HomeMy WebLinkAbout08-05-1991 PC MinutesPLANNING COMMISSION MINUTf;:S
August 5, 1991
Monday - 7:00 p.m.City
of Orange Orange,
California PRESENT:
ABSENT:
STAFF
PRESENT:
IN
RE:IN
RE:Commissioners
Bosch, Cathcart, Master, Murphy, Scott None
Joan
Wolff, Sr. Planner and Commission Secretary;John
Godlewski, Administrator of Current Planning;Jack
McGee, Director of Community Development;Bob
Herrick, Assistant City Attorney;Bob
VonSchimmelman, Assistant City Engineer; and Sue
Devlin, Recording Secretary PLEDGE
OF ALLEGIANCE MINUTES
OF JULY 15, 1991 Moved
by Commissioner Master, seconded by Commissioner Scott,
to approve the Minutes of July 15, 1991 as recorded.AYES:
NOES:
Commissioners
Bosch, Cathcart, Master, Murphy, Scott None
MOTION CARRIED CONTINUED
HEARINGS TENTATIVE
PARCEL MAP 90-346 - NAGUI MANKARUSE A
request to allow two
condominiums.Sou
th Foley Place.the
conversion of a duplex apartment into Subject
property is addressed 256-258
NOTE:This project
provisions of
Act (CEQA) per
is
the
State
categorically exempt from the
California Environmental Quality
CEQA Guidelines, Section 15301.
This item has been continued from the July 15, 1991 Planning
Commission Meeting.
A staff report was not presented and the public hearing was
opened.
Applicant
Nagui Mankaruse, 4051 Ondine Circle, Huntington Beach, wrote
a memo to the Planning Commission addressing the concerns of
the Commission at the previous hearing regarding the repair
and maintenance of the building. It has no common area
except the common wall in between. He provided photos to
show what the building looks like. He also sketched a plan
showing a two-car garage and driveway in front of each
Planning Commission Minutes
August 5, 1991 - Page 2 the
common wall and then the fence. Repairs should be a common
interest of both owners. Off-street parking concerns
were also raised, but he does not feel that will change as
the conversion will still have homeowners in a residential
use. There are two types of insurance available: fire
insurance and homeowners insurance. It should not change
the insurance requirement for the building. He stated he's
complying with all requirements and the CC&R's will be
drafted upon approval.
Commissioner Murphy addressed the .common area. issue. He
believes the roof is common to the two structures.
Mr. Mankaruse said only the seam under the wall is common.
If a leak occurs, the roof can be repaired separately.
Commissioner Cathcart asked who owns the tree in the middle
of the property (between the two garages)?
Mr. Mankaruse admitted the tree is common. He pointed out
it is the owner's responsibility to make their own repairs.
The public hearing was closed.
Chairman Bosch had a couple of concerns. There's a lot of
ambiguity in the area of condominium conversions. He feels
they would end up with two 3,000 square foot lots. This
might set a precedent for all of Old Towne. He's certain
other applicants would request lot splits throughout Old
Towne as a result of this.
Commissioner Cathcart felt it was the Commission's task to
not increase problems within the City, but help solve them.
This case presents not only the problem of splitting the
R-2-6 zone into 3,000 square foot lots, but a problem
if two people disagree, how do you come to a consensus?
The roof is seen as a major problem, as well as
electrical, the cooling system and even the tree. There is a
problem with an association of
two people.Commissioner Scott said when you divide a 6,000
square foot lot into two 3,000 square foot homes, it's difficult
to get along with neighbors when problems occur.
This would circumvent the City'
s
zoning.Commissioner be
too
many request.
Master also
problems in had concerns and felt
there would the future with this
type
of Chairman
set
up Bosch
to be said the key point is that this
building was a duplex type of ownership. It's
Planning Commission Minutes
August 5, 1991 - Page 3 type
of housing for the small investor or for someone to buy and
occupy one unit while renting the other one out. It's still
an important type of housing stock that needs to be maintained.
Moved
by Chairman Bosch, seconded by Commissioner Murphy, to recommend
to the City Council to deny Tentative Parcel Map 90-
346 for the reasons that the conversion to a condominium
with individual ownership of the dwelling units would set a
precedent that could be applied throughout the City of
Orange, and in particular, the Old Towne area, causing a
reduction in the size of parcels in the defacto single
family zones. Also, that it would potentially reduce the
provision of a singular type of housing in the City of
Orange: to wit, the duplex for small investment or ownership
and rental. There is great question that an effective
homeowners' association could be maintained with two owners,
given the disputes that may invariably arise.
AYES:
NOES:
Commissioners Bosch, Cathcart, Master, Murphy, Scott
None MOTION CARRIED
Ms. Wolff explained this item will be heard by the City
Council. The Commission's action is a recommendation and it
will be forwarded to the Council for a final decision.
