HomeMy WebLinkAbout03-19-1990 PC MinutesPLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES
City of Orange March 19, 1990
Orange, California Monday - 7:00 p.m.
PRESENT: Commissioners Bosch, Greek, Hart, Master, Scott
ABSENT: None
STAFF
PRESENT: Joan Wolff, Sr. Planner and Commission Secretary;
John Godlewski, Administrator of Current Planning;
Jack McGee, Director of Community Development;
Bob Herrick, Assistant City Attorney;
Gary Johnson, City Engineer; and
Sue Devlin, Recording Secretary
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
IN RE: MINUTES OF MARCH 5, 1990
Moved by Commissioner Master, seconded by Commissioner
Bosch, that the Minutes of March 5, 1990 be approved as
recorded.
AYES: Commissioners Bosch,
NOES: None
ABSTAINED: Commissioner Greek
IN RE: NEW HEARINGS
Hart, Master, Scott
MOTION CARRIED
ORDINANCE AMENDMENT 2-90 - CITY OF ORANGE:
A proposed revision and comprehensive update of those
portions of the Zoning Ordinance pertaining to the
Residential Districts.
NOTE: Negative Declaration 1335 has been prepared for this
project.
Mr. Godlewski stated the Commissioners received a memo from
staff, as well as from Community Foothill Builders,
expressing their concern with the current state of the
Ordinance. They are not comfortable at this time to go
forward with a decision and requested a continuance to a
study session in order to allow further discussion. Staff
requested a date of April 4, 1990.
Moved by Commissioner Greek, seconded by Commissioner
Master, that the Planning Commission continue Ordinance
Amendment 2-90 to April 4, 1990, 5:00 p.m. , for a study
session.
Planning Commission Minutes
March 19, 1990 - Page 2
IN RE: NEW HEARINGS
ZONE CHANGE 1123 - CITY OF ORANGE:
A proposal to pre-zone the unincorporated single family
properties on Cumberland Road, between Canal Street and
Shaffer Street, in preparation for annexation to the City of
Orange. Current zoning is County E-4-80, and proposed
zoning is City R-1-10.
NOTE: The projected annexation is categorically exempt
from the provisions of the California Environmental
Quality Act (CEQA) per State CEQA guidelines Section
15319.
Mary Ann Chamberlain, Senior Planner, Advanced Planning,
presented the staff report. The site is comprised of 20
acres and has approximately 62 homes which front on
Cumberland Road and one that fronts on Shaffer Street. A
few years ago some of the residents came to the City and
requested sewer service because in the County they are on
septic tanks and do not have sewer services. It is the
City's policy to annex people who acquire sewer service from
the City of Orange. The first step in the process is to
pre-zone the area from the County E-4-80 zoning to the City
R-1-10. The County zoning that they were developed under
has an 80 foot frontage and minimum sized lots of 10,000
square feet. Under the City's R-1-10 they would also have
those exact same requirements. The County code is much more
restrictive in the setbacks. Annexation would take place
after pre-zoning.
The public hearing was opened.
Those speaking in favor:
Kathleen Tobkin, 16551 Cumberland Road, felt this was an
appropriate proposed zone designation for Cumberland Road.
It preserves the single family densities and it restricts
the building sites to 10,000 square f eet so there is no
possibility of disrupting the neighborhood with higher
density apartment buildings. They need sewer service at
their home and it appears the only way they can get the
service is to annex into the City of Orange.
Henry Tobkin, 16551 Cumberland Road, understands this is a
pre-zone step which is necessary before getting sewer
service on Cumberland Road. He is for the proposed zone
change and feels it is appropriate.
Michael Fisher, 16521 Cumberland Road, is very much for the
pre-zoning situation. Many of the older septic tanks in the
area have reached their limits of effectiveness. Some of
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March 19, 1990 - Page 3
them definitely need to be replaced, including theirs. The
ground in the area, over the last 30 years, has reached a
saturation point. He would like to take steps towards a
sewer system. The current septic tank system is an outdated
system.
Those speaking in opposition:
Chester Hill, 16352 Cumberland Road, is definitely against
annexation. They have lived on Cumberland over 20 years and
has no trouble with their septic tank.
