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Minutes of a Regular Meeting: April 12, 2006
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I. OPENING
A. Flag Pledge
B. Roll Call
Present – Commissioners: J. Beil, N. Lall, F. Petronella, J. Pyne, L. Dick
Present – Staff: T. Mahood, D. Allenbach, W. Winthers, Sgt. S. O’Toole, P. Then
C. Approval of Minutes
March 8, 2006
ACTION: Approved with the following correction; Commissioner Pyne did
not attend the March 8, 2006 meeting.
MOTION: F. Petronella
SECOND: N. Lall
AYES: J. Beil, N. Lall, F. Petronella
ABSTAIN: J. Pyne, L. Dick
II. ORAL PRESENTATIONS
Patty Winter, 471 S. Mountain Glen Rd., Anaheim – Spoke about the heavy traffic
conditions on Cannon St. and Santiago Canyon Rd. People are driving
southbound on Cannon St. in the right-turn only lane and as they get 3-4 car
lengths away from Santiago Canyon Rd. they cut into the traffic waiting to make
the left-turn. Additionally, in the afternoon traffic on westbound Santiago
Canyon Rd. queues so badly to turn right onto Cannon St. that motorists are
making right turns from the #2 lane to avoid the wait, the delineators
discouraged that when they were there. Ms. Winter also mentioned that the turn
restrictions imposed by the City of Villa Park have further impacted an already
intolerable situation.
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III. CONSENT CALENDAR
A. Request for the installation of a driveway vision zone at the driveway serving
439 and 451 S. Pine St.
Laura DeLaRosa
439 S. Pine St.
Orange CA 92866
ACTION: Approved the request to install 51 ft. of red curb on the east side
of the driveway, and 20 ft. of red curb on the west side.
B. Request for the installation of a driveway vision zone at 1600 N. Glassell St.
Klaya Miranda
1600 N. Glassell St.
Orange CA 92867
ACTION: Approved the installation of red curb on both sides of the
driveway serving 1600 N. Glassell St.
C. Request for the installation of a driveway vision zone at 845 N. Commerce St.
Harry Leonard
845 N. Commerce St.
Orange CA 92867
ACTION: Approved the installation of 20 feet of red curb on both sides of
each of the driveways serving 845 N. Commerce St.
ACTION: There being no discussion from the audience on any of the
Consent Calendar items the Chairman called for the vote.
MOTION: J. Pyne
SECOND: F. Petronella
AYES: Unanimous
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
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IV. CONSIDERATION ITEMS
1. Request for AM peak hour turn restrictions at the intersection of Cannon St.
and Loma Ave.
This item was withdrawn from today’s Commission Agenda at the
request of the applicant, Ken Domer, City Manager for the City of
Villa Park, accordingly there will be no action taken.
As there were people in the audience who had wished to speak on this item
Chairman Beil allowed the following public hearing:
Patti Winter, 471 S. Mountain Glen Rd., Anaheim – Opposed to the turn
restrictions. Ms. Winter also mentioned that the turn restrictions imposed by the
City of Villa Park have further impacted an already intolerable situation.
Dan Swoish, 6121 E. Mabury Ave., Orange – Opposed to turn restrictions. Did
Villa Park request the removal of the issue in order to redo it and then put it back
on? If it’s off permanently then there’s no problem.
Wayne Winthers, Asst. City Attorney – As far as we understand Villa Park still
intends to follow through with their restriction. They have just withdrawn their
request to have the City of Orange consider or not if we’re going to join in it.
Tom Mahood, City Traffic Engineer – You saw the red and white signs that they
are planning on posting a left-turn restriction also from northbound Cannon St.
to westbound Loma St. They’re still planning on going through with that but
they are now going to redo it so all signs are within the jurisdiction of the City of
Villa Park. The City of Orange, since they withdrew from the Traffic
Commission action, will not be approving the placement of any signs within
Orange’s jurisdiction. We have no control over what the City of Villa Park puts
within their city limits, and that intersection is shared, the city limits jog back and
forth.
