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03-08-2000 - Minutes TC CITY OF ORANGE � :;::i CITY TRAFFIC COMMISSION ������� Minutes of a Regular Meeting: March 8R 2000 1. OPENING A. Flag Pledge Bo Roll Call: Present- Commissioners: D.Yarger,J.Fortier, F.Petronella, W.Poutsma, F.Sciarra Present-Staff: - H.Bahadori, W.Winthers, Sgt. B.Green, C.Glass, D.Allenbach, P.Then C. Approval of M i n utes: March 8, 2000 - MOTION: ). Fortier SECON D: F. Sciarra AYES: Unanimous D. Items to be Continued or Withdrawn: Request for the installation of STOP control devices at the intersection of Sycamore � Ave. and Fairmont Ave. )oseph Folske 373 N. Fairmont St. Orange CA 92868 Item removed from Consideration Calendar — Improperly addressed meeting notices. Request to be resolved administratively. Tape#CTC-20.02 of this City Traffic Commission meeting is available for your review. � Please contact the Recording Secretary at(714) 744-5536 in this regard,advance notice is appreciated. �y �1�Printed on Recycled Paper Minutes of a Regular Meeting-City Traffic Commission—March 8,2000 Page 2 I I. CONSENT CALEN DAR A. Request for the installation of a "30 MINUTE" parking zone (green curb) in front of 918 N. Batavia St. Matt & Lisa Hobson Pacific Sand & Water Sports 918 N. Batavia St. Orange CA 92867 Oral presentation is based on the written staff report, please refer to your copy. Chairman Yarger opened the public hearing for the following discussion: Commissioner Fortier—This 30 ft. is equivalent to one car length, is that correct? Dave AI lenbach, Transportation Analyst— That is correct. Chairman Yarger — I don't know, I think one parking space is rather small to try to have the Parking Control officers monitor one parking space every 30 minutes, that is a situation the Police don't need. Commissioner Fortier — If there are other businesses in the same area with the same problem then we could install this "30 MINUTE" parking zone for a larger area, that would be enforceable. This one space is (ike a private "30 MINUTE" parking zone in front of someone's business. ACTl01�1; DENY the requested installation of 30 feet of green curb in front of 918 N. Batavia Ste MOTION: J. Fortier SECOND: F. Petronella AYES: Unanimous Tape#CTC-20.02 of this City Traffic Commission meeting is available for your review. � Please contact the Recording Secretary at(714) 7445536 in this regard,advance notice is appreciatede �■1%Printed on Recycled Paper r Minutes of a Regular Meeting-City Traffic Commission—March 8,2000 " Page 3 B. Request for the installation of "RELEASED TIME TRAIIER EXEMPT" signs within the red curb area at the north end of Dlive St. across from Olive Heights Elementary School. Valerie Via, Program Director Released Time Christian Education of Orange PO Box 2935 Orange CA 92859-0935 Oral presentation is based on the written staff report, please refer to your copy. There was no discussion of this request. ACTION: APPROVE the installation of "RELEASED TIME TRAILER EXEMPT" signs within the red curb area at the north end of Olive St. across from Olive Heights Elementary School. MOTION: D. Yarger SECOND: F. Sciarra AYES: U nan i mous III. CONSIDERATION ITEMS . A. Request for the installation of STOP control devices at the intersection of Sycamore Ave. and Fai rmont St. Joseph Folske � 373 N. Fairmont St. Orange CA 92868 Iter� removed from Consideration Calendar as notices were improperly addressed. Traffic Engineering will handle request administratively. Tape#CTG20.02 of this City Traffic Commission meeting is available for your review. i� Please contact the Recording Secretary at(714) 744-5536 in this regard,advance notice is appreciated. s� �y �■f►Printed on Recycled Paper Minutes of a Regular Meeting-City Traffic Commission—March 8,2000 Page 4 B. Request for the installation of an �'All-Way" STOP control device at the intersection of Metropolitan Dr. and the westerly entrance to "The Block At Orange". Karen Copeland Burgen-Brunswig Corp. 4000 Metropol itan Dr. Orange CA 92868 Oral presentation is based on the written staff report, please refer to your copy. Chairman Yarger opened the public hearing for the following discussion: Karen Copeland, Burgen-Brunswig Corp., 4000 Metropolitan Dr. — We have an arrangement with LA Fitness and 300 of our employees work out at their facility, so there is a lot of traffic going back and forth. Since the request was submitted there actually was an accident last week wherein a vehicle was stopped for a pedestrian and was rear-ended, so we know this is a serious situation. In addition I am - surprised that The Block hasn't asked for some consideration because the traffic backs-up in the morning and evening on work days and also in the evenings on weekends for access and egress into The Block. We're asking to prevent future accidents because we really feel that the potential is there. Chairman Yarger — If we approve this I would also fike to see is the one driveway exiting onto Metropolitan at this time it has a "'R�GHT TURN oN�Y" sign, if we go to a '�4-Way" STOP I would like the �RIGHT TURN ONLY" sign removed because they would now be able to make a legal left turn from this location. � ACTION: Approve the installation of an �'AII-Way" STOP confrol device at