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Home My WebLink About11-06-2002 - Minutes TC CITY OF ORANGE CITY TRAFFiC COMMISSION Minutes of a Regular Meeting: November 6. 2002 �. OPENING A. Flag Ptedge B. Roll Cali: Present—Commissioners: D. Yarger, J. Fortier, F. Sciarra, F. Petronella, M. Burkhardt _ Present—Staff: R. Hohnbaum, C. Glass, Sgt. J. Burton, D. Allenbach, W. Winthers, P. Then C. Approval of Minutes: ♦ September 11, 2002 ACTION: Approve as pubiished by the Recording Secretary. MOTION: F. Sciarra SECOND: J. Fortier AYES: Unanimous ♦ October�, 2002 ACT10N: Approve as published by the Recording Secretary. MOTION: J. Fortier SECOND: F. Sciarra AYES: Unanimous ,".,� �-Y� ��,� � t:::.� :::� f{�� ..�....,`�'�'` :� `.`:.._.,...��w '��:=°��'�'C��'�9�:�i� ,,�A Tape#CT'C-22.09 of this City Traffic Corrunission meeting is available for your review. �- Please contact the Recording Secretary at(714)744-5536 in this regard,advance notice is appreciated. �M'Printed on Recvcled Paper Minutes of a Regular Meefing—City Traffic Commission—November 6,2Q02 p9.2 I1. CONSENT CALENDAR A. Requested implementation of term limit parking restrictions on Palm Ave. adjacent to the Time Warner Cable office at 303 W. Palm Ave. Kristy Hennessey 303 W. Palm Ave. �range CA 92866 Oral presentation is based on the written staff report;please refer to your copy. There - was no discussion of this request. ACTION: Approved the request for the installation of '30-Minute' term limit ` parking restrictions at 303 W. Palm Ave. Approved the installatior� of 30 ft. of red curb markings adjacent to the southbound Lemon St. STOP sign. MOTION: D. Yarger SECOND: F. Petronella � AYES: Unanimous B. Requested removas of the "1 Hour"term limit parking in front of 640 N. Cypress St. Gene Sobel 410 W. Fletcher Ave. Orange CA 92865 Oral presentation is based on the written staff report;please refer to your copy. There was no discussion of this request. ACTION: Approved the removal of the "1-Hour"term limit parking zane in front of 640 N. Cypress St. MOTI�N: D. Yarger SECOND: J. Fortier AYES: Unanimous �� End of Consent Calendar �� «.,. Tape#CTC-22.09 of this City Traffic Commission meeting is available for your review. � Please contact the Recording Secretarq at(714)744-5536 in this regard,advance notice is appreciated. �Printed on Recvcled Paper Minutes of a Regular Meeting—City Tra�c Commission—November 6,2002 Pg.3 ille CONSIDERATION ITEMS 1. Requested installation of an "All-Way" STOP controt device at the intersection of Palm Ave. and Harwood St. � Michelle Jackson Ron Sage 253 N. Harwood St. 613 E. Pam Ave. Orange CA 92865 Orange CA 92865 Vice-Chairman Fortier— In looking at the accident report it appears to me that the autos are coming down Harwood St. and there is a STOP sign already but people have failed to stop, and that is the cause of the accidents. Is that correct? Dave Ailenbach, Transportation Analvst—That is correct. Chairman YarQer — You mentioned that the last couple of accidents occurred 9-13-02 and also 3-6-01 which is 18 months, we've only had one accident within that time, is that correct? � Dave Allenbach. Transaortation Analvst — In a calendar year; however, it was reasonably close to the timeframe that we were looking at and there was a similar type #hat could be susceptible to correction, so we included it in our one-year evaluation. Chairman YarQer — In the Police report Sgt. Burton you have a statement from the pedestrian, what did she say about the accident? Sqt. Jeff Burton, �PD Traffic Bureau — She stated that she was wearing head phones and that she had seen the vehicle and just did nothing other than to wa[k a little faster. Chairman YarQer — Instead of stopping and going back to the other side of the street when she saw the vehicle coming. Oral presentafion is based on the written staff report; please refer to your copy. Chairman Yarger opened the public hearing for the following discussion: Stephanie Burch. 648 E. Palm Ave. —Opposed to sign. We live 2 houses from the Palm Market so we deal with so much traffic as it is, stop and go, it's all we hear. Having another STOP sign would double that and make it worse. Joe Wavman. 