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02-14-2001 - Minutes TC � ��;� _ - � �� `�$. t. i CITY �F ORANGE . CITY TRAFFIC COMMiSSt�N iVlinutes of a Regular Meeting: February 14, 2001 I. OPENING � A. Flag Pledge B. Roil Cail: Present-Commissioners: D.Yarger,J. Fortier, F.Petroneila, F. Sciarra Present-Staff: -H. Bahadori, C. Glass, Sgt.J. Gomez-Whiteley, D.Allenbach, P.Then,W.Winthers Absent—Commissioners: W. Poufsma . C. Approval of Minutes: December 13, 2000—Approve as published by the Recording Secretary. MOTION: J. Fortier SECOND: F. Petronella . AYES: Unanimous January 10, 2001 —Approve as published by the Recording Secretary. MOTION: D. Yarger SECOND: F. Sciarra AYES: Unanimous IL CONSENT CALENDAR �. A. Request for the installation of red curb markings in front of 180 S. Cypress St. � Jim Owens . 163 S. Cypress St. Orange CA 92866 � � Oral presentation is based on the writ�en staff report;please refer to your copy. There was no discussion of this request. ACTION: Approve the installafiion of red curb markings in front of 180 S. Cypress St. MOTION: D. Yarger SEC�ND: F. Petronella . AYESe Unanimous � � Tope#CTC-21.02 of this Cify Traffic Commission meeting is available for your review. �, Please contact the Recording Secreta at�714j 744-5536 in this regard,advance notice is appreciated. �� Printed.on Recycled Poper Minutes of a Regular Meeting-City . .,ffic Commission—February 14,2001 py,2 B. Request for the instaliation of red curb markings adjacent to the Parker St. driveway that services 725 Town & Country Rd. Rita Olson 725 Town & Country Rd., #400 Orange CA 92866 Oral presentation is based on the written staff report; p/ease refer to yaur copy, There was no discussion of this request. ACTION: Approve the installation of red curb markings on both sides of the driveway that services 725 Town & Country Rd. (Parker St. frontage). MOTION: D. Yarger SECOND: J. Fortier � . AYES: Unanimous I11. CONSIDERATION ITEMS 1. Request to rescind the request for the installation of an "All-Way" STOP control device at the intersection of Regency Ave. and Meredith Ste Scott Lidgard 2808 E. Katella Ave.,#107 Orange CA 92867-5246 Oral presentation is based on the written staff report; please refer to your copy. There was no discussion of this item. Vice-Chairman Fortier— Seeing that it does meet warrants and there is no history of accidents I would like the Commission to consider approving this request as its not a safety hazard. ACTfON: Approve the request and rescind the decision to install an "All-Way" ST�P control device at the intersection of Regency Ave. and Meredith St. MOTION: J. Fortier SECOND: D. Yarger � AYES: Unanimous Tape#CTC-21.02 of this Cify Traffic Commission meeting is available for your review. � Please contact the Recording Secretary at(714)744-5536 in this regard,advance notice is appreciated. �� Printed on Recycfed Paper Minutes of a Regular Meeting-City ..affic Commission—February 14,20Q1 Pg,3 2. Request to remove the "1-Hour" parking restriction from both sides of Jefferson Ave. between Shaffer St. and Harwood St. Dan Armstrong Alain Hasson 541 E. Jefferson Ave. 634 E. Jefferson Orange CA 92866 Orange CA 92866 Oral presentation is based on the written staff report; please refer to your copy. Chairman Yarger opened the public hearing for the following discussion of this requesf: Alain Hasson, 634 E. Jefferson Ave. — The student parking lot at OHS is, at best, 2/3 full so there is adequate parking on campus at this time. I would prefer a trial period of 6 months without parking restrictions so we can see if there I a problem with Chapman students and we could readdress the probfEm at that time. Permit parking are growing in that area but I don't want to pay for permits to park in front of my own home. Hamid Bahadori, .Mgr. Transportation Services — If the residents of the area experience a problem after you remove the one-hour time limit parking restriction, for staff to receive and consider a request for permit parking there is a $400 application fee that must be paid by the residents before we will entertain their request. The other fee associated with the actual • permits is collected by the Police Dept. is for the permit itselfe The City ordinance requires a $400 application fee that only the City Council may waive. Vice Ghairman Fortier — I heard you say that we would want to know if the majority of the people affected were in favor of taking away the restrictions, how do we do that? Dave Allenbach, Transportation Analyst — Basically what we have done is notify residents on both sides of the street between Harwood and Shaffer, they are aware of today's meeting. So far we have received 2 letters from these residents that we have included in your packet noting their concerns. One of the proponent's is here as well as a few of the area residents, the removal of this type of parking restriction does not require circufation of a petition, similarly the implementation of these