Dan Swoish, 6121 E. Mabury Ave. – Opposed to turn restrictions. If you can’t
control where the signs go. If its on Cannon St. and you can’t make a left turn
and you’re already there can they ticket you? If they don’t warn you while
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you’re on Cannon St. you won’t know what to do. I understand the reason
behind their action; the traffic through Mabury Ranch by people going places
further east and northward has become unbelievable. The City of Villa Park on
Loma St. is saying if we call this off we can virtually eliminate most of the
problem we have on Loma St. and at the same time they are making an
extremely bad situation for everybody east of Cannon St., it will be much worse.
If this goes through can we make a “No Left-Turn” on Orange Park Blvd. and
“No Left-Turn” on Yellowstone because now what’s happening is Mabury Ranch
has become the speedway for short cuts for people that don’t want to sit in that
traffic. I know you can’t do anything about Villa Park’s actions but maybe we
can economically boycott Villa Park businesses. If you’re stuck in this traffic it’s
because Villa Park didn’t want you on their streets, please do not patronize any
businesses in Villa Park. Maybe that will get the attention of that City.
Karen Dewport, 5828 E. Bryce Ave. - My understanding of the Vehicle Code is
that one city is not permitted to severely impact traffic in another city. The
actions by Villa Park to block left-turns onto Loma St. could impact us.
Ann Khyltash, 7188 E. Villanueva Dr. – I have 2 boys that attend Villa Park High
School so I use that route daily to take my sons to school. It really impedes my
ability to get my kids to school in a timely manner. To me it’s outrageous they
can’t let their neighbors turn left and drive on that street, when I know that on
that street during that time period there are 4 cars parked on the streets. We
could turn this around and say we don’t want any of them to drive on Serrano
past my house causing congestion and traffic noise, but we know what kind of
cars they drive so they get to do it. Orange hasn’t done anything to mitigate this
problem either, we have people turning in all different directions from all
different lanes creating major traffic problems there and it’s only going to
increase. We are using this route to take our kids to a neighborhood school, it’s
not a primary route to any businesses.
Chairman Beil closed the public hearing.
ACTION: None.
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2. Request for the installation of a protected left-turn signal at the intersection of
LaVeta Ave. and Parker St.
Traffic Engineering Division
CITY OF ORANGE
The oral presentation is based on the written staff report; please refer to your
copy. There being no speakers from the audience the Chairman closed the
public hearing and returned the item to the Commission for further
discussion and a motion.
Commissioner Beil – I drive that quite often in the AM peak going westbound
LaVeta and make that left turn onto Parker St. and I can tell you from experience
I sit through that light sometimes 3 cycles. It’s not a huge queue but the issue is
the eastbound LaVeta traffic you can’t tell if you’re coming straight through the
signal or making a right turn. I’ve seen quite a few near misses on conflicting
turn movements between the left turn and the right turn at that intersection. I
think it’s appropriate, its right at the border line of meeting warrants and I think
the volumes will increase with the increased development at St. Joseph’s
Hospital complex and I think this is the right time to get this approved and in the
planning phases.
MOTION: Approved the installation of a protected left-turn signal phase for
LaVeta Ave. turning left onto Parker St.
MOTION: J. Beil
SECOND: F. Petronella
AYES: Unanimous
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
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3. Request for the removal of red curb on Jefferson Ave. in front of the residence at
509 E. Jefferson Ave.
Curt Bingham
506 E. Jefferson Ave.
Orange CA 92866
The oral presentation is based on the written staff report; please refer to your
copy. As there were no speakers to this request Chairman Beil called the
question:
MOTION: Approved the removal of 25 feet of red curb from 509 E. Jefferson Ave.
MOTION: L. Dick
SECOND: F. Petronella
AYES: Unanimous
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
4. Request for the implementation of a neighborhood permit parking program on
both sides of Jefferson Ave. between Shaffer St. and Harwood St.
