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MINUTES
April 5, 2004
Monday-7:00 p.m.
Planning Commission
City of Orange
PRESENT: Commissioners Bonina, Brandman, Domer, Pruett and Smith
PRESENT: Leslie Aranda Roseberry, Planning Manager/Secretary
Gary Sheatz, Assistant City Attorney
Roger Hohnbaum, Assistant City Engineer
Jerre Wegner, Recording Secretary
IN RE: PUBLIC PARTICIPATION: None
IN RE: ITEMS TO BE CONTINUED OR WITHDRAWN: None
IN RE: CONSENT CALENDAR:
(1) APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES FROM THE REGULAR MEETING OF
FEBRUARY 18, 2004
Commissioner Smith moved to approve the minutes from the February 18, 2004 meeting. The
motion was seconded by Commissioner Brandman.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Commissioners Bonina, Brandman, Domer, Pruett and Smith
None
None
None MOTION CARRIED
INRE:
CONTINUED HEARINGS:
(2)
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 2474-03 AND ADMINISTRATIVE
ADJUSTMENT 2003-0019 - KOREAN AMERICAN CHRISTIAN
REFORMED CHURCH OF ORANGE COUNTY
A proposal to use a vacated day-care facility for a church and day-care and to allow
a 20% reduction (from 10' to 8') in street side setback for parking. The site is
located at 2261 N. Orange-Olive road.
NOTE:
This project is categorically exempt from the provisions of the
California Environmental quality Act (CEQA) per State CEQA
Guidelines 15303-c (New Construction or Conversion of Small
Structures).
Leslie Aranda Roseberry introduced the item, and Chris Carnes, Senior Planner, answered
questions from the Commissioners on this project. An overview of the changes to the project was
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also given by the project's architect Kyo Sang Kim, (13028 E. Espinheria Drive, Cerritos, CA
90703). The Commissioners had voiced their concerns at the previous Planning Commission
meeting over (a) traffic and parking, (b) adverse traffic impact on Shaffer Street, (c) the safety of
the children, and (d) visibility at the street intersection.
The architect stated that since the last meeting, they had addressed the concerns and requirements
of the Planning Commission (noted above). He noted that the current visibility problem will be
corrected by cutting down all the shrubs and cleaning up the area located at the comer. Chairman
Pruett thanked the applicant for the changes made by the Korean American Christian Reformed
Church.
The commissioners had the following questions and comments:
. Was this project noticed again to residents surround the property? Yes.
. The gate that provides access to the main buildings from the parking lot area, is that
a coded gate that would be accessible only to the staff? The southerly gate will be
either coded or locked so that only employees will have entrance from that gate.
The children and the parents will enter from the north end of the campus.
. The 6' fence on the northerly comer of the property - will that remain? Chairman
Pruett questioned whether there was a need to keep that fence along the parking lot
on the north side. He stated that it creates a barrier between the facility and the
community, and by removing it, it would create an openness. It is not a
requirement, but since they do have that height currently, they would like to keep it,
and they will be adding additional fencing (matching to existing). If the city
requires it, they will remove it, but would like to utilize as much as possible if they
could. Keeping the fence would enhance the security to the children. Commissioner
Smith said she would not vote to remove it. Commissioner Domer stated that the
fence acted as a deterrent to parishioners parking in the neighborhood (off Shaffer)
and crossing the median and entering the church grounds, which they cannot do
with the fence there.
. On the plan, there is a trash enclosure and a storage area. The access to the trash
enclosure appears to be through a parking space. Would there be any problem to the
applicant in switching these two locations? There would be no problem in changing
the locations. Chris Carnes noted that Staff has reviewed the trash requirements
with the Public Works Department and because there would not be an excess
amount of trash, the facility is going to a residential-type bin pick-up so they will
reconfigure how they have the trash enclosed area, and their trash will probably be
placed out on Shaffer.