709 E. Palm Ave. — In favor. I understand the noise and air pollution problem but we're talking about human life. People use Palm instead of Chapman. Chairman YarQer — The statement this young lady gave the Police, kids are kids and they think they are invincible but pedestrians have to take responsibility also. She stated that she saw the car coming and instead of stopping and going back to the curb and trying to walk in front of oncoming traffic she walked faster. �«.. � Tape#CTG22.09 of this City Traffic Commission meeting is available for your review. �� Please contact the Recording Secretary at(714)744-5536 in this regard,advance notice is appreciated. � �Printed on Recvcled Paper Minutes of a Regular Meeting—City Traffic Commission—November 6,2002 p9.4 Joe Wavman — Yeah but she doesn't have a driver's license so she doesn't unders#and that. They don't understand the finality of death. They don't understand the stopping distance of a car. We've got to protect our kids. Chairman Yarqer — We've also taken speed starveys and have found no excessive speeding on that street. Commissioner Sciarra — What time of day do you observe Palm being used as a freeway? � Joe Wayman — Usually the commute hours like 9 to 5, they probably start leaving about 8 a.m. when rnost of the people in the neighborhood have already gone to work so most people are unaware of it. P'd like to see something to slow down the traffic. !t's a narrow 2-lane street in a residential area. Chairman Yarqer— What is the result of the speed zone survey along this segment of Palm? Dave Allenbach — I should indicate that STOP signs are not installed to reduce speed, they are used to assign right-of-way. As part of our study we conducted a speed zone su�-vey with the following results: 85 Percentile Speed 32.7 MPH 50 Percentile Speed 27.8 MPH Vehicular speed 75%vehicles sampled . 24-33 MPH Highest speed recorded 45 MPH Marsha Wavman, 709 E. Palm Ave. — In favor. When I'm out walking I see that the cars are going over the speed limit many times and I've really seen a lot of this if I go out walking in the evening. I know you say STOP signs aren't used to slow traffic but 1 think it may help. � Chairman Yarqer — Sgt. Burton have you had any people monitoring speeds in this area? Sqt. Jeff Burton, OPD Traffic Bureau—Yes, shortly after the auto/pedestrian accident we received a request for increased enforcement in this area. We assigned several of our . motor officers to work that at various times during the day, we monitored it for about a week and the highest speed observed by our officers was 41 MPH and the average seemed to be between 28-33 MPH. Commissioner Burkhardt� — Is there anything you can do to enhance safety at that specifia area? Dave Allenbach — In reviewing the accident history we find that the most of the accidents are north and southbound cars failing to STOP. We could install larger STOP signs and the advisory signs that "CROSS-TRAFFIC DOES N�T STOP" which further indicates that this is a 2-way STOP. �� Tape#CTG2209 of this City Traffic Commission meeting is available for your review. � Please contact the Recording Secretarp at(714)744-5536 in this regard,advance notice is appreciated. Is� �Printed on Recvcled Paver Minutes of a Regular Meeting—City Traffic Commission—November 6,2002 p9, 5 Commissioner Sciarra — Staff has recommended that additional speed enforcement be applied at this location, which I think may help this situation. Chairman Yarger closed the public hearing and returned the item to the Commission for final comments and a motion. AGTI�N: Denied the installation of an "All-Way" STOP control at the intersection of Palm Ave. and Harwood St. Approved the installation of larger sized STOP signs and advisory signs indicating "cRoss- T�►FF�c �oEs NOT sTOP", and approved an increased Police presence in the area MOTION: D. Yarger SECOND: J. Fortier AYE�: Unanimous 2. Requested removal of on-street parking from the west side of 566 S. Glassell St. southerly to the Santiago Creek Bridge, for the installation of an acceleration lane for southbound traffic exiting the driveway servicing Holy Family Church & School. Rev. Arthur Holquin Margaret Harlow, Principal Holy Family Cathedral Holy Family Cathedral School 530 S. Glassell St. 530 S. Glassell St. Orange CA 92866 Orange CA 92866 Oral presentation is based on the written staff report; please refer to your copy. Chairman Yarger opened the public hearing for the following►discussion: Bovd Schultz, 8221 E. Thistle Ct. — Favor. I understand the 700 ft. merge lane but we need to do something. By getting rid of the parking it makes room for those cars to pull out of the church and school to keep the traffic flowing is a good idea. Your plan looks good just as long as you re-stripe the road so the parents can see the lines and know where the traffic is. Chairman Yarger closed the public hearing and returned the item to the Commission for final comments and a motion. ACTION: Denied the installation of a merge tane south of the subject driveway. Approved removal of 160 feet of curbside parking adjacent to 574 & 620 S. Glassell St. Approved the installation of a 100 ft. right-turn lane for southbound Glassell St. at the private street servicing the Park Orleans Condominiums. MOTION: F. Sciarra � SECOND: F. Petronella AYES: Unanimous ��.,, � Tape#CTC-22.09 of this City Traffic Commission meeting is available for your review. � � Please contact the Recording Secretary at(714)744-5536 in this regard,advance notice is appreciated. �I,.1.!