Robert Rnepp, 16302 Cumberland Road, thought there was a
problem of misrepresentation or misinterpretation in the way
this has been handled. This was initiated to be a special
septic tank district by the County when it was first
established. At the meetings that were held they were given
information regarding a septic tank district, but now they
are faced with annexation. Letters were sent out about an
election and hearing. The people realize the City Council
can elect and bring them into the City without any input
because they are an island. They have not heard of an
election or have not received any formal notification of an
election or hearing about a sewer district. Annexation was
never mentioned at the meetings. Many people are retired
and are adamantly against annexation. The assessments of
being incorporated into the City will have a financial
effect on them. He would like to know what the next steps
are in this procedure. The issue is sanitation, not
annexation.
Ms. Chamberlain responded the sewer district was proposed
when they held the two public meetings at Shaffer Park. At
that time, the people were told there would be an annexation
process that would have to take place. The formation of the
sewer district would probably happen in approximately two
months. The annexation process will begin when the City
decides to file the annexation with the Local Agency
Formation Commission. After the Local Agency Formation
Commission takes action on the annexation, then there would
be a chance for protest. However, before that comes about,
the first step in the process is to pre-zone the area.
Commissioner Greek was looking at a letter dated December 5,
1989. The first sentence asks for annexation into the City
of Orange. He would like to stay away from the annexation
because it is a separate issue the Commission cannot respond
to. He felt the letters explained what the procedures were.
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March 19, 1990 - Page 4
P'Is. Chamberlain said letters were mailed to every property
owner on Cumberland Road. If the audience cared to join her
after the meeting, she would be happy to answer their
questions in the Weimer Room.
Mr. Johnson st
the City would
district cannot
jurisdiction of
annexation are
looking at the
a later date.
ated a sewer district was the method by which
finance the costs of providing sewers. A
be formed until the property is within the
the City of Orange. The district and
two separate issues. The City is currently
zoning; the annexation will be considered at
Commissioner Greek said the people speaking in opposition
have not spoken to the zoning issue.
Commissioner Bosch thought perhaps those people in
opposition could address the zoning to see if they had any
factual concerns for any differences between the City and
County zoning.
William Snyder, 16341 Cumberland Road, said there were home s
on the street with fences higher than the City of Orange's
requirements; they exceed the four foot limit. Some people
have more pets than are allowed in the City of Orange. How
will these people be affected? He is basically against the
annexation.
Daniel Souder, 16392 Cumberland Road, raised objection to
the zoning because he doesn't believe the people have been
thoroughly informed about this hearing. He was under the
impression it was not only for zoning, but annexation as
well. The people were not prepared to come and speak on
zoning alone. If they are re-zoned, will the City be
responsible for adding street lights, giving them the proper
curbs, and all the other amenities that the City gives other
people in the City. He asked these questions at the
previous meetings and was told no. What benefits do they
receive if re-zoned and later annexed into the City? They
will be paying a great deal more money because they have to
pay for the installation of the sewer line.
Darlene Bossen, 16422 Cumberland Road, was in favor of the
pre-zoning and wants the annexation.
The public hearing was closed.
Commissioner Greek commented he has not heard anyone opposed
to the pre-zoning. The Commission will need to form their
own opinion that if this property were annexed to the City
of Orange, does it conform to the R-1-10 zoning? The only
concern heard was regarding dogs and fences.
Planning Commission Minutes
March 19, 1990 - Page 5
Ms. Chamberlain said normally when an area is annexed into a
city, they accept it as is. If someone had 5 dogs and the
City only allowed 3, then they would be able to keep those
dogs until such time they got down to what the City allowed.
The County of Orange has some requirements on animals and
fences. Their fences are no more restrictive than the
City's. The County of Orange is looking at their animal
code to update i t.
Moved by Commissioner Master, seconded by Commissioner
Bosch, that the Planning Commission recommends the City
Council to approve Pre-Zone Change 1123-90 changing the
zoning from the County E-4-80' to the City R-1-10 (Single
Family Residential, minimum 10,000 square foot lots).
