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MINUTES
Planning Commission
City of Orange
September 14,1998
Monday - 7:00 p.m.PRESENT:
Commissioners Bosch, Carlton, Romero, Smith ABSENT:
Commissioner Pruett STAFF
PRESENT:
John Godlewski, Senior Planner,Mary
Binning, Assistant City Attorney,Roger
Hohnbaum, Assistant City Engineer, and Sue
Devlin, Recording Secretary IN
RE: NEW HEARINGS 1.
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 2234-98 - VAN'S INC.A
proposal to allow an indoor/outdoor skateboard park and an amusement arcade. The site is located at The
Block at Orange, east of The City Drive and north of the 22 Freeway.NOTE:
This project is categorically exempt from the provisions of the California Environmental Quality Act
per State CEQA Guidelines Section 15305.Chris
Carnes, Associate Planner, reported the proposal before the Commission is for an amusement arcade
and a skateboard park. Both types of requests require a conditional use permit. The proposed facility
is part of The Block at Orange by the Mills Corporation. The proposal includes a 43,000 square foot facility
with 36,000 square feet on the ground floor, which would include a retail store, locker rooms and storage.
The majority of the area is going to be improved with a skateboard park. Approximately 5,400 square
feet of the skateboard park will be outside the facility. The second floor will have approximately 6,
500 square feet in which an amusement arcade will be located consisting of about 1,000 square feet.The
Staff Review Committee has reviewed this proposal and did not express any concerns. The Police Department,
at the request of the applicant, has revised several of the conditions of approval in order to allow
the Police Department a little more flexibility in developing security standards and monitoring standards
for the arcade. Condition 9 was modified and condition 11 was added.The
public hearing was opened.ADDlicant.
Mark Green. 3510 Torrance Blvd.. Torrance. represented Van's. They hope to start interior improvements
soon. They have reviewed the conditions of approval and concur with them. Van's has their
own security staff, and they anticipate a close working relationship with the Police Department. The ru1es
of the mall will be such that kids will not be allowed to skateboard in the parking lots and common areas
of the shopping center. This is their first venture into a skateboard/amusement type facility. There will
be three (3) skating levels: advanced, intermediate and a pee wee course. The pee wee area is for younger
children, it will be segregated and supervised by staff at all times. There will be a $50 annual membership
fee, which will reduce the fees for skating. To skate two (2) hours, it will cost $8.00 for members;
non-members will pay $11.00 for a 2-hour session. In-line skating will be allowed, but
they do not have the capability for
roller hockey.Commissioner Smith wanted to know if the staff will be trained in first aid and/or are there
requirements for safety equipment for
the
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Mr. Green explained that the skaters are required to wear safety equipment, helmets and pads, at all times.
He was also certain that Van's would be training their staff in first aid.
Commissioner Smith suggested that first aid training be part of the conditions of approval.
The public hearing was closed.
Chairman Bosch asked at what point does the City have a boundary that they might want to set relative to
making a statement regarding a potential area of liability vs. what the responsibility of the owner is.
Ms. Binning stated the Planning Commission's jurisdiction does cover the health, safety and welfare of the
public as it relates to the land use that is being requested. Crafting a condition might take some expertise
in knowing just how to word the condition to make sure of the requirements.
Commissioner Smith was excited to see this type of facility. However, she wanted to add a condition to
require basic first aid training for the staff. There are Red Cross courses available in both CPR and first aid
treatment. Many companies are required by State law to have their employees trained. All staff members
within six (6) months of hire, need to have a card and training in both CPR and first aid for children and
adults.
The Commission discussed enforcement of CPR and first aid training of Van's employees. There was
concern for the opening day and it was felt a certain number of employees needed to be trained before six
months.
The public hearing was re-opened to discuss this concern with the
applicant.Mr. Green anticipated there would at least be one senior manager to be on duty at all times, if not two,
and stated the adult senior manager(s) would be trained in CPR and first aid for opening day. The
fifteen employees work throughout the entire store .- not just the skateboard park.
Leticia Hickman. 3510 Torrance Blvd.. Torrance, is Mr. Green's business partner. One of the issues she
has dealt with in the past is the issue of directing the care. Her concern is for the "over confidence" of
people trained in CPR and first aid. She requested that their safety and health experts work with the City
to look at the best way to help injured people.
The public hearing was closed.
Commissioner Carlton suggested a condition that Van's submit a safety plan subject to the approval by
staff.
After much discussion, the Commission concurred that all skating floor attendants shall be trained within
six (6) months of hire, including all managers in basic first aid and CPR training for both adults and children.
This does not include retail staff. On opening day at least three (3) staff people should have CPR training
and first aid. The applicant shall also develop written policies and procedures for safety, first aid and
emergency care, including the procedures for full staff training and identification of a safety officer (adult
senior manager) who must be on duty at all times to direct care within the policies and procedures. The
policies and procedures and training methodology shall be presented to, and approved by, the applicant's
risk management and insurance company.
It was noted the project is categorically exempt from CEQA review.
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Moved by Commissioner Smith, seconded by Commissioner Bosch, to approve Conditional Use Permit
2234-98 - Van's Inc. with the revised conditions of approval per the September 14, 1998 memorandum.
