a 60KV and the technology
is there to place that underground. In addition, the lighter
green triangle shown on the map where they have the highest density
product will be open space and the power lines will be shifted southerly
from the bank of towers. In terms of the suggested condition
limiting the units to 15 per acre during phasing, he doesn't think
that is practical. He appreciates the approach and the idea has
merit. The problem is that the project will be driven to some degree
by the market and it may be that the single family detached will
be the first phase and the condos will follow. They worked with
staff very closely and they purposely put one single conditional use
permit on the entire condominium project. So any change to either end
of that project at any time means the entire C.U.P. has to come back
to the Commission for review. He hopes that's enough safe guard
to assure they will not exceed 15 units to the acre. The 5,000 square
foot lots can be justified because they have a planned community.
If they were coming in with a vacant 50 acres asking for 5,000
square foot lots, it would be looked at differently. They currently have
an area that is zoned R-3 that they want to change to
R-1-5 single family detached. If built in the current zone, it
would have a much higher density and it's still tied into the
overall project; they're still limited to their 1,000
units which they cannot exceed.Commissioner Murphy noted the
project has previously
been approved under EIR #854.Ms. Wolff noted there is
one condition that is recommended regarding the text of the planned
community (Page
25)
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Moved by Commissioner Murphy, seconded by Commissioner Scott, to
recommend to the City Council to approve Zone Change 1142-
91,including condition 1 (Page 25 of the staff
report).
AYES:f'.K)
ES:
ABSENT:Commissioners Murphy,
Scott Commissioner
Master Commissioners Bosch, Cathcart MOTION
CARRIED Ms. Wolff noted Tentative Tract Map 14593 is the
condominium project. Based on the information discussed with the
potential overlap and the possibility of adding a condition to take that
portion out of this plan to revise the blue borders of the tract map, if
the Commission recommends approval, she suggested adding a
condition to Tract 14593 that would be identical to condition 9 as written
on Page 26. This is a condition that affects the R-1-5 tract,
but it has to do with the fuel modification plan if fuel
modification is required on property outside the boundaries of the tract (which
would be the case if the Edison easement is no longer a part
of this property).This condition would become #64. Add to the
last sentence, "Any substantial modification to the tentative tract map or
site olan, as approved, to accommodate the approved fuel
modification plan shall require Planning Commission approval, and may
be subject to additional conditions or
modifications of conditions."Moved by Commissioner Murphy, seconded by
Commissioner Scott, to recommend to the City Council to approve
Tentative Tract Maps 14549 and 14593, adding Condition 64 as
previously stated, adding Condition 65 that the blue boundary be revised to reflect
the plan as currently proposed prior to City Council
approval, and amending condition 36 that A and B Streets shall
not include decorative enhancements (i.e. brick, colored
stamped concrete) unless otherwise approved by the Director
of
Public
Works.
AYES:NOES:ABSENT:
Commissioners Murphy,
Scott Commissioner Master Commissioners Bosch,
Cathcart
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Moved by Commissioner Murphy, seconded by Commissioner Scott, to
recommend to the City Council to approve Conditional Use Permit
1932-91 with the noted
conditions.
AYES:tIK)
ES:
ABSENT:Commissioners Murphy,
Scott Commissioner
Master Commissioners Bosch, Cathcart MOTION
CARRIED Moved by Commissioner Murphy, seconded by Commissioner Scott,
to recommend to the City Council to approve
Administrative Adjustment
91-
26.AYES:
tIK)
ES:ABSENT:Commissioners
Murphy, Scott
Commissioner Master Commissioners Bosch, Cathcart
MOTION CARRIED Commissioner Master explained his no votes because he
is concerned about the electro
magnetic fields.Chairman Bosch and Commissioner Cathcart returned to
the meeting.IN RE:
NEW HEARING VARIANCE 1920-91 - McDONALD'
S CORPORATION A request to allow the expansion of an existing fast
food restaurant without increasing the number of parking spaces on
the property.Subject property is located at 1839 West
Chapman Avenue.NOTE: This project is categorically exempt from the
provisions of the California Environmental Quality Act (CEQA)
per State CEQA Guidelines.