. Regarding the gate that separates the school property from the 17 parking spaces, is
that a self-closing gate? It is an existing gate that is self-closing, and Chris Carnes
noted that, if required, a condition could be included to require that it be self-
closing.
. Regarding the concern for street parking and being considerate of the neighboring
community (there is no parking allowed on Orange-Olive), is there a possibility of
adding an additional parking space in the parking lot at the new entrance off
Shaffer? Unfortunately, no. If any additional cars were put to the north of the
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island area, it would not meet the 25' requirement and would block two-way traffic
coming in and off of Orange-Olive. There is an existing planter, which could be
removed. Staff agreed to look into ways to increase the parking. Commissioner
Smith noted that this area is not the only parking available on site, and that there is
additional parking in the south part of the property. There is a limit in place as to
how much the church can grow due to the limited size of the facility and it is
believed that the present parking is adequate.
Commissioner Domer thanked Staff and the architect for bringing back this project in such a fine
manner. He encouraged the applicant to work with the residents in the neighborhood and always
keep an open communication to perhaps prevent any conflict. He also suggested that the church
may wish to offer space to the community for community events, as appropriate
Commissioner Smith thanked the applicant for the changes that were made. She moved to adopt
Resolution No. 48-03 approving Conditional Use Permit 24-74-03 and Administrative Adjustment
2003-0019, with the following conditions:
(1) Reconfigure the trash bins at their current location
(2) Extend the wrought iron fence along the property on both Orange-Olive Road and
along Shaffer with an automatically controlled locking gate on Shaffer.
(3) Gate between the 17 parking spaces and the playground area be self-locking for
additional security reasons.
The Commissioners asked that Staff formulate a condition from the notes above to add Condition
10 that would deal with gates and locks, and Condition 11 to deal with fencing.
The motion was seconded by Commissioner Brandman.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Commissioners Bonina, Brandman, Domer, Pruett and Smith
None
None
None MOTION CARRIED
(3)
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 2487-03 - HAIR CALIFORNIA BEAUTY
ACADEMY
A proposal to relocate an existing school from 636-640 North Tustin Street to 1110
North Tustin Street in order to comply with the code requirements for parking.
NOTE:
This project is categorically exempt from the provisions of the
California Environmental Quality Act (CEQA) per State CEQA
Guidelines 15301 (class 1 - Existing Facilities).
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Leslie Aranda Roseberry introduced the item. The applicant, Thuy Witham, presented her project
and responded to questions. There was no public participation (either in favor or opposed) to the
project.
Members of the Commission noted the following questions and concerns:
The Staff Report did not have information on the latest restaurant located at this site.
. The previous C.U.P. included alcohol sales with the restaurant use. Ms. Roseberry asked
the Commissioners to note Condition 8 in the resolution, which states that the approval of
this C. UP. would replace and supercede an existing C. UP. that would eliminate the sale
of alcoholic beverages.
. Who is the current owner of the property because it states that there is on going code
enforcement related to construction without building permits. The code enforcement issues
have been resolved by the applicant.
. Regarding the three shifts noted for teaching students, and the staff recommendation that
limits the number of students on site at anyone time - what is the rationale behind this?
Given that there are 60 parking spaces and limiting it to 35 students, does that impede the
applicant's ability to grow? Generally when there is a school being proposed in a
commercial area, and this is one of the reasons why there is a C. UP., staff looks at the
number of parking spaces required and ensures that there is a condition on the project to
ensure that the parking does not go over that. The applicant saw no problem with this
restriction.
. Regarding the loading zone, it is not listed on the site diagram (although listed as a
condition in the C.U.P). It is customary for that type of commercial building to have a
loading zone and a loading area. There is plenty of parking on the site to account for a
loading zone.
. What are the plans for the patio area in front? There are no current plans for now, but
eventually it might be built into an office; in the meantime, it may be used for student
breaks.
