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MINUTES Plcmning
Commission
Cit ~
of Orange
September 20, 1999
Monday - 7:00
p.m,PRESENT:ABSENT:STAFF PF:
ESENT:
Commissioners
Bosch,
Carlton, Smith
Commissioners Pruett, Romero j
f"'f E-
S r:"l ~~Vern Jones, Planning
Manager/Secretary,Mary Binning, Assistant
City Attorney,Roger Hohnbaum, Assistant
City Engineer, and Sue Devlin, Recording
Secretary Y}~~:";:f ~ 1,,
1 J -IN RE:CONSENT CALENDAR
1. Approval of the
Minutes from the Regular Meeting of September 8, 1999 Moved by Commissioner Smith
and seconded by Commissioner Bosch, to approve the Minutl3s of September 8, 1999.AYES:
NOES:ABSTAINED:ABSENT:
Commissioners
Bosch,
Smith
None
Commissioner Carlton Commissioners
Pruett,
Romero MOTION
CARRIED IN RE:CONTINUED HEARING
2. CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT
2297-99 - SAEED SAMMY MEDAL! (INTERNATIONAL HOUSE OF PANCAKES)A request to
allow
the on-site sale of beer and wine in conjunction with the operation of an existing restaurant. The site
is located at 707 North Tustin Street. (This item was continued from the August 16,1999 meeting.)NOTE:
This project
is categorically exempt from the provisions of the California Environmental Quality Act per State
CEQA Guidelines Section 15303.There was no
opposition to this project. The full presentation of the staff report was waived, and the pLblic hearing was
opened.M31issa Hernandez, represented
Saeed Sammy Medali, 707 North Tustin Street. Staff made several field inspections relative to
the alleged parking problems; however, they did not find parking to be a problElm by th'9 employees
or customers of the restaurant. All of the employees park in IHOP's parking lot.The public hearing
was closed.Although Commissioner Carlton
was absent from the previous hearing, she has read all of the material and is in a
position to vote on this item.Commissioner Smith stated
this is an application for beer and wine supplemental to the existing menu. It appears to her
that the parking lot is meeting the needs of the business, and it is under parked during the day time hours.
The staff reports says the majority of the cars that were parked on Mayfair belong to the 1
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residents who live in the neighborhood. IHOP is changing its image and is hoping to be more of an alii-
day restaurant. She did not have a problem with approving the conditional use
permit.It was noted the project is categorically exempt from CEQA
review.
MOTION Moved by Commissioner Smith and seconded by Commissioner Carlton, to approve Conditional
Use Pel"mit 2297-99 with conditions 1 through 13 as listed in staff's memorandum dated September
7, 1999,finding that the proposed use will not bring deterioration to the neighborhood; that it is based
on sound principles of land use; it is not creating special problems; and the permit is granted to preserve
the general welfare, not the individual welfare of any
particular
applicant.
AYES:
NOES:ABSENT:Commissioners Bosch,
Carlton,
Smith None Commissioners Pruett, Romero
MOTIONCARRIEDNEWHEARING
IN RE:3. VARIANCE 2070-99 - CHRIS AND
NICOLE MICHAELIS A proposal to allow the removal of an existing one-car garage and the construction of a 1 1/
2 story, two-car garage, with a 408 sq. ft. studio apartment. The applicant requests a variance to
reduce the required rear yard setback from the required 10 feet to 5 feet to protect an 80 year old avocado tree
in the back yard area. The site is located at 288 North Center Street and is in the Orange
Old Towne Historic District.NOTE:Negative Declaration 1611-99 was prepared to evaluate
the
environmental impacts of this project.Mr Jones stated the Commission received two letters: one dated September
8 from Tom and Terry Matuzak, who were opposed to the project, and another letter dated
September 14 from Lorna Greenhill and Mark Benkendorf at 280 North Center Street, the property
immediately south of the project.Commissioner Smith noted this property is the only one on the
block that is zoned R-3.Mr Jones said that was correct. On both sides of Palm Avenue for a
couple of blocks,
the end propmties are, zoned R-3.Commissioner Smith asked how many units could be built on
that
site if the original dwelling was demolished?Mr. Jones responded it would be 2+ units, which would be rounded down
to 2 units
since they don't qualify for
three.Th'3 public hearing was opened.6Q.plicants Chris and Nicole Michaelis, 288 North Center Street,
are seeking permission to build a new structure, which would enhance the neighborhood and also
comply with the historic standards of Old Towne. The existing garage is in disrepair and needs to
be removed, The new proposal is compatible with the neighborhood and will tie in with the existing structure at the
front of the property. They plan to use the second story unit for storage, and perhaps in the future, use it
as living space for their children or,as a rental unit. The Design Review Committee
gave their project a favorable recommendation. He explained the existing structure has a 16 foot setback. They have been
told they must move it back four more feet to comply with the setback requirements. They are
asking
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st'ucture further to the west (rear lot). They do not plan to rent the second story unit now, but if thElY do,
they want their plans approved so that they can move forward with them at some point in the future. The
garage doors, as depicted in the renderings, appear to be the roll up metal doors. But they intend to use
sliding doors or wood doors, to keep it within the historical context of Old Towne.