Section 15301.The staff report was presented by Ms. Wolff. This
property is located on the north side of Chapman Avenue; it's
between Feldner and Eckhoff Streets. The property is less than one acre in
size and the restaurant itself is approximately 2,500 square feet.
One drive up window exists on the property at this time. This application
is a request to add 345 square feet of floor area to the
building. The additional area will be used primarily for
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approximately 220 square feet) and 125 square feet is to be used
for a second drive up window, which would be a cashier's window
only and a storage room. The variance application is a request for a
waiver of a.M.C. parking standards. In 1988 the City's parking code
was revised and the parking requirement for fast food restaurants
was substantially increased. The requirement increased from 10
spaces per 1,000 square feet to 18 spaces per 1,000 square feet.
While the restaurant had more parking than was required by code
prior to 1988, it became deficient with respect to parking
subsequent to that code amendment. Under the zoning ordinance the
building is considered non-conforming and therefore, it may not
be added to without bringing the entire site up to code. Given the
site size and configuration, additional parking cannot be
provided according to the applicant. Therefore, this request has been made
to allow the expansion without requiring the additional
parking.The public hearing was
opened.
Aoplicant Rhonda Hunt Delbaney, 4370 La Jolla Village Drive, #800,
San Diego,is the real estate representative representing McDonald'
s Corporation. Mr. James Frisbee was also present. He is
the franchisee and operator of the restaurant at 1839 West
Chapman Avenue. They are requesting a variance to allow less than the
code required number of parking. The project includes an upgrading of
the restrooms to meet U.B.C. or State handicapped code
requirements,and to create an extended drive-thru booth to increase the
flow of traffic through the drive-thru. The customer seating
area will not be increased. Item 11 of the staff report stated a C.U.
P. is not required in this case because the proposed
addition is relatively minor and does not significantly change the
restaurant operation or alter circulation patterns. She read Item 12, Page
3 regarding the Environmental Review Board's determination. Item
7 surprised them requiring a dedication for right-of-
way and improvement of that right-of-way for 10
feet. The effects of that future right-of-way on the site
itself would be the elimination of the three southerly parking
stalls. Although the proposed addition will not increase the existing
dining room area, the City requires parking upgrades for
building
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application of the parking code would deprive the property's ability
to improve existing on-site traffic circulation and to comply
with State handicap code requirements. She requested clarification
on Page 4, Item 4 a. -- TSIP fees. Is that associated with street
widening?
Ms. Wolff responded no, this was a development fee based on square
footage of addition. It's not the fees regarding the dedication.
Those speaking in ODDosition
Lois Barke, 2022 Spruce, had a couple of questions, but was not sure
if she opposed the project. The business is extremely busy. The
property owner has had their employees parking on Marks Way. One
of the employees was killed crossing that street. Is there enough
parking spaces? How many more would have been required? Have
there been any studies on how much traffic is going in and out of
McDonald's at the present time? Are they eliminating any parking
spaces to make the addition? She did not know if the addition was
prompted by State mandate. The parking lot can be dangerous.
Chairman Bosch explained the American Disabilities Act is a
National law that was signed by President Bush last year. It
requires upgrades of all new construction that is completed after
June of next year permitted after January, and will eventually
require retrofitting of all structures that are accessible to the
public. Everyone will be forced to comply with this in order to
remain in business.
Rebuttal
Mr. Frisbee stated they were not eliminating any parking spaces.
They are always trying to design as many possible parking spaces as
they can to meet the needs of both the employees and customers. It
is busy; he would even like to see it busier. The only thing they want
to change is to make those restrooms big enough to meet the
handicap codes.
