HomeMy WebLinkAbout06-03-1991 PC MinutesPLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES
City of Orange June 3, 1991
Orange, California Monday - 7:00 p.m.
PRESENT: Commissioners Bosch, Cathcart, Master, Murphy, Scott
ABSENT: None
STAFF
PRESENT: Joan Wolff, Sr. Planner and Commission Secretary;
John Godlewski, Administrator of Current Planning;
Jack McGee, Director of Community Development;
Bob Herrick, Assistant City Attorney;
Gary Johnson, City Engineer; and
Sue Devlin, Recording Secretary
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
IN RE: MINUTES OF MAY 6, 1991
Moved by Commissioner Master, seconded by Commissioner
Murphy, to approve the Minutes of May 6, 1991 as recorded.
AYES: Commissioners Bosch, Cathcart, Master, Murphy, Scott
NOES: None MOTION CARRIED
IN RE: ITEMS TO BE CONTINUED
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 1907-91 - DIANE GLENN:
A request to allow for a board and care facility housing
developmentally disabled persons within an existing 4-unit
apartment building. Subject property is addressed 340 West
Fairway Drive.
NOTE: This project is categorically exempt from the
provisions of the California Environmental Quality
Act (CEQA) per State CEQA Guidelines, Section 15303.
Planning staff received a phone call from the applicant
requesting a continuance to July 15, 1991.
Moved by Commissioner Scott, seconded by Commissioner Master
to continue Conditional Use Permit 1907-91 to July 15, 1991.
AYES: Commissioners Bosch, Cathcart, Master, Murphy, Scott
NOES: None MOTION
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June 3, 1991 - Page 2
IN RE: NEW HEARINGS
TENTATIVE TRACT MAP 14510, CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 1908-91,
NEGATIVE DECLARATION 1382-91 - CLOW AND CLOW, INC.:
A request for a tentative tract map to subdivide a portion
of the 2.15 acre Grace Baptist Church site into four
residential parcels, and a conditional use permit to create
three lots without direct access to public streets and to
modify the church's original conditional use permit.
NOTE: Negative Declaration 1382-91 has been prepared to
assess the environmental impacts of this project.
Ms. Wolff presented the full staff report. The zoning on
this parcel is R-1-8 (Single Family Residential, Minimum Lot
Size 8,000 square feet). The Church is currently operating
under Conditional Use Permit 261 issued in 1962. The
Planning Commission, approximately six months ago, heard and
approved a subsequent Conditional Use Permit on this
property, permitting the operation of a Montessori School
within the existing classroom building. The property now
contains two buildings -- a sanctuary and a classroom with
associated parking. The original C.U.P. was approved for
three buildings and a greater build out of the site. The
tract map is to subdivide the lot into six parcels. The
Church will remain on a parcel just over an acre in size.
The other half will be divided into four residential lots,
8,000 or more square feet, and one lot for a private
driveway serving these four residences. Project
implementation will involve the removal of the existing
landscaping and a portion of the paved parking area; a
reduction of the existing parking lot from 155 spaces to 78
spaces; and the creation of four residential lots plus the
driveway, which will be 32 feet wide. The driveway lot will
also contain a block wall separating the Church from the
residences, landscaped strips and a six foot wide sidewalk
on the east side of the drive. The driveway will provide a
circulation link between Taft and the northerly portion of
the Church's parking lot. The Church's parking reduction
can be achieved in accordance with the p arking code
requirements because the site was not built out as
originally planned and approved.
The public hearing was opened.
Applicant
John Clow, 210 East Ponderosa Lane, Anaheim, requested the
four residential lots because it will be a viable project in
the City. The lots are 80 x 100 square feet. Family unit
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June 3, 1991 - Page 3
homes will be built with four bedrooms. They are working
with the Church as they are a small denomination (36 church
members) . The Church does not have the donations to meet
their needs.
Those speaking in f avor
Glenn Schlegel, 3633 West Ball Road #109, Anaheim, is the
Chairman of the Board for the Church. They are going
through a financial stress and felt it was a good thing for
them to sell the property and to have the homes built, which
would be an asset to the Church as far as the development of
the land. They would rather see homes than apartments.
They are using the finances that come from the sale of the
property to clear up the existing loans that have been put
on to the property years ago.