Commissioner Brandman moved to adopt Resolution No. 08-04 approving Conditional Use Permit
no. 2487-03. The motion was seconded by Commissioner Domer.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Commissioners Bonina, Brandman, Domer, Pruett and Smith
None
None
None MOTION CARRIED
(4)
GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT 2004-0002, ZONE CHANGE 1222-03,
DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, AND ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT
REPORT 1720-03 - DEL RIO LLC.
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The applicant is proposing to develop the 73-acre subject site with 716 dwelling
units. The project includes the dedication of 11 acres for use as a public park and 7
acres as permanent open space.
NOTE:
Environmental Impact Report 1720-03 has been prepared for
this project in accordance with the provisions of the
California Environmental Quality Act per State CEQA
Guidelines Article 7 - EIR Process.
Commissioner Brandman recused herself as she has an interest in a company doing business with
this project.
The project was introduced by Leslie Aranda Roseberry and Chris Carnes, Senior Planner, gave
the Staff report on this project. The applicant, Del Rio, LLC, is proposing a new residential
development containing 716 dwelling units. The proposal includes the dedication and
improvements for a new 1O.65-acre public park and 7 acres as permanent open space. The project
site is located in north Orange and is approximately 73 acres in size. The project is presently
located in a County Island and is under County of Orange jurisdiction. See Attachment no. 4 -
Project Vicinity Map. The subject site was formerly used for the extraction of sand and gravel,
and the applicant is presently in the process of filling the extraction pit with imported soils.
Previous to this, the City Council has approved the Predevelopment Agreement by and between
the City of Orange and Del Rio LLC, which in concept reviewed the proposal and established the
criteria for the applicant to continue with the entitlement request. It also included that the City of
Orange will process the annexation of the land from the County of Orange.
The proposal, as it currently stands, does not include any plans for the residential or the park site,
which will be submitted at a future date.
The following questions/concerns were raised to staff by some of the Commissioners regarding
this project:
. Regarding the bio-swale, what year storm is that being sized to? The bio-swale is being
sized to what is called the "first flush" storm (a one to one and one-half year storm). It's
designed for the first storm to wash down all the debris that occupies the swale so that it
doesn't flow into the riverbed.
. Maintenance of the bio-swale is noted as "still to be negotiated." Will the city be
responsible for this? As it is currently anticipated, the city would not absorb any of the
costs of maintenance. It is still being studied as to who would be the appropriate body to
actually perform the maintenance. Is there a reason why the maintenance issue has not
been finalized? There may be more than one mechanism to do that - it could be a
Homeowner's Association responsibility, a CFD could be established to pick up the
financial responsibilities, in which case the city could perform that work, etc. The design
of the bio-swale has not yet been completed, so there is no good estimate of costs at this
time.
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. Is there any density bonus for home ownership opportunities? That will come at a later
time; that is not part of the proposal in front of us tonight.
. Will the commission be able to impose conditions of approval on any of the later phases to
be developed? If the Development Plan is approved tonight (which includes things like
sidewalk plans, etc.) then the commission cannot vary from that in the future. The
commission, however, could recommend modifications to the Development Plan.
. Please explain the affordable housing element of the plan. The city does not require
residential developments to provide a certain percentage of affordable housing. But the
developer is to consider the ability to provide affordable housing as part of the project. In
this particular case, the applicant has presented that because of the high density he will be
able to provide relatively affordable housing prices.
. Is the existing width of Glassell, will that be the final width once this project is completed?
Yes, it will be the final width, with the improvements that are being proposed with this
project. It is not the ultimate width per city standards, but it has been deemed to be
sufficient, and the appropriate mitigation measures have been included in this proposal.
. The park that is included, will that be reviewed by the city's parks department? Yes, that is
included in the development plan.
. Who will be responsible for maintaining the trails? That will be determined prior to the
final development of the property, and will be the same organization that also maintains
the bio-swales.
