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Minutes of a Regular Meeting: October 11, 2006
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I. OPENING
A. Flag Pledge
B. Roll Call
Present – Commissioners: J. Beil, L. Dick, N. Lall, F. Petronella, J. Pyne
Present – Staff: T. Mahood, D. Allenbach, W. Winthers, Sgt. S. O’Toole, P. Then
C. Approval of Minutes
September 5, 2006
ACTION: Approved as published by the Recording Secretary.
MOTION: N. Lall
SECOND: J. Pyne
AYES: Unanimous
II. ORAL PRESENTATIONS
None this meeting.
III. CONSENT CALENDAR
A single motion enacts all Consent Items unless requested to be heard
separately.
A. Request for the installation of red curb markings adjacent to the driveway
serving 944 N. Cambridge St.
Anne Gallegos
944 N. Cambridge St.
Orange CA 92867
The oral presentation is based on the written staff report; please
refer to your copy. There were no speakers from the audience and
no discussion of this request.
ACTION: Approved the installation of 20 feet of red curb on both
sides of the driveway.
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B. Request for the installation of red curb markings on the east side of the
driveway at 1845 E. Palmyra Ave.
Joseph Gabrill
1845 E. Palmyra Ave.
Orange CA 92866
The oral presentation is based on the written staff report; please
refer to your copy. There were no speakers from the audience and
no discussion of this request.
ACTION: Approved the installation of 15 feet of red curb on the east
side of the driveway.
MOTION: L. Dick
SECOND: F. Petronella
AYES: Unanimous
NOES: None
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IV. CONSIDERATION ITEMS
1. Request for the installation of a “HANDICAPPED” parking zone in front of
916 N. Laurel Dr.
Debbie Wagner
916 N. Laurel Dr.
Orange CA 92867
The oral presentation is based on the written staff report; please
refer to your copy. There were no speakers from the audience and
no discussion of this request.
ACTION: Approved the request for a “HANDICAPPED” parking zone in
front of 916 N. Laurel Dr.
MOTION: J. Pyne
SECOND: F. Petronella
AYES: Unanimous
NOES: None
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2. Request to remove parking from the north side of LaVeta Ave. from 120 ft.
west of the railroad tracks to 30 ft. east of the railroad tracks.
Southern California Railroad Authority
700 S. Flower St., 26th Floor
Los Angeles, CA 90017
The oral presentation is based on the written staff report; please
refer to your copy. Chairman Beil opened the public hearing for the
following discussion of this request.
Chairman Beil – The project is for the grade crossings that are going in,
particularly the pre-cast concrete panel crossing. On the north side they’re going
in pretty much at full width, so it made me wonder what is the ultimate plan for
this section of LaVeta in the Master Plan of Arterial Highways, since there is such
a difference in width as you cross that tract?
Tom Mahood, City Traffic Engineer – The City ultimately has plans to widen
LaVeta but nothing in the next 5-8 years. The portion of LaVeta on the east side
of the tracks is out to it’s ultimate, and we assume the street on the west would be
widened out at least as far as Batavia St. There are no plans in the CIP to do that
right now, we’re concentrating on some of the larger arterials.
Chairman Beil – We did approve left-turn signalization for westbound LaVeta
Ave. to southbound Parker St. at a previous meeting.
Fern Tyrell, 513 W. LaVeta Ave. – I don’t disagree with removing the parking I
think that is a great idea, the only problem is that LaVeta is an arterial and my
driveway is maybe 13 ft. wide, and we can only back in and out. Right now the
parking lane provides a little “buffer”, the building next to me is on the right-of-
way line, and we can’t see oncoming traffic when backing out of the driveway
until we’re a little bit out into the street. I don’t know how it will be achieved but
we would need a little bit of a buffer zone for sight distance concerns.
Tom Mahood, City Traffic Engineer – The area along Montgomery Way is real
problematic for the City because Montgomery Way is only 11 ft. wide and it is also
part of the Metrolink project. The area where vehicles have been parking is going
to be recovered by Metrolink, they’ve actually been parking on railroad right-of-
way under an agreement with the City. Effective November 23rd, 2006 that
agreement will be terminated by Metrolink so there will be no parking on
Montgomery Way, we’ll go back to the existing 11 ft. right-of-way. The City is not
thrilled with that, we really want Montgomery Way to go away; we’ve been
talking with our Redevelopment Agency to look into acquiring all that property.