AYES: Commissioners Bosch, Greek, Hart, Master, Scott
NOES: None MOTION CARRIED
Chairman Hart asked when this would go before the City
Council?
Ms. Chamberlain was not certain of a City Council hearin3
date. When the people were notified of the Commission's
hearing, they were sent copies of the County's and City's
zoning codes. Again, when they notice for the City Council
meeting, she will do the same thing.
IN RE: N EW HEARINGS
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 1810-90 - TOM L. STULL/VINTAGE
INTERNATIONAL NETWORK:
A proposed Conditional Use Permit to allow the sale of
alcoholic beverages in sealed containers in an industrial
zone. Subject property is located at 1735 and 1737 West
Ratella Avenue.
NOTE: This project is categorically exempt from the
provisions of the California Environmental Quality
Act (CEQA) per State CEQA Guidelines, Section 15301.
There was no staff report and the public hearing was opened.
Applicant
Kurt Gehring, Vintage Network, stated the application was
for a retail license on the premise. The main objection
seemed to be that it would be a liquor store with a lot of
heavy traffic, but that is not the case. The location is
for order processing and shipping out via U.P.S. Walk-in
sales amount to 1~ to 5~. They intend to only dispense
wine.
Planning Commission Minutes
March 19, 1990 - Page 6
The public hearing was closed.
Moved by Commissioner Scott, seconded by Commissioner
Master, that the Planning Commission recommends to the City
Council to approve Conditional Use Permit 1810-90 subject to
the conditions as listed.
AYES: Commissioners Bosch, Greek, Hart, Master, Scott
NOES: None MOTION CARRIED
IN RE: NEW HEARINGS
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 1819-90 - SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA EDISON
COMPANY/VILLAGE NURSERIES:
A proposed Conditional Use Permit application to allow the
construction of a 6,720 square foot office building and a
3,200 square foot maintenance building in the M-1 zone, on
property located on the south side of Taft Avenue,
approximately 900 feet east of Tustin Street, adjacent to
and west of the Newport Freeway.
NOTE: Negative Declaration 1334-90 has been prepared for
this project.
A staff report was not presented and the public hearing was
opened.
Applicant
Tom House, 875 West Central Avenue, Brea, gave a brief
history of Village Nurseries. They have chosen to locate
their headquarters for their office staff at the proposed
site. This land is Edison land; it is power line land. He
doubts that it will be used for anything else in the future.
They have a 5 year lease, but it is a 60-day type lease. If
Edison decides to do something else with the land, they have
the ability to revoke their lease. For them to do a great
number of improvements to the property doesn't make a lot of
sense. He questioned the conditions in the staff report
including setbacks, a modular (temporary) office building,
adding five feet to the approach, paving, and lighting
requirements. There will be no access to the public at
night and the property will be locked up. Edison is rather
strict in what they allow them to do with the property.
Also, the TSIP fees are quite high and he asked for some
relief on those.
Chairman Hart thought the applicant should have asked for a
variance. He personally had a problem with their request
for relief from the code requirements.
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March 19, 1990 - Page 7
Commissioner Greek was more concerned about the appearance
that the project will have from the freeway, plus the
violation of all the codes. He thought the applicant should
withdraw his request. He's not sure this is even the right
use for the property.
Dale Rahn, 350 North Harwood and also Village Nurseries,
thought as far as the parking lot they would prefer to come
in under a temporary use. He understands there are code
requirements, bu t they would like to have some relief from
some of those code requirements and to be under a temporary
parking lot code situation. The difference is the use of
material in paving that parking lot. Under temporary uses,
they could get by with a recycled asphaltic pavement. It
mends together. If under a permanent parking space, it
would be a solid surface (asphalt or cement).
Commissioner Greek stated the City's standards for a
temporary parking lot are very stringent and are required.
Mr. Rahn believes their business is a good use for the
property because they are using the property as an
enhancement. They are bringing some aesthetic appearance to
that site, which is more or less a dirt lot.
Commissioner Master asked what their intended hours of
operation would be?