The oral presentation is based on the written staff report; please refer to your
copy. Chairman Beil opened the public hearing for the following discussion:
Alain Hasson, 634 E. Jefferson Ave. – In favor of the permits. We have some
concerns that Chapman University students will get a hold of them and give
them out to their friends.
Lila Hasson, 634 E. Jefferson Ave. – I’m concerned with permits being shared and
I’d like to know how many permits will be issued per household. Is the
restriction 24 hours? And what is the cost? How long are they valid?
Sgt. Sean O’Toole, OPD Traffic Bureau – Each single-family dwelling is issued up
to 7 parking permits, they have the choice between a decal style that fits inside
on the windshield, or a hang tag visitor permit to be used by visiting guests. On
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a duplex it’s based on the property size, and I believe they’re limited to 3 permits
per unit. Chapman University students living in the area are issued a specific
hanging tag permit that has a 1-year expiration. The resident and visitor permits
have a 3-year expiration cycle and then they will be renewed for an additional 3
years with new permits being issued at that time. I believe the cost is $5 for all
permits issued to a household. I’m not sure what the cost is for the student
permits.
Chairman Beil – Could you tell us a little bit about how the program is enforced?
Sgt. Sean O’Toole, OPD Traffic Bureau – It is a 24-hour permit system and
enforcement is both random and call for service. We have 3 parking control
officers working for the Police Dept. who randomly patrol throughout the entire
City, permit parking issues as well as abandoned vehicles and we also respond
to calls for service for vehicles in violation.
Dave Allenbach, Assoc. Transportation Analyst – Permits do not supersede the
street sweeping ordinance so whether you are in a permit area or not you will
still be required to get your car off the street on street sweeping day.
Chairman Beil closed the public hearing and returned the item to the
Commission for further discussion and a motion.
ACTION:
A. Approved the implementation of a neighborhood parking permit on
Jefferson Ave.
B. Approved the removal of the “1-HOUR TIME LIMIT PARKING” signs on
Jefferson Ave.
MOTION: J. Pyne
SECOND: N. Lall
AYES: Unanimous
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
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5. Request for the installation of an “All-Way” STOP control at the intersection of
Palmyra Ave. and Parker St.
Larry Gagler
292 S. Pixley St.
Orange CA 92867
The oral presentation is based on the written staff report, please refer to your
copy. Chairman Beil opened the public hearing for the following discussion
of this request:
Larry Gadler, 292 S. Pixley St. – In favor of the request. About 3-4 years ago we
requested a “CROSS TRAFFIC DOES NOT STOP” signs for northbound Parker St. and
those have certainly helped. There is a bit of a sight problem when you’re on
Parker St. and you’re trying to turn onto Palmyra Ave. Also, when you turn off
Glassell St. onto Palmyra Ave. the last STOP sign is at Palmyra Ave. and Lemon
St. so there is a good distance for people to get up to a good speed through this
area.
Chairman Beil closed the public hearing and returned the item to the
Commission for further discussion and a motion.
ACTION: Approved the request for the installation of an “All-Way” STOP
control at the intersection of Palmyra Ave. and Parker St.
MOTION: N. Lall
SECOND: F. Petronella
AYES: Unanimous
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
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V. ADMINISTRATIVE REPORTS
None this meeting.
VI. ADJOURNMENT
After discussion of today’s Agenda the City Traffic Commission meeting was
concluded, and as there were no further requests for action under Oral
Presentations, the Chairman adjourned this session of the City Traffic
Commission.
The next meeting of the City Traffic Commission is scheduled:
5:30 P.M.
Wednesday – May 10, 2006
Respectfully submitted,
CITY OF ORANGE
Phyllis Then, Recording Secretary
Traffic Engineering Division
pthen@cityoforange.org
CITY OF ORANGE
PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT
300 E. CHAPMAN AVENUE
ORANGE CA 92866
PH: (714) 744-5536
FAX: (714) 744-5573
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