the intersection of Metropolitan Dr. and the westerly entrance to "The Block At Orange". Remove the NRIGHT TURN ONLYn sign at the driveway when the NAII-Way" STOP sign is installed. MOTION: D. Yarger . SECOND: F. Sciarra � AYES: Unanimous Tape#CTC 20.02 of this City Traffic Commission meeting is available for your review. � Please contact the Recording Secretary at(714) 744-5536 in this re�rd,advance notice is appreciated. ��Printed on Recycled Paper Minutes of a Regular Meeting- �:ity Traffic Commission—March 8,2000 Page 5 . .C. Request to include the following streets into the Neighborhood Parking Permit Program for Area "A": Sycamore Ave. between Pine St. and Shaffer St.. North side of Palm Ave. between Shaffer St. and Pine St. Cleveland St. between Sycamore Ave. and Palm Ave. Harwood St. between Sycamore Ave. and Palm Ave. Pi ne St. between Sycamore Ave. and Pal m Ave. Sycamore Ave. between Glassell St. and Cypress St. Lemon St. between Walnut Ave. and Palm Ave. Olive St. between Walnut Ave. and Sycamore Ave. North side of Walnut Ave. between Lemon St. and Olive St. Ora1 presentation �s based on the written staff report, please refer to your copy. Chairman Yarger opened the public hearing for the fo!lowing discussion: � . Rockv Bocane�ra, 360 N. Lemon St. — I have a view of Chapman University's parking structure from my window and we bore with all the construction in the hope that we would be able to park on the street. There are a lot of homes just like mine in this area that are older homes built on (arger lots and a (ot of owners has improved on their property by building houses in the rear. Once those are in place the driveway serves both units and has to be kept open at all times, you can't p.ark in the driveway at night, which leaves us the street for parking. A lot of times the street parking is taken by peopl� who don't want to pay the $50.00 parking fee to park in the structure and they are there until 10�11:00 p.m. So other residents have to take whatever on-street parking is (eft when they get home and many times, it around the block. I'm a mechanic and I keep all my tools inside my vehicle and I cannot afford to park my van around the corner from my house, so I park on the lawn. Commissioner Fortier — How bad is it Rocky, is it most of the time you come home and you can't park anywhere close to your house? Or is it just in front of your house and one or two neighbors, or it is all the way down the block? . Rocky Bocane�ra — It's a daily thing. It's unfortunate that such a large structure was built and it's not being used to capacity. Tape#CTC-20.02 of this City Traffic Commission meeting is available for your review. � Please contact the Recording Secretary at(7�4} 744-5536 in this regard,advance notice is appreciated. �� �s �1%Printed on Recycled Paper Minutes of a Regular Meeting-�.ity Traffic Commission—March 8,2000 Page 6 Eric Domne, 428 N. Olive St. — We look right on to the parking structure and it's a main thoroughfare to get into the parking structure at the Law School. Our concern � is two-fold, 1) you cannot park on the street at.any time during the day if you're a resident unless it's Tuesday, right after the street sweeper goes by otherwise its full all day. 2) Chapman University told us they were going to build a parking structure and their students and faculty would park there. The faculty are the people who park on the street because they don't receive free parking permits for this structure. When they built the structure there was supposed to be some kind of a STOP or consideration of a dead-end at our street now we have 2-Way traffic going through that street at excessive speeds to get into classrooms. Sam Vega, 486 N. Olive St. — I support the parking permits. It's impossible to park in front of my own house because Chapman University faculty and students park on the street until about 10:00 p.m. I did attend one meeting about a week ago over at the University and they are providing free parking in the parking structure and still the students will not park there, they choose to park in front of our residences. �n trash colleetion day students have picked up my trash barrels and placed them on the parkway and they park in front of my house, now the trash can't be picked- up because they are blocked by these cars. 1've calfed the Police several times because I can't get into my driveway, I don't know what to do. I hope you will do it for us. Beatrice Ve�a, 486 N. Olive St. — The person who circulated the petition gathering signatures couldn't be here today, but I'm sure everyone in the neigh.borhood was very pleased that she made the effort. I think it will improve our lives a lot by hav�ng the students and faculty over in the parking structure as it was intended. Chairman Yarger closed the public hearing and returned the ►tem to the Commission for further discussion and a motion. Commissioner Fortier — I see a real problem for these residents because obviously they can't park in front of their homes. It's a (ot easier to pull in front of sdmeone's . house rather than go up all those ramps and find somewhere to park in the structure. I parked there last week and it was empty. Tape#CTG20.02 of this City Traffic Commission meeting is availabie