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Minutes of a Regular Meeting: November 14, 2007
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I. OPENING
A. Flag Pledge
B. Roll Call
Present – Commissioners: J. Beil, L. Dick, W. King, N. Lall, J. Pyne
Absent - Commissioners: None
Present – Staff: T. Mahood, D. Allenbach, W. Winthers, P. Then
Absent - Staff: Sgt. D. Adams
C. Approval of Minutes
October 10, 2007
ACTION: Approved minutes as published by Recording Secretary
with the correction that Commissioner W. King was
present at the November meeting.
MOTION: J. Pyne
SECOND: N. Lall
AYES: Unanimous
II. ORAL PRESENTATIONS
None this meeting.
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III. CONSENT CALENDAR
A. Request for the installation of red curb markings on both sides of the
driveways serving 460 S. Batavia St.
Margaret Mapes
460 S. Batavia St.
Orange CA 92867
The oral presentation is based on the written staff report; please refer to your
copy. There was no discussion of this item.
ACTION: Approved the installation of a “BEGIN NO STOPPING ANYTIME”
sign 72 ft. north of the subject driveway at the end of the existing red
curb.
MOTION: J. Beil
SECOND: L. Dick
AYES: Unanimous
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
B. Request to prohibit on-street parking on the north side of Collins Ave.
between Morgan St. and Mallard St.
Robert Cheatum
3214 E. Jacaranda Ave.
Orange CA 92867
The oral presentation is based on the written staff report; please refer to your
copy. Chairman Beil opened the public hearing for the following discussion:
Bob Cheatum, 3214 E. Jacaranda Ave. – Support the request. The sight on the
north side toward Mallard St. is elevated and it’s sort of a downhill slant toward
Morgan St. so no matter whether you’re coming or going at peak periods the
traffic is traveling at a pretty good clip and you need everything you’ve got to
make sure you get around those corners so you don’t get hit, or hit anyone. Those
cars parked along there obstruct your vision especially when you’re leaving
Mallard St. or Morgan St. I thought the bus stop was at the next corner.
Dave Allenbach, Transportation Analyst – The bus stop is located in proximity to
Morgan St. and it has red curb already. In this case we would post the “NO
STOPPING” sign and then at the bottom it would say “BUS EXEMPT”.
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Chairman Beil closed the public hearing and returned the item to the
Commission for further discussion and a motion.
Commissioner King – I’m a little confused I don’t know where Morgan and
Mallard are.
Chairman Beil – If you remember the item we had month, its just east of Wanda
off of Collins, east of the SR-55 Fwy. just before t makes the curve.
Vice Chairman Lall – You mentioned this is the only section of Collins Ave. that
still allows parking?
Dave Allenbach, Transportation Analyst – There is parking to the west of the
study area that happens to be within the City of Villa Park jurisdiction, as you
may remember from the permit parking request, the area surrounding Mallard
here to the east and Morgan St. is actually within the City of Villa Park. To the
west of Morgan there are two houses that actually front onto Collins, they are
addressed to the City of Villa Park, they are allowed to park there, however,
basically from Morgan to the east, this area between the two streets allows on-
street parking. This area between the two streets allows on-street parking, but
easterly of Mallard on the north side of the street from here all the way around
basically to Chapman Ave. where Collins Ave. curves around and becomes
Prospect St. both sides of the street are posted for “NO PARKING ANY TIME”, or
“NO STOPPING ANY TIME”. This area would be consistent with that existing
posting.
Vice Chairman Lall – Have we consulted with Villa Park to see how they feel
about this action we’re considering tonight?
Dave Allenbach, Transportation Analyst – No we felt we would handle this one
on your own and did not consult with Villa Park.