. Does the pit on site have to be filled in prior to developing the property? That has not been
determined, but the applicant is considering it. If they do decide to do that, plans will have
to be submitted as to how they can do that. At this time they have not submitted those
plans.
. What is the overall phasing of the project? Development will begin on the east side; the
first residential area would be that adjacent to Glassell. And then it will proceed to the
properties to the north and to the west. During that time the park site will be improved.
Prior to development, the bio-swales and the green way areas will have to be installed first.
The third component is the far northwest corner of the property.
. What is the difference between the bio-swale and the greenway area? The bio-swale is the
prominent feature in the water quality management plan, it is the strain portion of the
treatment. The greenway is also part of the water quality management area, and it is the
detention basin, but it also includes the passive recreational area, the trails and some
picnic areas. The green way area is designed to hold the first flush water for 72 hours
before it can be released. It ensures that any damaged biotics in there have been
destroyed.
Frank Elfend, the developer, (Elf end & Associates, 18101 Von Karman Avenue, Suite 1260,
Irvine, CA 92612), gave a presentation on the project. He thanked the staff for their work on the
project, and noted that this project had been in development for three and one-half years prior to
this presentation. He mentioned that an earlier proposal had been rejected by the city for a variety
of reasons (traffic, not enough mixed housing, park was not large enough, no mitigation to the
Orange School District, the Batavia-Riverdale extension, etc.) He further explained the work
being done to mitigate traffic at six critical intersections, as well as to further develop the sports
park area and the passive park area. Also, there was a need to provide an access point to the
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property that was viewed favorably by all parties (the developer, the city, the experts, and by the
neighbors). The issue with the Orange County School District is one that has been worked on for
quite some time by the developer. Mr. Elfend reported that they are very close to completing a
Mitigation Agreement that will require the developer of the Del Rio project to provide a $6 million
mitigation payment to the Orange Unified School District, which will be provided up front. The
revised land-use plan also deleted all of the apartments and housing densities in excess of the City
of Orange development standards. Of great importance to the developer was how they would
interface their property with the R.J. Noble property, since it was no longer a part of this
entitlement request. The current project provides substantial setback and screening from the R. J.
Noble operation. The closest stationary use of the Noble project to the new development is
approximately 1,000 feet.
Mr. Elfend explained his company's involvement with the local neighbors, and the mitigating
measures they have taken (including building a block wall along the Tamarin-Orange frontage
with Glassell Street, to minimize noise). The Del Rio developers continued a community outreach
program, going door-to-door to inform the neighboring property owners of their plans. He
reported that, to date, they have informed nearly 1,000 property owners. The effort-to-date has
resulted in 70 letters of support for the project, which have been submitted to the city.
Mr. Elfend presented documents to the Commission that stated that R.I. Noble's operations were
daytime - and therefore nighttime noise concerns were not an issue; additionally, because of the
site's topography (the machinery is located within a depression), significant noise does not leave
the site. That is further noted in the second handout, where R.J. Noble indicates that the days of
operation are Monday - Sunday (for the moment), but that the hours of operation are from 6:00
a.m. until 4:30 p.m. Mr. Elfend explained that the reason he wanted these documents put into the
public record is that the City had received a letter (that day) which indicated that the R.J. Noble
facility operated 24-hours per day. He also provided copies of an arbitration regarding the
crushing operations by R.I. Noble that noted that R. J. Noble would move the crushing operation
to the bottom of a hole that is being dug on the property "as there is no other place to put it."
Some of the commissioners had questions/concerns for Mr. Elfend:
. Are the hours of operation that you mentioned the hours for the entire site, or are they only
for a specific area? The hours are for what R. J Noble calls the Del Rio portion of the site,
as well as their subsequent expansion. The actual asphalt operation itself, according to
information provided by the county, they are to comply with the restrictions of the noise
ordinance of the county, and that is not a 24-hour operation for that site. (Chair Pruett
requested that this line of questioning not continue, as it was unfair to put the applicant in
the position of addressing the hours of operation of RJ Noble).