� �!+'Printed on Recvcled Paper Minutes of a Regular Meeting—City Traffic Commission—November 6,2002 pg,g 3. Request to include the 100-200 block of E. Everett Pt. into Area A of the Neighborhood Parking Permit Program. Gail Druiff 142 E. Everett PI. Orange CA 92867 Oral presentation is based on the wriften staff report; please refer to your copy. Chairman Yarger opened the public hearing for the following discussion: Glen Bornhoff, 681 N. Glassell St. — I have a Glassefl St. address but my front door and driveway.faces Everett. I would like to be included in this parking permit area as well. l notice in the letter that this begins at the house next door to me, and the corner house has a Glassell address. Dave Allenbach — You would be included in the permit area because you have side frontage onto the street. Since you're on the corner and you have some frontage on the subject street you and the person across the street from you who also has a Glassell address would be included in the program. Chairman Yarger closed the public hearing and returneal the item to the Commission for further discussion and a motion. ACTION: Approved the addition of the 100-200 block of E. Everett P1. into the Neighborhood Parking Permit Program. MOTION: D. Yarger SECOND: J. Fortier AYES: Unanimous 4o Requested striping rnodifications and parking restrictions on �lassell St. between Collins Ave. and Katella Ave. and the installation of a traffic signal at the intersection of Glasself St. and Adams Ave. Traffic Engineering Division CITY 4F ORANGE Oral presentation is based on the written staff report; please refer to your copy. There was no diseussion of this request. ACTION: Approved the installation of protected left-turn lanes on Glassell St. between Colfins Ave. and.Katella Ave. MOTI4N: D. Yarger SECOND: F. Petronella AYES: Unanimous , ,��. Tape#CTC-22.09 of this City Traffic Commission meeting is available for your review. �= Please contact the Recording Secretary at(774)744-5536 in this regard,advance notice is appreciated. � �Printed on Recvcled Paper Minutes of a Regular Meeting—Gity Traffic Commission—November 6,2002 Pg. 7 ACTION: Approved the removat of on-street parking where needed from both sides of Glassell St. between Colfins Ave. and Katella Ave. to impiement installation of the teft-turn lanes. MOTION: D. Yarger SECOND: F. Sciarra AYES: Unanimous ACTION: Approved the instaliation of a traffic signal at the intersection of Glassell St. &AdamsNVilson Ave. MOTION: D. Yarger SECONDo F. Petronella AYES: Unanimous ACTION: Approved the removal of a "right-turn-in/right-turn-out" turn diverter on the west leg of Hoover Ave. at Glassell St. MOTION: D. Yarger SECOND: J. Fortier AYES: Unanimous ACTION: Approved the relocation of the schooi crossing guard from the east leg of Wilson Ave. at Glassell St. to Glassefl St. at Adams/Wilson Ave. MOTION: D. Yarger SECOND: F. Sciarra AYES: Unanimous ACTION: Approved the removal of the pedestrian crosswalks on Glassell St. at the east leg of Wilson Ave. and from Glassell St. at Quincy Ave. MOTION: D. Yarger SECOND: J. Fortier AYES: Unanimous ACTION: Approved the relocation of the school crossing guard and crosswalk from Shaffer St. at Wilson Ave. to Shaffer St. and Quincy Ave. MOTION: D. Yarger SECOND: J. Fortier AYES: Unanimous R��, ' Tape#CTC-22.09 of this City Traffic Commission meeting is available for your review. ��: Please contact the Recording Secretarp at(714)744-5536 in this regard,advance notice is appreciated. � �Printed on Recvcled Paper Minutes of a Regular Meeting—City Traffic Commission—November 6,2002 p9,g ACTION: Approved understanding that all work to be done in conjunction with the installation of a traffic signal. MOTION: D. Yarger SECOND: F. Sciarra AYES: Unanimous �� End of Consideration Calendar �� IV.ADMINISTRATIVE REPORTS None this month. Vs ORAL PRESENTATIONS None this month. \/t. ADJOURNMENT After discussion of today's Agenda items of the City Traffic Commission was concluded, and as there were no further requests for action under Oral Presentations, the Chairman � adjourned this session of the City Traffic Commission at 6:15 p.m. The next regular meeting of the City Traffic Commission is scheduled for Wednesday� December 11, 2002 at 5:30 p.m. Respectfully submitted, CITY OF ORANGE Phyllis Then Recording Secretary Traffic Engineering Division CITY OF ORANGE DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC WORKS TRAFFIC ENGINEERING DIVISION 3OO E.CHAPMAN AVE. o�aNGE CA 92866 PH: (714)744-5536 FAx: (714) 744-5573 �Nov-Minutes[C:1MyDoc\Thenp) �� Tape#CTC-2209 of this City Traffic Comnussion meeting is available for your review. �� Please contact the Recording Secretary at(714)7445536 in this regard,advance notice is appreciated. � �Printed on Recvcled Paper