Bal Schlegel, real estate broker, 2122 East Lincoln Avenue,
Anaheim, addressed some issues in the staff report. On Page
9, Item 20, relates to the maintenance responsibilities for
the private drive and landscaping. They are in compliance
with the condition. In the sale agreement of the subject
project, the Church has agreed to continue the normal
maintenance of the private street way that will be going
in. The homeowners will only be responsible for any change
or damage to the street beyond what would be considered as
normal wear and tear. Their attorney will be drafting the
maintenance agreement and if the City Attorney would like to
review the agreement, they would welcome that. In
conjunction with this, Item 12 on Page 4 addresses the
establishing of an Association. There is a private
agreement being established so they would like the
Association to be eliminated as a requirement. On Page 3,
Item D, addresses the fence separating the Church and
private driveway. They requested the fence be eliminated as
a requirement. While the fence would separate the two lots,
but the fence would tend to create a "boxed in" feeling.
The second issue is the potential security risks of a large
block wall fence. They felt with the proper landscaping the
same effect could be accomplished and yet keep an open and
aesthetically appealing project.
Ms. Wolff responded it was not until last Thursday the
applicant called staff and told them they did not want a
homeowner's association. In talking with the City Attorney,
he felt the condition as written, was adequate to address
the situation without necessarily forming a homeowner's
association.
Mr. Herrick said the condition itself refers to the drafting
and recording of CC&R's. CC&R's don't necessarily have to
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June 3, 1991 - Page 4
create a homeowner's association. They can use other
devices to provide for maintenance. The actual condition,
as written, does not require them to establish a homeowner's
association for that purpose. Their office would be happy
to look at the agreement and determine whether or not they
think the interest of the City and having the maintenance
taken care of are properly provided for in those agreements.
Any private agreement would have to be in a recordable form
so that buyers, in the future, would take the property with
the knowledge of that obligation. It would be of record for
the real property. CC&R's would appear to be the most
appropriate way to do that.
Ms. Wolff said the block wall was requested of the applicant
by the Environmental Review Board. In reviewing the
project, the Board felt that in order to create a quality
living environment and to give those four residences some
privacy, a block wall would be appropriate.
Those speaking in opposition
Enrique Cary, 7025 Sundance Circle, owns the apartment
building directly east of the Church. He's not in
opposition to the project, bu t has two areas of concern.
They have been relatively good neighbors with the previous
pastors, as well as the current pastor and tried to work out
problems as neighbors should. He questioned the subdivision
of a small portion of the entire lot. Is it really in the
best interest of everyone involved? Would the Church be
better off to maybe sell the entire property, which could
then be developed in like kind. Then they could take their
assets to another location which could serve their needs. If
the project is going to be approved the way it is planned,
currently there is an existing concrete block wall on the
western portion of his property that borders the eastern
portion of the Church property. The wall was built 25 years
ago when the original project was put in. He has paid to
repair it on three different occasions over the seven years
he has owned the property. The construction of the wall is
such that it does not have any rebar; it is dry stacked
block cemented together. If four single family residences
are built adjoining that wall, sooner or later there will be
structural failures. He requested a new wall be constructed
as part of the development. The elevation of his property
is three to four feet higher than the pad. Those owners may
be better off if a higher wall is built to afford them some
privacy.
Larry Bonin, 332 South Olive, wondered if the City has
considered buying this property for park use or some kind of
community center?
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June 3, 1991 - Page 5
Mr. Herrick clarified for the record that any proposals for
City acquisition of real property should not be considered
by the Commission with respect to any particular development
proposal.
RPhi~t4-al
Mr. Clow's concern with the staff report was the six foot
wide sidewalk on the east side of the private drive. He
wondered if the Commission would rescind that from six feet
to four feet so the homeowners would have two more feet of
landscaped area. The Church has been at this location for
30 years and for them to move would be a hardship. They
will be grading per the grading plans. Their pad will be
higher than the pad next door. If anything, it will
reinforce the existing block wall. They will work with the
owner next door and if the fence is damaged during
construction, they will take care of it. Existing trees are
along the fence on the neighbor's side, next to the
apartments.
In response to the question regarding the six foot sidewalk,
Mr. Johnson responded that was their standard width for a
sidewalk. Within the six feet, they would be able to
accommodate fire hydrants, street signs, lights, and
providing minimum handicap clearances under state law. A
four foot sidewalk would not provide for those items.
The public hearing was closed.
Commissioner Cathcart was concerned with the increased run
off of surplus water. As shown on the tract map, the water
is going to be funneled north and west through the property
at the northwest corner. The present condition is not going
to be adequate for the amount of run off.
Mr. Johnson said staff looked at that issue. He felt a
condition should be added that required the engineer who was
creating the tract to look at the hydrology and hydraulics
of the site, and to provide the calculations t.o determine if
the amount of water has increased; thus provide increased
drainage facilities to handle that problem.
Commissioner Scott felt the block wall was needed because
the Church's activity. He had a concern about the grading
of the lots. If it's a garden type wall, they cannot fill
against it. A retaining wall would be required.
Mr. Johnson thought the applicant's intent was to get by
e~ without building retaining walls, even though there may be
some existing elevations that are higher in the future.