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In conclusion, Ms. Delbaney reiterated their improvements are
merely to increase the convenience of their customers. There is no
anticipated increase in sales or visits due to this improvement. She
again requested the deletion of Condition 3 which has to do with the
dedication for the right-
of-way.The public hearing
was closed.Commissioner Scott asked if the dedication of
the right-of-way would be made and bonded for the improvements, to
be made
at a later date?Mr. Johnson responded the normal
procedure in a mid-block improvement would be a for a bond to
be posted. The most realistic method of improvement would be at some
point in time when the entire width could be
made for systematic improvements. The condition is somewhat flexible
and staff uses some interpretation.Chairman Bosch said the street
improvement is required by City ordinance; it is not within the
purview of the Planning
Commission to modify that condition.Commissioner Murphy agreed the
traffic problem is an issue;however, in examining this particular request
for a variance, it's important to note that these things are
going to contribute to a better situation rather than detract.
With the second window, it should help expedite traffic flow
through the business and help alleviate some of the congestion.
Upgrading the restrooms is
needed and is well received.It was noted for the record this
item was categorically exempt from the provisions of CEQA, per
State CEQA Guidelines, Section 15301.Moved by Commissioner Murphy,
seconded by Commissioner Master to approve Variance 1920-
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with
conditions 1-6 as stated.AYES:
NOES:Commissioners Bosch,
Cathcart,
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IN RE: NEW HEARING
ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT REPORT 1398 - CITY OF ORANGE The
City of Orange has prepared a Draft Environmental Impact Report to
evaluate the environmental impacts of a street improvement project
as follows:1.
Widening of La Veta Avenue between Flower Street and Cambridge
Street, as well as a portion of Glassell Street between La Veta
and Culver Avenues.2.
Widening of Main Street between Town and Country Road and Orangewood
Avenue.3.
Widening of Chapman Avenue between the Orange Freeway (SR-57)
and Main Street.Bernie
Dennis, Traffic Engineer, presented the staff report with the assistance
of Frank Page, Director of Public Works; Dave Allenback,Assistant
Engineer; Chuck Glass, Sr. Civil Engineer; Doug Keys,Transportation
Planner; and Bob VonSchimmelman, Assistant City Engineer.
He gave the background of the projects and EIR's proposed referred
to in their memorandum to the Planning Commission. This represents
key segments of the transportation system improvements necessary
to support a series of land-use and land use density
decisions that have been made, reaffirmed and adopted by the City of
Orange over the past several years. These decisions and actions,
including the width requirements and anticipated traffic demands on
the three project streets were incorporated into the City of Orange
General Plan and Circulation Element as originally adopted by the
City in 1973 and amended in 1989. Exhibits were displayed during
the presentation. Mr. Dennis discussed major land use approvals
affecting the project streets, including the Orange/Santa Ana
Transportation System Improvement Area, Northwest Redevelopment
Project Area, Southwest Orange Redevelopment Project Area, and
Far-East Orange
Area.Sylvia Selaneous, Vice-President of P&D Technologies
and Director of the Environmental Studies Branch of their firm,
presented
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summary of the types of impacts which are associated with the
roadway widenings of the project and discussed the mitigation that
would be applied to reduce those impacts, and discussed the nature
of the impacts associated with the major alternatives to the project
the no project alternative and the alternative without
landscaping improvements, which were considered in the
environmental document. Her highlights included socio-
economic related impacts of the project; displacement of
businesses;disruption effects along the right-of-
way; mitigation measures associated with the property acquisition; loss
of frontage property;utility modifications; residential parcels falling
short of minimum lot size requirements; underground storage
tank removal and contaminated soils; transportation and
circulation issues; provision of sidewalks and turn around areas; adequate
driveway access for emergency vehicles at St. Joseph's Hospital, CHOC
complex and Fire Station 5. There will also be temporary parking
areas to minimize construction related disruption to existing
businesses. With or without the project, there are going to be noise
increases along the roadways. Much of the area now exceeds the noise
standard of the City. The levels of carbon monoxide would
be substantially reduced.Another issue would be the implications of the
project regarding the historical resources in the City and historical
character of Old Towne. She stated the no project alternatives
impacts would limit the City's ability to accommodate projected traffic
volumes and to mitigate its existing and projected traffic
congestion; it would worsen the potential for the intrusion of
through traffic in residential neighborhoods, but would avoid
those adverse socio-economic and land use implications that are
associated with the widening and taking of property. The City would not
be able to implement the streetscape enhancements
proposed in the Redevelopment plans. She touched on each
of the alternatives,noting their impacts. There are going
to be significant environmental impacts associated with this project. There
will be a need for a statement of overriding considerations
that stems from the property takings associated with the project, as
well as those short term impacts associated with the
construction activity. She talked a little about the comments received
on the environmental document, which focused on that segment of La
Veta between Lemon and Cambridge; more specifically, between
Glassell and Shaffer.Responses have been prepared and are contained
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provided to the Commission. They also received a letter relative to
the area north of La Veta on Glassell with similar concerns.