Mr. Rahn responded their normal hours of operation are from
7:00 a.m. to 4:30 p.m. They do run into certain odd
situations of loading at night, but that would not be done
at the Orange site. Their dispatch yard is in Huntington
Beach. Any loading or unloading of material here is on a
short interim basis. They are a 280 acre nursery and this
site is only 13 acres. It is only a small portion of their
overall production area. There is no retail or public
access. They do not sell to the public from the site. The
office they intend to build will house the accounting
process of the company.
Chairman Hart wanted Mr. Rahn to understand the Commission's
position on this request.
Mr. Rahn said the Conditional Use Permit was required by the
City because they were going from M-1; to put in an office
building into a M-1 zone, they needed to have a C.U.P. He
supposed they could have included a Variance along with the
C.U.P.
Commissioner Bosch said it appears the conditions that have
been questioned are reminders of other parts of the City
Ordinances that would be in effect whether the applicant was
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March 19, 1990 - Page 8
here for a Conditional Use Permit or not. Since it is a
temporary use, they apply with the C.U.P. There is no clear
indication that the applicant will be at the site for five
years. He felt they had the wrong application because there
is no Variance application nor demonstration of hardship
from the Ordinance. The Commission cannot waive the
Ordinance.
Commissioner Master asked if a representative from Southern
California Edison were present?
Mr. Rahn responded no. He had a letter from Edison dated
January 25, 1990 saying that they do not object to Village
Nurseries seeking a C.U.P.
Ms. Wolff pointed out the land owner did send a letter
authorizing the applicant to apply for the application. In
her conversations with Edison, they were aware of the
proposed office use.
Chairman Hart asked if the TSIP fees were chargeable to the
tenant or land owner? It would be determined via a
licensing agreement between them in terms of who pays the
development fees.
Commissioner Bosch stressed they needed to be careful as the
only application before them was a Conditional Use Permit.
The applicant may protest the conditions, but they are
conditions the Commission cannot modify because there is not
a Variance application. The Commission must make a decision
on the Conditional Use Permit. The applicant could apply
for a Variance and the Commission would take a separate
action.
Commissioner Master had several questions for the
representative of Edison, but he was not present. He cannot
act on this. He questions the location, and items about how
this particular location as it applies to other habitable
structures (distance separation) don't apply here under
power lines.
Mr. Rahn thought it would be possible to have someone from
Edison to address the Commission's concerns.
Commissioner Greek was concerned about the use of the vacant
land under Edison's right-of-way, on a temporary basis for a
nursery and exposing people five days a week. If this were
approved, he thought others would apply to use this land for
office space or a car sales lot. What is Edison's
intentions? He has no objection to the landscaping use
underneath, but has objection to the office/building use.
Planning Commission Minutes
March 19, 1990 - Page 9
Mr. House said the difference between this property and the
normal power line property, although there are power poles
on the property, the proximity to the buildings in the area
is 400 feet away. Edison does not allow any buildings under
their power lines. There is approximately 10 acres of bare
property with no power lines over it.
Commissioner Master asked if the separation distance was
different than what is typical for residential -- the
separation from the structure to the power lines? (Mr.
House did not know the answer, but cited examples of narrow
easements bordered by homeowners.) Commissioner Master did
not have the location of the lines in respect to the
structure. He had a serious question in his mind about
structures underneath power lines.
The public hearing was closed.
Commissioner Greek thought they should request a
representative from the Edison Company to be present to
answer their questions. It would answer Commissioner
Master's questions about the effect of the radiation or
electromagnetic waves on having an office building
underneath the power lines.
The applicant's concurrence to continue this item was sough t
and he was willing to postpone action.
Moved by Commissioner Greek, seconded by Commissioner Bosch,
that the Planning Commission continue Conditional Use Permit
1819-90 until April 16, 1990 and request the applicant to
have a representative from the Edison Company present to
answer technical and land use questions. Specific concerns
are:
1. Electromagnetic effect;
2. Are separation distances different than residential;
3. Is it true Southern California Edison has funded the
University of Southern California to do a study on
this;
4. Did they report on the findings of the telephone
company newspaper article regarding cause effects of
electromagnetic radiation in cancer.