for your review. ,� Please contact the Recording Secretary at(714) 744-5536 in this regard,advance notice is appreciated. r 17 �ISPrinted on Recycled Paper Minutes o$a Regular Meeting- ��ty Traffic Commission—March 8,2000 Page 7 Hamid Bahadori, Manager Transportation Services — As mentioned in our report the City Council gave speciaf consideration for these applications arid waived the $400 fee for both applications, and at the same time they directed us to work with Chapman University toward a comprehensive approach to parking management in this area. That effort is still going on so this is not the last time you will have to consider this issue we will bring another report to you in the future. In the interim regardless of whether the parking structure is free or if there is a charge, Chapman University cannot force people to park in the structure, so we need to have some protection in place for our residents in this area. Chairman Yar�er — On this item since this basically has come in two sections around the University is there any way we can handle them separately? Wa�ne Winthers, Asst. Cit� Attorne� — Yes. you can decide to approve or not approve any of the streets or any combination of the streets that you desire. Staff has their reasons why they put forth why they should be treated altogether but in your ultimate decision you may separate the streets however you want to handle them. . Chairman Yarger — If any of the other Commissioners want to go along with this I . thought maybe what we could do, since we have two separate maps here, we have Lemon St., Olive St., some of Cypress and I thought maybe we could take that on a motion and then go over to the other streets where we received a petition that a � section wanted to be removed. Would it be easier to handle it that way? � Hamid BahadoriF Manager Transportation Services — The recommended action in Section Two of your report, you may want to consider the first (ine on that group of streets is Sycamore Ave. between Pine St. and Shaffer St. If you simply change this to "Sycamore Ave. between Harwood St. and Shaffer St." that will address� the petition that has been received, the remainder of the combination of streets is not changing. Chai rman Yarger —You have the area that the residents wanted removed was on Sycamore Ave. between Harwood St. and Pine St. for both the north and south side of the street, is that correct? . . Dave Allenbach� Trans,portation Analyst—Yes that is correct. Tape#CTG20.02 of this City Traffic Commission meeting is available for your review. � Please contact the Recording Secretary at(714) 7445536 in this regard,advance notice is appreciated. —� L�Printed on Recycled Paper Minutes of a Regular Meeting-�.ity Traffic Commission—March 8,2000 � Page 8 ACTION: REMOVE the residents from the north and south side of Sycamore Ave. between Harwood St. and Pine St., and that we APPROVE the addition of the following streets to the Neighborhood Parking Permit Program Area "A": Sycamore Ave. between Harwood St. and Shaffer St. North side of Palm Ave. between Shaffer St. and Pine St. Cleveland St. between Sycamore Ave. and Palm Ave. Harwood St. between Sycamore Ave. and Palm Ave. � Pine St. between Sycamore Ave. and Palm Ave. Sycamore Ave. between G lassel( St. and Cypress St. Lemon St. between Walnut Ave. and Palm Ave. Olive St. between Walnut Ave. and Sycamore Ave. North side of Walnut Ave. between Lemon St. and Olive St. MOTION: D. Yarger SECOND: J. Fortier AYESe Unanimous Chairman Yarger — This wilt be sent on to the City Counci(, they have the final authority on this issuee Dave AI(enbach, Trans�.ortation Analyst — We wi I I re-notify al I the residents prior to the City Counci! hearing date. IVo ADMtNISTRATIVE REPORTS There were no reports this month. V. ORAL PRESENTATIONS � At the conclusi.on of the meeting of items listed on this Agenda, members of the public may address the City Traffic Commission on matters not on the Agenda, that are within the subject jurisdiction of the City Traffic Commiss�ion. � None this meeting. Tape#CTC-20.02 of this City Traffic Commission meeting is available for your review. � Please contact the Recording Secretary at(714) 744-5536 in this regard,advance notice is appreciated. � �Ir�Printed on Recycled Paper Niinutes of a Regular Meeting-City Traffic Commission—March 8,2000 Page 9 V1. ADJOURNMENT After discussion of today's Agenda items of the City Traffic Commission was concluded, and as there were no further requests for action under Oral Presentations, the Chairman adjourned this session of the City Traffic Commission at 4:06 p.m. The next regularly scheduled meeting of the City Traffic Commission will be Wednesday — April 12, 2000. Respectfully submitted, CITY OF ORANGE Phyllis Then Recording Secretary Traffic Engineering Division CITY OF ORANGE DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC WORKS TRAFFIC ENGINEERING DfVISION 300 E. CHAPMAN AVE. ORANGE CA 92866 PH: (714) 744-5536 FAx: (714) 744-6961 LI -MINUTES-MARCH [DISK#20/THENP] Tape#CTC-20.02 of this Gity Traffic Commission meeting is available for your review. � , Please contact the Recording Secretary�ay(714) 744-5536 in this regard,advance notice is appreciated. �■1►Printed on Recycled Paper