parking restrictions was not done through a petition process, it was initiated through a request before the CTC and approved by the City Councii. One of the area residents who lives on Jefferson in proximity to Shaffer St. could not attend today because of health reasons, she requires a van from St. Joseph's to pick her up for her medical treatments. If you elect to remov� the 1-Hour parking on the street, I might suggest we install green curb adjacent to her residence which would allow some short term parking so the van can park in front of her home to facilitate her needs. Chairman Yar�c�er— !f you take the parking off and the Chapman students begin parking in that area then we are going to need Parking Control monitor the area and see if anyone is parking in the green marked area. Sgt. Gomez-WhiteleX — Normally what we do on an area that has a specialized problem is to wait for service because the parking control officers responsible for that are also responsible for the whole city. Tape#CTG21.02 of this City Traffic Commission meeting is available for your review. � Please contact the Recording Secretary at(714)744-5536 in this regard,advance notice is appreciated. �� . _ � Printed on Recycled Paper Minutes of a Regular Meeting-City . ..ific Commission—February 14,20U1 Pg.4 Chairman Yarger — If we install green curb here would it require a sign indicating that it is a Ioading zone and if it does is it too close to the STOP sign at the corner? Dave Allenbach, Transportation Analvst — I haven't measured it but there is some existing red curb that was installed in proximiiy to Shaffer for the STOP sign for the westbound direction. Easterly of the_end of that red curb there is about 20 ft. or room for one vehicle to park, then we get to the driveway. I think, in this particular case, we could probably paint the curb and just stencil it or put up a sign for 1 hour parking, whatever the Police would feel comfortable in enforcing. Chairman Yarger— If we are thinking about putting in a 20 minute loading zone could we legally paint it blue for a handicap pick-up? Dave Allenbach, 7ransportation Analvst— No, the ADA has changed the standard for on-street blue curb a few years ago and what is now required is a {evel concrete area in the parkway the length of the blue curb and an access ramp either in the front or the end of the blue curb, and a driveway approach is not considered an access ramp. Commissioner Petronel{a—Does she have a driveway? Dave Allenbach, Transportation Analyst—Yes, she has a driveway. It is a very short driveway and I don't know that the van that picks her up wants to pull in there because they most likefy would hang out over the sidewalk and possibly into the street. Hamid Bahadori, Mgr. Transportation Services—A green curb does not restrict parking, anyone can park there for the period of time that is allowable. You need to specify if you want it to be 20-minute, 30-minute or 1-hour parking. But giving her a green curb does not guarantee that no one else will park in that location; it's not reserved parking. Lila Hasson, 634 E. Jefferson — It's a van that holds 12 passengers. Can't you paint the curb red? Hamid Bahadori, Mgr. Transportation Services — If you are considering some kind of accommodation of the land parking that area can be restricted parking or no parking and they . we can have bus exemption provided; it's a no parking except for this type of vehicle. That will� guarantee the accommodation of the parking without obligating us to any official and standard type of access. Mary Rowe, 521 E. Jefferson—No one is parking in the area where the van picks her up. Vice Chairman Fortier—Were you aware that there is a $400 application fee that the residents � are responsible for in order to process a request for permit parking, and if so would that change your mind? Tape#CTC-21.02 of this City Traffic Commission meeting is available for your review. � Please contact the Recording Secretary at(714)744-5536 in this regard,advance notice is appreciated. �� Printed on Recycled Paper Minutes.of a Regu(ar Meeting-City ►.<.fic Commission—February 14,2001 Pg.5 Mary Rowe, 521 E. Jefferson — No I wasn't aware of the fee but it wouldn't change my mind, f think enough people in the neighborhood could pool their funds. Alain Hasson, 634 E. Jefferson — The problem exists because this person doesn't like anyone parking in front of her house, doesn't like kids riding their bikes in her driveway or sidewalk, she is the source of the problem. Everyone else would just as soon leave it like it is that way we don't have to worry about Chapman students. Anytime this resident calls to complain that someone is parked in front of her place then the Police Dept. must follow the law and enforce the entire street to be ticketed. She is 80-81 years old. Frankly, I don't have a problem because ! wafk to work but we're spending a great deal of time because the law says that if you're going to enforce the