Commissioner Dick – How many parking spaces will we loose if we do this:
Dave Allenbach, Transportation Analyst – By rough estimate I would say about 6-
7 spaces. Also, keep in mind that in this area this is the backside of this
residential community so typically it would most likely not be the residents from
Jacaranda that would be parking here. The problems we have experienced in the
past are residents from the south side of Collins in the apartment area are using
this for overflow parking we’ve also experienced some problems in the past with
people parking their cars on the north side of Collins Ave. and putting “FOR SALE”
signs on them. From our perspective this creates a bit of a danger because
motorists tend to stop in the #2 lane and write down phone and address
information to contact the person that owns the car, which is very dangerous on a
street like this. From this perspective this is a secondary road and it would help
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the residents adding to sight distance and it would remove any of this issue with
vehicles for sale, and it forces the people from the apartments to actually park on
their side of the street, which would be safer for them as opposed to having them
run across the street.
Commissioner Dick – I would have to assume and maybe I’m wrong that if I
could park closer to my house on the side of the street as my apartment I would
probably do that. We’ve taken a number of spaces out of the community and we
just recently did a neighborhood parking permit program for this area, and now
we’re going to take another group of parking spaces out of the community? I
understand it may those that are living in the apartments that are parking there
and I understand that we may put automobiles for sale on a public thoroughfare,
but as I drive by the Orange Unified School District headquarters on Katella Ave.
almost daily I see a whole host of automobiles for sale and I just don’t know that
is illegal. I’m concerned about the way every month we reduce the number of
parking places in the community and the community continues to grow. I
understand we’re only talking about 6-7 spaces but Rome wasn’t built in a day,
and I guess our diminishing number of parking spaces goes the same way. What
are we going to do with those folks who have been parking there? Where do they
go now?
Chairman Beil – Where do they go? Taking these parking places away, we
already know the area on the south side of Collins Ave. is a very impacted parking
area, that is the issue that drove the parking permit issue on the north side of
Collins Ave. Dave, can you brief us on what the final action on that parking
permit program through the City Council was? That is relative because if that
overflow parking was going up into Mallard and Morgan and Juniper and
Jackson, essentially that is going to be pushed out onto the street and impact
additional areas if we remove more spaces on Collins Ave. I agree with
Commissioner Dick’s comments.
Bob Cheatum, 3214 E. Jacaranda Ave. – We’ve now opened the north part of that
community for parking so the cars that are parked on Collins can move north into
the open area.
Dave Allenbach, Transportation Analyst – We are forcing people from the south
side of Collins that may be using this area for surplus parking into another area.
We are, in a sense, dealing with 2 problems, one of them being a social issue.
These apartments on the south side of Collins Ave. have off-street parking, I
believe they have garages, but these garages may be used for more than parking,
it could be that they are being used for storage. People living this these
apartments may have more vehicles than would usually be allotted to an
apartment complex. There is nothing that we, in Traffic Engineering can do to
mitigate that. Is it illegal to put a vehicle for sale on the street, as far as I know it
is not. However, when we have vehicles stopping in a travel lane to write down
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information off a “FOR SALE” sign that is a definite safety concern for us. When
we have pedestrians running across a street in a mid-block location, especially on
a high-speed street like Collins Ave., that again is a safety concern for us. We are
going to displace some people, ideally we would like to see them cleaning their
garages and parking their vehicles off the street and that would help mitigate that
sort of problem. With regard to these particular spaces the City Council approved
the request for permit parking on the north side of Collins Ave., however, they
only approved permit parking from Collins to Locust Ave. So the northerly half
of this neighborhood is going to be open for parking. It is entirely likely that the
people who have been displaced will move to the northerly half of that
neighborhood to park. The residents of that half of the neighborhood were
warned that if they were not part of the neighborhood parking permit program at
a later date if they wished to be included they would have to pay an application
fee. This was noted at least 5 or 6 times prior to last night; it was also noted at
least 3 times at the City Council meeting last night, so those residents have been
duly warned and in our opinion after that people go where they go. In this
particular case, speaking strictly from a safety standpoint, we feel that if the
street is clear of vehicles then vehicles exiting the residential street will have
adequate sight distance to make the proper decision whether they should enter
traffic or wait. It will reduce the number of pedestrian crossings in the area,
which would also reduce the potential for auto/pedestrian accidents, which are
always serious.