Chairman Bosch said the garage doors look like sliding bi-pass doors. He also wants to see
somElthing other than the metal roll-up doors. He was struck by the owners' proposal to preserve the
existing historic avocado tree, It appears they could place the building on the lot without requesting the variance
for the sE,tback from the west property line, but to do so, would destroy the tree. One of the key
elements is gEttting the open space to be maximized, but in this case there is a historical artifact which is
very important to the neighborhood. The second part of his concern, is relative to the size of the accessory
unit. The square footage is less than the minimum. He wanted to know if that was for both the entry portion
on the ground floor plus the second level, or whether those had been added together, The
smaller bathroom downstairs would not be part of the unit, but the entry, entry closet and stairway would be part
of the square footage of the unit. He thought maybe they were within the parameters for the square
footage and if that is the case, a variance would not be required for
the area.MI". Jones said the analysis in the staff report indicates that the apartment's entrance and storage ar,
ea on thl3 first floor is approximately 75 square feet, and that there is 368 square feet with the bath,
kitchen and living area on the second floor. The 443 square foot is a combination of the downstairs
and upstairs.Mr. Michaelis said they designed the structure to minimize the impact of it. They are asking for
the variance to go further back on the property for their own personal needs, but they tried to design the
addition in such a way to minimize the impact of height, which is impacting the square footage. They like
the old avocado tree and it also softens the effect of
the garage.Chairman Bosch did not have difficulty with the finding that there is a hardship relative to the
avocado tree because it is an integral part of maintaining the historic streetscape along Palm Avenue.
Also, the structure on the other side of the property line, although it is pre-existing, doesn't
conform and that provides a hardship as well in terms of the beneficial use of that part of their lot. He
is having trouble finding justification for the finding on the square footage of the unit being less, other than
by choice, than that required by code. He appreciates the well designed building, It keeps the scale
down, keeps the ridge line down and does all those things necessary to help tie in to the design of the front,
but still that doesn't necessarily state that the applicants couldn't do that with a slightly larger
building. The ordinance requirement is in the way, which the Commission legally must make a finding
for the variance.Commissioner Smith proposed one finding that by keeping the structure to a smaller size is
that it keeps thH property in scale to the front building, which makes it compatible with the rhythm and
flow of the property itself. In looking at the proposal from the front, she wondered if it shouldn't have
some kind of porch treatment at the front door. If this were added, would it count into
the square footage?Mr. Jones replied no, The exterior space does not count in
the square
footage.Public Comments:Lorna Greenhill, 280 North Center, spoke in favor of the project. She is delighted the building
is not as large as it could be. The project is designed nicely and it's
not too massive.Frank Ambers, 264 North Center, said it makes sense for the proposed addition to be smaller.
It sets a good precedent for other projects in Old Towne and it is a good example
for the community.The public
hearing was closed.Commissioner Carlton wanted to know if there were different setback regulations. It looks
like the setback from the north edge of the sidewalk to the garage is
about
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Mr. Jones explained the setback for the structure is 20 feet from the property line to accommodate a 10
foot landscaped setback and a parking space that needs to be provided on the site, which must sit within
that 10 foot landscaped area. There needs to be a 10x20 parking space when a second unit is creatEld on
thEl property. The protection of the tree drives both variances because as long as they are encroaGhing
into the rear side yard, even by making the structure larger, they will be extending into the rear yard area
for a larger area.
Commissioner Smith thought this kind of project should have a variance. It has a smaller original structure
at the front, and the applicant is trying to keep the second unit in scale with the existing house. ThElre is
thEl potential of demolishing the existing structure, as well as the dilapidated garage, and building a brand
new, much bigger unit. This particular applicant is to be congratulated for building across the street from a
lar'~e University. The applicants are willing to build with wood siding, wood windows and garage doors to
mElet the Old Towne architectural features, and to preserve the old tree. She sees the 2 story garage,
1 -1/2 feet off the property line, which has been there for at least 30 years, as a hardship. She thought
thElY could condition the project so that there would be no occupancy of the storage area until the parking
space is added.
Chairman Bosch said the tree is very significant and relaxation of the westerly setback because of the! tree
and also because the immediate neighbor has a privilege with virtually no setback whatsoever to a full 2-
story living unit over a garage on the adjacent property. There is a significantly greater percentage of open
space on this lot with much less driveway involved than there would be if this were a mid-bloclk
lot.Because of the impacts of the structure on the lot immediately adjacent, and because of the net3d
to mitigate impacts and preserve the existing tree, the Commission could justify the findings for
the
variances.
