4/27/2004 - Council Minutes - CC Minutes Adj
APPROVED BY THE CITY COUNCIL ON MAY 11, 2004
CITY COUNCIL MINUTES ORANGE, CALIFORNIA
OF AN ADJOURNED REGULAR MEETING April 27, 2004
The City Council of the City of Orange, California convened an Adjourned Regular Meeting on
April 27, 2004 at 3:00 p.m. in Conference Room C, 300 E. Chapman Avenue, Orange, California.
3:00 P.M. STUDY SESSION
1. OPENING
1.2 PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG
1.3 ROLL CALL
PRESENT - Ambriz, Mayor Murphy, Coontz, Cavecche
ABSENT - Alvarez (Councilmember Alvarez arrived at 3:40 p.m.)
1.4 PRESENTATIONS/ ANNOUNCEMENTS/ INTRODUCTIONS
2. PUBLIC COMMENTS - None
3. CONSENT CALENDAR
All items on the Consent Calendar are considered routine and are enacted by one motion
approving the recommended action listed on the Agenda. Any member of the City
Council, staff or the public may request an item be removed from the Consent Calendar
for discussion or separate action. Unless otherwise specified in the request to remove an
item from the Consent Calendar, all items removed shall be considered immediately
following action on the remaining items on the Consent Calendar.
3.1 Declaration of City Clerk, Mary E. Murphy, declaring posting of the City Council
Agenda of an Adjourned Regular Meeting of April 27, 2004 at the Orange Civic
Center north facing kiosk, Police Facility at 1107 North Batavia, aud Shaffer Park;
all of said locations being in the City of Orange and freely accessible to members of
the public at least 72 hours before COffimencemeut of said Adjourned Regular
Meeting; and available at the Orange Civic Center City Clerk's Office and Main
Library at 101 N. Center Street.
ACTION: Accepted Declaration of Agenda Posting and authorize its retention as a
public record in the Office of the City Clerk.
MOTION - Cavecche
SECOND - Coontz
AYES - Ambriz, Mayor Murphy, Coontz, Cavecche
ABSENT - Alvarez
The Consent Calendar was approved as recommended.
END OF CONSENT CALENDAR
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4. REPORTS FROM MAYOR MURPHY - None.
5. REPORTS FROM COUNCILMEMBERS - None.
6. REPORTS FROM BOARDS, COMMITTEES, AND COMMISSIONS - None.
7. ADMINISTRATIVE REPORTS
7.1 Review aspects of the East Orange Development Plan.
Mr. Stan Soo Hoo, Assistant Community Development Director, reported this Study Session
deals with traffic and circulation issues. Most of the technical reports are being done by Jones &
Stokes; but some are being prepared by consultants; and those are being reviewed through a peer
review process. Austin-Foust has prepared the traffic and circulation technical reports, and the
City is using Parsons Brinkerhoff for the peer review.
Councilmember Coontz asked that the Council be provided with an updated organizational flow
chart outlining the names of all the consultants and how they interact with each other; which
would also be helpful to the public.
Mr. Dan Miller, The Irvine Company, introduced the consultants who will be reviewing the
Traffic Analysis for the East Orange Planned Community.
Mr. John Boslett, The Irvine Company, began a power point presentation, outlining the history of
the multi-agency planning process from 1989 to the present, noting an 87% reduction in
projected daily traffic trips from the original 1989 proposal. He reviewed the purpose and
objectives and the participants of the planning process.
Mr. Kendall Elmer, Austin-Foust, reviewed the Traffic Analysis Scope, including the impacts
associated with implementing the proposed East Orange land use plan and the impacts of the
proposed Master Plan of Arterial Highways amendments.
Mr. Elmer reviewed the boundaries of the traffic analysis study area, and the traffic modeling
package which includes short range (2007-2010) and long range (2025) projections. He
reviewed proposed roadway improvements, traffic distribution patterns, short and long range
impacts and mitigation measures for the intersections of Chapman and Prospect and at SR
2411SR 261 and Santiago Canyon Road. He reviewed proposed Master Plan of Arterial
Highway amendments and related impacts.
Council Ouestions
Councilmember Coontz asked for clarification on the daily trip projections which stated they did
not include trips for schools, parks and the golf course.
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Mr. Boslett indicated trips for those purposes are not part of the residential numbers, but are
included in the total daily trips.
Councilmember Coontz asked about the County fee program for Santiago Canyon Road, and
when it is projected that the County will have the funds for that.
Mr. Miller explained it will be addressed as part ofthe annexation agreement.
Councilmember Coontz asked about Culver Drive and if OCT A has the final decision for that.
Mr. Boslett explained OCTA does have final say for Culver Drive. It will be a separate process
and the City of Irvine will be the lead agency.
Councilmember Coontz asked about TSIP fees and wanted to ensure the fees will be dedicated to
the specific impacted intersections.
Mr. Miller explained the fees will be paid to the City as part of Area C and that the Council will
make the final determination on which intersection the fees are used for.
Councilmember Alvarez asked about the mitigation plans for Chapman and SR-241 / SR.261
and who will pay for those; asked about the Jeffrey Road extension; and asked if there will be a
connector from Santiago Canyon Road to the roll road or ifit will come from south Jeffrey to the
toll road.
Mr. Miller noted The Irvine Company is negotiating a reimbursement agreement with TCA for
these improvements. He also noted Jeffrey will stay on the Master Plan of Arterial Highways
but is not part of this project; and there will be both a connector from Santiago Canyon Road and
south Jeffrey.
Councilmember Alvarez suggested that as part of a development agreement, there could be
traffic counts identified as a trigger mechanism to bring forth certain improvements on Jeffrey,
instead of waiting for problems to occur; and suggested the City could push for this. He also
asked about the downgrade of Chapman Avenue to four lanes.
Mr. Harry Thomas, Public Works Director, explained the City included the downgrade of
Chapman in the application for the MP AH amendment and it is supported by traffic studies and
should not be a problem.
Councilmember Ambriz asked about the noise issues and how they are being addressed.
Mr. Miller explained mitigation measures for noise will be addressed in the ElR.
Mayor pro tern Cavecche commented on the complexities of traffic analyses; and pointed out
that, as a policy maker, she not ready to vote to eliminate the Culver extension north of the toll
road because there is always the possibility the City may want to look at another relief valve for
that area.
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She complimented the consultants who developed the traffic analysis, noting it was helpful to see
the before and after data.
Councilmember Coontz clarified that with regard to noise issues, there is going to be a certain
amount of money and certain development agreements and it is up to the City to determine how
much and where it is spent; and asked if there is a particular dollar amount, because it is
important to know how much some of the mitigation measures cost versus what is in the
development agreements.
Mr. Miller stated they are currently discussing mitigation costs with staff.
Councilmember Coontz also asked about the bat bridge at the toll road, which was put in for
sand and gravel operations; and hoped The Irvine Company can work with the hauling company
as the issue of crossings is a continual issue.
8. REPORTS FROM CITY MANAGER - None.
9. LEGAL AFFAIRS-None.
10. ADJOURNMENT
The City Council adjourned at 4:15 p.m.
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CITY CLERK