AYES: Commissioners Bosch, Greek, Hart, Master, Scott
NOES: None MOTION CARRIED
IN RE: NEW HEARINGS
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 1799-89 - SAM HAMBARIAN/ORANGE
DISPOSAL SERVICE:
A proposed Conditional Use Permit to allow the establishment
of a truck and trash transfer station, which will include
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March 19, 1990 - Page 10
the on-site storage of baled paper and metals. The project
is known as the Orange Resource Recycling Facility. Subject
property is located at the northwest corner of Glassell
Street and Grove Avenue (2050 North Glassell Street) .
NOTE: Negative Declaration 1324 has been prepared for this
project.
The staff report was presented by Chris Carnes, Associate
Planner, Current Planning. The project is from Orange
Disposal, the City's trash disposal service. The request is
to allow a truck and trash transfer station in the M-2 zone.
The applicant and the City are working on the project
together to meet a State mandate that will reduce the amount
of solid waste leaving the City by 25~ within the near
future, and by 50~ within four years. The Negative
Declaration prepared for this project had to go through the
same procedures as an E.I.R. since the State requires a
permit be issued by the State's Intergrated Waste Management
Board. The County's Sanitation District also has to issue a
permit for this project. The review required 30 days and
went through the State's Clearinghouse for environmental
documents. It concluded that the noise, odors, traffic and
related environmental impacts to the project could be
mitigated measures. The City received comments from the
County and State and they were incorporated into the
recommended conditions of approval.
The site plan includes the construction of three buildings;
the main building is going to be a processing building
containing the tipping floor where the collection vehicles
dump trash onto and it is sorted. Trash that will be sent
to the land fill will be pushed through a hole in the floor
of the building into transfer trailers that park under it by
a large ramp. They take it to the regional land fill. The
rest of the trash is recyclable materials and it is sorted
by type of material and baled or packaged into containers on
site, awaiting to be sent to further processing centers.
The project conforms to the development standards of the M-2
zone according to building Neigh t, setbacks and landscaping
area provided. Staff would like to add to the wording of
Condition 4 that the facility is to only to be used for
trash generated within the corporate boundary of the City of
Orange. (To be added as a second sentence.) Staff has
recommended 43 conditions of approval.
Commissioner Greek asked the reason for adding the proposed
wording to Condition 4?
Mr. Carnes responded that it would assure that the facility
is not processing trash generated from Anaheim, Garden
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March 19, 1990 - Page 11
Grove, or other nearby cities. The Negative Declaration and
other reports is regarding traffic volumes and the amount of
material processed by the City of Orange and Orange
Disposal. Potentially, they could include other areas
nearby.
Commissioner Greek hated to think the City would hire a
trash truck inspector to check pick up trucks on a full time
basis. This condition is unreasonable and unenforceable.
He would rather not include it.
Commissioner Scott said the transfer station in Anaheim, off
of the freeway, has a big advertisement - "Public Welcome".
If you don't solicit it and it's only to be generated within
the City, it would eliminate this big advertising.
Other Commissioners did not feel it made a lot of sense to
include the additional wording to Condition 4.
Commissioner Bosch asked under State law to mitigate the
current conditions in waste management, what do the other
cities have to do? Are they required by State law to have
similar stations within their corporate boundaries to serve
theirs?
Mr. Carnes responded that under a blanket, they are required
to reduce the amount of trash leaving their city. It
depends on the trash district. Each city is left on their
own to resolve the problem to meet the State mandate.
The public hearing was opened.
Applicant
Mike Hambarian, Orange Disposal, 1932 Batavia Street, has
been investigating this transfer station for about 2 1/2
years. They have done a lot of work as far as what is going
to be the simplest and most effective way of using this
particular piece of property. They are going to bring in
their own refuge trucks and their recycle vehicles. Half of
the property will be for commercial use, which will be doing
recycling of the commercial vehicle that would be coming in
with trash. They are looking for 50$. By 1995, they need
to bring out 25~ divert from the land fill. By the year
2000, 50~. He is not really concerned about other cities.