Mr. Dennis continued his presentation with the project alternatives.
A number of requests have been received to develop and evaluate
alternative improvement proposals. Ten alternatives were proposed
and he explained each of them. Action and additions considered
beneficial to the project were discussed as well as project
implementation. Priorities were established based on staff's
opinion or relative priority, funding and project compatibility. It
was staff's recommendation for the Commission to recommend
approval of the project Draft Environmental Impact Report to the
City Council and incorporate additional
recommendationslalternatives for the project per their written
staff report.
Chairman Bosch looked to Mr. Dennis for a very brief, but on-
the-spot explanation of where the action before the Commission is in
the overall
process.Ms. Selaneous stated they have prepared the responses to
comments from the written comments that have been received during
the formal comment period on the document. Before the document
is actually certified and accepted, there are several things that
must take place: The Planning Commission hearing, and the
opportunity for public comment; another hearing before the City Council
and another opportunity for public comment; additionally, in
association with the adoption of an environmental document and
certification,there must be a mitigation monitoring plan that is prepared
to ensure that all the mitigation measures that are in
the environmental document are actually implemented when the
projects are implemented. A formal statement of overriding
considerations and findings of fact must also be adopted by the City Council
in conjunction with their certification of the environmental
document.Chairman Bosch stated in the past when a statement of
overriding considerations have been required, the Planning Commission has
also acted on them. He has not seen a draft of those considerations in
the documentation before
them.
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Ms. Selaneous responded a preliminary draft was given to the City
Attorney last week. They have not yet received the comments on
revisions to that document at this point.
Chairman Bosch said it would be essential for the Commission to
receive in a timely manner such a document as well.
Mr. Dennis anticipated that the Commission would continue to a time
certain this meeting. During that time staff would like to keep the
alternatives available for review and welcome the public's
comments. Then staff will return with recommendations or any
additional input that may have been solicited from the residents.
Certain alternatives have been recommended that are within the
purview of the EIR document. If the City goes beyond that (identify
or recommend an alternative that would cause a non-
mitigatable situation or cause additionalimpacts). they are required to
advise the Planning Commission of both those impacts and what
mitigation would be required to resolve it, if
any.Mr. Page said they are involved in a 7 year Capital
Improvement Program which is brought forth to the Commission on an
annual basis. Some of the phasing of this project is included in
that document because of the planning horizon that is contained in
there.Some steps have already been put in
place.Chairman Bosch explained the process is not only the documents,
but all the testimony received by staff, all future testimony and
written comments which go into the final EIR with whatever
additional alternatives and mitigation measures and recommendations
come forward before anything is adopted. Whereupon there is still
the process of moving ahead with specific design and implementation
of any of the several projects
indicated.Mr. Dennis said the notification process for the Commission
meeting was by mail. There were 1,760 notices mailed to properties
within 300 feet of the project or as determined by staff to be impacted
by the
project.Ms Wolff stated in this case they noticed all properties
contiguous with the project to meet CEQA
requirements.