Chairman Beil – The posted speed limit on that segment of Collins Ave. is 35
MPH, when was the last speed survey done there? Do we have a really gut feeling
what the true 85th percentile is? I know from my experience of coming out of
Mallard or Morgan people are coming westbound at about 40-45 MPH.
Dave Allenbach, Transportation Analyst – I can’t give you an exact date as to
when we did the last survey, I think it was about 2 years ago. I can tell you that at
the time I did it the 85th percentile was about 40 MPH or slightly less, and it has
remained at that point for the last 2 cycles that we have surveyed the street when
it has come due, in its 5-year increment. That’s not to say that 40 MPH is the
fastest speed, that’s the 85th percentile. Keep in mind that 15% of the traffic is
traveling faster than that.
Commissioner King – Does the City of Orange have an ordinance prohibiting
“FOR SALE” signs on cars parked on city streets?
Dave Allenbach, Transportation Analyst – I don’t believe that is enforceable. I
would have to defer to our counsel; I don’t know how legal that can be.
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Commissioner King – The last time I checked the City was not enforcing it
because a Federal judge in Los Angeles said it was unconstitutional, although the
City of Santa Ana insists that they enforce theirs. If we have that ordinance we
ought to enforce it, or get rid of it.
ACTION: Approved the installation of “NO STOPPING ANYTIME” signs
on the north side of Collins Ave. between Mallard St. and
Morgan St.
MOTION: L. Dick
SECOND: J. Beil
AYES: Unanimous
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
C. Request for the installation of red curb markings on both sides of the public
alley on Swidler St. between Spring St. and Palm Ave.
Edward Samuel
3711 E. Spring St.
Orange CA 92869
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ACTION: Denied the request.
MOTION: J. Pyne
SECOND: J. Beil
AYES: Unanimous
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
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IV. CONSIDERATION ITEMS
1. Request for the installation of 30 feet of yellow curb markings in front of
Fletcher Elementary School, with a “Released Time Trailer EXEMPT” sign.
Valerie Via
PO Box 2935
Orange CA 92859-0935
The oral presentation is based on the written staff report; please refer to your
copy. There being no speakers in the audience concerning this request, the
following discussion ensued between the Commissioners.
Commissioner King – They put that trailer in front of LaVeta School, I don’t
know how often but I see it there and there are no markings on the curb, it stays
there for a couple of days sometimes.
Dave Allenbach, Transportation Analyst – In this case, generally when we get this
type of a request from them it’s because they are having trouble getting a place to
park the trailer. However, as you see in the photograph there is a high demand
for on-street parking, but as I said the parking demand goes away early in the
afternoon and they deliver the trailers to their sites in the evenings, generally
after school is out, so they have not had any problem dropping the trailer off. In
our opinion to limit the time would actually force this demand into other areas
similar to what we were talking about in the previous item. At this point we
would recommend that you deny the request.
Commissioner Pyne – Have we replied to Ms. Via regarding the trailer and that
we can’t put up a special sign for an entity such as this trailer?
Dave Allenbach, Transportation Analyst – I actually did speak with her
previously, she had an item a month or two ago on Virage St. and I informed her
that we could not post a sign giving her an exemption for any parking
restrictions.
Chairman Beil – Did Fletcher Elementary School give any input to this request?
Dave Allenbach, Transportation Analyst – Actually we have a request coming to
you to do some parking restriction in the area. We have parents that drop their
children off on the north side of the street. There is a crosswalk at American Way
with a crossing guard, we will be evaluating that, however at this point we are a
little reluctant to put in any more parking restrictions in the area. On the south
side of the street in back of Fletcher Elementary School there is a fairly large
residential community, right now the employees from the area utilize industrial
streets. Putting in additional parking restrictions may force those people into the
residential community, which we are going to try to avoid.
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ACTION: Denied the request.