Condition 9 has been modified and condition 11 has been added. Condition 12 is also added: "All skating
floor attendants shall be trained within six (6) months of hire, including all managers in basic first aid and
CPR training for both adults and children. Classes are provided through the Red Cross or other private
agencies and certification is awarded. This does not include retail staff. On opening day at least three (3)
staff people should have CPR training and first aid. The applicant shall also develop written policies and
procedures for safety, first aid and emergency care, including the procedures for full staff training and
identification of a safety officer (adult senior manager) who must be on duty at all times to direct care within
the policies and procedures. The pOlicies and procedures and training methodology shall be presented
to, and approved by, the applicant's risk management and insurance company." Approval is based on the
findings that the conditional use permit is granted upon sound principles of land use and in response to
services required by the community. The granting of the CUP will not cause deterioration of bordering
land uses or create special problems for the area. It has been considered in relationship to its effect on the
community and the neighborhood plans for the area. It is subject to the conditions necessary to preserve
the general welfare, not the individual welfare of any particular applicant.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSENT:
Commissioners Bosch, Carlton, Romero, Smith
None
Commissioner Pruett MOTION CARRIED
2. CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 2235-98 - CAFE TU TU TANGO
A proposal to sell alcoholic beverages and provide live entertainment in conjunction with the operation of
a restaurant. The site is located at The Block at Orange, east of The City Drive and north of the 22
Freeway.
NOTE:This project is categorically exempt from the provisions of the California Environmental Quality
Act per State CEQA Guidelines Section 15303.
Chris Carnes, Associate Planner, presented an application requesting a CUP to allow alcoholic sales at the
site and allow the State's Alcoholic Beverage Control (ABC) to issue a type "48" license. The proposed
facility is located within the entry way of The Block at Orange. It is approximately 9,200 square feet in size,
which includes 2,000 square feet of outdoor dining area. Because the applicant has areas restricted to
just the sale of alcoholic beverages, the Police Department and City ordinance requires an Alcoholic
Management Program, which the applicant has submitted to the Police Department. And, the Police
Department has approved their plan.
The pUblic hearing was opened.
Aoolicant. Bradlev Weiser. 3250 Marv Street. Coconut. Ronda, was excited in bringing their project to the
City of Orange. He explained their live entertainment. The main theme of the restaurant is that of an
artists' loft and they have 2-4 working artists in the restaurant every day. They also have
spontaneous entertainment of tango dancers and opera singers to enhance the evening's
activities.Chairman Bosch has not seen such a large bar outdoors with the outdoor seating area opening onto
the main entry way to the theaters. He was concerned about the exposure of alcoholic beverages in
close proximity to the main access to the
theaters.Mr. Weiser said one of the key points to remember is that they are a restaurant. The bar will give people
a place to wait for restaurant seating. They control the environment anddon't let it get out of hand. They
go through a significant amount of training with all of their team members, and have several managers on
the floor throughout the evening. Their indoor/outdoor bar has almost become a signature of
their restaurants, and it is not something they have a problem with. If they need to get their own security
to
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control the situation, they will. The patio enclosure is about 4 feet high with controlled access areas for fire
services.
Commissioner Smith asked if the applicant would be adverse to changing the hours of operation to 11 :00
a.m. rather than 11:30 a.m. The applicant did not have a problem with the change in hours.
The public hearing was closed.
Commissioner Smith is excited about this restaurant because it sounds like a lot of fun. She thought the
condition for the hours of operation should be revised to reflect the same hours of operation for all
restaurants.
It was noted the project is categorically exempt from CEOA review.
Moved by Commissioner Romero, seconded by Commissioner Smith, to approve Conditional Use Permit
2235-98 - Cafe Tu Tu Tango, with conditions 1-13 listed in the staff report, with the revision of condition
6,changing the hours of operation to 11:00 a.m. rather than 11:30 a.m. The Commission finds that the
CUP is granted upon sound principles of land use and in response to services required by the community.
It will not cause deterioration of bordering land uses or create special problems for the area in which it
is located. It is considered in relationship to its effect on the community and neighborhood plans for the
area in which the site is located. And, it is subject to those conditions necessary to preserve the
general welfare, not the individual welfare of any particular
applicant.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSENT:Commissioners Bosch, Carlton, Romero,
Smith
None Commissioner Pruett MOTION
CARRIED Chairman Bosch stated he believed the conditions of approval that the Police Department helped to
craft into the conditional use permit relative to the control of service of alcoholic beverages, helps assure
him that there will be adequate review in addition to the quality of operation that the applicant has had at
other locations. There are required policies that will be in place for the applicant in running the operation, as
well as for review by Planning and the Police
Department.3. CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 2236-98 - ALCATRAZ BREWING
COMPANY A proposal to sell alcoholic beverages and brew beer for on-site consumption in conjunction
with the operation of a restaurant. The site is located at The Block at Orange, east of The City Drive and
north of the
22 Freeway.NOTE:This project is categorically exempt from the provisions of the California
Environmental Ouality Act per State CEOA Guidelines
Section 15303.Chris Carnes, Associate Planner, reported the applicant is proposing the construction of
a new restaurantlbeer brewery within "The Block at Orange" and is requesting the on-site
sale of alcoholic beverages, which includes all types of beer, wine and hard liquors. The applicant is
including a beer brewery within the facility. This is a new license, type "75" to allow the on-site
production of beer. The proposal is 12,600 square feet in size and includes approximately 2,000 square
feet of outdoor dining area. The proposed site plan includes areas that are specifically for
the consumption of alcoholic beverages. The applicant has submitted, and the Police Department
has approved,
an Alcoholic Management Program.The
public
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Aoolicant. Michael Merriman. Director of Beveraae Ooerations for the California Cafe. 5725 Paradise Drive
450. Corte Madera. was looking forward to bringing their restaurantlbrewery to Orange. It will be their fifth
brewery restaurant in their stable of 24 restaurants. He explained how they came up with the name of
Alcatraz Brewing Company.