. How deep is the bio-swale? (This question was answered by Mr. Pat Fusco, Fusco
Engineering). We don't like the bio-swale to be deep, ever. The purpose of the bio-swale
and treatment wetlands is to percolate the water into the soil and get it down there fast,
and so our expectation would be that if water was to pool in there right after the first flush
storm, it would only be there for 48 hours or less and maybe 6-10 inches.
. When it says in the Development Agreement that the owner/developer will fund and
construct the multi-stage treatment system (the bio-swale), when it says funding, what is it
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talking about? Is that the construction of it and not the maintenance? As of right now,
there are some significant engineering that goes into the maintenance side of it, and then
the financing segment of it will be part of the CFD or the HOA., but the developer will
bear responsibility for that.
. It is clear who has responsibility for all parts of this development (trails, landscaping, etc.)
but it is not clear who bears maintenance responsibility for the bio-swale. The
Development Agreement states that at the end of the project development, the bio-swale
will be deeded over to the city. That creates two questions: (1) once it becomes the city, it
appears the city will bear financial cost for maintaining it unless it's funded by the
developer for the long-term; and (2) it appears that the homeowner's association will have
responsibility for maintaining the trail, and the trail is on the other side of the development,
so essentially by dedicating that land to the city, you are separating the trails from the
development. How do they maintain it if they don't have access to it? Chris Carnes stated
that there have been no final decisions, and would prefer postponing the final decision for
the bio-swale (maintenance, size, etc.) until the Tentative Tract Map. At that point there
will be a design for the bio-swale, they will know what the phasing for the project is, and
the funding source responsibilities can be better defined.
Chair Pruett went on to explain that it was important for the commission to focus on the fact that
the impacts of R.J. Noble are R. J. Noble's responsibility - and are not part of the discussion
before the commission, and they are required to operate under their regulations and City Code.
The commission should focus on the Del Rio project and it's impacts. Commissioner Smith
questioned whether the developer should be responsible for mitigating the noise made by the
neighboring business (R.J. Noble). Assistant Attorney Gary Sheatz noted that the environmental
analysis is based on the Del Rio project. Based on CEQA, it is not the developer's responsibility
to mitigate the noise. If they choose to make sound attenuations (double-paned windows, for
example) to make it more pleasant for the homeowners, that is their business, they are not required
to do so.
Public Participation
Opposed
Michael Benthall, 3039 W. Rippling Crest
Hy Finkelstein, 242 E. Riverview
Dennis Lambert, 3103 Sand Bar Circle
Comments included:
. Property density is too high.
. Concerned for the children - no backyards, no family neighborhoods.
. Answers to open questions are vague and nebulous
. Proposed traffic light adjustment doesn't work
. Could more parking be included in the development plan (sports park will bring in
many additional cars).
. First notice received 2 days prior to meeting
. Not enough sound mitigation
. Intersection at Richland & Glassell is too close to Riverdale.
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. Not enough time for public to respond to these issues.
. Concerns about traffic cutting through neighborhood to avoid traffic lights
. R.I. Noble's operations run well into the night; as opposed to what is reported.
Not marked as Opposed or In Favor
Dennis Steinwand, 236 E. Riverview
Lisa Whaley, 345 E. Meadowbrook
Lyle Overby (RJ. Noble), 11505 E. Lincoln
Martha Martin, 3102 Sandbar Circle
Comments included:
. Mr. Overby stated that RJ. Noble believes project should be conditioned to mitigate
noise. Invited commissioners to tour facility.
. No overall concerns with project.
. Never notified. Concerned with traffic and noise. Trucks come day and night.