They won't have to depend on other cities because they will
have their own facility. It will be a beneficial type
situation for both the City of Orange and their company.
Commissioner Scott asked if Orange Disposal's drop off bins
D.O.B.'s) are going to be recyclable?
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March 19, 1990 - Page 12
Mr. Ham barian said yes, they would try to recycle as much as
possible. In the new bill, they have to address the green
waste.
Commissioner Scott asked if they would bring in their
D.O.B.'s from other cities (because that would be violating
the condition) ?
Mr. Ham barian did not know at this time. He did not discuss
that part of it with staff. They will need to go along with
whatever the State mandates them to do. He thinks the
intent of Condition 4 pertains to other cities bringing
their trash into Orange. They're not looking for that.
Joe Risnor, Orange Disposal's engineer, Clemens Engineering,
6290 Sunset Boulevard, Los Angeles, said after they obtain
the appropriate land use permit from the City, Orange
Disposal also must obtain what is essentially an operating
permit from the State of California. This process involves
working with Orange County Health Department and the State
Board in Sacramento. The condition of the permit will be
the maximum tonnage that could be brought into the facility
will be 1,500 tons per day. That will be the limit on how
much can be brought in. Everything they have done in
preparing the materials before the Commission were based on
the maximum level of 1,500 tons per day. The facility will
have a scale where vehicles will weigh and records will be
kept. That information can be audited. When they obtain
their permit from the State, there will be a number of
conditions, some of which will be for Orange Disposal to
file periodic reports with the County and State on such
things as how much waste is coming in and are you within
your permit limits. In working with several cities, it has
been determined that the recycling goals will require them
to go beyond just curb side recycling. It will involve the
homeowner in the whole recycling process.
Chairman Hart asked for an interpretation of the Negative
Declaration pertaining to the amount of trash handled -- is
that generated in the City of Orange? How do they justify
the D.O.B.'s bringing outside trash in when the Negative
Declaration only calls for trash within the City?
Mr. Risnor thought the way the document reads right now, it
didn't really anticipate specifically the source of the
trash. It anticipated the volume of trash. It included all
D.O.B.'s and the normal trucks and private vehicles.
Commissioner Scott asked if the 1,500 tons per day were
predicated on a State permit?
Mr. Risnor said that was correct. The State's permit will
say the maximum daily capacity will be 1,500 tons per day;
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March 19, 1990 - Page 13
it's very specific. Fifteen hundred tons per day of trash
is not being generated in the City of Orange today. They
were making provisions for future growth. The State permit
will be reviewed every five years.
Commissioner Scott asked staff if tonnage were based on
population?
Mr. Carnes responded Orange Disposal processes approximately
900 tons of trash a day now. The City's population is
approximately 104,000. It is projected, by the year 2010,
to be 124,000 -- a 17~ or 18$ increase. The 1,500 tons per
day is projected for the year 2010. That's including our
increase in population -- a 66~ increase in processing
capability, which was built in.
Mr. Risnor also said the State always looks to the City, the
local community, before they establish their conditions.
When they make their submittal and application to the State
for a permit, part of the submittal will be the Conditional
Use Permit and the Negative Declaration.
Commissioner Bosch asked what types of programs were in
place for commercial trash that will be impacting this in
addition to the D.O.B.'s that account for the 50$?
Mr. Risnor said this facility will have provisions for and
will be designed to recover materials from commercial waste
not quite 50~) . Hours and truck routes can be staggered to
avoid peak traffic.
Those speaking in opposition
Wanda Bose, 12411 Rebecca Lane, Santa Ana, owns six large
buildings directly across the street on Grove and Glassell.
They have complied with the City's requirements including
landscaping and lights. Now they are faced with an
extremely large amount of dirt coming from across the
street. Their tenants have suffered, as well as the shrubs.
This is not an asset to the neighborhood. She is concerned
about the noise, roaches, odors and dust; it will lower
their property values.