Commissioner Romero asked if the applicant would mind changing the hours of operation to 11:00 a.m.
Mr. Merriman did not object to the change.
The public hearing was closed.
It was noted the project is categorically exempt from CEOA review.
Moved by Commissioner Carlton, seconded by Commissioner Romero, to approve Conditional Use
Permit 2236-98 - Alcatraz Brewing Company, with conditions 1-13 listed in the staff report,
revising condition 6 by changing the hours of operation to 11:00 a.m. rather than 11 :30 a.m. Per O.M.C.
Section 17.10.030.F, the CUP is granted upon sound principles of land use and in response to services
required by the community. It will not cause deterioration of bordering land uses or create special problems for
the area in which it is located. It has been considered in relationship to its effect on the community
and neighborhood plans for the area in which the site is located. And, these conditions are made subject
to those conditions necessary to preserve the general welfare, not the individual welfare of any
particular
applicant.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSENT:Commissioners Bosch, Carlton, Romero,
Smith
None Commissioner Pruett MOTION
CARRIED 4. CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 2240-98 - CORNER
BAKERY A proposal to sell beer and wine for on-site consumption in conjunction with the operation of
a restaurant.The site is located at "The Block at Orange" west of The City Drive between Chapman Avenue
and the SR-22 (
Garden Grove) Freeway.NOTE:This project is categorically exempt from the provisions of the
California Environmental Ouality Act per State CEOA
Guidelines Section 15303.Chris Carnes, Associate Planner, said the proposal before the Commission is a request
to allow the service of beer and wine for on-site consumption in conjunction with the operation of
a restaurant. This is a minor accessory service to the customers of the restaurant. The proposal does
not include any separate areas serving beer and wine so the applicant was not required to have
an Alcoholic Management Plan.The recommended conditions of approval include that the site not have any
designated lounge or bar areas. The proposed facility is approximately 8,100 square feet of which 2,000
square feet is outdoor dining. The proposed site is located within the food park area of
The Block at Orange.The
public hearing was opened.Aoolicant. Carl Baber. 3333 Bristol Street #1622. Costa Mesa, is the General
Manger for Corner Bakery.They have roughly 40 Corner Bakeries across the United States. Corner Bakery is more
than just a bakery in itself. They have 35 different varieties of breads, along with sandwiches, pizzas, pastas, soups ---
it's a casual atmosphere with counter service. Alcohol sales are a very small portion of
their business (probably 3% to 5%). They have Alcohol Management training for all
of their managers.Commissioner Smith explained that the other restaurants cannot serve alcohol until 11 :00
a.m. Corner Bakery's hour of 9:00 a.m. seems to be a little early. She wondered if the applicant
would
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the hour to 11:00 a.m. before being allowed to serve alcohol. Mr. Baber did not have a problem with the
change in hours, nor did he mind staying open later, to be consistent with the other businesses in the
area.
The public hearing was closed.
It was noted the project is categorically exempt from CEOA review.
Moved by Commissioner Bosch, seconded by Commissioner Carlton, to approve Conditional Use Permit
2240-98 - Comer Bakery subject to conditions 1-14 as indicated in the staff report, with the revision
to condition 6 to set the earliest hour for sales, service and consumption of alcoholic beverages at 11:
00 a.m., to be consistent with the other businesses. This approval is based upon findings in
concurrence with O.M.C. Section 17.10.030.F whereas the CUP should be granted upon sound principles of land
use and in response to services required by the community. It does not cause deterioration of bordering
land uses or create special problems for the area in which it is located. It has been considered in relationship
to its effect on the community and neighborhood plans for its area. The CUP is granted subject to
those conditions necessary to preserve the general welfare, not the individual welfare of any particular
applicant.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSENT:Commissioners Bosch, Carlton, Romero,
Smith
None Commissioner Pruett MOTION
CARRIED IN RE:
ADJOURNMENT Moved by Commissioner Romero, seconded by Commissioner Carlton, to adjourn to a regular meeting
on September 21, 1998. The meeting adjourned at 8:15 p.
m.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSENT:Commissioners Bosch, Carlton, Romero,
Smith
None Commissioner Pruett MOTION
CARRIED
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