In Favor
Lenore Hubbard, 101 W. Riverdale Avenue, #57
Nanci Townsend, 101 W. Riverdale, #53
Dennis Lauzon, 147 Riverdale
Mike ShortIe, 3116 River Mist
Albert Lopez, 445 E. Riverview Avenue
Sandy Downs, 101 W. Riverdale, #56
Harriett Abbott, 2712 Pampas Street
Diana Leatherman, 2724 N. Pampas Street
Jon Dumitru, 469 S. Orange
Larry Trabue, 3130 River Mist Circle
Comments included:
. Pleased with incorporation of sound wall
. Developers have listened to them and made changes, where appropriate
. Multiple projects have been proposed for this site, and believe that this solution is
best for the community.
. North Orange needs attention, this project will help bring that
. Too much RJ. Noble noise
. Concern that county will not manage the islands
. Tours ofRJ. Noble have been denied
. Would like to see a light at Richland
. Tired of the dirt and mess, would like to see this project go through.
Terry Austin, traffic engineer and principle with Austin Faust Associates responded to two topics
made by the public: the traffic signal at Richland and cut-through traffic. Evaluation suggests that
the neighbors will be better off with the Traffic signal at Richland. Traffic can back up and it
looks like it's happening at Riverdale, but in actuality that back-up is related to access to the
freeway. That is something that neither the city nor the project can solve, although there are some
things that are underway in the future that hopefully will help that - and these are being done by
Caltrans. The signal, as proposed, will create a gap so that residents can get out of their
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neighborhoods (without it, and the subsequent traffic back-up, residents can not exit their
neighborhood). As relates to the cut-through traffic, the Del Rio project cannot change this, it
cannot make changes in a residential neighborhood. What Del Rio is doing, is ensuring that the
problem that currently exists there today will not be exacerbated. Most importantly, Del Rio is
ensuring that no one exiting the project can go straight at Richland into the adjacent neighborhood.
The proposal is that the traffic signal at Richland will only allow you to turn left or right.
The commissioners made the following comments:
. The problem of cut-through is still not being solved by the signal at Riverdale. By only
having left and right turns, it would create a barrier to the people who live in the project
who need access to the park, so that would not be beneficial to that community.
. Will there be a left-hand turn going from west to east on Lincoln? It does not seem that
there will be enough traffic to warrant a signal, but there will be the ability to turn left.
. Concerned about the park going in last; it is noted that park will go in after 260th house
developed.
. Do not immediately restrict the ingress/egress to the development prior to trying it without
the left-hand right-hand turn restriction first.
Moved by Commissioner Smith, and seconded by Vice-Chairman Bonina to adopt Resolution No.
12-04 recommending to the City Council the certification of Final Environmental Impact Report
1720-03 as adequately reviewing the environmental impacts of the proposal and as being prepared
in compliance with the California Environmental Quality Act (CEQA).
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Commissioners Bonina, Domer, Pruett and Smith
None
Commissioner Brandman
None
MOTION CARRIED
Moved by Commissioner Smith and seconded by Vice-Chairman Bonina to adopt Resolution No.
13-04 recommending to the City Council the approval of General Plan Amendment 2004-0002.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Commissioners Bonina, Domer, Pruett and Smith
None
Commissioner Brandman
None
MOTION CARRIED
Moved by Commissioner Smith and seconded by Vice-Chairman Bonina to adopt Resolution No.
14-04 recommending to the City Council the approval of Zone Change 1222-03 and a
Development Agreement by and between the City of Orange and Del Rio.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Commissioners Bonina, Domer, Pruett and Smith
None
Commissioner Brandman
None
MOTION CARRIED
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MINUTE ORDER: That the City Council seriously consider requiring the sports park to be
constructed earlier than specified in this development agreement. The park not only provides
recreational space, but also serves as a significant buffer of up to 1,000 feet between the new
homes and the RJ. Noble operation.
The meeting was adjourned to a Joint Study Session with City Council and Parks on Tuesday,
April 6, 2004, at 6 p.m. in the Weimer Room regarding CIP Budget.
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