The parcels all take access from Montgomery Way, that is their only legal access,
so we can’t get rid of Montgomery Way until we acquire those parcels. There is
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some action in that direction and when that happens that industrial building
would probably be taken down.
Fern Tyrell, 513 W. LaVeta Ave. – So they’re looking to eliminate Montgomery
Way entirely?
Tom Mahood, City Traffic Engineer – We don’t really want the access of
Montgomery Way out onto LaVeta, that’s the problem, but we can’t close that off
at this point. If we acquire the parcels that take access off Montgomery Way then
they could be consolidated and Montgomery Way could be abandoned and they
could take access either off LaVeta in some better manner, or back to Culver Ave.
Fern Tyrell, 513 W. LaVeta Ave. – So they’re looking at acquiring the two
industrial buildings?
Dave Allenbach, Transportation Analyst – There’s about 4-5 buildings along
Montgomery Way.
Tom Mahood, City Traffic Engineer – It’s still in the talk stages but it’s something
we would really like to do because everybody is really stuck with Montgomery
Way, and it’s a real problem.
Fern Tyrell, 513 W. LaVeta Ave. – Realistically since I know the median is going
in is there anything that can be done in the interim, or am I just going to be
backing out with cars coming at me at 50 MPH?
Tom Mahood, City Traffic Engineer – There’s probably not much we can do
because the location of the median is already fixed because of the size of the gate
arms and such. I’m not sure if we can install some advance striping on the east
side of LaVeta Ave. to try to channel vehicles more towards the center and keep
them away a little bit. You’re still going to have that same situation where you’re
backing out of the driveway next to that building, other than putting up a mirror
I’m not sure how you can improve that visibility.
Chairman Beil – The ultimate fix will really be if the LaVeta Ave. widening
through that section is ever programmed in the Capital Improvements Program
and the plan prepared for implementation. It’s my understanding, per Federal
Rail Authority rules with a crossing they need to put those in and it is probably a
real big first step in implementing some effective quiet zones on some of the rail
crossings in the City so we don’t have to have the whistles, horns and sirens
wailing all hours of the night.
Fern Tyrell, 513 W. LaVeta Ave. - That’s why I’m all for the parking removal, and
the removal of the left in, cause I’ve seen a few crashes out in front of my house,
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that median with the left in and out of the driveways would make things better
along there.
Vice Chairman Lall – The only comment I have is that I can fully understand the
problem of backing out, unfortunately it seems to me there are very few solutions,
but that convex mirror would probably be the only solution for the short-term. I
don’t think that’s something the City would provide but I’ve been in several
parking garages and it’s been helpful for me. Other than that I think our hands
are pretty much tied with what the PUC requires.
Chairman Beil closed the public hearing and returned the item to the
Commission for further discussion and a motion.
ACTION: Approved the removal of on-street parking from the north
side of LaVeta Ave. from 30 feet east of the railroad tracks
to Pixley St.
MOTION: F. Petronella
SECOND: J. Pyne
AYES: Unanimous
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
Tom Mahood, City Traffic Engineer – I would like to add that the parking
restrictions won’t go in until they actually begin working on the double-tracking
which may not be until after the first of the year.
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V. ADMINISTRATIVE REPORTS
None this meeting.
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VI. ADJOURNMENT
After discussion of today’s Agenda the City Traffic Commission meeting was
concluded, and as there were no further requests for action under Oral
Presentations, the Chairman adjourned this session of the City Traffic Commission.
The next meeting of the City Traffic Commission is scheduled:
5:30 P.M.
Wednesday - November 8th, 2006
Respectfully submitted,
CITY OF ORANGE
Phyllis Then, Recording Secretary
Traffic Engineering Division
pthen@cityoforange.org
CITY OF ORANGE
PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT
300 E. CHAPMAN AVENUE
ORANGE CA 92866
PH: (714) 744-5536
FAX: (714) 744-5573
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