Rahuttal
Mr. Hambarian:~id Orange._Disposal will be taking a great .amount
of pride in the appearance of their facility. The facility
will be fully landscaped. The problem with the current dust
is because the site is not paved. When the facility is
developed, the curb line along Glassell will be extended to
conform with the rest of the property on the street. A wall
will be built along the front of the facility. The
processing of trash will be done indoors. They addressed
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March 19, 1990 - Page 14
the issues of rodents, noise and dust in the material
submitted to the Commission, and also addressed in the
Negative Declaration. The trash will not remain on site for
any period of time. The site will be cleaned daily.
Residential trash will not be sorted too much because there
is currently a curb side program; it will be pushed into the
transfer trailer and removed from site. Mitigation measures
should not be an issue.
The public hearing was closed.
Moved by Commissioner Greek, seconded by Commissioner Bosch,
that the Planning Commission accept the findings of the
Environmental Review Board to file Negative Declaration
1324-89.
AYES: Commissioners Bosch, Greek, Hart, Master, Scott
NOES: None MOTION CARRIED
Moved by Commissioner Greek, seconded by Commissioner Hart,
that the Planning Commission approve Conditional Use Permit
1799-89, deleting the additional wording (added by staff) to
Condition 4. It's not an enforceable requirement and he
feels the capacity indicated based on the Negative
Declaration can be handled up to the year 2010, but also
there is a provision in the Negative Declaration for a 10~
increase capacity. If there is any additional material that
is available, there is no need to have a policing action
that would try to determine where the trash is coming from.
AYES: Commissioners Greek, Hart
NOES: Commissioners Bosch, Master, Scott MOTION FAILED
The Planning Commission discussed at length the amount of
trash brought into the City, tipping fees, segregation of
trash on a tonnage basis (all computerized), the protection
of the City and the traffic generation. The traffic study
is based on trips per day, 1,500 tons of trash per day -- an
ultimate capacity. They debated the issues of Condition 4.
Commissioner Bosch thought this was irrelevant discussion
because they were looking at several things. Is this an
appropriate site for this utilization, are the figures
correct for 1,500 tons, and then, in fact, doesn't the City
have to handle all the trash and meet State law somewhere?
What is the most economical way to do that? The real point
is that Orange must provide a site and Orange Disposal must
give it first priority in order to stay in business.
Mrs. Bose spoke again in defense of her property and
tenants. She felt there will be too much truck traffic if
the project is approved. She was against the amount of
money the trash company was making.
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March 19, 1990 - Page 15
Moved by Commissioner Greek to deny Conditional Use Permit
1799-89, but there was no second.
MOTION DIED
Moved by Commissioner Scott, seconded by Commissioner Bosch,
that the Planning Commission approve Conditional Use Permit
1799-89, subject to the 43 conditions as listed so as to
assure the project will be designed and built to preserve
the general welfare of the citizens of Orange and so that
the project is compatible with surrounding land uses. The
facility will give first priority to waste generated within
the incorporated boundaries of the City of Orange and will
only process waste generated outside the City as long as the
facility has excess capacity.
AYES: Commissioners Bosch, Greek, Hart, Master, Scott
NOES: None MOTION CARRIED
IN RE: OTHER ITEMS
1. CELLULAR ORDINANCE - Mr. Godlewski reported that Mr.
Carnes went to the PUC hearings concerning the cellular
antennas. It was their opinion that the cities will be
superseded in anything they do. Instructions to staff
is to proceed with the Ordinance as originally outlined
and wait until the PUC's decision is made. Guidelines
are forthcoming in the near future, but until that
happens, staff will proceed with the Ordinance as
proposed.
IN RE: ADJOURNMENT
Moved by Commissioner Master, seconded by Commissioner
Bosch, that the Planning Commission adjourn to their
regularly scheduled meeting April 2, 1990 at 7:00 p.m.,
proceeded by a 6:30 p.m. Administrative Session in the
Weimer Room. A study session will be held April 4, 1990 in
the Weimer Room regarding the zoning ordinance. Another
study session will be held April 9, 1990 at 5:00 p.m. to
discuss the landscape ordinance.
AYES: Commissioners Bosch, Greek, Hart, Master, Scott
NOES: None MOTION CARRIED
The meeting adjourned at 9:15 p.m.
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