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June 3, 1991 - Page 6
It's his guess they will cut it down to stay within the one
foot "magic" dimension and not build a retaining wall. The
water drains from east to west, and it would go over the top
of the curb on the east side. Nuisance water will
continually sheet across the street and that deteriorates
the pavement. The new owners could expect to have higher
than normal maintenance requirements.
Moved by Chairman Bosch, seconded by Commissioner Master, to
recommend to the City Council to accept the findings of the
Environmental Review Board regarding Negative Declaration
1382-91 in that it is in conformance with the requirements
of the California Environmental Quality Act and they have
found that this project will not have a significant adverse
impact on the environment or wildlife resources.
AYES: Commissioners Bosch, Cathcart, Master, Murphy, Scott
NOES: None MOTION CARRIED
Moved by Commissioner Scott, seconded by Commissioner
Master, to recommend to the City Council to approve
Tentative Tract Map 14510 and Conditional Use Permit 1908-91
subject to Conditions 1-26, and with the addition of
Condition 27 requesting a hydrology and drainage study be
provided with the appropriate mitigation measures.
AYES: Commissioners Bosch, Cathcart, Master, Murphy, Scott
NOES: None MOTION CARRIED
IN RE: MISCELLANEOUS
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 1400 CONSISTENCY FINDING - TISHMAN
EXECUTIVE TOWERS:
A request to consider a parking reduction in conjunction
with construction of Phase II of this project. A
determination is needed as to whether this reduction will
result in substantial conformance with Conditional Use
Permit 1400.
Applicant
Behrouze Ehdaie, The Vee Collaborative, 917 Glenneyre Street
a, Laguna Beach, architect, said one of the reasons for
this reduction request is that in early 1985 when they
applied for the C.U.P., at that time 4 cars per 1,000 was
the requirement. They built the first phase and provided
about 1200 cars. The project is 95$ leased and they are
using approximately 950 cars. They have counted cars at
different times of the day and cannot count more than 900
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June 3, 1991 - Page 7
cars. If leased at 100, not more than 1,000 cars would be
parking at this location. Based on their studies in the
area, the market is around 3.3 cars per 1,000.
Moved by Commissioner Scott, seconded by Commissioner
Cathcart, that the Planning Commission found the parking
reduction proposed is acceptable and that the modified
project substantially conforms to the project approval under
Conditional Use Permit 1400.
AYES: Commissioners Bosch, Cathcart, Master, Murphy, Scott
NOES: None MOTION CARRIED
IN RE: MISCELLANEOUS
CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM - CITY OF ORANGE:
A determination as to consistency between the City's 7 Year
Capital Improvement Program and the General Plan.
Scott Morgan briefed the Commission by stating in their
study session they reviewed the proposed 7 Year Capital
Improvement Program (May 20 and June 3, 1991). As indicated
by Jere Murphy at the May 20 study session, all proposed
projects conformed to the General Plan with the exception of
projects highlighted in the document in a gray background.
For these projects, amendments to the General Plan will be
requested prior to making those specific siting decisions.
It was recommended these projects still be included in the
Capital Improvement Program, but no funds be expended prior
to completing the appropriate General Plan amendments.
The gray shaded areas include:
the new Main Library;
Northeast Branch Library;
Fire Station #3;
new Fire Department headquarters;
Fire Station #6;
Fire Station #10 and equipment associated with it;
Knoll Hills; and
Knoll Hills Park
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June 3, 1991 - Page 8
Moved by Commissioner Scott, seconded by Commissioner
Cathcart, to accept the recommendations as per the staff
report: (1) The Commission finds that the Capital
Improvement Program projects are consistent with the General
Plan, with the exception of projects highlighted with a gray
background; and (2) The Commission recommends the City
Council direct that no funds be expended on the projects
highlighted in gray prior to amending the General Plan to
ensure consistency.
AYES: Commissioners Bosch, Cathcart, Master, Murphy, Scott
NOES: None MOTION CARRIED
IN RE: OTHER ITEMS
Commissioner Cathcart
correspondence from Carole
forwarded to staff and the
care of.
received a phone call and
Walters regarding D.R.B. It was
appropriate actions will be taken
IN RE: ADJOURNMENT
Moved by Commissioner Scott, seconded by Commissioner
Murphy, to adjourn to a study session Wednesday, June 5,
1991 at 5:30 p.m. in the Weimer Room to discuss the
mitigation monitoring program and the earthquake fault zone
at Newport and Chapman (Negative Declaration 1384-91).
AYES: Commissioners Bosch, Cathcart, Master, Murphy, Scott
NOES: None MOTION CARRIED
The meeting adjourned at 7:45 p.m.
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