MOTION Moved by Commissioner Bosch and seconded by Commissioner Smith, to approve Negative
Declaration 1611-99 and finds that there is no substantial evidence that the project will have a significant impact
011 the environment or
wildlife
resources.
AYES:
NOES:ABSENT:Commissioners Bosch,
Carlton,
Smith None Commissioners Pruett, Romero
MOTION
CARRIED MOTION Moved by Commissioner Bosch and seconded by Commissioner Carlton, to approve
Variance 2070-99 with conditions 1 through 6, modifying condition 3: "The design of
the replacement structure garage/apartment) materials, colors and finishes be compatible with the
existing Bungalow. Wood windows, doors and wood garage doors shall be utilized. And that overhead garage doors
shall not be allowed." Add condition 7, "Prior to issuance of a building permit, the applicant shall
submit and receive approval from the Design Review Committee of a landscape plan for the proposed
total development of thE! project as presented." Add condition 8, "This approval shall allow development of the
new garagE! and 1 1 /2 story space for utilization of storage without implementation of the additional
outside parking space;however, prior to any completion or conversion of the second level space to an
accessory second unit,the remainder of the DRC approved landscape plan, including outside parking
space, must be implemented concurrently with the build out and prior to occupancy of the accessory
un it." The Commission finds that because of special circumstances applicable to the subject
property, including size,shape, topography, location and surroundings, that the presence of a historic 80+ year
old avocado tree in the center of the developable area of the site restricts available area for replacement
construction of a garage without damaging the avocado tree and that the landscape resources of significant
valueto the mc.intenance of the historical context of the neighborhood, the strict application of
the zoning ordinance would deprive the subject property of privileges enjoyed by other properties in the
vicinity and other identical zone classification. The variance is subject to conditions which will assure that
the authOl'ized adjustment, in this case, looking at both the reduction in both findings, the reduction
of
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setback due to the avocado tree and also due to the presence on the west property line of a 2..story
dwelling unit over a garage immediately within the normal setback area, which deprives the subject
property a full and beneficial utilization of the property. The conditions assure that the adjustments shall
not constitute a grant of special privilege inconsistent with the limitations upon other properties in the
vicinity and zone in which subject project is located.
AVES:
NOES:
ABSENT:
Commissioners Bosch, Carlton, Smith
None
Commissioners Pruett, Romero MOTION CARRIED
IN RE:MISCELLANEOUS
4. REVIEW OF ZONING CRITERIA TO ADDRESS OVERSIZE GARAGES IN SINGLE FAMILY ZONES
The City Council has asked that the Planning Commission study building mass and volume criteria in
single family residential zones as it relates to oversize garages.
Mr. Jones stated the City Council had asked that the Planning Commission study building mass and
volume criteria in single family residential zones. This issue was raised because of the recent construction
of an oversized garage and large garage door to accommodate a truck and trailer in a single family
neighborhood.
Staff has reviewed the general issue of building mass in the R-1 zones. Floor area ratios were
established in 1995 as part of the zoning code update to attempt to adequately control bulk and mass issues. To
a large extent, the City does not see many projects with that as an issue, Staff also discussed with a
few other cities in the County how they attempt to address these kind of issues in single family zones.
Ilrvine developed as a planned community. Their CC&R's do not allow anything greater than the
standard garages. Santa Ana and Anaheim have dealt with these issues somewhat differently over the years
and have specific language in their ordinances to address
them.Staff recommends using the Minor Site Plan Review to look at the projects proposing the
oversize garages and large garage doors, above the standard 7 foot height. The Commission may want to look
at changing the height of the garage doors to 8 feet, because they are also somewhat typical and would
not have an adverse impact. Mr. Jones thought maybe only one or two proposals for the oversized
garages come through a
year.Chairman Bosch thought this review should apply to the R-2 zones as well; not just the R-
1 zones. He dicn't mind setting the height a little higher because the size of the vehicles over the
years
has changed.MOTION Moved by Commissioner Bosch and seconded by Commissioner Smith, to direct staff
to prepam the neGessary ordinance amendment, with clarification that it would apply to all residential
zones and to structures with a door height of over 8 feet, and set
a
public
hearing,
AYES:NOES:ABSENT:Commissioners
Bosch,
Carlton, Smith None Commissioners Pruett,
Romero
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IN RE:ADJOURNMENT
Moved by Commissioner Carlton and seconded by Commissioner Bosch, to adjourn to a joint study
session with the City Council on Wednesday, September 29, 1999 at 6:00 p.m. in the Weimer Room to
discuss the East Orange General Plan, The meeting adjourned at 8:15 p.m.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSENT:
Commissioners Bosch, Carlton, Smith
None
Commissioners Pruett, Romero MOTION CARRIED
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