MOTION: J. Pyne
SECOND: W. King
AYES: Unanimous
2. Request for the installation of red curb markings and a “Handicap”
parking space in front of 354 N. Batavia St.
Rev. Emmett D. Bowers
354 N. Batavia St.
Orange CA 92868
The oral presentation is based on the written staff report; please refer to your
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Chairman Beil – Can we expect any legal issues for that type of denial as long as
we have cause documented on what we feel is safer on a ADA type request?
Wayne Winthers, Asst. City Attorney – No, I don’t believe there’s any problem
with that.
Commissioner Pyne – Are any other residences on Batavia St. offered the 25 ft. of
red curb on their driveway?
Dave Allenbach, Transportation Analyst – We have red curb in the area, we do
these on a per request basis. Certainly if the other residents in the area would
experience a similar problem they would submit a request similar to the
proponent and we would take that to you at the appropriate time. We’re
reluctant to remove on-street parking unless we feel there is some kind of a safety
issue either generated by a request that there is a safety issue we are made aware
of.
Chairman Beil – We did have one red curb request on Batavia St. closer to
Chapman Ave. by the residents next door to the Edison sub-station about a year
ago.
Dave Allenbach, Transportation Analyst – That’s correct. The Edison sub-station
is just a little bit south of this area and on the opposite side of the street. There is
also red curb just to the north at the intersection of Batavia St. and Sycamore
Ave., but there is red curb there for intersection sight distance, so we have red
curb in the area.
Commissioner Pyne – Is this a private fence?
Dave Allenbach, Transportation Analyst – Yes it is on private property.
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Wayne Winthers, Asst. City Attorney – It is my understanding that the request is
not coming in because of the disability in the sense that the individual is not able
to get into their car when they park in their driveway like we usually have, it’s
there because they have concerns when trying to pull out of the driveway which is
unrelated to their disability. Whether they had a disability or not they would
have the same issue of getting in and out of the driveway.
Commissioner Pyne – If they modified their fence would it not give them a better
sight distance since they’ve opted to enclose themselves in the area.
Chairman Beil – What’s the height of the fence?
Dave Allenbach, Transportation Analyst – The fence is about 4 ft. high. If you’re
in a vehicle you can see over the top of it. The gate, I believe, is electrified so that
it slides automatically by a remote control. There are a number of houses up and
down this side of the street that do have fences, they have fenced off their front
yard and their driveways as well.
Commissioner Pyne – Of those, have they requested red curb as well?
Dave Allenbach, Transportation Analyst – No.
ACTION:
1. Denied the installation of a handicapped parking space.
2. Approved the installation of 25 ft. of red curb adjacent to the driveway at
354 N. Batavia St.
MOTION: W. King
SECOND: N. Lall
AYES: Unanimous
3. Request to prohibit left turns from S. Prospect St. into the entry
driveway serving McPherson Magnet School.
Jeanne Bentley
333 S. Prospect St.
Orange CA 92869
The oral presentation is based on the written staff report; please refer to your
copy. There being no speakers in the audience the following discussion was held
by the Commission:
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Commissioner King – It’s my luck to go through that intersection between 7:30-
8:00 a.m. and I can verify that Dave is correct, it is a huge mess, there are people
lined up all the way back to the STOP sign going south trying to turn left. Some
of them give up and then go south mostly they wait it out and turn left, it’s a huge
traffic problem all around that school and even at LaVeta School which is right
around the corner so whatever you can do to relieve that would be a good thing.
I’m amazed there have been no rear-end accidents at this location.
Commissioner Pyne – I think the mitigating factor is that those who requested
this have rescinded their request. My recommendation would be that we put this
on hold until next month and re-contact to see if we can get some official
documentation from them that she no longer wants this anymore.