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Chairman Bosch suggested a continuance of this hearing to a date
certain, giving adequate time for review of the information
presented.
Commissioner Murphy suggested calling a special meeting on January
13, 1992, in between the two regularly scheduled hearings, with
this item as a lone item on the Agenda.
Commissioner Scott suggested to everyone they should try to
contact the Public Works Department and get answers to their
questions and review the exhibits before the next hearing. In
addition to the mailing, that advertisements be taken out in the
local newspapers.
Ms. Wolff stated that was done for this meeting and they can do it
again at the Commission's direction.
Moved by Commissioner Murphy, seconded by Commissioner Master,
to continue Environmental Impact Report 1398 to a special meeting
January 13, 1992 at 7:00 p.m. Prior to the meeting concerned
residents should contact the Public Works Department to have their
questions answered and to review the exhibits and advertisements
of the continued hearing be taken out in the local newspapers.
AYES:
NCES:
Commissioners Bosch, Cathcart, Master, Murphy, Scott
None MOTION CARRIED
IN RE: MISCELLANEOUS ITEMS
Ms. Wolff said staff has received an application regarding a
processing of a conditional use permit for a billiard club on North
Santiago Boulevard. The Orange Municipal Code gives the Planning
Commission the authority to determine what uses are similar to
those listed in the code, but which are not specifically called out. A
billiard club is not specifically mentioned in the code. The
Commission is being asked to make a determination as to whether to
accept the application as being consistent with other conditionally
permitted uses in the zone or whether to not accept the application,
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saying it is substantially different than other conditionally
permitted uses.
Commissioner Master said if it is to be considered as an alternative
use, he did not have a problem with it. But he wants to review it if
it is a specific use. It's not an approval; it's rather review of such
an application for that particular zoning.
Chairman Bosch thought the permitted uses include amusement
devices which means coin operated machines of various types. He
guessed this was a non-coin operated machine, but still
conditional use permit findings are really essential to be sure the property
is adequate, circulation and traffic are taken into consideration,
there is no detrimental impact on the neighbors, the General Plan
or Specific Plan for the area, etc., required by law. He concurs in
the appropriate location within the zone there may be a location
or more, not speaking to the specific one indicated. Generally
speaking,it doesn't appear to be a use that should be prohibited
without
consideration.It was the Commission's consensus that it would be prudent
to accept for consideration conditional use permits in the CTR
district zone applications for billiard palors, given the state law and
city ordinance requirements for demonstration and facts and findings
on conditional use
permits.A suggestion was received from Mr. McGee that the
Planning Commission consider scheduling a workshop in the near future
with two topics: 1) discuss the need for and strategy to accomplish
a specific plan for development for the portion of Katella
Avenue,between the Santa Ana River and Batavia Street. This relates to
the joint City Council/Planning Commission study session held
recently relative to high rise buildings study in the Northwest
Redevelopment Area; 2) have an update on requirements and status of CEQA
and impacts and actions that could benefit the Commission'
s consideration of environmental impact reports in the
future.The Commission set Monday, January 27, 1992 at 5:30 p.m. for
a study session to discuss the above
topics.
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Staff made available to the Commission a draft handout for
residents describing the duties of the Planning Commission, the
route of proposed development projects and other actions to the
Commission and the rights and privileges of City residents with
reg ard to that.
A letter was received from Dale Rahn thanking the Commission for
their consideration and wisdom in dealing with the Old Towne issues
on the last Agenda.
IN RE: ADJOURNMENT
Moved by Commissioner Scott, seconded by Commissioner Murphy, to
adjourn the meeting at 11 :40 p.m.
AYES:
NOES:
Commissioners Bosch, Cathcart, Master, Murphy, Scott
None MOTION CARRIED
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