law you have to enforce it equally. She's caused a lot of us a little bit of anger because she doesn't want anyone to park there, she creates these problems. Chairman Yarger — Well maybe she has some problems at 81 years old, and perhaps we should be take those into consideration. Hamid Bahadori, Mqr. Transportation Services — You can consider a motion for restricting parking in front of her house as a blanket restriction and then have exemptions for special vehicles. However, if you leave it as is and the Police stil! receive calls they wil( still go out and enforce the 1-hour parking restrictions. Sgt. Whiteley—That is correct. Hamid Bahadori, Mgr. Transportation Services — We are technically not obligated to notify any resident of parking restrictions on city streets, State law and City ordinances neither require such notification. However, it has been the City's longstanding policy that whenever there is a parking restriction in front of somebody's house they are notified. This item is on your agenda and you may take whatever action you please at this point, legally, but the decision to restrict parking in front of her house only to special vehicles, she has not received notification of this. Chairman Yarger—Okay, lets continue this to next month until we can notify hera ACTION: Continue item for 30 days and notify affected resident. MOTION: D. Yarger SECOND: F. Sciarra � AYES: Unanimous Tape#CTG21.02 of this City Traffic Commission meeting is available for your review. � Please contact the Recording Secretary at(714}744-5536 in this regard,advance notice is appreciated. � �Printed on Recycled Paper Minutes of a Regular Meeting-City�._.rfic Commission—February 14,2001 Pg.6 3. Request for the installation of "20 Minute" time lirnit parking in front of the Woodland Apartments at 501 E. Katella Ave. � Isabel Marquez 501 E. Katelfa Ave. � Orange CA 92867 Oral presentation is based on the written staff report; please refer to your copy. There was no discussion of this request. ACTION: Approve the request and instalt "20 Minute" time limit parking in front of the Woodland Apartments at 501 E. Katella Ave. MOT10N: D. Yarger SECOND: F. Petronella AYES: Unanimous �4o Request for the installation of an "All-Way" STOP control device at the intersection of Riverview Ave. and Gayle Sf. . Michael Chew 1528 E. San Alto Ave. Orange CA 92865 Dave Allenbach, Transportation Analyst—The proponent contacted us and informed us that he could not be here today due to illness, and requested that the CTC continue this item to our meeting in March. Traffic Engineering staff has no objection to this request and we recommend this item be continued to the March 14, 2001 agenda. �4CTION: Continue to the next Traffic Commission meeting. MOTION: D. Yarger SECOND: F. Sciarra � AYES: Unanimous 1\/. ADMINISTRATIVE REPORTS � � IVone this month. Tape#CTG21.02 of this City Traffic Commission meeting is availabfe for your review. � Please contact the Recording Secretary at(714)744-5536 in this regard,advance notice is appreciated. — Printed on Recycled Paper Minutes of a Regular Mee6ng-City ..rfic Commission—February 14,2001 p9 7 V. ORAL PRESENTATIONS PUBLtC PARTICIPATION —At the conclusion of the meeting of items listed on this Agenda, members of the public may address the City Traffic Commission on matters not on the Agenda that are within the subject jurisdiction of the City Traffic Commission. �/..I/.�/A/.0/�/.AI/.�'/.4T'/�'/.�/�/,4/.�/.I/.�/,�/.�/.�/40�/.aA/,�'/.r�Y.aa/.t9'Y.tB/.�/,A�/IB'/.I/sY/.r�/.e7/.�/�/.N/.�/IV'/,�/.A�/.p/.d7/,�/.4/.�%�/.Y/.�/.�Y.�/.!A/.A7/.�/.r�/�Y.aN/.�/O/.�/,�'/./'/.A�/.aI/.�/.�/d►/i8►/.e17/.a�/.�/�/.�/.B�/,�'/�/�/�9'/.lA�/O/�'/.�/.�'Ye�/.!/.f!/B'/�Y,�/O/.O'/� � � � Open discussion of items not previously discussed on the Agenda. Time limit is three(3) minutes per speaker. i � o , �.�.�,.�,,�,.�,�.,.���,.�,.�,.�,.�,.���,�%�%�,..,,�,.�,�,.�,.�,,���%�,,�,,�,.���,.�,..,�,.�,�,,�,�,�,�,.�,.�,..,.�,.�,�����-,�,,�,�,�,.�,s,.�,�,�,�,�,.�,.�,.�,A,.�,�,.�,m�,�,�,.�,.�����.,.��.���,.�,.�,.�..�,.���,�,�,�,.�,.�,.�,.�,.�,.��.� None this month. VI. ADJOURNMENT After discussion of today's Agenda items of the City Traffic Commission was concluded, and as there were no further requests for action under Oral Presentations, the Chairman adjourned this session of the City Tra�c Commission at 4:10 p.m. . A special meeting of the City Traffic Commission will be held Wednesday—March 14, 2001. RespectFully submitted, _ CITY OF ORANGE Phyllis Then Recording Secretary ' Traffic Engineering Division CITY OF ORANGE DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC WORKS � TRAFFIC ENGINEERING DIVISION 300 E. CHAPMAN AVE. ORANGE CA 92866 PH: (714)744-5536 FAx: (714)744-6961 � -MINUTES-FEBRUARY [C:1Myoc\Then] Tape#CTC-21.02 of this City Traffic Commission meeting is available for your review. � Please contact the Recording Secretary at(714)744-5536 in this regard,advance notice is appreciated. �� � Printed on Recycled Paper