IN RE:MISCELLANEOUS
MITIGATION MONITORING PROGRAM - CITY OF ORANGE:A
proposed monitoring program to verify implementation of mitigation
measures associated with Mitigated Negative Declarations
and Environmental Impact Reports, in accordance with
the California Environmental Quality Act.Vern
Jones, Community Planning Manager, presented the draft Mitigation
Monitoring Program. Staff has been working on this
over the last six months. It's an important document that
will enable staff to more effectively carry out its charge
of applying and enforcing the California Environmental
Quality Act. A couple of study sessions have been
held to review the document. The document does incorporate
comments received from both study sessions. Two letters
were received from the Irvine Company, which are included
in the Commission's packets. Staff did respond to those
letters. They also received another letter of request from
the Irvine Company on Friday. Staff has met with the Irvine
Company to review their letter of request. He stated they
have met and agreed upon a couple of modifications to the
document, which will make it more effective. Those modifications
are as follows:
Planning Commission Minutes
August 5, 1991 - Page 4 Page
3 Definition of Project -- add subsection (b).Project refers
to that action documented in the project description
of the final E.I.R. or mitigated Negative
Declaration, establishing the mitigationmeasurebeingmonitored."This references
a project for which a mitigation measure is a part
of that action.Page II
Very last sentence of page of last paragraph __pr ior
to the retention of a consultant...." Amend sentence to
read: "Prior to the retention of a consultant, the
City shall make reasonable attempts to consultwiththeprojectproponent, and upon request, shall
provide a copy of the proposed scope of workandestimatedcosts."with this
mOdification, staff has given the project proponent more
ability to ensure that they will have some input into
the decision, but have protected the City's ability to
carry out the mitigation measures.The Commission
discussed the question, "What is considered reasonable". It'
s a word no one is comfortable with, but there is
some basis in law. Mr. Herrick said the reasonably necessary costs
language was taken from the Government Code.Reasonable attempts"
was inserted in the document as opposed to
saying "the City shall consult with", in order to protect the
City in circumstances in which the developer is not around
to consult with. It allows the City to move forward.Mr.
Jones
said there were only two modifications to the document and
everyone was in agreement with these.Mr. Herrick
clarified there were three documents for this process: (I)
Mitigation Monitoring Program Manual; (2)Ordinance; and (
3) Resolution (in draft form).The public
hearing was opened.Steve Ross,
550 Newport Center Drive, Newport Beach,represented The
Irvine Company. He commended staff for their hard
work on this program. Everyone is proceeding into uncharteredterritorywiththechargefromtheStatelegiSlatureof
implementing recent legislation. Their August 2
letter contain a handful of proposed modifications to the
program, referring to the Manual. With the two refinements, they
believe that the Mitigation Monitoring Program issatiSfactoryandtheydosupportafavorablerecommendation.
Planning Commission Minutes
August 5, 1991 - Page 5 Alice
Clark, 205 North Pine, did not understand what Mitigation
Monitoring meant.Mr.
Jones explained that State law requires that for any discretionaryprojectthattheenvironmentalimpactsofthatproject
be identified. Where there is potential for significant
adverse impacts, mitigation measures are to be identifiedtoreduceoreliminatethatimpact. This is new State
legislation that says not only do you have to require mitigationmeasures, you now have to monitor them.The
public hearing was closed.Moved
by Commissioner Scott, seconded by Commissioner Bosch,to
recommend to the City Council to adopt the Mitigation MonitoringProgramManualbyResolution, subject to the modifications
presentedl and to adopt an Ordinance mandating compliancewiththeMitigationMonitoringProgramManual.AYES:
NOES:
Commissioners
Bosch, Cathcart, Master, Murphy, Scott None
MOTION CARRIED IN
RE:OTHER BUSINESS Chairman
Bosch reported the City Council, in following up on AB
939, regarding solid waste, is forming a special committeetoaddresstheneeds/goals for the City of Orange.
They have asked that a Planning Commissioner be a part
of this committee.Moved
by Chairman Bosch, seconded by Commissioner Master, to recommend
to the Ci ty Council the appointment of Commissioner
Scott to fill that position.AYES:
NOES:
Commissioners
Bosch, Cathcart, Master, Murphy, Scott None
MOTION CARRIED Commissioner
Cathcart mentioned the landscape standards and Landscape
Ordinance will be delivered to the Commission by August23, and will be on the Agenda for the meeting of September
4.IN
RE:ADJOURNMENT Moved
by Commissioner Scott, seconded by Commissioner Murphy toadjournat7:45 p.m.AYES:
NOES:
Commissioners
Bosch, Cathcart, Master, Murphy, Scott None
MOTION CARRIED sld