Dave Allenbach, Transportation Analyst – She did send a letter. We notified her
of the Traffic Commission meeting and her letter indicates this is not what she
requested, although the way I read the e-mail of her initial request and that was
exactly what she was requesting. She has over 790 students and because they are
a magnet school most of the students are transported by their parents, and she
feels this would cause an unfair hardship for those parents who must make a left-
turn into the lot. From our perspective, at this point, we do not have a
documented accident problem, we’ve had one reported accident at the
intersection in the last 3-year period and it was a right angle accident. The type
of accident we would expect due to this queuing would be a rear-end type. In one
respect we can go ahead and do this, it would most likely make the intersection a
little more efficient, at some point in time this location may be signalized and
when it does having somebody making a left turn 100 ft. south of Palmyra would
definitely would cause us concerns with efficiency but also safety concerns with
regard to that. At this point we would probably spend $6,000 better elsewhere if
you so desire.
ACTION: Denied the installation of “NO LEFT TURN” restrictions on both
sides of the McPherson School entry drive, with a solid double
yellow center median.
MOTION: J. Beil
SECOND: J. Pyne
AYES: J. Beil, L. Dick, N. Lall, J. Pyne
NOES: W. King
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4. Request for the installation of speed humps on Shaffer St. between Meats
Ave. and Vista Del Gaviota Ave. for a three-month trial period.
Tom Saenz
2137 N. Shaffer St.
Orange CA 92865
The oral presentation is based on the written staff report; please refer to your
copy. Chairman Beil opened the public hearing for the following discussion:
Chairman Beil – The staff report says the ADT is 727 vehicles. The RNTMP has
ADT requirements of 2,500 vehicles (the old one), I remember that number
changed the speed humps approved just barely made it under that ADT.
Dave Allenbach, Transportation Analyst – We talking about 2 separate ADT’s.
The 2,500 is actually the minimum ADT we would use for a request for turn
diverters. Whereas we are not diverting traffic with the installation of a speed
hump the traffic volume for that particular request is lower, and it is 700 vehicles
a day. That’s our threshold, we changed it in 2006, prior to that we did not have
a vehicular volume attached to a request of speed attenuation devices.
Chairman Beil – So it makes it makes the threshold 700.
Commissioner King – What is the cost of these speed humps.
Dave Allenbach, Transportation Analyst – Our total cost for their installation is
about $5,000.00.
Chairman Beil – Should we approve these, and I see you have a copy of the Detail
for the speed hump. Interestingly the pictures included in the staff report are
from the speed humps installed on Fairway Dr., and these were some of the
earlier humps installed using a mold and they still have that little vertical lip on
the bottom that is the car shaker. If we approve these I want to be sure we don’t
put that vertical lip in there and that we somehow blend those in.
Dave Allenbach, Transportation Analyst – This was a concern with the speed
humps that were installed on Heim Ave. and we had the crew grind those down
and feathered them into the pavement. The mold they are using has a lip.
Carolyn Boyle, 2123 N. Shaffer St. – In favor. I believe the speed humps would
help immensely; we have so many cars coming at a very dangerous rate of speed.
The turn off from either Meats or Orange-Olive and they use our street like a
detour. I think these would be a big deterrent, we have a lot of racing, a lot of big
trucks using the street and I appreciate it if you approve the request.
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Tom Saenz, 2137 N. Shaffer St. – In favor. We’ve noticed an increase of traffic,
volume, speed and we already have speed humps on Shaffer south of Meats so
this would be a continuation of that, and I think it would help a lot. As we
canvassed the neighborhood we found good support for speed humps, people
were complaining that speeding motorists have killed some of their pets.
Chairman Beil closed the public hearing and returned the item to the
Commission for further discussion and a motion:
Chairman Beil – Were the exact locations of the speed hump installations
provided to the residents so someone isn’t going to freak out about it, even
though they support them?
Dave Allenbach, Transportation Analyst – The petition package includes the
petition, a detail showing what the speed hump looks like, and there is also an
aerial photo listing addresses and we mark the photo showing where the
installations would go, and we ask the person circulating the petition to show all
this to their neighbors as they discuss the item. One of the residents who signed
were ultimately counted as opposed because they had noted they would be in
favor of 2 speed humps but not 4, although it distinctly says on the petition form
that the location of the speed humps is not negotiable. We do our best to locate
them on a property line wherever we can, as far away from driveways as we can.
We can’t always do that, in this case I think we were fairly successful in
accomplishing that.
Vice Chairman Lall – Seeing they have been able to get 80% of the neighborhood
in favor of this is pretty impressive, and it seems it is the mandate of the
community that these speed humps go in.
ACTION: Approved the installation of speed humps on Shaffer St. between
Meats Ave. and Vista Del Gaviota Ave. for a 3-month trial period.
MOTION: N. Lall
SECOND: L. Dick
AYES: Unanimous
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5. Request to adopt a new speed zone on Manchester Place between
Chapman Ave. and the north city limits.
Traffic Engineering Division
CITY OF ORANGE
The oral presentation is based on the written staff report; please refer to your
copy. Chairman Beil opened the public hearing for the following discussion:
Chairman Beil – Is the signalized intersection operational?
Dave Allenbach, Transportation Analyst – We intend on energizing that signal
within the next 30 days.
Amir Farahani, Acting City Traffic Engineer – The traffic signal will be installed
on November 26th, and that’s when it’s scheduled for turn-on. The foundation,
conduit and poles have been installed we just waiting for the contractor to turn
the signal on.
Chairman Beil – I know that will help coming out of Best Buy there on Compton,
the cup handle or whatever you call it. The cars coming down one-way down
Manchester are coming pretty fast through there.
Vice Chairman Lall – What is the current speed limit on that section of roadway?
Dave Allenbach, Transportation Analyst – Currently it’s un-posted. It would be a
prima facie of 55 MPH. It was not documented here, but I believe there was one
accident that occurred last summer when a southbound motorist on Manchester
left the road just north of the Best Buy area and knocked out one of our street
lights.
Vice Chairman Lall – So even though it’s not posted the prima facie is 55 MPH
and the 85th percentile is 41.5 MPH.
Dave Allenbach, Transportation Analyst – The State has two authorized prima
facie speed limits. One is 25 MPH pertaining to residential areas and school
zones; the other would be the State speed limit, which pertains to most highways.
Local jurisdictions are permitted to either upgrade from 25 MPH or downgrade
from 55 MPH where appropriate, providing that an engineering and traffic survey
had been done, a recommendation has been made and the particular segment
being evaluated gets adopted by a local municipal code. Once that’s done the
police can enforce it, but until we actually get the speed limit adopted then it
would be considered a 55 MPH zone.
Vice Chairman Lall – What does Anaheim have theirs posted at currently?
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Dave Allenbach, Transportation Analyst – At this time they do not have a posting
on their street. They contacted us three weeks ago, they are planning on going to
their Traffic Commission and the person I spoke indicated they hadn’t made a
formal recommendation yet but they were planning on recommending a speed
limit of 35-40 MPH. Our recommendation should go nicely with their proposal.
ACTION: Approved the adoption of a 40 MPH speed zone on Manchester
Pl. between Chapman Ave. and the north city limits.
MOTION: W. King
SECOND: N. Lall
AYES: Unanimous
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V. ADMINISTRATIVE REPORTS
None this meeting.
VI. ADJOURNMENT
After discussion of today’s Agenda the City Traffic Commission meeting was
concluded, and as there were no further requests for action under Oral
Presentations, the Chairman adjourned this session of the City Traffic
Commission.
The next meeting of the City Traffic Commission is scheduled:
5:30 P.M.
Wednesday - December 12, 2007
Respectfully submitted,
CITY OF ORANGE
Phyllis Then, Recording Secretary
Traffic Engineering Division
pthen@cityoforange.org
CITY OF ORANGE
PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT
300 E. CHAPMAN AVENUE
ORANGE CA 92866
PH: (714) 744-5536
FAX: (714) 744-5573
Tape #CTC-27.09 of this City Traffic Commission meeting is available for your review.
Please contact the Recording Secretary at (714) 744-5536 in this regard, advance notice is appreciated.
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